Top 10 reasons why Black Ops will obliterate Bad Company 2 and Medal of Honor

1. Better Campaign. COD games are known for having a better campaign than Bad Company games ( And most shooters for that ) and Im pretty sure Black Ops will be no exception. Treyarch have already proven themselves with World at War

2. Better Multiplayer. Balanced perks, Balanced Killstreaks, Wager Matches and COD points will take Bad Company 2's age old XP class system to ground.

3. Theatre Mode. Speaks for itself.

4. Better Soundtrack. COD games are known for their awesome soundtracks and Treyarch made a beastly one for World at War. From what I heard of Black Ops its going to be awesome. Bad Company's soundtrack is a piece of s***.

5. Better Weaponry. COD always has got authentic and better weaponry than any other game on the market. Black Ops looks to be bringing in some weapons that no other game has used before.

6. Better Setting. Cold War. Vietnam. Kowloon. Enough said

7. Better Multiplayer Maps. Bad Company 2's maps are sniper paradise and tank camping heaven. Black Ops maps look way better than Bad Company 2's 3 or 4 maps.

8. Better Story. Bad Company 2's story is just dreadful Modern Warfare 2 destroyed it and so will Black Ops

9. Nazi Zombies. Self Explanatory

10. New Dead Ops Arcade. Little information is known about this but it sounds awesome. Bad Company will never have a unique mode like this because of Ea and DICE's unoriginality.

Check out GTTV tonight and more info will be released on the game that will pin Bad Company 2 to the ground and rape it.

Feel free to counter me :)

Top 10 reasons you fail... You ain't played the game.

mattuk69

I hate these fanboy threads.

Top 10 reasons you fail... You ain't played the game.

mattuk69

This is a list of things that have already been confirmed. Black Ops will get a higher score than Bad Company 2 and will sell more copies proving that it is the better game.

Why must we put down Battlefield 2 to discuss the good things about Black Ops? :?

Arma 2 pummels them both into submission.

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[QUOTE="mattuk69"]

Top 10 reasons you fail... You ain't played the game.

mattuk69

This is a list of things that have already been confirmed. Black Ops will get a higher score than Bad Company 2 and will sell more copies proving that it is the better game.

Confirmed by Treyarch you dope. If a game sells well and can hold the spot of most played game for a year surely that is something and it will have reviews to back it up

1. Doesn't matter if it's better if i can beat it in 5 hours

2. How do you know it'll be balanced...?

3. I won't use it anyway. Although a lot of people might enjoy it

4. Opinion

5. Opinion

6. Opinion

7. Opinion

8. Cool! Now there's a story?

9. True

10. If little information is known, how can you even say that it's "awesome"?

CoD games are like micheal bay movies...they lack substance.

besides Battlefield bad company 2 vietnam is coming out which is looking more appealing to me and its lighter on the pocket for me.

I definitely think Black Ops is going to be better than Bad Company 2 and Modern Warfare 2 (by a good deal, actually), but people won't have a hard time countering your points TC.

I hate doing this but....it must be done

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CoD games are like micheal bay movies...they lack substance.

besides Battlefield bad company 2 vietnam is coming out which is looking more appealing to me and its lighter on the pocket for me.

razgriz_101

If COD games are Michael Bay movies then Battlefield is Uwe Boll movies

Come on mate. Give credit where it is earned. Bad Company 2 was amazing, I ran to that game when it came out coz MW2 was just a pain to play, The story was too shot, MP was messed up and spec ops was just boring, the spec ops felt like a job to earn stars to get platinum rather then a fun experience. MW2 left a mess that Black Ops will have to clean up and dont compare Bad Company 2 with Black Ops coz EA and Dice are making Battlefield 3 which i hope to be really good. And i dont see why you need to post something like this coz if you do then right now i will stick with BFBC2 since neither me nor you have even played Black Ops.

Uuuuuuuuffffffggggghhhhhhhhhhhhuuuuuhhhh......

Anyway, I ordered the PC version of Medal of Honor. I only expect it to be good enough for me to not feel dumb over having bought it primarily for the BF3 beta. From what I've played and seen I'm wholly agreeing with Jeff Gerstmann for once. I think when Black Ops is released people will be just about done with this game.

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

CoD games are like micheal bay movies...they lack substance.

besides Battlefield bad company 2 vietnam is coming out which is looking more appealing to me and its lighter on the pocket for me.

