To many pretendos here

Seems like no matter what nintendo does people hate on them. They are becoming the next apple if you ask me. Nintendo has shown they are going back to the core gamers yet all the pretendos out there say they are fans then scream and cry how its a "gimmick". Anything different from Nintendo is called that word. If the core gamers had its way gaming would never change. We need people who can bring gaming forward!

The only people complaining about Nintendo are Sony fanboys, honestly.

I agree. I just wish for people to calm their hate down untill we at least get more info at the WiiU.

Sorry, I don't view a console with a controller that is a giant tablet as "core". Come back when Nintendo doesn't rely on gimmicks to sell their hardware.Vari3ty

oh god......

Sorry, I don't view a console with a controller that is a giant tablet as "core". Come back when Nintendo doesn't rely on gimmicks to sell their hardware.Vari3ty

Sorry, I don't view a gamer who has to try and label themselves as though they belong to some "special" group a "core" gamer :lol:

Seems like no matter what nintendo does people hate on them. They are becoming the next apple if you ask me. Nintendo has shown they are going back to the core gamers yet all the pretendos out there say they are fans then scream and cry how its a "gimmick". Anything different from Nintendo is called that word. If the core gamers had its way gaming would never change. We need people who can bring gaming forward!

dontshackzmii

ON TOPIC: Yeah, Like Zophar87 said, its Sony fanboys that are the only ones complaining and hating.

Gimmicks can be intended for core gamers too, why does gaming need to move forward and who are you to tell people not to have an opinion unless its showered with praise? I'm looking forward to hearing more about it but I find topics like this a little strangetomarlyn

gaming will die if it does not change

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]Gimmicks can be intended for core gamers too, why does gaming need to move forward and who are you to tell people not to have an opinion unless its showered with praise? I'm looking forward to hearing more about it but I find topics like this a little strangedontshackzmii

gaming will die if it does not change

Nintendo has shown they are going back to the core gamersdontshackzmii

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]Nintendo has shown they are going back to the core gamersUCF_Knight

if you have to ask then there is no point even trying.

[QUOTE="UCF_Knight"][QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]Nintendo has shown they are going back to the core gamersdontshackzmii

if you have to ask then there is no point even trying.

I'm under the assumption that anyone who claims the Nintendo Wii is bad wasn't a loyal fan to begin with. :P

There are tons of "core gamer" games there, and any "core gamer" would see that since they wouldn't rely on commercials to tell them what's good.

I personally don't see what everyone's problem is with the Wii U though. You play it the same way you do other consoles, but it has an added screen that could be good for something. It's an improvement over what is currently available (as long as it's not too heavy).

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]Nintendo has shown they are going back to the core gamersUCF_Knight

I'm under the assumption that anyone who claims the Nintendo Wii is bad wasn't a loyal fan to begin with. :P

There are tons of "core gamer" games there, and any "core gamer" would see that since they wouldn't rely on commercials to tell them what's good.

I personally don't see what everyone's problem is with the Wii U though. You play it the same way you do other consoles, but it has an added screen that could be good for something. It's an improvement over what is currently available (as long as it's not too heavy).

Ly_the_Fairy

Nintendo makes the best hardware and software. Enjoy buying 3 xbox 720s and having to get your ps4 fixed.

Nintendo makes the best hardware and software. Enjoy buying 3 xbox 720s and having to get your ps4 fixed.

dontshackzmii

Nintendo makes the best hardware and software. Enjoy buying 3 xbox 720s and having to get your ps4 fixed.

dontshackzmii

this is SW why should they get a free pass?

The only people complaining about Nintendo are Sony fanboys, honestly.

Zophar87

cant tell if serious

Nintendo makes the best hardware and software. Enjoy buying 3 xbox 720s and having to get your ps4 fixed.

dontshackzmii

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

Nintendo makes the best hardware and software. Enjoy buying 3 xbox 720s and having to get your ps4 fixed.

VensInferno

why are people crying over these games so much? Its not like they are even going to buy them. Wii u and 3ds is where nintendo is going core. Not talking about wii!

[QUOTE="VensInferno"]

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

Nintendo makes the best hardware and software. Enjoy buying 3 xbox 720s and having to get your ps4 fixed.

dontshackzmii

why are people crying over these games so much? Its not like they are even going to buy them. Wii u and 3ds is where nintendo is going core. Not talking about wii!

My problem with Nintendo is they rely too much on the same things over and over again. Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Fire Emblem (which is the only nintendo IP I like btw), and all the other games I don't care to list. My favorite genre is RPGs but it would get boring as hell if the only thing on the market was DnD games or Diablo clones.

