To everyone who considers Heavy Rain the epitome of mature storytelling..

...have you played Shattered Memories?

Like, seriously. Have you?

I finished watching some Gametrailers show and everyone there talked about how amazing Heavy Rain's mature storytelling is. Alan Wake is also mentioned yet a little game, released by a hype-free game developer, called Shattered Memories seems to have never happened.

What the hell is wrong with these idiots? From gamers i kinda understand, we cant buy every good game out there so we end up talking about what we can afford to play. But why is the game with one of the most surprisingly clever and engaging characters and narrative to come out this gen being COMPLETELY ignored by the press? And the few who talk about it seem to have given it no thought whatsoever.

You may love or completely hate what it has to offer as a SH game but the storytelling is more than worth mentioning, yet, it never is.

Its head and shoulders above your typical story-focused videogame, its cheap and its out on PSP, PS2 and Wii. I urge you to experience it (on Wii if possible) and look up some of the amazing theories floating around the internet.

It really is something rare; Videogame storytelling that doesnt treat gamers like dumb, mouthbreading teenagers. Something that keeps you thinking and realizing important things even after you finish it.

Maybe if they re-released it on the PS360, the terrible dedicated-press gaming is stuck with would have given it half the attention it deserves.

Such a shame.

edit:

nevermind lol i thoughtit was an indie PC game my mistake, i don't own any systems it's released on.

do you have a link for this said game?

Dead-Memories

Well, here's GS's review

Do you mean Silent Hill: Shattered Memories?mrmusicman247

Yes.

Wow, no-one knows about it!

Depressing:(

Well definetly the fact that everything else in the game failed in people' s eyes don' t help. In order for a story based game to be fully realized everything, even gameplay has to be good. Look at Alpha Protocol it has a great story that definetly changes with each choice however since the game was sub par most people would prefer to ignore the game, story included.

Have you played Gears of War 2? Best most touching story ever. MARIAAA!! I will forever remember that shotgun scene too...SaltyMeatballs

[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]Have you played Gears of War 2? Best most touching story ever. MARIAAA!! I will forever remember that shotgun scene too...siddhu33

Except I will remember the shotgun scene.

Well definetly the fact that everything else in the game failed in people' s eyes don' t help. In order for a story based game to be fully realized everything, even gameplay has to be good. Look at Alpha Protocol it has a great story that definetly changes with each choice however since the game was sub par most people would prefer to ignore the game, story included.

KamikazeDonut

It's a game I really want to play but I don't have anything to play it on.

It's a game I really want to play but I don't have anything to play it on.

BZSIN

[QUOTE="BZSIN"]

It's a game I really want to play but I don't have anything to play it on.

Thunderdrone

Theres a big, yet still subtle difference between good story, storytelling, dialogue, and to a lesser extent voice acting.

I'd argue something like Dragon Age has a very mediocre story, but great storytelling. The Witcher i think has a great story, but not the best storytelling. As for the moment, im playing Starcraft 2 and i havent gone enough of its story and story telling to judge, but is got great dialogue.

Can you seperate Silent Hill's story from its story telling? From what i've seen its story telling isnt so great, though it has a great story.

... hasn't been playing games for very long ?

...have you played Shattered Memories?

Like, seriously. Have you?

I finished watching some Gametrailers show and everyone there talked about how amazing Heavy Rain's mature storytelling is. Alan Wake is also mentioned yet a little game, released by a hype-free game developer, called Shattered Memories seems to have never happened.

What the hell is wrong with these idiots? From gamers i kinda understand, we cant buy every good game out there so we end up talking about what we can afford to play. But why is the game with one of the most surprisingly clever and engaging characters and narrative to come out this gen being COMPLETELY ignored by the press? And the few who talk about it seem to have given it no thought whatsoever.

You may love or completely hate what it has to offer as a SH game but the storytelling is more than worth mentioning, yet, it never is.

Its head and shoulders above your typical story-focused videogame, its cheap and its out on PSP, PS2 and Wii. I urge you to experience it (on Wii if possible) and look up some of the amazing theories floating around the internet.

It really is something rare; Videogame storytelling that doesnt treat gamers like dumb, mouthbreading teenagers. Something that keeps you thinking and realizing important things even after you finish it.

Maybe if they re-released it on the PS360, the terrible dedicated-press gaming is stuck with would have given it half the attention it deserves.

Such a shame.

Thunderdrone

Anyone who considers those two games the epitome of mature storytelling probably has no idea what mature storytelling is.

[QUOTE="Thunderdrone"]

...have you played Shattered Memories?

Like, seriously. Have you?

I finished watching some Gametrailers show and everyone there talked about how amazing Heavy Rain's mature storytelling is. Alan Wake is also mentioned yet a little game, released by a hype-free game developer, called Shattered Memories seems to have never happened.