BxR_ANIMAL

If COD games are Michael Bay movies then Battlefield is Uwe Boll movies

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

CoD games are like micheal bay movies...they lack substance.

besides Battlefield bad company 2 vietnam is coming out which is looking more appealing to me and its lighter on the pocket for me.

BxR_ANIMAL

If COD games are Michael Bay movies then Battlefield is Uwe Boll movies

problem is battlefield is a multiplayer centric game first and foremost only 3 have a story mode dunno if i could count 1942 so i would then make it 2.Nice try tho but least the battlefield stories have a good bit of humour and like to poke fun at CoD for its silly things like heart beat sensors.

But saying that both are terrible story wise.

if any one really new what they were doing they'd take COD's kill streaks, perk system, and attachment system, and replaced bad company's class system it would be a much better game. COD was fun up until the excessive kill streaks, even though cod4 wasn't bad the killstreaks still really had no place, turns small maps into cluster **** even a large deal of attachments were kind of useless, seeing as you can hit people from across a map with a pistol... if they incorperated this stuff into bc2 it would be insanely better, maybe they can still have a class system but the killstreaks could be used much more strategically. COD would be better off without them. I also think they should take a lesson from halo reach and instead of rewarding players with stuff to murder people with, even the playing field give something else to level up for.

Agreed

Whatcha talkin' 'bout Willis?

I don't think this BO will be balanced, at least not with the chopper gun kill streakKevinButlerVP

I think with black ops chopper gunner this time wont be god like. i mean you'll play it as first person, shouldnt be that annoying, on MW2 you can see the whole map and everyone in it. i think black ops will also remove join option so that there wont be any boosters

Off topic but I wonder if Black Ops will become Treyarch's sub-series like Infinity Ward with MW.Zero5000X

I was wondering that to. Maybe sledgehammer will take on the duty of different COD games and Treyarch will become Black Ops exclusive

Edited before angry cod-haters report to mods......

Rephrase: Dear Cod haters, stop being bad at this game and maybe you'll enjoyed one of the most balanced and fun online games of this generation.

Stupid fanboy. I'm sure BO will have a great SP, but as far as MP goes it'll be overrun by hackers and cheaters within a week just like all other CoD games. Then when that finally dies down, it'll still have really small maps that are all more or less the same. Yeah I agree it will most likely be the most played game until the next CoD game, but the reason for that is not "its the better game". The reason is because it's the most noob friendly FPS available.nottu

better then MoH? yes but better then BC2? i doubt it

[QUOTE="mattuk69"]

Top 10 reasons you fail... You ain't played the game.

BxR_ANIMAL

This is a list of things that have already been confirmed. Black Ops will get a higher score than Bad Company 2 and will sell more copies proving that it is the better game.

If you think sales make a game better, you need to have your brain checked. I advice you to go get a PET scan right now to alleviate the coming pain in your future.

It will obliterate Medal of Honor because Medal of Honor is a lousy game. I doubt it touches Bad Company 2 multi-player though. But campaign and other modes like Special Ops and Zombies, black ops clearly wins the total package (most likely).2Chalupas

BC2 isn't perfact, but I and many others sure prefer it to the style and pacing of a Call of Duty. It's just really tiresome with people who can't respect other people's opinions. "What I like is the best and what you like is the worst! I'm right! Wah wah wah!". *sigh* But I don't know, maybe some of them can justify their childish behavior by being an actual child. I tend to assume that the average person here is like 16, but that's not always the case.

Assault rifles

• M16
• Enfield
• M14
• Famas
• Galil
• AUG
• FN FAL
• AK-47
• Commando
• G11

Sniper rifles

• L96AW
• Dragunov
• WA2000
• M40
• PSG1

Submachine guns

• MP5k
• Skorpion
• MAC-10
• AK74u
• Uzi
• PM63
• MPL
• Spectre

Light Machine Guns

• HK21
• RPK
• M60
• Mini-Gun (obtained from Care Packages)

Shotguns

• KS-23
• SPAS
• Olympia
• Ithaca
• HS-10

Bows

• Crossbow

Pistols

• M1911
• .357 Magnum
• Python
• Makerov
• ASP
• CZ75

Launchers

• M202A1 "Grim Reaper" Rocket Launcher
• RPG-7
• China Lake Pump Action Grenade Launcher
• Strela
• M72

Assault Rifle Attachments

• Extended Mags (500CP)
• Dual Mag (500CP)
• ACOG (750CP)
• Red Dot Sight (750CP)
• Reflex (750CP)
• Masterkey (750 CP)
• Flamethrower
• Infrared Scope (1000CP)
• Grenade Launcher (1000CP)
• Suppressor

