Too bad the wii wont ever show its real power.

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#1 McdonaIdsGuy
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Because the company that could really push the wii hardware is dead,here is some footage of their engine and they said their wii engine does everything the ps3 did and some more.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1SpYsZPnQY
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#2 bc1391
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I saw that earlier, has been confirmed by F5?
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Because the company that could really push the wii hardware is dead,here is some footage of their engine and they said their wii engine does everything the ps3 did and some more.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1SpYsZPnQYMcdonaIdsGuy

Does the Wii have HD outputs?

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[QUOTE="McdonaIdsGuy"]Because the company that could really push the wii hardware is dead,here is some footage of their engine and they said their wii engine does everything the ps3 did and some more.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1SpYsZPnQYTyrant156

Does the Wii have HD outputs?



It can do 480p which is know to be HD.
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#5 Cherokee_Jack
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You'd think Nintendo would figure it out eventually.
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#6 Dibdibdobdobo
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Thats impressive. SW's doesnt care about potential though, they wanna see something on that engine.
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#7 brokenps2
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The Conduit still has a chance of testing the wii hardware.
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holy hell, you.
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#9 Nike_Air
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After seeing Metroid Prime 3 , I would say Retro might be the company that will push the Wii.

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#10 DennisHopperz
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The hidden power of the Wii. Locked potential. Waggle 3.0 with Nunchuku. 3.5-D and hardcore games. Just wait, one day the world will fear the Wii once it goes SSJ Wii in 2009.
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#11 Chutebox
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The potential power of the Wii has been shown since last gen. :D
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#12 St_muscat
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The potential power of the Wii has been shown since last gen. :DChutebox
LOL good call, but back topic I think Monster Hunter 3 will be the game to push the system.
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#13 Luigi_Vincetana
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 ... Ok, sorry, I just wanted an excuse to post this image; but seriously, even without F5 some 3rd party is bound to push the Wii to it's limits eventually.
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#14 fbigent34
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pfft a youtube link dosen't help yout cause... and even with your username... its kindof hard to believe you. wii just dosen't have the power to be simliar to ps3. or 360 for that matter.
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#15 Javy03
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Because the company that could really push the wii hardware is dead,here is some footage of their engine and they said their wii engine does everything the ps3 did and some more.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1SpYsZPnQYMcdonaIdsGuy
For Pete's sake its freaking Factor 5. They were good but they are far from Deving God's. They had an exclusive game on a very powerful system and in no way pushed the engine. It was an ok looking game but many devs have pushed the PS3 much further and can do the same for the Wii. There are PLENTY of other devs out there that can push the Wii to its limits if they want to, but when this system sells millions of copies of Rayman Raving Rabbits and Carnival games, why bother.
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I'm sure their engine will be saved, bought, whatever..
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#17 ActicEdge
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Its sad to see factor 5 go however they made a poor desicion about handling this gen. Even so, many devs can push the wii if they put the effort in but your results really aren't ging to be much better than last gen.

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#18 MacaroniMoses
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Too bad the Wii doesn't have real power to show...
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#19 AppleBlade
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Whatever Retro is working on will impress. I mean Metroid Prime 3 was a first generation Wii game and to this it remains the best looking Wii game. Now they're working on a completely new project from the ground up. I expect it to drop people's jaws when they see it.
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#20 mayforcebeyou
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The wii can't do that.
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#21 BoloTheGreat
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Pfffft, same BS as the conduit devs were spouting "as good as a 360 game" give me a break. ill believe it when i see it on shelves running like that.
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#22 PEELEDbanana
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480p isn't officially HD, it is actually EDTV (extended definition TV).

Back on topic: I dont think we will see the Wii get pushed to its limits at all. The core audiance could careless about all that. As long as they can wave there hands around like fools, and win, they are more than content. Retro made the Metroid Prime series, and those look pretty damn good.

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The wii can't do that.mayforcebeyou
They had it running on the Wii also Factor 5 knows the Wii hardware they designed the GCN with Nintendo and the Wii's hardware is based on the architechture of the GCN's hardware.

Edit* If your the same Mcdonaldsguy from 2-3 years ago then it is a shock because I never thought I would see you making a thread about the Wii that isn't bashing because you always hated Nintendo (If this is the same person)

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#24 fabz_95
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[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

After seeing Metroid Prime 3 , I would say Retro might be the company that will push the Wii.

Metroid Prime 3 was stunning but it depends. They could push the wii but I think they'll have to make a game other than a Metroid game to push the wii completely as although Metroid Prime 3 is beautiful, I don't know how they could improve graphics wise from there.
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#25 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

After seeing Metroid Prime 3 , I would say Retro might be the company that will push the Wii.

fabz_95

Metroid Prime 3 was stunning but it depends. They could push the wii but I think they'll have to make a game other than a Metroid game to push the wii completely as although Metroid Prime 3 is beautiful, I don't know how they could improve graphics wise from there.

