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#1 alfy13
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now we all seen the e3 footage which looked pretty bad, especially a game using the UT engine.  But since then SK has been working really hard since its debut which was pretty embarrsing.  But now that we all have seen what SK has been up due to videos you can find at IGN. all i can say is i was not impressed at all. the char animation looked to stiff and robotic.  and the game play was not something i would be like jumping for joy. to me it looked like they tried to hard to be a DMC and  Diablo type game but fell short.  IMO btw

so from looking at the game footage will too human be a AAA game?  personally i think it will make a 7-5-8.0

but we wont know until SK drops a demo for us to DL. until then Too Human is Too Flop in my book.

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#2 Deactivation
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AAA. Guranteed.
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#3 osirisomeomi
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Looks okay, i'd guess 8.0.  Well I guess on gamespot 8.6, but it seems to be a less awesome version of hellgate, diablo and dmc4.  Sure it'll be fun to play though.
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now we all seen the e3 footage which looked pretty bad, especially a game using the UT engine. But since then SK has been working really hard since its debut which was pretty embarrsing. But now that we all have seen what SK has been up due to videos you can find at IGN. all i can say is i was not impressed at all. the char animation looked to stiff and robotic. and the game play was not something i would be like jumping for joy. to me it looked like they tried to hard to be a DMC and Diablo type game but fell short. IMO btw

so from looking at the game footage will too human be a AAA game? personally i think it will make a 7-5-8.0

but we wont know until SK drops a demo for us to DL. until then Too Human is Too Flop in my book.

alfy13

We havnt really seen much of the game except a little bit of gameplay so idk, but it does have 4 player co-op which is pretty cool for the type of game it is. 

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AAA. Guranteed.Deactivation

 

Lmao. :lol: 

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#6 BioShockOwnz
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It will be one of the best games this gen and score a AAA here on Gamespot.
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#7 TemplaerDude
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It's either going to be really really good or incredibly, horrifyingly bad. Too early to tell.
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#8 preceptor9990
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this game has not been hyped but i got a feeling it may make AAA
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#9 RevenMan
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4 player co-op lol thats nice. I must look into this game a little more, the co-op feture will be supported by xbox-live i presume?
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#10 Nerkcon
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E3 already started?!

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#11 donalbane
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Go play Eternal Darkness on the Gamecube, also made by Dennis Dyack and the Silicon Knights.  It was delayed, and poo-poo'd a lot for a number of development problems, and it was the best game on the console (in my mind) bar none. 

Sound familiar?

Too Human is going to kick ass, and Live is only going to sweeten the pot. 

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Go play Eternal Darkness on the Gamecube, also made by Dennis Dyack and the Silicon Knights.  It was delayed, and poo-poo'd a lot for a number of development problems, and it was the best game on the console (in my mind) bar none. 

Sound familiar?

Too Human is going to kick ass, and Live is only going to sweeten the pot. 

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They also were responsible for MGS: The Twin Snakes.

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#13 project343
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Transition animations are one of Silicon Knights' main development focuses, and you've honestly not seen enough of the gameplay to judge it as you have.
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#14 jg4xchamp
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I think it looks alot better than it did at E3. also that animation fits the story of the game. there suppose to loke somewhat robotic in nature. The gameplay looks fun to me, its a mix of dmc with diablo, i see nothing wrong with that. throw in a good story(silicon knights made eternal darkness, that game had a great story), some good voice acting to back up that story, the 4 player coop online, and rpg elements. Yeah i could see this game doing really well.

Its my sleeper pick of the year. I say it will sneak in a AAA here and gamerankings.
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4 player co-op lol thats nice. I must look into this game a little more, the co-op feture will be supported by xbox-live i presume?RevenMan

Yeah Im pretty sure you can play online co-op. 