Pistol Attachments

• ACOG (750CP)
• Snub Nose (750CP)
• Speed Reloader (750CP)
• Dual Wield
• Upgraded Iron Sights

Lethal Grenades

• M67 Frag Grenage
• Semtex/Sticky Grenade
• Tomahawk

Tactical Grenades

• Nova Gas
• Willy Pete (Smoke Grenade)
• Flash Bang
• Concussion
• Decoy

Alternate Ammo

• Incendiary 'Dragon's Breath' Shotgun Rounds
• Explosive Tipped Crossbow Bolts

Equipment

• Camera Spike (2000CP)
• C4 (2000CP)
• Tactical Insertion (2500CP)
• Jammer (2500CP)
• Motion Sensor (3000CP)
• Claymore (3000CP)

Other

• Knife
• Ballistic Knife

Custom Reticles

• Dot
• Semicircle
• Line with dot
• Circle
• Smiley
• Arrows Horizontal
• Arrows Vertical
• Arrows with dot
• Boxes
• Burst
• Circle within a circle
• Circle with dot
• Circle with Crosshairs
• Circle with inner line
• Circle with outer line
• Circle with arrows
• Circle with triangles
• Outer crosshairs
• Small crosshairs
• Large crosshairs
• Diamond
• Diamond outline
• Heart
• Radiation
• Skull
• Square
• Square outline
• Star
• 3 dots
• Treyarch
• Triangle
• Outer triangles
• x
• X with dot
• yin yang

Camo

• Sahara
• ERDL
• Tiger
• Berlin
• Warsaw
• Siberia
• Yukon
• Woodland
• Dusty
• Ice
• Red
• Olive
• Flora
• Gold

Lightweight

Tier 1

Standard: Move faster

Pro: + Aim faster after sprinting

ScavengerTier 1

Standard: Resupply from dead bodies

Pro: +Extra magazines (2000CP)

GhostTier 1

Standard: Undetectable by Spy Plane and Blackbird

Pro: + No red crosshair or name when targeted(2000CP)

HardlineTier 1

Standard: Killstreaks 1 kill early

Pro: + Get a second chance on the result of care packages

Flak JacketTier 1

Standard: Extra explosives resistance

Pro:+ Extra fire resistance and reset fuse when you toss back grenades

Hardened

Tier 2

Standard: Extra bullet penetration

Pro: +

ScoutTier 2

Standard: Hold breath longer

Pro: + Reduces weapon sway while aiming through a Sniper Scope

Steady AimTier 2

Standard: Extra accuracy when shooting from the hip

Pro: +

Sleight of Hand

Tier 2

Standard: Faster reload

Pro: + Aim down sight faster (does not work with Sniper Rifles)

Warlord

Tier 2

Standard: 2 attachments on primary weapon

Pro: + 2 attachments on secondary weapon

MarathonTier 3Standard: Longer sprint

Pro: + No falling damage

Ninja

Tier 3Standard: Move silently

Pro: + Move through Motion Sensors and Camera Spikesundetected

Second ChanceTier 3Standard: Pull out pistol before dying

Pro: + Revive friendly players

HackerTier 3Standard: Detect enemy equipment and explosives

Pro: + Booby trap enemy Care Packages and turn enemy killstreaks and equipment friendly

Tactical MaskTier 3Standard: Reduce the effect of Flash and Concussion grenades

Pro: + Night Vision Goggles

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1. Better Campaign. COD games are known for having a better campaign than Bad Company games ( And most shooters for that ) and Im pretty sure Black Ops will be no exception. Treyarch have already proven themselves with World at War

BxR_ANIMAL

1. Better Campaign. COD games are known for having a better campaign than Bad Company games ( And most shooters for that ) and Im pretty sure Black Ops will be no exception. Treyarch have already proven themselves with World at War

2. Better Multiplayer. Balanced perks, Balanced Killstreaks, Wager Matches and COD points will take Bad Company 2's age old XP class system to ground.

3. Theatre Mode. Speaks for itself.

4. Better Soundtrack. COD games are known for their awesome soundtracks and Treyarch made a beastly one for World at War. From what I heard of Black Ops its going to be awesome. Bad Company's soundtrack is a piece of s***.

5. Better Weaponry. COD always has got authentic and better weaponry than any other game on the market. Black Ops looks to be bringing in some weapons that no other game has used before.

6. Better Setting. Cold War. Vietnam. Kowloon. Enough said

7. Better Multiplayer Maps. Bad Company 2's maps are sniper paradise and tank camping heaven. Black Ops maps look way better than Bad Company 2's 3 or 4 maps.

