Titanfall and Watch Dogs better with cloud on Xbox One

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#1 robybaggio
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http://news.softpedia.com/news/Watch-Dogs-Has-a-More-Dynamic-City-on-Xbox-One-365299.shtml

http://www.oxm.co.uk/56771/titanfall-watch-dogs-developers-discuss-xbox-ones-cloud-computing-advantage/

 

http://attackofthefanboy.com/news/titanfall-xbox-cloud-usher-era-dedicated-servers/

 

"Its what I call dynamism; basically, the way the city reacts to you, we are able to push further on the Xbox One."

No exact explanation was given about how the Xbox One allows Ubisoft to create a more dynamic city, but it might have something to do with the console's cloud processing feature."


"So suppose you were an AI, and the decision to make you move was run elsewhere. There would be the same latency," he continued. "If you think about it, it's not different than you holding the controller when you're playing multiplayer. It might allow someone to use one dedicated machine just for on AI. What kind of AI could I do with that? That's interesting."

 

Physics calculations, similarly, aren't dependent on strict timing. "The way a tree reacts to weather, it's physics, right?" Guay went on. "It's bending materials. Well, what if I could run that on the cloud? It doesn't need to be fully synced. There are occasions where there will be an advantage, but it's clear in the short term there's plenty of power within the machines. That's where our engineers are working."

 

Microsoft realized that player-hosted servers are actually holding back online gaming and that this is something that they could help solve, and ran full-speed with this idea. The Xbox group came back to us with a way for us to run all of these Titanfall dedicated servers and that lets us push games with more server CPU and higher bandwidth, which lets us have a bigger world, more physics, lots of AI, and potentially a lot more than that!

Shiring explains that despite a lot of talk downplaying the importance of the cloud, that it is in fact a really big deal. He also says that the Xbox One Cloud allows developers who use it the ability to do things that games using player hosted servers cant. This is something thats going to let us drive all sorts of new ideas in online games for years to come, concludes Shiring. This innovation is the type of thing that gamers need to hear about from new consoles like the Xbox One."

 

The war is over before it even begun. When is the PS5 coming out?


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#2 GamingGod999
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U need internet for da cloud?

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34398-running-like-junk-1906734-1595201_

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

he was compairing the 360 to the xbone...

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That's pretty impressive, although those games won't touch lightning returns

which is also better with cloud

 

 

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#5 faizan_faizan
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He was comparing last gen consoles to the One.
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Ushered in dedicated servers? What year is this? 1995?
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#7 Miketheman83
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Xbone games look better at the moment and I dont see that changing anytime soon.
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Ushered in dedicated servers? What year is this? 1995?clyde46
Yes it is.For lemmings.
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Xbone games look better at the moment and I dont see that changing anytime soon.Miketheman83
It would be pretty sad if the Xbone version wasn't graphically superior to the 360's.
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[QUOTE="Miketheman83"]Xbone games look better at the moment and I dont see that changing anytime soon.GamingGod999
It would be pretty sad if the Xbone version wasn't graphically superior to the 360's.

No I mean I havent seen a PS4 game that looks as good as Forza 5, Titanfall, Ryse or Killer Instinct yet. If you have I would love to see it.,
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34398-running-like-junk-1906734-1595201_

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

he was compairing the 360 to the xbone...

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[QUOTE="GamingGod999"][QUOTE="Miketheman83"]Xbone games look better at the moment and I dont see that changing anytime soon.Miketheman83
It would be pretty sad if the Xbone version wasn't graphically superior to the 360's.

No I mean I havent seen a PS4 game that looks as good as Forza 5, Titanfall, Ryse or Killer Instinct yet. If you have I would love to see it.,

The article was comparing the Xbone and 360. PS4 wasn't in the comparison.
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Like always, PR bla bla bla bla.
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[QUOTE="GamingGod999"][QUOTE="Miketheman83"][QUOTE="GamingGod999"] It would be pretty sad if the Xbone version wasn't graphically superior to the 360's.

No I mean I havent seen a PS4 game that looks as good as Forza 5, Titanfall, Ryse or Killer Instinct yet. If you have I would love to see it.,

The article was comparing the Xbone and 360. PS4 wasn't in the comparison.

Keep telling yourself that.
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The PC and PS4 also can utilize the cloud, so what's X-bone's advantage again? Oh yeah, it doesn't have an advantage and "teh power of da cloud" is the new gimmick just like Sony's "4D and 120fps" jargon 8 years ago. Seriously, when a game console can be played offline also, will the games be shittier because it's not connected to the cloud? LOL, no. You would have to be pretty stupid to buy into this cloud processing BS :lol:

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i'm not one to believe hype. I hope and figure there will be some uses of the cloud. but like the supposed over whelming power advantage of the ps4, I believe it will be a small thing. And I wont care. the games are going to look great, and be enjoyable on both consoles.
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[QUOTE="Miketheman83"][QUOTE="GamingGod999"][QUOTE="Miketheman83"] No I mean I havent seen a PS4 game that looks as good as Forza 5, Titanfall, Ryse or Killer Instinct yet. If you have I would love to see it.,

The article was comparing the Xbone and 360. PS4 wasn't in the comparison.