Metroid prime 3 doesn't look that good. Atleast from a technical point, gorgeous art style but thats all really. Retro could push it way further if they wanted too.

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#26 mayforcebeyou
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[QUOTE="mayforcebeyou"]The wii can't do that.Nintendo_Ownes7

They had it running on the Wii also Factor 5 knows the Wii hardware they designed the GCN with Nintendo and the Wii's hardware is based on the architechture of the GCN's hardware.

Edit* If your the same Mcdonaldsguy from 2-3 years ago then it is a shock because I never thought I would see you making a thread about the Wii that isn't bashing because you always hated Nintendo (If this is the same person)

k im not the same person but i don't think they can make Wii games good as the tech demo
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[QUOTE="Tyrant156"]

[QUOTE="McdonaIdsGuy"]Because the company that could really push the wii hardware is dead,here is some footage of their engine and they said their wii engine does everything the ps3 did and some more.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1SpYsZPnQYMcdonaIdsGuy

Does the Wii have HD outputs?



It can do 480p which is know to be HD.

no its progressive scan, basicly instead of drawing odd number lines then even(interlaced), it draws them all, but it is not hd... HD is the resolution 720i/p are both hd, and 1080i/p same deal
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#28 Rigga911
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Wii's power > 360 and PS3
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#29 manicfoot
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Maybe Nintendo or a third party will hire the guys who really know the hardware. What else are they gonna do? Busk?
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#30 Nintendo_Ownes7
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[QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"]

[QUOTE="mayforcebeyou"]The wii can't do that.mayforcebeyou

They had it running on the Wii also Factor 5 knows the Wii hardware they designed the GCN with Nintendo and the Wii's hardware is based on the architechture of the GCN's hardware.

Edit* If your the same Mcdonaldsguy from 2-3 years ago then it is a shock because I never thought I would see you making a thread about the Wii that isn't bashing because you always hated Nintendo (If this is the same person)

k im not the same person but i don't think they can make Wii games good as the tech demo

That edit was directed at the TC since his name is McdonaldsGUY. I think it might not look as good as that but even if it is close it would look good developers still haven't surpassed on the Wii what Factor 5 did with Rougue Squadron 3 on the GCN. (Well some Nintendo games look better then Rougue Squadron 3 but no third party wii games look better than that GCN game.
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[QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"]

[QUOTE="mayforcebeyou"]The wii can't do that.mayforcebeyou

They had it running on the Wii also Factor 5 knows the Wii hardware they designed the GCN with Nintendo and the Wii's hardware is based on the architechture of the GCN's hardware.

Edit* If your the same Mcdonaldsguy from 2-3 years ago then it is a shock because I never thought I would see you making a thread about the Wii that isn't bashing because you always hated Nintendo (If this is the same person)

k im not the same person but i don't think they can make Wii games good as the tech demo

Not likely, did you see how much was going on in that demo, They were probly using the entire system to do that, start adding enemies, people, w/e else it needs to be a game, and they'll have to dumb it down.
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#32 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="mayforcebeyou"][QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"]They had it running on the Wii also Factor 5 knows the Wii hardware they designed the GCN with Nintendo and the Wii's hardware is based on the architechture of the GCN's hardware.

Edit* If your the same Mcdonaldsguy from 2-3 years ago then it is a shock because I never thought I would see you making a thread about the Wii that isn't bashing because you always hated Nintendo (If this is the same person)

savagetwinkie

k im not the same person but i don't think they can make Wii games good as the tech demo

Not likely, did you see how much was going on in that demo, They were probly using the entire system to do that, start adding enemies, people, w/e else it needs to be a game, and they'll have to dumb it down.

That engine showed us nothing. What could you have possibly of gauged from that. And using the entire system, thats a joke right? Have you seen what factor 5 did with the Gamecube? Also it makes no sense to show us a 8 sec tech demo that uses all the systems power when people would expect similar things ingame.

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#33 Al3x_n90
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Maybe the'll port gears2 on the wii some day...

Anyway the wii can do ps3/360 grahics...sounds really strange since it has a like what? 64mb grapics card?