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Another reason not to get a PS3

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#17 blackace
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This game has never been hyped to be "AAA" and I honestly don't expect it to get a "AAA". It might get a score between 8.0-8.5 if it's lucky, but no higher then that I'm thinking. How many people really care about Too Human anyways? I want to go home and play Forza 2 all night. :( Damn work.
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#18 kankthetank
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All I can say is, there are too many people clueless about what Too Human will be offering. The game is very promising and very ambitious. I suggest those who would like to know more to check out Too Human.net and browse through the info and forum: www.Toohuman.net

 

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Too human seems to be on the fast track to bringing online rpgs back in a big way.  Hellgate london and Too human seem to be melding Ninja Gaiden/DMC combat in a diablo type surrounding/gameplay.  I think both games are gonna turn out to be very good.  Also to the TC, Hellgate is just about the same direction as too human and its being made by the diablo team.
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#20 zeldafan00013
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This game has been in the works from the early days of the NIntendo Gamecube till now, how could this possibly mess it up.  It will ether be a AAA game or a complete flop.
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Too human seems to be on the fast track to bringing online rpgs back in a big way.  Hellgate london and Too human seem to be melding Ninja Gaiden/DMC combat in a diablo type surrounding/gameplay.  I think both games are gonna turn out to be very good.  Also to the TC, Hellgate is just about the same direction as too human and its being made by the diablo team.7thSIN
sorry but Hellgate accually looks really good . you can either play it in a 1st or 3rd person view. and its not trying to be a dmc game either. so please do not put Hell Gate in the same catagory as Too Human.
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#22 donalbane
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[QUOTE="donalbane"]

Go play Eternal Darkness on the Gamecube, also made by Dennis Dyack and the Silicon Knights.  It was delayed, and poo-poo'd a lot for a number of development problems, and it was the best game on the console (in my mind) bar none. 

Sound familiar?

Too Human is going to kick ass, and Live is only going to sweeten the pot. 

BioShockOwnz

They also were responsible for MGS: The Twin Snakes.

Yeah, which I just beat yesterday (replaying all mGS games at the moment) and yeah... more evidence that SK knows how to make killer games.   
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#24 akif22
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we're talking about the devs that made Eternal Darkness

they definately know how to make a good game

i doubt they'll release Too Human until its finished and plays well .. so I have faith that it'll be a good game

it might not live up to the initial immense hype but should still be AA-AAA 

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#25 donalbane
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we're talking about the devs that made Eternal Darkness

they definately know how to make a good game

i doubt they'll release Too Human until its finished and plays well .. so I have faith that it'll be a good game

it might not live up to the initial immense hype but should still be AA-AAA 

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[QUOTE="7thSIN"]Too human seems to be on the fast track to bringing online rpgs back in a big way.  Hellgate london and Too human seem to be melding Ninja Gaiden/DMC combat in a diablo type surrounding/gameplay.  I think both games are gonna turn out to be very good.  Also to the TC, Hellgate is just about the same direction as too human and its being made by the diablo team.alfy13
sorry but Hellgate accually looks really good . you can either play it in a 1st or 3rd person view. and its not trying to be a dmc game either. so please do not put Hell Gate in the same catagory as Too Human.

Sorry, I'll be more distinct... Too Human combat - DMC meld, Hellgate - UC2 meld.  My point was them both being alot more action based over older online rpgs.  Either way, most games in the genre have gotten stale and its a breath of fresh air seeing a twist on the genre.

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#27 project343
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sorry but Hellgate accually looks really good . you can either play it in a 1st or 3rd person view. and its not trying to be a dmc game either. so please do not put Hell Gate in the same catagory as Too Human. alfy13


And please don't suggest that one unreleased game is superior to another unreleased game. Kthxbye.
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Too Human looks to move outside the action genre box and give us an original experience.  They are going to redefine the genre with the massive amount of RPG elements and 4 player co op.  This game is going to be awesome. 

The only thing that looks like it may hurt the game are the analogue attack controls but if they bomb, this game is set to be a trilogy and chances are they'll perfect the controls next game.  Too Human is going to be the ****.

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#29 justforlotr2004
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[QUOTE="7thSIN"]Too human seems to be on the fast track to bringing online rpgs back in a big way. Hellgate london and Too human seem to be melding Ninja Gaiden/DMC combat in a diablo type surrounding/gameplay. I think both games are gonna turn out to be very good. Also to the TC, Hellgate is just about the same direction as too human and its being made by the diablo team.alfy13
sorry but Hellgate accually looks really good . you can either play it in a 1st or 3rd person view. and its not trying to be a dmc game either. so please do not put Hell Gate in the same catagory as Too Human.

