Too Human will be the biggest flop since Daikatana

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#1 Natural_Mystic
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When I first learned about Too Human I thought this game would be a blockbuster success. It was an ambitious title that would blend the fast paced action of Devil May Cry and GOW with the rich storytelling of an bioware RPG. This game had every thing going for it, an epic tale steeped ing Norse Mythology, brought to you by a promising studio. Sadly, I couldn't have been more wrong. To put it plainly, the game looks like *smurf*. The animation is horrendous the art direction is terrible, it looks like it was developed by few computer science dropouts in their parent's basement using the Quake 3 engine. Something went terribly wrong during the creation of the game and that's a same brcause it had so much potential.

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The peak of my interest in Too Human was back when it was a Playstation game.
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#3 d3thm0nkey
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who knows. Eternal Darkness was one of the best games of last gen. Same dev. But you could be right maybe they will botch it..
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Are you serious?

Besides the animation issues, I have no idea what you're talking about concerning the other problems. The scale is amazing, the art direction is good, and the game is incredibly detailed. And it actually does seem like DMC meets Diablo, with better storytelling. I'm especially impressed with how they're trying to create a very cohesive, single experience with the camera.

With the amount of time that is left in development (this is Silicon Knights, so it's theoretically infinite), I have absolutely no doubts about how this game will turn out. The question isn't whether it will be awesome, but how awesome it will wind up being.  

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"promising studio"  :lol:  thats a good joke and here is wy : the only one thing that they done was Legasy of Kain : Blood omen. Thx to that game it became one of the greates game series ever created and that is to thank Crystal Dynamiks that made the rest of the series of Legasy of Kain, but still the reviews for Blood omen where low. And know they takes this realy abitios projeckt that the fighting system is totaly wrong and was allready done. 
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"promising studio" :lol: thats a good joke and here is wy : the only one thing that they done was Legasy of Kain : Blood omen. Thx to that game it became one of the greates game series ever created and that is to thank Crystal Dynamiks that made the rest of the series of Legasy of Kain, but still the reviews for Blood omen where low. And know they takes this realy abitios projeckt that the fighting system is totaly wrong and was allready done. hailltoyou

Do Eternal Darkness and Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes ring any bells?

Eternal Darkness was one of a select few Gamecube AAA Exclusive titles.  

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"promising studio"  :lol:  thats a good joke and here is wy : the only one thing that they done was Legasy of Kain : Blood omen. Thx to that game it became one of the greates game series ever created and that is to thank Crystal Dynamiks that made the rest of the series of Legasy of Kain, but still the reviews for Blood omen where low. And know they takes this realy abitios projeckt that the fighting system is totaly wrong and was allready done. hailltoyou
uhh, they did Eternal darkness, scored 9.4. That makes them a promising studio in my books.
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#8 Acemaster27
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I just watched the bit about the game on Ign weekly, and i have to say that it is looking good. Its like gauntlet meets GoW.
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#9 MikeE21286
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Games that go as long as Too Human has w/o any info until now  scare me.  I mean it's like they disappear and then undergo drastic changes from what they were thought to have been lots of the time.
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Are you serious?

Besides the animation issues, I have no idea what you're talking about concerning the other problems. The scale is amazing, the art direction is good, and the game is incredibly detailed. And it actually does seem like DMC meets Diablo, with better storytelling. I'm especially impressed with how they're trying to create a very cohesive, single experience with the camera.

With the amount of time that is left in development (this is Silicon Knights, so it's theoretically infinite), I have absolutely no doubts about how this game will turn out. The question isn't whether it will be awesome, but how awesome it will wind up being.

sonicmj1
beauty is subjective but even the most hardcore Too Human fans have to admit that it isn't the best looking game on the 360, hell I think there are better looking games on the PS2.
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#11 billing
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4 Player Coop,

Diablo style drop,

That's enough for me.

We can now stop begging Blizzard for Diablo III 

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 Yea I think this will be another Resistance.
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[QUOTE="sonicmj1"]

Are you serious?

Besides the animation issues, I have no idea what you're talking about concerning the other problems. The scale is amazing, the art direction is good, and the game is incredibly detailed. And it actually does seem like DMC meets Diablo, with better storytelling. I'm especially impressed with how they're trying to create a very cohesive, single experience with the camera.

With the amount of time that is left in development (this is Silicon Knights, so it's theoretically infinite), I have absolutely no doubts about how this game will turn out. The question isn't whether it will be awesome, but how awesome it will wind up being.

