Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition vs Killzone Shadow Fall

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#1 MrXboxOne
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What do you think has better graphics? I would say that Tomb Raider looks better. The surrounding are incredible and character models are even. But given the elements in Tomb Raider I have to give that game the edge in graphics. And obviously in gameplay. It's a gorgeous looking game.

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#3 millerlight89
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Lol, either way TR on PS4 and KZ are better than TR on Xbone.

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The latest update for TR on the PC makes the Definitive Edition pointless.

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#6 millerlight89
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@clyde46 said:

The latest update for TR on the PC makes the Definitive Edition pointless.

Not for people who don't have high end PCs, like the majority of gamers.

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#8  Edited By gpuking
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KZS still bitch slaps Lara 24/7, but I would say Tomb Raider on PS4 does the same to Ryse tho.

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#9 lostrib
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@gpuking: yeah, but everyone knows your opinion is worthless

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@lostrib: boom town

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@lostrib said:

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#12  Edited By RealJaysonguy
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I can't believe this many people are posing arguments over the remake of a last-gen game that came out a year ago.

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#13 inggrish
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Killzone from what iv seen. Tomb Raider looks nice an all, but i think the lighting in killzone pulls out ahead

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@lostrib said:

@gpuking: yeah, but everyone knows your opinion is worthless

So is yours Grumpy smurf..

@mrxboxone said:

What do you think has better graphics? I would say that Tomb Raider looks better. The surrounding are incredible and character models are even. But given the elements in Tomb Raider I have to give that game the edge in graphics. And obviously in gameplay. It's a gorgeous looking game.

I am sure you do you are a lemming...lol

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#15 HaloinventedFPS
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Killzone by far

Tomb Raider isn't even close to beating Crysis 1

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#16  Edited By Opus_Rea-333
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Never heard of Killzone gameplay tobe honest it is any good?

Last time i heard about it people seemed offended by how bulky and dull the earlier Killzone were.

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#17 KillzoneSnake
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lol killzone kills tomb raider. And KZ SF is not pushing PS4 to the max, GG said PS4 can do A LOT more...

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#18 megaspiderweb09
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Killzone looks way better

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@Opus_Rea-333 said:

Never heard of Killzone gameplay tobe honest it is any good?

Last time i heard about it people seemed offended by how bulky and dull the earlier Killzone were.

It's not too bad. The gunplay is great, guns feel good to fire. AI is generally ok, but the game does lack soul, and story is not interesting.

I could complete it with no issues, I did'nt lose motivation to complete it, but I don't think I will be replaying it anytime soon.

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#20  Edited By ronvalencia
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@HaloinventedFPS said:

Killzone by far

Tomb Raider isn't even close to beating Crysis 1

On graphics, I prefer Tomb Raider 2013 PC over plain vanilla Crysis1 PC.

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#21  Edited By ronvalencia
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@_Matt_ said:

Killzone from what iv seen. Tomb Raider looks nice an all, but i think the lighting in killzone pulls out ahead

http://tombraider.tumblr.com/post/46469141391/gdc-week-casting-a-new-light-on-a-familiar-face

Like Killzone 2/3, TR2013 also has deferred rendering for lights(DRL) i.e. TR2013's tech is just good.

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#22 inggrish
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@ronvalencia said:

@_Matt_ said:

Killzone from what iv seen. Tomb Raider looks nice an all, but i think the lighting in killzone pulls out ahead

http://tombraider.tumblr.com/post/46469141391/gdc-week-casting-a-new-light-on-a-familiar-face

Like Killzone 2/3, TR2013 also has deferred rendering for lights(DRL) i.e. TR2013's tech is just good.

Oh don't get me wrong, the lighting effects in TR'13 are sweet, I just feel they are superior in Killzone.

That said, I currently have TR:DE downloading on my PS4, so I will directly compare the games myself, it has been a few months since I completed TR'13 on pc.