Also they need to get rid of friends codes. The concept is stupid and goes against the strengths of online gaming. Put an internet lock on the console like the other consoles have for parental controls and there is no issue if Nintendo wants to think of the kids.

Another major issue is region blocking. I don't support this practice out of principle because it is money grubbing at its finest. If there was no region block people wouldn't be saying a word about those missing games since they could just import them like I can for PC games.

Nintendo needs to bring over the games people are clamoring about and try some new ideas. If anything I think Nintendo has the best potential to make a good console because they aren't trying to make computers like Sony and Microsoft are. Of course they won't because the soccer moms and nongamers are a much more lucrative audience then us fussy gamers who want some variation and are never truly happy.

Wii u and 3ds is where nintendo is going core.dontshackzmii

[QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"]

I'm under the assumption that anyone who claims the Nintendo Wii is bad wasn't a loyal fan to begin with. :P

There are tons of "core gamer" games there, and any "core gamer" would see that since they wouldn't rely on commercials to tell them what's good.

I personally don't see what everyone's problem is with the Wii U though. You play it the same way you do other consoles, but it has an added screen that could be good for something. It's an improvement over what is currently available (as long as it's not too heavy).

tomarlyn

It has nothing to do with Nintendo not being your favorite.

Up until this gen Nintendo was my favorite each generation, but I prefer my PC by light years over any console nowadays.

The point is that the Wii isn't bad. It's not even close to bad, and if Gamespot is anything to go by it has more high scoring exclusives than either the 360 or PS3. I just can't see anyone who was a fan of Nintendo before this gen hate on the Wii given that it offers a ton of games similar to what would have been found in earlier generations.

And as I already mentioned I don't know why people are hating on the Wii U :P

I have 0 problem with Nintendo. Super Mario Galaxy 1 and 2, Zelda, And Pokemon (Yes, I still play it as an adult, Deal with it) Nintendo is fine, everybody just relax. Do I like the Wii, no. But not because it's made by Nintendo, I just dislike Motion Gaming in general. The only problem with Nintendo is that they havn't released a good IP In A LONG Time, but I guess The same could be said for Xbox 360. (PS3 Came out with the IP Heavy Rain, and that alone makes them great at publishing IPS :) )

Only home console system i don't own is a Wii.

Really primarily because i got more then enough games to keep me happy and entertained on my PS3 and what can play currently on my Laptop. Top that off that i have a strong interest in the Vita.

Nothing wrong with the Wii per say, but it's really only it's first party and one handful of third party games.

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"][QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"]

I'm under the assumption that anyone who claims the Nintendo Wii is bad wasn't a loyal fan to begin with. :P

There are tons of "core gamer" games there, and any "core gamer" would see that since they wouldn't rely on commercials to tell them what's good.

I personally don't see what everyone's problem is with the Wii U though. You play it the same way you do other consoles, but it has an added screen that could be good for something. It's an improvement over what is currently available (as long as it's not too heavy).

Ly_the_Fairy

It has nothing to do with Nintendo not being your favorite.

Up until this gen Nintendo was my favorite each generation, but I prefer my PC by light years over any console nowadays.

The point is that the Wii isn't bad. It's not even close to bad, and if Gamespot is anything to go by it has more high scoring exclusives than either the 360 or PS3. I just can't see anyone who was a fan of Nintendo before this gen hate on the Wii given that it offers a ton of games similar to what would have been found in earlier generations.

And as I already mentioned I don't know why people are hating on the Wii U :P

Maybe, maybe not.

I liked the Wii and don't regret purchasing it at all, I got alot of entertainment from it over the past years, but that being said there was clearly a big focus on the casual audience. Nintendo said they would focus more on the core audience, whether or not they will will have to be determined when the system comes out. I'm going to let the games that get released on the Wii-U do the speaking and not the controller design, and while I was very disappointed with NoA's decision of the 3 JRPG's, that was mostly the stupidity of NoA, not as much to do with the actual developers or Nintendo of Japan.

The only people complaining about Nintendo are Sony fanboys, honestly.

Zophar87

No. I'm complaining, the Wii-U looks terrible. And I've got a gaming PC, Xbox 360 and PS3.

"No unified online service" is the real buzzkill with the Wii U.

And we all know about the Wii.

And the Gamecube was OK, but was lacking in the software department.