Keep telling yourself that.

I guess reading isn't one of your strengths. :(
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[QUOTE="GamingGod999"][QUOTE="Miketheman83"]Xbone games look better at the moment and I dont see that changing anytime soon.Miketheman83
It would be pretty sad if the Xbone version wasn't graphically superior to the 360's.

No I mean I havent seen a PS4 game that looks as good as Forza 5, Titanfall, Ryse or Killer Instinct yet. If you have I would love to see it.,

LOL Ryse, Killer Instinct and Titanfall. Although Forza 5 did look pretty good running on Nasa's PC at E3. 

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The PC and PS4 also can utilize the cloud, so what's X-bone's advantage again? Oh yeah, it doesn't have an advantage and "teh power of da cloud" is the new gimmick just like Sony's "4D and 120fps" jargon 8 years ago. Seriously, when a game console can be played offline also, will the games be shittier because it's not connected to the cloud? LOL, no. You would have to be pretty stupid to buy into this cloud processing BS :lol:

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I wasn't aware that Sony invested a billion dollars on dedicated servers for all games. If you're referring to Gaikai, it's being used for streaming backwards compatibility, which is a completely different thing.
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In game advertisement confirmed on Xbox One.
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[QUOTE="Miketheman83"][QUOTE="GamingGod999"] It would be pretty sad if the Xbone version wasn't graphically superior to the 360's.Guy_Brohski

No I mean I havent seen a PS4 game that looks as good as Forza 5, Titanfall, Ryse or Killer Instinct yet. If you have I would love to see it.,

LOL Ryse, Killer Instinct and Titanfall. Although Forza 5 did look pretty good running on Nasa's PC at E3. 

Ryse, Forza and Killer Instinct were all running in Xbox hardware and there is a digital foundry article that proves that. Like I said if you have any videos of PS4 games that look better than those I would like to see it.
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"Shiring explains that despite a lot of talk downplaying the importance of the cloud, that it is in fact a really big deal."

"This innovation "

Hot damn, pretty much every fanboy on this site had been owned :cool:

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[QUOTE="Guy_Brohski"]

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"] No I mean I havent seen a PS4 game that looks as good as Forza 5, Titanfall, Ryse or Killer Instinct yet. If you have I would love to see it.,Miketheman83

LOL Ryse, Killer Instinct and Titanfall. Although Forza 5 did look pretty good running on Nasa's PC at E3. 

Ryse, Forza and Killer Instinct were all running in Xbox hardware and there is a digital foundry article that proves that. Like I said if you have any videos of PS4 games that look better than those I would like to see it.

The Order?
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Ushered in dedicated servers? What year is this? 1995?clyde46
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[QUOTE="Miketheman83"][QUOTE="Guy_Brohski"]LOL Ryse, Killer Instinct and Titanfall. Although Forza 5 did look pretty good running on Nasa's PC at E3. faizan_faizan
Ryse, Forza and Killer Instinct were all running in Xbox hardware and there is a digital foundry article that proves that. Like I said if you have any videos of PS4 games that look better than those I would like to see it.

The Order?

I was kind of referring to gameplay.
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"Shiring explains that despite a lot of talk downplaying the importance of the cloud, that it is in fact a really big deal."

"This innovation "

Hot damn, pretty much every fanboy on this site had been owned :cool:

RR360DD
I f-figured it out when I read the word "dynamic"
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"Shiring explains that despite a lot of talk downplaying the importance of the cloud, that it is in fact a really big deal."

"This innovation "

Hot damn, pretty much every fanboy on this site had been owned :cool:

RR360DD
even lemmings
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"Better with cloud" What the hell does that mean?
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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

"Shiring explains that despite a lot of talk downplaying the importance of the cloud, that it is in fact a really big deal."

"This innovation "

Hot damn, pretty much every fanboy on this site had been owned :cool:

stereointegrity

even lemmings

Just the weak lemmings who jumped ship

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That's pretty impressive, although those games won't touch lightning returns

which is also better with cloud

 

 

strife

 

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lol
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[QUOTE="Miketheman83"][QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="Miketheman83"] Ryse, Forza and Killer Instinct were all running in Xbox hardware and there is a digital foundry article that proves that. Like I said if you have any videos of PS4 games that look better than those I would like to see it.

The Order?

I was kind of referring to gameplay.

and yet you still try to use Ryse, a sim missing several basic features, and a multiplat as ownage. Good job
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[QUOTE="stereointegrity"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]

"Shiring explains that despite a lot of talk downplaying the importance of the cloud, that it is in fact a really big deal."