Natural_Mystic
beauty is subjective but even the most hardcore Too Human fans have to admit that it isn't the best looking game on the 360, hell I think there are better looking games on the PS2.

Have you even looked at the new pictures? I'd say it probably is the best looking game on the 360. And this is the first time I've payed the game any attention.
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ewww

pic of Baldur

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#15 themyth01
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[QUOTE="sonicmj1"]

Are you serious?

Besides the animation issues, I have no idea what you're talking about concerning the other problems. The scale is amazing, the art direction is good, and the game is incredibly detailed. And it actually does seem like DMC meets Diablo, with better storytelling. I'm especially impressed with how they're trying to create a very cohesive, single experience with the camera.

With the amount of time that is left in development (this is Silicon Knights, so it's theoretically infinite), I have absolutely no doubts about how this game will turn out. The question isn't whether it will be awesome, but how awesome it will wind up being.

Natural_Mystic

beauty is subjective but even the most hardcore Too Human fans have to admit that it isn't the best looking game on the 360, hell I think there are better looking games on the PS2.

 I think it looks noticeably better than Lair, give Lair doesn't look so great but still good enough for 8 or 9 in graphics.

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[QUOTE="hailltoyou"]"promising studio"  :lol:  thats a good joke and here is wy : the only one thing that they done was Legasy of Kain : Blood omen. Thx to that game it became one of the greates game series ever created and that is to thank Crystal Dynamiks that made the rest of the series of Legasy of Kain, but still the reviews for Blood omen where low. And know they takes this realy abitios projeckt that the fighting system is totaly wrong and was allready done. pundog
uhh, they did Eternal darkness, scored 9.4. That makes them a promising studio in my books.

OK lets see how many good games they made link  only one : Eternal darkness, scored 9.4 , thats it. and do not get started with MGS they remade that game its not theyr original project and it scored lower then the PS version itgot 8.5 , MGS : TS got 8.2. One good game doesn make or prove anything , if Too Human will score high then they will be a good developer studio , now its like they got lucky with one game nothing more , nothing less.

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#17 joe_g_patton
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I really like the song "More Human Than Human" by White Zombie, so it pains me to agree that "Too Human" is currently on a dangerous path that will most likely lead it into the depths of floppage.

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4 Player Coop,

Diablo style drop,

That's enough for me.

We can now stop begging Blizzard for Diablo III

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Denis Dyack is starting to sound like a snake-oil salesman, he's promising all things to all people. From what I see this game doesn't look very impressive.
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[QUOTE="pundog"][QUOTE="hailltoyou"]"promising studio"  :lol:  thats a good joke and here is wy : the only one thing that they done was Legasy of Kain : Blood omen. Thx to that game it became one of the greates game series ever created and that is to thank Crystal Dynamiks that made the rest of the series of Legasy of Kain, but still the reviews for Blood omen where low. And know they takes this realy abitios projeckt that the fighting system is totaly wrong and was allready done. hailltoyou

uhh, they did Eternal darkness, scored 9.4. That makes them a promising studio in my books.

OK lets see how many good games they made link  only one : Eternal darkness, scored 9.4 , thats it. and do not get started with MGS they remade that game its not theyr original project and it scored lower then the PS version itgot 8.5 , MGS : TS got 8.2. One good game doesn make or prove anything , if Too Human will score high then they will be a good developer studio , now its like they got lucky with one game nothing more , nothing less.

Do you know anything about developing? With all the time and money invested, its impossible to get lucky, its the nature of the business. There is so much progamming and testing that you have to be good to make a game. And here's a sweet pic.
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[QUOTE="billing"]

4 Player Coop,

Diablo style drop,

That's enough for me.

We can now stop begging Blizzard for Diablo III

Natural_Mystic

Denis Dyack is starting to sound like a snake-oil salesman, he'sy promising all things to all people. From what I see this game doesn't look very impressive.

What he promises is not very hard to do,

It's just other Developers fail to come up with the idea.

I don't know why you think it's snake oil.

The only thing questionable is the gameplay,

and thats with all games that have yet to come out.