Well same could be said for you because Too human isnt DMC nor is it Diablo as said by the creators its hard to explain the type of game it is.  Just because it looks like those games doesnt mean the core gameplay is anything like those.

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#30 7thSIN
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Its hard to peg these games, were just going by footage.
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#31 ironcreed
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It will be one of the best games this gen and score a AAA here on Gamespot. BioShockOwnz

I stand firmly with BioShockOwnz on this one. This has been Silicon Knights' baby for years, and now it is all coming into fruition. There has obviously been ALOT of creativity and thought implemented into such a long, and rather large project. And since Silicon Knights are time proven developers, I think we will be in for a masterpiece of a trilogy myself.

I have stated on numerous occasions that I think that this will end up being one of the top 5 games on the 360, and at least within the top 10. And I will stand by that statement until proven either right or wrong. Regardless though, this will no doubt be a HUGE game. Silicon Knights are just too talented, and they are going all out on trying to create what will be their masterpiece, and I have faith that they will deliver just that.

If you guys will remember, a little game called HALO also had a horrible first showing....but we all know how that turned out, do we not?;) The new Too Human material is amazing, and I bet it is only an inkling of what is yet to come. Alot of people are going to be suprised when this game comes out, and ends up being fantastic. 

 

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#32 themyth01
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 Judging gameplay without playing the game, wow, reaching new lows I see. This game could very well get AAA rating.
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#33 JiveT
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HALO actually had an awesome first showing that's why Microsoft bought the company but that was when it was being designed for computers. Anyway................I think the story for TOO HUMAN is interesting enough to make me want to purchase it. I love Norse mythology and I think the graphics look great. I'm not too pleased with the style of gameplay myself but it looks like I'll play through it just for the cutscenes like a MGS game. I don't know what people see in Hellgate London that impresses them. The graphics and gameplay look very BTDT.
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#34 ironcreed
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Too Human looks to move outside the action genre box and give us an original experience.  They are going to redefine the genre with the massive amount of RPG elements and 4 player co op.  This game is going to be awesome. 

The only thing that looks like it may hurt the game are the analogue attack controls but if they bomb, this game is set to be a trilogy and chances are they'll perfect the controls next game.  Too Human is going to be the ****.

lordseer

 

I don't know man, I think that having the guns on the triggers, and the sword on the right analog stick will be innovative as hell. You will seamlessly be able to use both in combat without having to switch back and forth on selection screens, or scrolling through weapon selection on the D-pad, ect. You see what I am saying?

The only real concern here would of course be the camera, but I am sure that it will be implemented smoothly with the gameplay. Silicon Knights would not let such a detail on such a huge project go unchecked or unresolved.

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#35 GunSmith1_basic
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Let's just see if SK can make a game without nintendo.  Nintendo did help them last gen, and nintendo is even a major shareholder in SK today.  We'll all have to see if they pull a Rare.  Until then, we should give SK their due.  Eternal Darkness was an amazing game.  The atmospherics were amazing (insanity effects worked beautifully), the game engine was superb (the aiming system was a dream and the magic system was logical and intuitive, which is very rare), and the plot was badass with great references to HP Lovecraft.  It was a game made with love
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#36 Gamer556
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Low AA flop
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#37 _en1gma_
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it's going to be a good one.  i can feel it.  :D
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It's either going to be really really good or incredibly, horrifyingly bad. Too early to tell.TemplaerDude

Agreed. It will either blow our minds or just be another awful game...

What we've seen so far looks really good, actually. It's certainly come a long way, and I'm excited to see how it plays out. 4-player Diablo-style Coop? OMG! 

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[QUOTE="lordseer"]

Too Human looks to move outside the action genre box and give us an original experience.  They are going to redefine the genre with the massive amount of RPG elements and 4 player co op.  This game is going to be awesome. 

The only thing that looks like it may hurt the game are the analogue attack controls but if they bomb, this game is set to be a trilogy and chances are they'll perfect the controls next game.  Too Human is going to be the ****.

ironcreed

 

I don't know man, I think that having the guns on the triggers, and the sword on the right analog stick will be innovative as hell. You will seamlessly be able to use both in combat without having to switch back and forth on selection screens, or scrolling through weapon selection on the D-pad, ect. You see what I am saying?

