To All Wii Bashers : What will you do if Wii wins this gen? ( With Poll )!!

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#1 Link_Soul
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Well i see soooo many Wii bashing Topics with minimum or NO logic in them and i ask my self....

"What will these people, who are in denial, do if Wii actualy wins this gen and become as succesfull as DS? "

And so i ask you. Dont flame, dont make jokes. Just answer my question because clearly i dont think you know. Will you still call Wii a failure or GC 1.5? Will you say that all of the world is poor? Will you say that Wii is an excuse of a console?

Please just tell me one thing. Has the Wii ever showed you a single sign of its failure? Just one?

I can tell you 10 for PS3. But can you name 1 for Wii? And the graphics is already accepted as a disadvantage LONGGG Ago and people dont care, so give me a real sign or reason that Wii will fail.

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#2 Link_Soul
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Post some thoughts you bashers.
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#3 bullet_math
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not going to happen
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#4 hazbazz
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They will probably still flame it, saying casuals are poor
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#5 Parl
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Wii domination confirmed.... No, really.
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#6 iceberg_shorty
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Take a simi-automatic, put it to the side of my head and pull the trigger!

Luckily I won't have to do this, because the average casual gamer hasn't showed any interest in a Nintendo console, nor it's games since 1997 (Goldeneye) and we all know that casuals determine the amount of consoles sold each gen.

I don't understand why sheep actually think the wii will win this gen, when Nintendo hasn't been on top of the gaming market for over a decade.  You are sadly mistaken if you think that dated graphics and a new controller will put Nintendo on top again, and don't give me that crap about how it's cheaper either.  Last time I checked the GC was $100 less than both it's competitors last gen and still ended up last, so the "cheap" argument is invalid especially when the core 360 is only $50 more than the wii this time around.  The franchises Nintendo offers argument is also invalid seeing as how these same franchise(Mario,Zelda) didn't save Nintendo 's last two consoles from being in last place during those generations of gaming. 

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#7 DisPimpin
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You sheep are living in a dream world.  Anyone who buys a Wii will probably have at leat one of the other two at some point, but the same can't be said about the Wii.  There is no way it can win anything other than this holiday season.
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#8 hojobojo
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The DS had out dated graphics and new control but that didn't stop it owning the PSP and that's what the Wii is going to do with home consoles. It's basically the same as DS vs PSP - overpriced competition, flawed hardware same old control scheme.....
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#9 Shazenab
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You sheep are living in a dream world. Anyone who buys a Wii will probably have at leat one of the other two at some point, but the same can't be said about the Wii. There is no way it can win anything other than this holiday season.DisPimpin
Well that's the point... Most will get a Wii AND a 360 and PS3, so everyone would own one. when it comes to the 360 and PS3, there is little point in buying a 360 and PS3. A second console can still come first, if it's EVERYONES second console.
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The DS had out dated graphics and new control but that didn't stop it owning the PSP and that's what the Wii is going to do with home consoles. It's basically the same as DS vs PSP - overpriced competition, flawed hardware same old control scheme.....hojobojo

Oh Please, don't give me that bull**** why are you comparing the sales outcome of a handheld to a console when they both are in two totally different markets.  GBA outsold it's competitors, but the PS2 and Xbox(a new console on the market, with a lot to prove) outsold the GC, so your argument is invalid.

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#11 PC-PS2man
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Take a simi-automatic, put it to the side of my head and pull the trigger!

Luckily I won't have to do this, because the average casual gamer hasn't showed any interest in a Nintendo console, nor it's games since 1997 (Goldeneye) and we all know that casuals determine the amount of consoles sold each gen.

Nintendo isn't trying to reach the casuals, which already have a kiddy image of Nintendo imbedded into their heads. Nintendo is trying to keep the hardcore Nintendo gamer, while attracting non-gamers, which don't care about graphics or public image.

I don't understand why sheep actually think the wii will win this gen, when Nintendo hasn't been on top of the gaming market for over a decade.

The Wii is much different then previous Nintendo consoles. They tried to compete graphically, it didn't work. Now they are thinking there hole approach.

You are sadly mistaken if you think that dated graphics and a new controller will put Nintendo on top again, and don't give me that crap about how it's cheaper either. Last time I checked the GC was $100 less than both it's competitors last gen and still ended up last, so the "cheap" argument is invalid especially when the core 360 is only $50 more than the wii this time around.

Don't give me that old and flawed argument comparing the 360 Core to the Wii. Any gamer who buys a 360 Core is very ignorent and stupid.

The franchises Nintendo offers argument is also invalid seeing as how these same franchise(Mario,Zelda) didn't save Nintendo 's last two consoles from being in last place during those generations of gaming.

Yet increased third-party support is what the last consoles did not offer. They seem to be getting more third-party support for the Wii in its first year then they did with the GCN and N64 combined.