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#23 ronvalencia
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@_Matt_ said:

@ronvalencia said:

@_Matt_ said:

Killzone from what iv seen. Tomb Raider looks nice an all, but i think the lighting in killzone pulls out ahead

http://tombraider.tumblr.com/post/46469141391/gdc-week-casting-a-new-light-on-a-familiar-face

Like Killzone 2/3, TR2013 also has deferred rendering for lights(DRL) i.e. TR2013's tech is just good.

Oh don't get me wrong, the lighting effects in TR'13 are sweet, I just feel they are superior in Killzone.

That said, I currently have TR:DE downloading on my PS4, so I will directly compare the games myself, it has been a few months since I completed TR'13 on pc.

TR'13 PC has received new updates.

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Tomb Raider

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#25  Edited By inggrish
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@ronvalencia said:

@_Matt_ said:

@ronvalencia said:

@_Matt_ said:

Killzone from what iv seen. Tomb Raider looks nice an all, but i think the lighting in killzone pulls out ahead

http://tombraider.tumblr.com/post/46469141391/gdc-week-casting-a-new-light-on-a-familiar-face

Like Killzone 2/3, TR2013 also has deferred rendering for lights(DRL) i.e. TR2013's tech is just good.

Oh don't get me wrong, the lighting effects in TR'13 are sweet, I just feel they are superior in Killzone.

That said, I currently have TR:DE downloading on my PS4, so I will directly compare the games myself, it has been a few months since I completed TR'13 on pc.

TR'13 PC has received new updates.

Yeah I heard about that, but alas, I wanted to try it out on PS4.

I might take some direct share captures from both TR:DE and Killzone and post them here if I can be bothered. I may just post thoughts though.

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#26 Telekill
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As I have both games... I suppose I can give an educated opinion in comparison to those that haven't played them.

Killzone still beats TR DE in the graphics department. That said, it was that developer's first attempt on the new systems and if I remember, it wasn't even CD that "ported" TR. I can see Tomb Raider's sequel beating Killzone in the graphics department without any debate.

TR DE still looks stunning though. The arguments on which games look better are becoming a bit stupid as the differences are becoming marginal at best. At least on my 720p TV anyway.

Now... which game is better in my opinion? Tomb Raider, hands down.

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#27 MrXboxOne
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@Telekill said:

As I have both games... I suppose I can give an educated opinion in comparison to those that haven't played them.

Killzone still beats TR DE in the graphics department. That said, it was that developer's first attempt on the new systems and if I remember, it wasn't even CD that "ported" TR. I can see Tomb Raider's sequel beating Killzone in the graphics department without any debate.

TR DE still looks stunning though. The arguments on which games look better are becoming a bit stupid as the differences are becoming marginal at best. At least on my 720p TV anyway.

Now... which game is better in my opinion? Tomb Raider, hands down.

Beating Killzone in graphics isn't hard to do.

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@tormentos said:

@lostrib said:

@gpuking: yeah, but everyone knows your opinion is worthless

So is yours Grumpy smurf..

@mrxboxone said:

What do you think has better graphics? I would say that Tomb Raider looks better. The surrounding are incredible and character models are even. But given the elements in Tomb Raider I have to give that game the edge in graphics. And obviously in gameplay. It's a gorgeous looking game.

I am sure you do you are a lemming...lol

:( Now you hurt my feelings.

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#29 chikenfriedrice
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I'm playing KZ:SF and while the SP gameplay really sucks, the game looks very nice.

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#30 timbers_WSU
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Tomb Raider is the better game. KZ SF was the worst launch game on the PS4. That is all that matters.

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@timbers_WSU said:

Tomb Raider is the better game. KZ SF was the worst launch game on the PS4. That is all that matters.

Worse than Knack?

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#32 Telekill
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@mrxboxone: Sure, if you have a beast of a PC. Nothing on consoles beat it though. Not yet anyway. That will change in less than a year though. Possibly even Infamous in about 2 months.

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@realjaysonguy said:

I can't believe this many people are posing arguments over the remake of a last-gen game that came out a year ago.

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#34  Edited By timbers_WSU
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@lostrib said:

@timbers_WSU said:

Tomb Raider is the better game. KZ SF was the worst launch game on the PS4. That is all that matters.