Dough i'm surprised consoles cand do KZ2/uncharted2/gears2 graphics at 30fps with their hardware.....devs deserve applause i guess.Some oter devs, like crytek, don't even bother with consoles, they go PC all the way :P

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#34 kaangonultas
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what real power? There are ps2 games that put all wii games to shame.
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#35 tocool340
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? Your screen name looks strangely familiar. Like one of the notorious fanboys of the past. But probably just my imagination..... Yeah Nintendo is stupid for not buying a company thats been pumping good games for the previous system...
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The wii is almost = in power to the original xbox. It can still be pushed (as right now alot of ps2 games look better) but it will never match real current gen consoles
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#37 Hewkii
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but it will never match real current gen consolesPrinceofSarcasm
I had no idea the Wii was ethereal.
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#38 Mckenna1845
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i doubt they could get ps3 / 360 graphics out of the wii, that demo was impressive, but i doubt the ps3 version could be directly ported to the wii. The wii definitely hasn't peaked though, it will look better than the original xbox, but not 360 / ps3
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[QUOTE="Tyrant156"]

[QUOTE="McdonaIdsGuy"]Because the company that could really push the wii hardware is dead,here is some footage of their engine and they said their wii engine does everything the ps3 did and some more.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1SpYsZPnQYMcdonaIdsGuy

Does the Wii have HD outputs?



It can do 480p which is know to be HD.

480p is NOT hd, HD has to be a minimum of 720p
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#40 mmirza23
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[QUOTE="McdonaIdsGuy"][QUOTE="Tyrant156"]

Does the Wii have HD outputs?

savagetwinkie



It can do 480p which is know to be HD.

no its progressive scan, basicly instead of drawing odd number lines then even(interlaced), it draws them all, but it is not hd... HD is the resolution 720i/p are both hd, and 1080i/p same deal

There is no 720i, 480i/1080i exist and 480p/720p/1080p 480i/p=576i/p in PAL region

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#41 AppleBlade
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what real power? There are ps2 games that put all wii games to shame.kaangonultas
There is not one PS2 game that puts Metroid Prime 3 or Super Mario Galaxy to shame. None! Even the PS2's cream of the crop (God of War II, Black, etc.) can only come close but not surpass and definitely not put to shame those games.
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#42 iam2green
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interesting. i think towards the end of the life cicle u will see great games, thats if games become looking more real on the wii unlike games like wii sports and stuff with the miis.
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yep ninty ruins a lot of things
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#44 II-FBIsniper-II
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It can do 480p which is know to be HD.McdonaIdsGuy
Err, no it isn't.
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#45 TehReaper
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...this is just from an 8 second youtube video claiming that its the lair engine on a wii? If it really could pull off such awesome graphics, nintendo wouldn't be making a profit off of the hardware. (not to say that no wii games look good..but as good as 360/ps3? come on now..)
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[QUOTE="kaangonultas"]what real power? There are ps2 games that put all wii games to shame.AppleBlade
There is not one PS2 game that puts Metroid Prime 3 or Super Mario Galaxy to shame. None! Even the PS2's cream of the crop (God of War II, Black, etc.) can only come close but not surpass and definitely not put to shame those games.

Ive played mp3 and i dont think its that impressive. Silent hill 3 , gow2 and mgs3 look better.
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#47 GinoNYC
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Too bad the Wii doesn't have real power to show...MacaroniMoses


The thing is, the XBox still has a better GPU. And even if somehow the Wii could produce better graphics than the XBox, the devs won't bother. No Wii game looks as good as games like Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory; this is because devs know the Wii casual audience has low standards for graphics, so their trashy games will still sell well even if they have terrible graphics. Devs pushed the XBox hardware in 2004 and 2005, and they even pushed PS2 with games like Shadow Of The Colossus, God Of War, and FF XII. But no dev will bother pushing the Wii hardware to those levels, because I like I said, it would be a waste of time and money since they can put out games with crappy graphics and they'll sell anyway. So that's why, imo, Wii games don't even meet up to 2005 graphics standards.

I mean...



Eww..
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The wii is almost = in power to the original xbox. It can still be pushed (as right now alot of ps2 games look better) but it will never match real current gen consolesPrinceofSarcasm
The Gamecube was on part with Xbox. It provided a faster CPU whereas the Xbox had a more powerful GPU and supported DirectX.

Now, some of the best looking games were on the Gamecube, Resident Evil 4 is a definite example.

The Wii is touted to be twice as powerful as the Gamecube, we've yet to really see it. Whereas Metroid Prime 3 pushes more particle effects, more detailed characters and environments, the game is artistacly beautiful. However, from a technical standpoint, its far from what the Wii could push.

Mario Galaxy is a lot more of what Wii owners should expect. A great physics engine, beautiful environments from both a technical and artistic standpoint.

My bet, is that the Wii Zelda, will show exactly how powerful the Wii is. By the time that game comes out, it will have been in development for 3 years (at least the engine).

But any dev could push the Wii, if they stopped trying to go for quick cash hogs instead.

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#49 foreverflame890
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The Wii can barely run super mario galaxy.
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#50 Malta_1980
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am sure the Wii has much more potential than what games have shown so far but i dont see games for Wii come close to what PS3 & 360 can offer in terms of visuals....