TLoU2 director says you might hate the game.

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#1  Edited By deactivated-5f2b4872031c2
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So, first the dude claims the ending was not, in fact, spoiled by the leaks, when just about everyone that watched the leaks says they know how the game ends. And now he says that fans might actually hate the game. Suffice to say the guy has been on an odd kick lately. I'll give him this. Telling people they might hate your game is certainly a unique selling point, lol.

Early damage control, or just a dev being anxious, what do you think, SW?

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/the-last-of-us-2-director-says-you-might-not-like-/1100-6478271/

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If you enjoyed the original Last of Us, you might not like the sequel, writer-director Neil Druckmann says. Speaking to Wired, Druckmann said Naughty Dog has created a divisive game with The Last of Us Part II, and he expects some people to come away with a sour taste in their mouth.

"Some of [the fans of the original game] are not going to like this game, and not like where it goes, and not like what it says or the fate of characters that they love," Druckmann said. "I'd rather have people passionately hate it than just be like, 'Yeah, it was OK.'"

"I don't know whether people are going to like it or they're going to hate it, but they definitely will NOT be ambivalent about it," he added.

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#2 Ghosts4ever
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Confirmed game is bad anyways.

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@ghosts4ever said:

Confirmed game is bad anyways.

You never disappoint, dude.

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#4 deactivated-5f381b7b4ba30
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No shit, the game is a wierd mixture of tumblr tier fanfiction and his creepy torture porn fetishes

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#5 deactivated-5f3ec00254b0d
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Better that than innocuous bland shit trying not to upset snowflakes.

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#6 hardwenzen
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I feel like him saying this is a selling point. People will be curious and buy dat shiet.

@phbz said:

Better that than innocuous bland shit trying not to upset snowflakes.

^^^^

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@phbz said:

Better that than innocuous bland shit trying not to upset snowflakes.

Oh my word, this!

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At this point he's better off just shutting his mouth and let the chips fall where they may.

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Might hate the game. Will definitely hate the writing.

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@phbz said:

Better that than innocuous bland shit trying not to upset snowflakes.

I keep forgetting people play games for the "stories" lol.

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Early damage control.

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Ending doesn't matter when the bulk of the main story has been leaked and shows how bad the story is, do they expect to do a reverse Mass Effect 3 and have a vomiting induced main story while having an amazing ending? I think not

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@i_p_daily: I'm not the biggest ND fan but games are as much just a bunch of pixels you control, as movies are just moving pictures or books agglomerates of letters. As such I do want game creators to use games for self expression even if I don't agree with their views. Because that's what I want from every other medium.

There's space for dumb fun too of course.

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Neil Druckman doesn't seem very sure he's done something good. Bad news for fans.

I wonder why they did something they knew people wont like instead of something they know people will like.

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@phbz said:

@i_p_daily: I'm not the biggest ND fan but games are as much just a bunch of pixels you control, as movies are just moving pictures or books agglomerates of letters. As such I do want game creators to use games for self expression even if I don't agree with their views. Because that's what I want from every other medium.

There's space for dumb fun too of course.

Well I stopped playing the recent Star Wars game because I couldn't skip the cutscenes and I was 2 levels in lol.

I just wanna play, kill stuff, shoot stuff, race stuff etc, stories get in the way of that for me, and cut scenes are getting longer and longer because devs are starting to think they are making a Hollywood movie, and then not allowing you to skip them.

It sounds like people will be playing it just to get to the next story telling cutscene to see if the leaks are true.

We will hear all about it from the day it releases and everyday for a couple of weeks, hopefully the mods keep all discussion in the hype thread and pin it because its going to get busy lol.

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Did this really need a thread when we have a hype thread -_-

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Can't wait till it hit 40$ in couple of months +. Day 1 :D

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:P

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well i will tell you guys how good it is after i play it lol. no way im skipping this game. i love the gameplay and how brutal it is. i can careless about the story. the fun part is the gameplay.

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#20  Edited By Fedor
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This just reads like par for the course Druckmann. He always says stuff like this, in fact I think he already said these exact words in the past.

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@gifford38 said:

well i will tell you guys how good it is after i play it lol. no way im skipping this game. i love the gameplay and how brutal it is. i can careless about the story. the fun part is the gameplay.

This 100 percent.

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@gifford38 said:

well i will tell you guys how good it is after i play it lol. no way im skipping this game. i love the gameplay and how brutal it is. i can careless about the story. the fun part is the gameplay.

Well I'll be playing it too, so I'll give my two cents as well. The brutality doesn't bother me at all. I dig the realism. I do care about the story, though. But I'm not one of those people that will feel hurt if a character I love dies. I know that sh_t happens in the real world, so if you're going to make your game realistic, then it should happen there, too. Especially in a horrifying post-apocalyptic landscape.

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The shitstorm upon release will be hilarious to watch. Get your popcorn machines ready folks.

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I take back what I said about the game in the last thread. Now I'm worried--Gonna wait for the youtube videos first before I buy. Neil was so confidant in the last remark about the ending not being spoiled......and then this. I'll wait.

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@subspecies said:
@gifford38 said:

well i will tell you guys how good it is after i play it lol. no way im skipping this game. i love the gameplay and how brutal it is. i can careless about the story. the fun part is the gameplay.