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#12 PC-PS2man
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[QUOTE="hojobojo"]The DS had out dated graphics and new control but that didn't stop it owning the PSP and that's what the Wii is going to do with home consoles. It's basically the same as DS vs PSP - overpriced competition, flawed hardware same old control scheme.....iceberg_shorty

Oh Please, don't give me that bull**** why are you comparing the sales outcome of a handheld to a console when they both are in two totally different markets. GBA outsold it's competitors, but the PS2 and Xbox(a new console on the market, with a lot to prove) outsold the GC, so your argument is invalid.



What competitors did the GBA have? I mean REAL competitors?
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#13 Parl
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You sheep are living in a dream world. Anyone who buys a Wii will probably have at leat one of the other two at some point, but the same can't be said about the Wii. There is no way it can win anything other than this holiday season.DisPimpin
Yeah, over 95% of gamers and journalists can't be wrong. Wii am failed.
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#14 SpartanCawderof
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welcome to system wars, where logic goes to die
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#15 tumle
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eerr.. i would probably still be playing my 360 and ps3 since Nintendo never ever had anything that interested me. never liked the art style of any of there games, never liked there controllers and don't think i would like there new gimmicky controller if a game needs a different kind of control setup it usually comes with that kind of controller, like a light gun, guitar, camera and dance mat.
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#16 Sherpico
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I'll buy it so that i'd be able to fit in with the Sheep. :P
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#17 StealthSting
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I'll buy it so that i'd be able to fit in with the Sheep. :PSherpico
Hmm..................:P
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#18 Mitsugi123
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Wonder why the hell it managed to win, look at some of the games and then see if I want one. If it so happens that I still don't want one and I can't see for the life of me that anyone else would want one, I shall put a revolver to my head and blow my brains out.

Because me blowing my brains out would make more sense than the Wii winning.
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#19 Sherpico
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[QUOTE="Sherpico"]I'll buy it so that i'd be able to fit in with the Sheep. :PStealthSting
Hmm..................:P

Am i accepted in your family? :idea: 
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#20 StealthSting
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[QUOTE="StealthSting"][QUOTE="Sherpico"]I'll buy it so that i'd be able to fit in with the Sheep. :PSherpico
Hmm..................:P

Am i accepted in your family? :idea:



Well part of me is in the family but contrary to yesterday when you explained to me the origin of your name i have to start wondering... You have been a Sheep all along haven't you?
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#21 tocool340
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[QUOTE="hojobojo"]The DS had out dated graphics and new control but that didn't stop it owning the PSP and that's what the Wii is going to do with home consoles. It's basically the same as DS vs PSP - overpriced competition, flawed hardware same old control scheme.....iceberg_shorty

Oh Please, don't give me that bull**** why are you comparing the sales outcome of a handheld to a console when they both are in two totally different markets.  GBA outsold it's competitors, but the PS2 and Xbox(a new console on the market, with a lot to prove) outsold the GC, so your argument is invalid.

You argument i invalid because GC had second best graphics and it didn't sale so well.........
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[QUOTE="hojobojo"]The DS had out dated graphics and new control but that didn't stop it owning the PSP and that's what the Wii is going to do with home consoles. It's basically the same as DS vs PSP - overpriced competition, flawed hardware same old control scheme.....iceberg_shorty

Oh Please, don't give me that bull**** why are you comparing the sales outcome of a handheld to a console when they both are in two totally different markets.  GBA outsold it's competitors, but the PS2 and Xbox(a new console on the market, with a lot to prove) outsold the GC, so your argument is invalid.

Uh, no. :|
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#23 Sherpico
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[QUOTE="Sherpico"][QUOTE="StealthSting"][QUOTE="Sherpico"]I'll buy it so that i'd be able to fit in with the Sheep. :PStealthSting
Hmm..................:P

Am i accepted in your family? :idea:



Well part of me is in the family but contrary to yesterday when you explained to me the origin of your name i have to start wondering... You have been a Sheep all along haven't you?

I started gaming as a sheep yes....."Back in the day, i owned an nes/snes/n64 and more recently a Cube". My handheld collection included a fat original gameboy/the slimmed down original gameboy/gameboy color/original gameboy advance/gameboy advance sp. What does that make me?
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#24 HeedleGlavin
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They'll still bash it, of course. And come up with some damage control - "bu...teh secondary console....bu...bu"
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#25 digitalisfx
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Sigh, all this argument makes me wish Sega systems was still around. Dreamcast owned!
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#26 Ericvon71
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So basically it is a sure win for Nintendo, so 5 yrs from now you guys are so very sure they will win this gen!
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#27 StealthSting
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[QUOTE="StealthSting"][QUOTE="Sherpico"][QUOTE="StealthSting"][QUOTE="Sherpico"]I'll buy it so that i'd be able to fit in with the Sheep. :PSherpico
Hmm..................:P

Am i accepted in your family? :idea:



Well part of me is in the family but contrary to yesterday when you explained to me the origin of your name i have to start wondering... You have been a Sheep all along haven't you?