The only real concern here would of course be the camera, but I am sure that it will be implemented smoothly with the gameplay. Silicon Knights would not let such a detail on such a huge project go unchecked or unresolved.

I think that having the triggers control the guns is a great idea but I am still a bit skeptical about the right analogue stick controlling all melee attacks.  I think you could get more complex moves off if they mapped the melee attacks to the face buttons.  I just don't see how combos are going to work out with a single analogue stick.

I am hoping that I wrong though.  I am really anticipating this game.

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#40 ironcreed
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HALO actually had an awesome first showing that's why Microsoft bought the company but that was when it was being designed for computers. Anyway................I think the story for TOO HUMAN is interesting enough to make me want to purchase it. I love Norse mythology and I think the graphics look great. I'm not too pleased with the style of gameplay myself but it looks like I'll play through it just for the cutscenes like a MGS game. I don't know what people see in Hellgate London that impresses them. The graphics and gameplay look very BTDT.JiveT

 

Here is a great write up on the game, which also describes that Halo did indeed look clunky, and rather bad in it's early state. That is more or less what I meant in my above reference to Halo. In it's early stage of development showings, it did indeed look mediocre at best. Regardless, the rest of the Too Human info here is probably nothing that you do not already know, but it is a great little read even still.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/781/781085p1.html

 

 

 

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"Too Flop Hard?"

 Jesus, that isn't even creative.

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#42 alfy13
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"Too Flop Hard?"

 Jesus, that isn't even creative.

Bill_McBlumpkin
jesus, if i would of known that i was being entered into the Title of the Year award i would of come up with something better.
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#43 Bill_McBlumpkin
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[QUOTE="Bill_McBlumpkin"]

"Too Flop Hard?"

 Jesus, that isn't even creative.

alfy13

jesus, if i would of known that i was being entered into the Title of the Year award i would of come up with something better.

 

Look on the bright side, you can still enter for Worst Thread of The Year and take it in a landslide.

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#44 aliasfreak
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[QUOTE="alfy13"][QUOTE="Bill_McBlumpkin"]

"Too Flop Hard?"

 Jesus, that isn't even creative.

Bill_McBlumpkin

jesus, if i would of known that i was being entered into the Title of the Year award i would of come up with something better.

 

Look on the bright side, you can still enter for Worst Thread of The Year and take it in a landslide.

:lol:

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#45 -The-G-Man-
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I really think they just had a bad showing at E3.
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#46 alfy13
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[QUOTE="alfy13"][QUOTE="Bill_McBlumpkin"]

"Too Flop Hard?"

 Jesus, that isn't even creative.

Bill_McBlumpkin

jesus, if i would of known that i was being entered into the Title of the Year award i would of come up with something better.

 

Look on the bright side, you can still enter for Worst Thread of The Year and take it in a landslide.

thanks i feel so honored. in fact let me give you a middle fxxxxr salute to show  you my apperication :)
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#47 alfy13
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AAA. Guranteed.Deactivation
lmao
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IMO, Too Humans combat looked bad at E3 last year, since then alot of controversy has surrounded it. It could turn out to be amazing since everyone has pressured the developers about the combat. Graphics wise, it looks all GeOWish which is fine with me.
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[QUOTE="donalbane"]

Go play Eternal Darkness on the Gamecube, also made by Dennis Dyack and the Silicon Knights.  It was delayed, and poo-poo'd a lot for a number of development problems, and it was the best game on the console (in my mind) bar none. 

Sound familiar?

Too Human is going to kick ass, and Live is only going to sweeten the pot. 

BioShockOwnz

They also were responsible for MGS: The Twin Snakes.

exactly, they almost single handedly killed MGS, i bought that game and it was so bad i couldnt really finish it and traded it in as quick as i could. how they could screw up a game that was already done for them is beyond me, i liked the ps1 version 10x better.

eternal darkness had some cool concepts, i liked it but not worth playing more than once unless you wanted those dumb endings. i wish they made a part 2, maybe it wouldve been what the first one shouldve been. but yeah i havent really seen them make a really great game, especially an action game
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You know I heard that more money being put in this game than any other but after played Eternal Darkness it hard for me to put pledge.  But if you like sci fi action game then probably for you is something new and different hopefully and been develop so long remind me of prey or if duke nuke forever came.  microsoft bet on too human unsure about this