Well I'll be playing it too, so I'll give my two cents as well. The brutality doesn't bother me at all. I dig the realism. I do care about the story, though. But I'm not one of those people that will feel hurt if a character I love dies. I know that sh_t happens in the real world, so if you're going to make your game realistic, then it should happen there, too. Especially in a horrifying post-apocalyptic landscape.

Yeah i know. I hope there is a lot of jump scares in the game to.

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@i_p_daily: hey snowflake.

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I'm not going to buy this one. After playing the first, I'm good not continuing that story.

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@i_p_daily:

Not everyone life can be as bland as a gamer who only likes racers and x1 & PC shared exclusives.

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@phbz said:

Better that than innocuous bland shit trying not to upset snowflakes.

This game was made for snowflakes.

But we need more PoC's, but but where's the gay people? But but why are the females sexualized ?

It's made for that crowd can't ever stfu and has to find offense in everything.

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@Litchie said:

Neil Druckman doesn't seem very sure he's done something good. Bad news for fans.

I wonder why they did something they knew people wont like instead of something they know people will like.

Because hes a narcissist prick who thinks you must be worthy to buy his products. This is common in entertainment media now and a byproduct of living in a booming economy for a long time. That may change very soon though.

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Uh, there are already people who hate the game.

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#32  Edited By PAL360
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Didn't he just say that some people may hate the direction the story and characters take? You may hate the fate of some character or something like that? He even said 'people definitely will NOT be ambivalent about it'...

None of those claims have anything to do with the quality of the game! If something it shows alot of confidence.

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Bottom line is I like fun games and across the board, this does not look fun - at all.

Easy pass.

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@PAL360 said:

Didn't he just say that some people may hate the direction the story and characters take? You may hate the fate of some character or something like that? He even said 'people definitely will NOT be ambivalent about it'...

None of those claims have anything to do with the quality of the game! If something it shows alot of confidence.

Considering how character and story heavy the game is, not liking what they do with the characters or the story would be pretty damning. If the original had those issues it never would have reached anywhere near the acclaim it did, because the gameplay was sorely lacking and was supplemented heavily by those factors.

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@wervenom:

"It's made for that crowd can't ever stfu and has to find offense in everything."

- And ironically, the crowd that constantly gets offended about the smallest sign of lgbtq support can't seem to stfu either.

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@fedor: Honestly i think he is just predicting some immature hate. Don't forget these days we have people hating games because they didn't like the face of the character, or some decisions complety out of the actual quality of the product.

I'm not defending the guy or game, by the way. I like ND, but not to the point of buying their games at launch.

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@wervenom: If you're having a meltdown because of a video and its subject matter, calling for boycotts and/or spoiling the game for other people, I'm sorry to break this to you but you're the definition of a snowflake.

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#38  Edited By WeRVenom
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@phbz: I don't call for boycotts. And do you honestly want to discuss which side calls for more boycotts? As for spoiling things people have got off on that shit for years. Who can forget this! Snape kills Dumbledore

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@nepu7supastar7: I don't think that many were offended by the LGBTQ stuff.

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@wervenom:

You kidding? When the leaks came out, practically every right-wing loon gamer was offended by the lgbtq stuff. Some even on this board don't want to buy it for the sole reason of it having some left-wing agenda bs.

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@subspecies said:

"I don't know whether people are going to like it or they're going to hate it, but they definitely will NOT be ambivalent about it," he added.

A large element of what made the ending so great in the first was the degree of ambivalence it created in the player, which I'd argue was its greatest strength.

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@nepu7supastar7 said:

@wervenom:

You kidding? When the leaks came out, practically every right-wing loon gamer was offended by the lgbtq stuff. Some even on this board don't want to buy it for the sole reason of it having some left-wing agenda bs.

No one's offended by lesbians. It's 2020 dude. We're offended by these talentless hacks highjacking beloved franchises and injecting their tumblr tier fanfiction into them.

It's people like you why we got Game Of Thrones Season 8

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@subspecies: Strange thing to come out and say.

But I guess it´s better to come out and say that and then when people actually play the game and reach the end, they will go - uhhh, this is not too bad - instead of just thinking this end is shitty.

But wonder why it would bad.

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@pinkribbonscars:

People like me love to point out the hypocrisy of the right wing snowflakes. The very same snowflakes who try to call on the left on getting offended by everything. Yes, right wing snowflakes exist and they're fucking everywhere.

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@ermacness said:

@i_p_daily:

Not everyone life can be as bland as a gamer who only likes racers and x1 & PC shared exclusives.

Not everyone tow's Sony's line like you , and. I play games to play them, not to watch them that's what movies are for.

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@i_p_daily: hey snowflake.

Did you quote me by mistake, judging by your name you seem to be confused on a regular basis.

Or maybe you read my post wrong, again entirely possible judging by your name. I don't care for ANY story be it gory, violent, safe, etc, etc, etc.

Glad we had this chat, now go play in the park or something lol.

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@nepu7supastar7 said:

@pinkribbonscars:

People like me love to point out the hypocrisy of the right wing snowflakes. The very same snowflakes who try to call on the left on getting offended by everything. Yes, right wing snowflakes exist and they're fucking everywhere.

0/10

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@pinkribbonscars:

0/10 for what?