"This innovation "

Hot damn, pretty much every fanboy on this site had been owned :cool:

RR360DD

even lemmings

Just the weak lemmings who jumped ship

cant blame them.....the cloud doesnt make games look better
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[QUOTE="Guy_Brohski"]

The PC and PS4 also can utilize the cloud, so what's X-bone's advantage again? Oh yeah, it doesn't have an advantage and "teh power of da cloud" is the new gimmick just like Sony's "4D and 120fps" jargon 8 years ago. Seriously, when a game console can be played offline also, will the games be shittier because it's not connected to the cloud? LOL, no. You would have to be pretty stupid to buy into this cloud processing BS :lol:

Miketheman83

I wasn't aware that Sony invested a billion dollars on dedicated servers for all games. If you're referring to Gaikai, it's being used for streaming backwards compatibility, which is a completely different thing.

If you actually believe they invested a billion just for games, youre a retard.

Most of those servers are for all the tv interaction, fantasy football, skype stuff they pimped as online features at the unveiling event.

Oh then you have the fact the clouds ability to make games perform better is pretty much bullshit http://www.shacknews.com/article/79390/xbox-one-specs-supposedly-boosted-by-the-cloud

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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="stereointegrity"] even lemmings stereointegrity

Just the weak lemmings who jumped ship

cant blame them.....the cloud doesnt make games look better

It doesn't make them look better, it just makes them better

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cant wait to see when the pc version stomps on the xbone one and lembots start making excuses

also have fun going with a controller against pc players with mouse and keyboard. Going to be a slaughter

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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="stereointegrity"] even lemmings stereointegrity

Just the weak lemmings who jumped ship

cant blame them.....the cloud doesnt make games look better

the target demographic here doesn't know how that sort of technology works. If MS claims it makes games somehow look and run 5x better with it, they will believe it without question.
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#37 RR360DD
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[QUOTE="stereointegrity"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]

Just the weak lemmings who jumped ship

handssss
cant blame them.....the cloud doesnt make games look better

the target demographic here doesn't know how that sort of technology works. If MS claims it makes games somehow look and run 5x better with it, they will believe it without question.

When did MS say that?
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"Shiring explains that despite a lot of talk downplaying the importance of the cloud, that it is in fact a really big deal."

"This innovation "

Hot damn, pretty much every fanboy on this site had been owned :cool:

RR360DD

yet they can use decent hardware in their console? dat 7750 underclocked xD

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I still haven't seen one thing the cloud does that PC's haven't been doing for years.
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I still haven't seen one thing the cloud does that PC's haven't been doing for years.gamebreakerz__
and u never will.....the cloud really does nothing poor lems....
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#41 Krelian-co
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I still haven't seen one thing the cloud does that PC's haven't been doing for years.gamebreakerz__

fool sad lems into thinking what every mp server does since ever is innovation

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#42 handssss
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[QUOTE="RR360DD"][QUOTE="handssss"][QUOTE="stereointegrity"] cant blame them.....the cloud doesnt make games look better

the target demographic here doesn't know how that sort of technology works. If MS claims it makes games somehow look and run 5x better with it, they will believe it without question.

When did MS say that?

when do they not claim something along those lines when concerning the cloud? All it ever is are people from MS, related to MS, or talking to a MS-centric new source speaking in vague terms claiming the cloud tech makes everything all better somehow and misleads people into thinking only MS has that sort of technology. the only thing MS can say is that they certainly have the biggest network of servers for cloud. Well, next to google, but they aren't involved here.
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#43 Born_Lucky
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Ha ha

 

The magic cloud again.

 

This is getting funny.

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Yep more devs buying into the cloud, hurry sony you piece of shit make sure you play catch up

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so if you don't have internet, do the trees stop moving?

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#46 Miketheman83
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Lol at Sony fans in such denial. MMO's have been using cloud technology for years with great success. It's technology that's already been proven to work, assuming enough money has been spent on servers for it. Denying that looks foolish.
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#47 Jonwh18
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Lmao. Has anyone actually went to a Microsoft store and talked to a sales rep? Went to a mall with one yesterday and their sales guy said all it would be used for is cloud saves. :lol: Of course lems won't believe me, but whatever. Go to a M$ store and hear it for yourselves. 

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#48 lostrib
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Lmao. Has anyone actually went to a Microsoft store and talked to a sales rep? Went to a mall with one yesterday and their sales guy said all it would be used for is cloud saves. :lol: Of course lems won't believe me, but whatever. Go to a M$ store and hear it for yourselves. 

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i honestly wouldn't believe the minimum wage teenager at the MS store

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#49 RR360DD
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Lmao. Has anyone actually went to a Microsoft store and talked to a sales rep? Went to a mall with one yesterday and their sales guy said all it would be used for is cloud saves. :lol: Of course lems won't believe me, but whatever. Go to a M$ store and hear it for yourselves. 

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shh no more tears
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#50 Jonwh18
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[QUOTE="Jonwh18"]

Lmao. Has anyone actually went to a Microsoft store and talked to a sales rep? Went to a mall with one yesterday and their sales guy said all it would be used for is cloud saves. :lol: Of course lems won't believe me, but whatever. Go to a M$ store and hear it for yourselves. 

lostrib

i honestly wouldn't believe the minimum wage teenager at the MS store

True, but what did people really expect. What do you expect. Internet speeds aren't fast enough for a whole lot more.