Worse than Knack?

YEP! Knack is like old school Crash with a worse lead character and no comedy. I don't get the hate for the game. I think people are just scared of the challenge. Shadowfall is all graphics ruined by bloom.Multiplayer is decent but wt ith BF4 and COD on the system there is no reason for it to exist. And single player is awful after the forest level. The lame ass train & ladder level, The missions in space having to take those fuses in and out od doors and computers to get thru the level, the boring "You use the sniper rifle and protect me mission". WORST PART OF THE GAME? Has to be the objection marker. It is useless even though it has a dedicated button you can tap to lead the way. Terrible game.

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@lostrib said:

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@millerlight89 said:

@clyde46 said:

The latest update for TR on the PC makes the Definitive Edition pointless.

Not for people who don't have high end PCs, like the majority of gamers.

haha miller being desperate as always.

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#37  Edited By AM-Gamer
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I would give it to KZ, it seems to be pushing more polys and actually uses tesselation. But TR:DE does look amazing. Most people that are bad mouthing it haven't played it on the PS4. I'd say its arguably the second best looking game on the console, between that and BF.

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@AM-Gamer said:

I would give it to KZ, it seems to be pushing more polsys and actually uses tesselation. But TR:DE does look amazing. Most people that are bad mouthing it haven't played it on the PS4. I'd say its arguably the second best looking game on the console, between that and BF3.

BF3 on consoles is rather ugly

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Killzone doesn't look that great to me. It was way too inconsistent, some levels looked amazing but the later ones had low res textures all over the place. In bf4 (single player) you can go close to building structures and the textures don't look like bunch of pixels. It looks like high res artwork was pasted on.

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@mrxboxone said:

What do you think has better graphics? I would say that Tomb Raider looks better. The surrounding are incredible and character models are even. But given the elements in Tomb Raider I have to give that game the edge in graphics. And obviously in gameplay. It's a gorgeous looking game.

Ryse looks better then TR:DE. So it's pretty obvious that KZ:SF does as well. TR:DE looks like crap to me really. It looks better on the PC of course, but that's still not saying much.

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#42 Heil68
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KZ SF for sure. Beyond stunning and a true next gen title.

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@bodde1972 said:

thread should of ended right here.

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#45 PAL360
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Shadow Fall, obviously. Tomb Raider looks great, but it's a last gen port. The only games that look 'next gen', so far, are Shadow Fall, Ryse and Battlefield 4.

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@Slashkice said:
@clyde46 said:

The latest update for TR on the PC makes the Definitive Edition pointless.

The latest update...as in the one that makes Lara French? >.>

You say it likes its a bad thing :P

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@millerlight89 said:

@clyde46 said:

The latest update for TR on the PC makes the Definitive Edition pointless.

Not for people who don't have high end PCs, like the majority of gamers.

You mean the majority of pc users. The majority of pc gamers probably have something in the lines of 7850 and with a 7850 i can play TR close max ( AA aside ) with around 40-45fps average

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#48  Edited By BlessedChill
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Killzone looks better. It's sad the XboxOne can't run a last gen port in 60fps and has to settle with 30fps+dips while using 100% of its power.

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#49  Edited By jun_aka_pekto
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Comparison of two games with no (user) screenshots? This thread sucks. ;)

At least offer something to tease us.

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#50  Edited By Opus_Rea-333
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@lostrib said:

@tormentos said:

@lostrib said:

@gpuking: yeah, but everyone knows your opinion is worthless

So is yours Grumpy smurf..

@mrxboxone said:

What do you think has better graphics? I would say that Tomb Raider looks better. The surrounding are incredible and character models are even. But given the elements in Tomb Raider I have to give that game the edge in graphics. And obviously in gameplay. It's a gorgeous looking game.

I am sure you do you are a lemming...lol

:( Now you hurt my feelings.

Tormentos need to undestand we are all gamers not some type of animals. Myself i can enjoy PC Xone or PS4 gaming without internal conflicts.

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