Seems like no matter what nintendo does people hate on them. They are becoming the next apple if you ask me. Nintendo has shown they are going back to the core gamers yet all the pretendos out there say they are fans then scream and cry how its a "gimmick". Anything different from Nintendo is called that word. If the core gamers had its way gaming would never change. We need people who can bring gaming forward!

dontshackzmii

I don't think Nintendo has changed, it's my opinionits the former fans or gamers.(honest ones anyway)

[QUOTE="Vari3ty"]Sorry, I don't view a console with a controller that is a giant tablet as "core". Come back when Nintendo doesn't rely on gimmicks to sell their hardware.WreckEm711

Sorry, I don't view a gamer who has to try and label themselves as though they belong to some "special" group a "core" gamer :lol:

And I don't see how criticizing me is in anyway contributing to this discussion. The term "core"applies to anyone in this forum, I wasn't in anyway trying to be a "pretendo" (as the TC says) or trying to be special in anyway.I was pointing out what the Wii U is, thus far anyway, an obvious attempt to attract some more attention while not really doing anything better than a traditional controller.Nintendo might be innovating, but I have yet to see anything that actually improves the gameplay experience. Did the Wii's motion controls improve gameplay? Not really, for the most part they were awkward and clunky in anything other than party games. And now the Wii U looks to be the same way. Besides the fact that Nintendo hasn't come up with any new IPs of late, and I don't think there really is much to discuss here.

[QUOTE="VensInferno"]

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

Nintendo makes the best hardware and software. Enjoy buying 3 xbox 720s and having to get your ps4 fixed.

dontshackzmii

why are people crying over these games so much? Its not like they are even going to buy them. Wii u and 3ds is where nintendo is going core. Not talking about wii!

While i agree that alot of people are giving Nintendo a hard time with the WiiU for no other reason than to complain about a machine they never intend to buy. Alot of people care about those games and i for one will be buying them.

I love Nintendo consoles, i grew up with Nintendo consoles, but dont try and push the localization issue under the carpet just because you like Nintendo. There's plenty of people who want those 3 games, and plenty of them (in the states) have every right to complain about not getting them.

Sorry, I don't view a console with a controller that is a giant tablet as "core". Come back when Nintendo doesn't rely on gimmicks to sell their hardware.Vari3ty

Sorry, I don't view "core" or gimmick" ... I just see games, maybe you should too.

this is SW why should they get a free pass?

[QUOTE="Zophar87"]

The only people complaining about Nintendo are Sony fanboys, honestly.

eboyishere

cant tell if serious

I don't see anyone else constantly belittling Nintendo, their products, or their fans.

[QUOTE="Vari3ty"]Sorry, I don't view a console with a controller that is a giant tablet as "core". Come back when Nintendo doesn't rely on gimmicks to sell their hardware.Zophar87

Sorry, I don't view "core" or gimmick" ... I just see games, maybe you should too.

But games have to be controlled, and if the new method used to control them doesn't improve anything over current controllers, why shouldn't I call it a gimmick?

[QUOTE="Zophar87"]

[QUOTE="Vari3ty"]Sorry, I don't view a console with a controller that is a giant tablet as "core". Come back when Nintendo doesn't rely on gimmicks to sell their hardware.Vari3ty

Sorry, I don't view "core" or gimmick" ... I just see games, maybe you should too.

But games have to be controlled, and if the new method used to control them doesn't improve anything over current controllers, why shouldn't I call it a gimmick?

I missed the part where I said you can't call things a gimmick, and I'm sorry if I implied that. I do see where you're coming from when it comes to the Wii U's controller. I too am skeptical, but I think Nintendo has the resources and power to make it work.

Then again, I dislike judging hardware before I even get hands-on time with it. When it comes to next-gen systems, especially since gaming is so mainstream now, it's difficult to say how exactly this controller will effect the industry, if at all.

[QUOTE="Vari3ty"]

[QUOTE="Zophar87"]

Sorry, I don't view "core" or gimmick" ... I just see games, maybe you should too.

Zophar87

But games have to be controlled, and if the new method used to control them doesn't improve anything over current controllers, why shouldn't I call it a gimmick?

I missed the part where I said you can't call things a gimmick, and I'm sorry if I implied that. I do see where you're coming from when it comes to the Wii U's controller. I too am skeptical, but I think Nintendo has the resources and power to make it work.

Then again, I dislike judging hardware before I even get hands-on time with it. When it comes to next-gen systems, especially since gaming is so mainstream now, it's difficult to say how exactly this controller will effect the industry, if at all.

[QUOTE="Vari3ty"]

[QUOTE="Zophar87"]

Sorry, I don't view "core" or gimmick" ... I just see games, maybe you should too.