I started gaming as a sheep yes....."Back in the day, i owned an nes/snes/n64 and more recently a Cube". My handheld collection included a fat original gameboy/the slimmed down original gameboy/gameboy color/original gameboy advance/gameboy advance sp. What does that make me?

A gamer! I wans't really beeing serious althought i think you knew that.:P
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#28 Sherpico
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^ :wink:
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#29 fatzombiepigeon
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They will probably still flame it, saying casuals are poorhazbazz

Yes they will. But sheep called the PS2 casual and all cows who played it casual to justify the Gamecube's poor sales.

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#30 Konfusion
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[QUOTE="hazbazz"]They will probably still flame it, saying casuals are poorfatzombiepigeon

Yes they will. But sheep called the PS2 casual and all cows who played it casual to justify the Gamecube's poor sales.

Some people love to look dumb, I guess. But I'm not trolling -- I can't deny I still consider the PS2 craaaap, however I never disagree that it pwned the gen. Anyway Wii is too different this time around. Nintendo is outstanding. Anyone who ignores the Wii simply cannot call himself a video game player, because there's great gaming ahead. Love or hate Mario, you will have FUN with that system, unless you're a h4t3r n00b.
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#31 HeedleGlavin
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[QUOTE="fatzombiepigeon"]

[QUOTE="hazbazz"]They will probably still flame it, saying casuals are poorKonfusion

Yes they will. But sheep called the PS2 casual and all cows who played it casual to justify the Gamecube's poor sales.

Some people love to look dumb, I guess. But I'm not trolling -- I can't deny I still consider the PS2 craaaap, however I never disagree that it pwned the gen. Anyway Wii is too different this time around. Nintendo is outstanding. Anyone who ignores the Wii simply cannot call himself a video game player, because there's great gaming ahead. Love or hate Mario, you will have FUN with that system, unless you're a h4t3r n00b.

Agreed. Good to see you on the boards again, man.
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#32 hellraiser_07
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It'll probably win, but those kids here will still make a graphical comparition between the Wii and the PS3/360 .
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#33 Zerostatic0
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Take a simi-automatic, put it to the side of my head and pull the trigger!

Luckily I won't have to do this, because the average casual gamer hasn't showed any interest in a Nintendo console, nor it's games since 1997 (Goldeneye) and we all know that casuals determine the amount of consoles sold each gen.

I don't understand why sheep actually think the wii will win this gen, when Nintendo hasn't been on top of the gaming market for over a decade. You are sadly mistaken if you think that dated graphics and a new controller will put Nintendo on top again, and don't give me that crap about how it's cheaper either. Last time I checked the GC was $100 less than both it's competitors last gen and still ended up last, so the "cheap" argument is invalid especially when the core 360 is only $50 more than the wii this time around. The franchises Nintendo offers argument is also invalid seeing as how these same franchise(Mario,Zelda) didn't save Nintendo 's last two consoles from being in last place during those generations of gaming.

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yeah, good call iceberg_shorty, casuals haven't shown any interest in the wii, at all! LOL
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#34 mr_pops238
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wii will never win. Its impossible. It will die out in 2 years with less than 12 million sold.

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[QUOTE="hojobojo"]The DS had out dated graphics and new control but that didn't stop it owning the PSP and that's what the Wii is going to do with home consoles. It's basically the same as DS vs PSP - overpriced competition, flawed hardware same old control scheme.....iceberg_shorty

Oh Please, don't give me that bull**** why are you comparing the sales outcome of a handheld to a console when they both are in two totally different markets. GBA outsold it's competitors, but the PS2 and Xbox(a new console on the market, with a lot to prove) outsold the GC, so your argument is invalid.



Gamecube was more powerful than the PS2.

Last generation, the weakest console, the PS2, sold the most.
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#36 Berserker_2
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Please just tell me one thing. Has the Wii ever showed you a single sign of its failure? Just one?Link_Soul
Signs of Wii's failure: 1) The attach rate of Zelda TP and the overall attach rate. (I argue that Zelda was the only reason why the Wii sold. At launch, more Zelda games sold than available Wii's. The overall attach rate was just under 2 games near launch.) 2) Lack of 3rd party support. (The same scenario is repeating itself. If you call Red Steel and Far Cry 3rd party support, then the Wii is doomed.) 3) Graphics. (People expected Xbox 1 graphics and they got Far Cry which was not an Xbox 1 port. It was an entirely new game developed from "the ground, up". If you think people don't care for graphics, then why was there an outcry for component cables?)
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#37 -Reggaeton-
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Live with it.
It still has too few games for me to consider buying it.
Oh and i already have a GC.
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#38 Berserker_2
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[QUOTE="iceberg_shorty"]

[QUOTE="hojobojo"]The DS had out dated graphics and new control but that didn't stop it owning the PSP and that's what the Wii is going to do with home consoles. It's basically the same as DS vs PSP - overpriced competition, flawed hardware same old control scheme.....Lilac_Benjie

Oh Please, don't give me that bull**** why are you comparing the sales outcome of a handheld to a console when they both are in two totally different markets. GBA outsold it's competitors, but the PS2 and Xbox(a new console on the market, with a lot to prove) outsold the GC, so your argument is invalid.