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http://www.gamespot.com/users/supermechakirby/video_player?id=IXw6wzrw5b4NvzPb

 

 

WATCH IT

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Eternal Darkness is probably one of the top 10 games to have come out in the past 5 years, I have a lot of faith in this title being very good.
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Too Human had promise when it was announced, it hit a bump in the road but it can bounce back and I have heard it has come a long way ince E3 05
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[QUOTE="hailltoyou"]

[QUOTE="pundog"][QUOTE="hailltoyou"]"promising studio"  :lol:  thats a good joke and here is wy : the only one thing that they done was Legasy of Kain : Blood omen. Thx to that game it became one of the greates game series ever created and that is to thank Crystal Dynamiks that made the rest of the series of Legasy of Kain, but still the reviews for Blood omen where low. And know they takes this realy abitios projeckt that the fighting system is totaly wrong and was allready done. pundog

uhh, they did Eternal darkness, scored 9.4. That makes them a promising studio in my books.

OK lets see how many good games they made link  only one : Eternal darkness, scored 9.4 , thats it. and do not get started with MGS they remade that game its not theyr original project and it scored lower then the PS version itgot 8.5 , MGS : TS got 8.2. One good game doesn make or prove anything , if Too Human will score high then they will be a good developer studio , now its like they got lucky with one game nothing more , nothing less.

Do you know anything about developing? With all the time and money invested, its impossible to get lucky, its the nature of the business. There is so much progamming and testing that you have to be good to make a game. And here's a sweet pic.

Thats Unreal Engine thats wy he looks so GOOD :P , but money and time can't produce tallent !   You shold know better that time in some cases is the enemy and money is getting wasted. And about that developing part I've read alot of stuff and believe me its a nightmare that you can't even imagine.

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Now that I actually know something about the game beyond a rushed, pushed-out-the-door less-than-stellar E3 showing... I think it could be interesting.  I love me some action RPGs.  Like many I really had this pegged as more of a God of War rip-off but it looks like its going more the route of typical ARPGs with XP, and random loot drops and cool stuff like that.  Combined with 4 player co-op on XBL, this could be hella fun with a few friends. 
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#26 billing
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With the amount of depth they put into this game,

I no longer blame them for taking soo long. 

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[QUOTE="pundog"][QUOTE="hailltoyou"]

[QUOTE="pundog"][QUOTE="hailltoyou"]"promising studio"  :lol:  thats a good joke and here is wy : the only one thing that they done was Legasy of Kain : Blood omen. Thx to that game it became one of the greates game series ever created and that is to thank Crystal Dynamiks that made the rest of the series of Legasy of Kain, but still the reviews for Blood omen where low. And know they takes this realy abitios projeckt that the fighting system is totaly wrong and was allready done. hailltoyou

uhh, they did Eternal darkness, scored 9.4. That makes them a promising studio in my books.

OK lets see how many good games they made link  only one : Eternal darkness, scored 9.4 , thats it. and do not get started with MGS they remade that game its not theyr original project and it scored lower then the PS version itgot 8.5 , MGS : TS got 8.2. One good game doesn make or prove anything , if Too Human will score high then they will be a good developer studio , now its like they got lucky with one game nothing more , nothing less.

Do you know anything about developing? With all the time and money invested, its impossible to get lucky, its the nature of the business. There is so much progamming and testing that you have to be good to make a game. And here's a sweet pic.

Thats Unreal Engine thats wy he looks so GOOD :P , but money and time can't produce tallent !   You shold know better that time in some cases is the enemy and money is getting wasted. And about that developing part I've read alot of stuff and believe me its a nightmare that you can't even imagine.

Im sorry but how can cows talk about guerilla who has made jack snot. killzone sucked. Silicon Knights has atleast made a AAA game. and if MGS twin snakes doesnt count, then guess what the last time they made a game it was a AAA. the fact is silicon knights is a rising dev. and this game looks great, it can easily get an 8 or 9 on graphics. The story looks like it can be interesting. the gameplay from what has been shown looks amazing as well. throw in a 4 player coop online, and yeah this could be another high AA-AAA game for silicon knights.
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I keep hearing and reading all kinds of things about this game, but whenever I see it in action I'm extremely let down.  I'm not sure what SK puts in their coffee over there.
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It needs a Beta or something included.
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[QUOTE="hailltoyou"][QUOTE="pundog"][QUOTE="hailltoyou"]

[QUOTE="pundog"][QUOTE="hailltoyou"]"promising studio"  :lol:  thats a good joke and here is wy : the only one thing that they done was Legasy of Kain : Blood omen. Thx to that game it became one of the greates game series ever created and that is to thank Crystal Dynamiks that made the rest of the series of Legasy of Kain, but still the reviews for Blood omen where low. And know they takes this realy abitios projeckt that the fighting system is totaly wrong and was allready done. jg4xchamp

uhh, they did Eternal darkness, scored 9.4. That makes them a promising studio in my books.