Zophar87

But games have to be controlled, and if the new method used to control them doesn't improve anything over current controllers, why shouldn't I call it a gimmick?

I missed the part where I said you can't call things a gimmick, and I'm sorry if I implied that. I do see where you're coming from when it comes to the Wii U's controller. I too am skeptical, but I think Nintendo has the resources and power to make it work.

Then again, I dislike judging hardware before I even get hands-on time with it. When it comes to next-gen systems, especially since gaming is so mainstream now, it's difficult to say how exactly this controller will effect the industry, if at all.

I admit I may be prematurely judging the Wii U. And who knows, maybe I'll end up liking it more than Sony or Microsoft's next gen offerings. But for the time being, I remain skeptical. Sorry if I seemed overly-aggressive, I got a little caught up in the discussion.

[QUOTE="Zophar87"]

[QUOTE="Vari3ty"]

But games have to be controlled, and if the new method used to control them doesn't improve anything over current controllers, why shouldn't I call it a gimmick?

Vari3ty

I missed the part where I said you can't call things a gimmick, and I'm sorry if I implied that. I do see where you're coming from when it comes to the Wii U's controller. I too am skeptical, but I think Nintendo has the resources and power to make it work.

Then again, I dislike judging hardware before I even get hands-on time with it. When it comes to next-gen systems, especially since gaming is so mainstream now, it's difficult to say how exactly this controller will effect the industry, if at all.

I admit I may be prematurely judging the Wii U. And who knows, maybe I'll end up liking it more than Sony or Microsoft's next gen offerings. But for the time being, I remain skeptical. Sorry if I seemed overly-aggressive, I got a little caught up in the discussion.

Eh? You have nothing to apologize for.. Nintendo fans are quick to get on their knees for the company they worship, and most of them will openly admit to it. Thing is, when it comes to next generation console hardware, I immediately look at Nintendo's first because they always have the most interesting things going for them.

I'll admit that the Wii has it's faults, but I don't think what it carried under it's hood was the issue. The Wii definitely suffered from lack of third party support, and I'll be the first to admit that. However, the Wii was a fantastic console and probably the most overlooked by critics and consumers alike.

[QUOTE="Zophar87"]

[QUOTE="Vari3ty"]

But games have to be controlled, and if the new method used to control them doesn't improve anything over current controllers, why shouldn't I call it a gimmick?

realguitarhero5

I missed the part where I said you can't call things a gimmick, and I'm sorry if I implied that. I do see where you're coming from when it comes to the Wii U's controller. I too am skeptical, but I think Nintendo has the resources and power to make it work.

Then again, I dislike judging hardware before I even get hands-on time with it. When it comes to next-gen systems, especially since gaming is so mainstream now, it's difficult to say how exactly this controller will effect the industry, if at all.

Yes, I've been saying this since it's unveiling. The touchscreen can be used for core gameplay, but it would definitely have to be done right.

Seems like no matter what nintendo does people hate on them. They are becoming the next apple if you ask me. Nintendo has shown they are going back to the core gamers yet all the pretendos out there say they are fans then scream and cry how its a "gimmick". Anything different from Nintendo is called that word. If the core gamers had its way gaming would never change. We need people who can bring gaming forward!

dontshackzmii

Nintendo is pure win.

You bashing windows 7. Not so much dude.

[QUOTE="eboyishere"]

this is SW why should they get a free pass?

[QUOTE="Zophar87"]

The only people complaining about Nintendo are Sony fanboys, honestly.

Zophar87

cant tell if serious

I don't see anyone else constantly belittling Nintendo, their products, or their fans.

are you trying to say that ninty is only critized by sony fans?really?

[QUOTE="Zophar87"]

[QUOTE="eboyishere"]

cant tell if serious

eboyishere

I don't see anyone else constantly belittling Nintendo, their products, or their fans.

are you trying to say that ninty is only critized by sony fans?really?

No, I know they're not.. I'm saying that's what I see on here. The only people who care about how Nintendo is doing are people who hate Nintendo.

Ironic.

[QUOTE="eboyishere"]

[QUOTE="Zophar87"]

I don't see anyone else constantly belittling Nintendo, their products, or their fans.

Zophar87

are you trying to say that ninty is only critized by sony fans?really?

No, I know they're not.. I'm saying that's what I see on here. The only people who care about how Nintendo is doing are people who hate Nintendo.

Ironic.

you could say the same for each system, there are guys on here that only post bad stuff about sony or only bad stuff about 360. all part of the "game" here tho