What the hell is wrong with these idiots? From gamers i kinda understand, we cant buy every good game out there so we end up talking about what we can afford to play. But why is the game with one of the most surprisingly clever and engaging characters and narrative to come out this gen being COMPLETELY ignored by the press? And the few who talk about it seem to have given it no thought whatsoever.

You may love or completely hate what it has to offer as a SH game but the storytelling is more than worth mentioning, yet, it never is.

Its head and shoulders above your typical story-focused videogame, its cheap and its out on PSP, PS2 and Wii. I urge you to experience it (on Wii if possible) and look up some of the amazing theories floating around the internet.

It really is something rare; Videogame storytelling that doesnt treat gamers like dumb, mouthbreading teenagers. Something that keeps you thinking and realizing important things even after you finish it.

Maybe if they re-released it on the PS360, the terrible dedicated-press gaming is stuck with would have given it half the attention it deserves.

Such a shame.

Animal-Mother

Theres a big, yet still subtle difference between good story, storytelling, dialogue, and to a lesser extent voice acting.

I'd argue something like Dragon Age has a very mediocre story, but great storytelling. The Witcher i think has a great story, but not the best storytelling. As for the moment, im playing Starcraft 2 and i havent gone enough of its story and story telling to judge, but is got great dialogue.

Can you seperate Silent Hill's story from its story telling? From what i've seen its story telling isnt so great, though it has a great story.

XaosII

the best part about Heavy Rain is the QTE's

the storytelling isn't anything special, nor is the story itself

I should really try shattered memories out.

Heavy rains story and storytelling are poor, plotholes everywhere, leaps of logic that make no sense, terrible voice acting. We have seen it in movies everywhere done 100 times better.

Alan Wake has much a much more fleshed out and unique story.

the best part about Heavy Rain is the QTE's

the storytelling isn't anything special, nor is the story itself

88mphSlayer

[QUOTE="88mphSlayer"]

the best part about Heavy Rain is the QTE's

the storytelling isn't anything special, nor is the story itself

SparkyProtocol

what's the point of altering a story that's not that interesting to begin with?

[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"][QUOTE="88mphSlayer"]

the best part about Heavy Rain is the QTE's

the storytelling isn't anything special, nor is the story itself

88mphSlayer

what's the point of altering a story that's not that interesting to begin with?

Hmmm,there is actually people that consider HR to be the epitome of mature storytelling?

That´s ....surprising to say the least....

Hmmm,there is actually people that consider HR to be the epitome of mature storytelling?

That´s ....surprising to say the least....

Hmmm,there is actually people that consider HR to be the epitome of mature storytelling?

That´s ....surprising to say the least....

TC, have you ever played Heavy Rain??

Well definetly the fact that everything else in the game failed in people' s eyes don' t help. In order for a story based game to be fully realized everything, even gameplay has to be good. Look at Alpha Protocol it has a great story that definetly changes with each choice however since the game was sub par most people would prefer to ignore the game, story included.

Now I don't know whether I should order SH:SM or not :? I am tempted and this topic is tipping me slightly, I was gonna get odst though.

TC, have you ever played Heavy Rain??

W1NGMAN-

Now I don't know whether I should order SH:SM or not :? I am tempted and this topic is tipping me slightly, I was gonna get odst though.

SapSacPrime

[QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

TC, have you ever played Heavy Rain??

Thunderdrone

Ha figured, that's all I needed to know.

[QUOTE="BZSIN"]

It's a game I really want to play but I don't have anything to play it on.

Thunderdrone

Nope, sold it just before this generation started. It'll be one of the first games I play when I get a Wii, though.

[QUOTE="Thunderdrone"][QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

TC, have you ever played Heavy Rain??

W1NGMAN-

Ha figured, that's all I needed to know.

I dont recall saying it was a bad game or that it had a terrible story, just that SM's is alot better yet no-one mentions it.

But i'm glad that gave you some kind of closure, i suppose,

They raved about shattered memories on the bombcast for almost an entire episode...

[QUOTE="KamikazeDonut"]Oh wait I thought you were talking about the PSP games I always get them mixed up for some reason but, I looked it up and saw that it was the Wii game mess up on my part.Slashkice

It's a PSP game too.

If you played Silent Hill 1 and 3 then shattered memories is not that great, and the ending is not a twist or surprising.

[QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

[QUOTE="Thunderdrone"] Played? Nope. I know the story though.Thunderdrone

Ha figured, that's all I needed to know.

I dont recall saying it was a bad game or that it had a terrible story, just that SM's is alot better yet no-one mentions it.

But i'm glad that gave you some kind of closure, i suppose,

I also don't recall me accusing you of ever calling it a bad game or calling the story terrible, but I just found it funny you would ask people here if they've played SM when you are self haven't even played the game you're comparing it to.

Considering HR has multiple endings and such, I'm curious as to whichvids on youtube you watched or read up on that helped you "know the story" ... or maybe you're going to give me the infamous "I played it at a friends house"?