OK lets see how many good games they made link  only one : Eternal darkness, scored 9.4 , thats it. and do not get started with MGS they remade that game its not theyr original project and it scored lower then the PS version itgot 8.5 , MGS : TS got 8.2. One good game doesn make or prove anything , if Too Human will score high then they will be a good developer studio , now its like they got lucky with one game nothing more , nothing less.

Do you know anything about developing? With all the time and money invested, its impossible to get lucky, its the nature of the business. There is so much progamming and testing that you have to be good to make a game. And here's a sweet pic.

Thats Unreal Engine thats wy he looks so GOOD :P , but money and time can't produce tallent !   You shold know better that time in some cases is the enemy and money is getting wasted. And about that developing part I've read alot of stuff and believe me its a nightmare that you can't even imagine.

Im sorry but how can cows talk about guerilla who has made jack snot. killzone sucked. Silicon Knights has atleast made a AAA game. and if MGS twin snakes doesnt count, then guess what the last time they made a game it was a AAA. the fact is silicon knights is a rising dev. and this game looks great, it can easily get an 8 or 9 on graphics. The story looks like it can be interesting. the gameplay from what has been shown looks amazing as well. throw in a 4 player coop online, and yeah this could be another high AA-AAA game for silicon knights.

First of all : what the hell Too Human has to do with guerilla and Killzone ? where are not talking about that , don't change the subject , second for the next year or so all games that use unreal engine will get from 8 to 9

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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="hailltoyou"][QUOTE="pundog"][QUOTE="hailltoyou"]

[QUOTE="pundog"][QUOTE="hailltoyou"]"promising studio"  :lol:  thats a good joke and here is wy : the only one thing that they done was Legasy of Kain : Blood omen. Thx to that game it became one of the greates game series ever created and that is to thank Crystal Dynamiks that made the rest of the series of Legasy of Kain, but still the reviews for Blood omen where low. And know they takes this realy abitios projeckt that the fighting system is totaly wrong and was allready done. hailltoyou

uhh, they did Eternal darkness, scored 9.4. That makes them a promising studio in my books.

OK lets see how many good games they made link  only one : Eternal darkness, scored 9.4 , thats it. and do not get started with MGS they remade that game its not theyr original project and it scored lower then the PS version itgot 8.5 , MGS : TS got 8.2. One good game doesn make or prove anything , if Too Human will score high then they will be a good developer studio , now its like they got lucky with one game nothing more , nothing less.

Do you know anything about developing? With all the time and money invested, its impossible to get lucky, its the nature of the business. There is so much progamming and testing that you have to be good to make a game. And here's a sweet pic.

Thats Unreal Engine thats wy he looks so GOOD :P , but money and time can't produce tallent !   You shold know better that time in some cases is the enemy and money is getting wasted. And about that developing part I've read alot of stuff and believe me its a nightmare that you can't even imagine.

Im sorry but how can cows talk about guerilla who has made jack snot. killzone sucked. Silicon Knights has atleast made a AAA game. and if MGS twin snakes doesnt count, then guess what the last time they made a game it was a AAA. the fact is silicon knights is a rising dev. and this game looks great, it can easily get an 8 or 9 on graphics. The story looks like it can be interesting. the gameplay from what has been shown looks amazing as well. throw in a 4 player coop online, and yeah this could be another high AA-AAA game for silicon knights.

First of all : what the hell Too Human has to do with guerilla and Killzone ? where are not talking about that , don't change the subject , second for the next year or so all games that use unreal engine will get from 8 to 9

um u keep saying that silicon knight whose last official game made was AAA is unproven. yet many cows, not specifically u hype up guerilla and killzone due to the amoun of money put into that game. SK put money into this series. its being made out to be a trilogy so i expect them to come through with this game. and anyway the game shows of a lot of depth, gameplay mechanics, and a nice 4 player coop online. thats pretty good. and who cares what engine it uses, the fact is it looks great.
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#32 eddy_of_york
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I thought the art looked great. Maybe your confusing the cybernetic/myth-based backgrounds with bland ones. Theres certainly more to the surroundings in Too Human than you'll see at first glance. So, thats my opposition to the only point you really brought up...
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The peak of my interest in Too Human was back when it was a Playstation game.sdelaney86

Sony fanboysim FTL....