Gamecube was more powerful than the PS2.

Last generation, the weakest console, the PS2, sold the most.

True, but it also had a year head start and a legion of PS1 fans.
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#39 Shadow_Elite192
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To busy playing Halo 3.
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#40 GunSmith1_basic
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Are graphics all that important.  At this point, the PS3 and 360 are huge battleships and the Wii is a submarine.  Wii= less firepower- but with a huge tactical edge.

The huge amount of crumby downloadable internet games proves that graphics are definitely not everything.  People are growning out of the obsession that sought to smooth out all those harsh lines in the N64/PSone days.  Fact is that the wii's graphics will never be technical liability, only an aesthetic one.  The only thing that could kill the wii is if it tanks in third party support like the cube and 64 did.  If the third party wakes up for the wii, though, it definitely has a shot to outsell the others this gen. 

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#41 palaric8
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wii is last gen honey
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#42 Tristam22
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palaric and Mr. Pops will commit suicide.
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lol national Wii day!!! That would be SICK!
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[QUOTE="Link_Soul"]Please just tell me one thing. Has the Wii ever showed you a single sign of its failure? Just one?Berserker_2
Signs of Wii's failure: 1) The attach rate of Zelda TP and the overall attach rate. (I argue that Zelda was the only reason why the Wii sold. At launch, more Zelda games sold than available Wii's. The overall attach rate was just under 2 games near launch.) 2) Lack of 3rd party support. (The same scenario is repeating itself. If you call Red Steel and Far Cry 3rd party support, then the Wii is doomed.) 3) Graphics. (People expected Xbox 1 graphics and they got Far Cry which was not an Xbox 1 port. It was an entirely new game developed from "the ground, up". If you think people don't care for graphics, then why was there an outcry for component cables?)

Far Cry is probably the worst looking game on the Wii and everyone knows the Wii can do much better, even first generation PS2 games looked better, so don't even bring that up because honestly that game shouldn't exist, Metorid Prime 3 will show off what the Wii can do in the FPS genre.

Secondly, it's getting much better third party support, DDR and Guitar Hero coming to a Nintendo console is just unheard of so that's a sign of good things to come. Many other original/known third party games are coming to the Wii, the proof is there if you even bother looking at the list of release dates for games this year.

So, most people who bought a Wii at launch also wanted Zelda? That may be true, but if that was the only real reason that it sold so well,  then why the heck is the console still sold out? I mean it'll probably won't be until April or May before you can actually walk into a store and pick one up. I don't see the Wii failing this Gen, I see it easily becoming more of a success then the Gamecube ever was, and even selling as well as the other consoles in the long run.

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#45 OXIIIIXO
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Well i see soooo many Wii bashing Topics with minimum or NO logic in them and i ask my self....

"What will these people, who are in denial, do if Wii actualy wins this gen and become as succesfull as DS? "

And so i ask you. Dont flame, dont make jokes. Just answer my question because clearly i dont think you know. Will you still call Wii a failure or GC 1.5? Will you say that all of the world is poor? Will you say that Wii is an excuse of a console?

Please just tell me one thing. Has the Wii ever showed you a single sign of its failure? Just one?

I can tell you 10 for PS3. But can you name 1 for Wii? And the graphics is already accepted as a disadvantage LONGGG Ago and people dont care, so give me a real sign or reason that Wii will fail.

Link_Soul

Maybe only last gen Nintendo fans are buying the Wii and the bad has yet to come?

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#46 Zerostatic0
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At this point, the PS3 and 360 are huge battleships and the Wii is a submarine. Wii= less firepower- but with a huge tactical edge.GunSmith1_basic
Great comparison
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#47 TheCrimsonKoopa
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If Wii wins, I honestly won't care. I'll be to busy enjoying my 360.
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#48 lolfaqs
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not going to happenbullet_math

hehe

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#49 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Wii won't and can't win this generation in SystemWars -- this forum is ruled by anarchy.

Edit: Old Thread is Old. :|

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#50 SSCyborg
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[QUOTE="bullet_math"]not going to happenlolfaqs

hehe

QFnecrobump Also, it'll need actual games before it can win kthxbai