8. Better Story. Bad Company 2's story is just dreadful Modern Warfare 2 destroyed it and so will Black Ops

9. Nazi Zombies. Self Explanatory

10. New Dead Ops Arcade. Little information is known about this but it sounds awesome. Bad Company will never have a unique mode like this because of Ea and DICE's unoriginality.

Check out GTTV tonight and more info will be released on the game that will pin Bad Company 2 to the ground and rape it.

Feel free to counter me :)

BxR_ANIMAL

So your making most of these assumption off the past CoD games. Look at what happened to MW2. Most people thought it would be the best game (including me) and it turned out to be super unbalanced and glitchy game.

Assault rifles

• M16
• Enfield
• M14
• Famas
• Galil
• AUG
• FN FAL
• AK-47
• Commando
• G11

Sniper rifles

• L96AW
• Dragunov
• WA2000
• M40
• PSG1

Submachine guns

• MP5k
• Skorpion
• MAC-10
• AK74u
• Uzi
• PM63
• MPL
• Spectre

Light Machine Guns

• HK21
• RPK
• M60
• Mini-Gun (obtained from Care Packages)

Shotguns

• KS-23
• SPAS
• Olympia
• Ithaca
• HS-10

Bows

• Crossbow

Pistols

• M1911
• .357 Magnum
• Python
• Makerov
• ASP
• CZ75

Launchers

• M202A1 "Grim Reaper" Rocket Launcher
• RPG-7
• China Lake Pump Action Grenade Launcher
• Strela
• M72

Assault Rifle Attachments

• Extended Mags (500CP)
• Dual Mag (500CP)
• ACOG (750CP)
• Red Dot Sight (750CP)
• Reflex (750CP)
• Masterkey (750 CP)
• Flamethrower
• Infrared Scope (1000CP)
• Grenade Launcher (1000CP)
• Suppressor

Pistol Attachments

• ACOG (750CP)
• Snub Nose (750CP)
• Speed Reloader (750CP)
• Dual Wield
• Upgraded Iron Sights

Lethal Grenades

• M67 Frag Grenage
• Semtex/Sticky Grenade
• Tomahawk

Tactical Grenades

• Nova Gas
• Willy Pete (Smoke Grenade)
• Flash Bang
• Concussion
• Decoy

Alternate Ammo

• Incendiary 'Dragon's Breath' Shotgun Rounds
• Explosive Tipped Crossbow Bolts

Equipment

• Camera Spike (2000CP)
• C4 (2000CP)
• Tactical Insertion (2500CP)
• Jammer (2500CP)
• Motion Sensor (3000CP)
• Claymore (3000CP)

Other

• Knife
• Ballistic Knife

Custom Reticles

• Dot
• Semicircle
• Line with dot
• Circle
• Smiley
• Arrows Horizontal
• Arrows Vertical
• Arrows with dot
• Boxes
• Burst
• Circle within a circle
• Circle with dot
• Circle with Crosshairs
• Circle with inner line
• Circle with outer line
• Circle with arrows
• Circle with triangles
• Outer crosshairs
• Small crosshairs
• Large crosshairs
• Diamond
• Diamond outline
• Heart
• Radiation
• Skull
• Square
• Square outline
• Star
• 3 dots
• Treyarch
• Triangle
• Outer triangles
• x
• X with dot
• yin yang

Camo

• Sahara
• ERDL
• Tiger
• Berlin
• Warsaw
• Siberia
• Yukon
• Woodland
• Dusty
• Ice
• Red
• Olive
• Flora
• Gold

Lightweight

Tier 1

Standard: Move faster

Pro: + Aim faster after sprinting

ScavengerTier 1

Standard: Resupply from dead bodies

Pro: +Extra magazines (2000CP)

GhostTier 1

Standard: Undetectable by Spy Plane and Blackbird

Pro: + No red crosshair or name when targeted(2000CP)

HardlineTier 1

Standard: Killstreaks 1 kill early

Pro: + Get a second chance on the result of care packages

Flak JacketTier 1

Standard: Extra explosives resistance

Pro:+ Extra fire resistance and reset fuse when you toss back grenades

Hardened

Tier 2

Standard: Extra bullet penetration

Pro: +

ScoutTier 2

Standard: Hold breath longer

Pro: + Reduces weapon sway while aiming through a Sniper Scope

Steady AimTier 2

Standard: Extra accuracy when shooting from the hip

Pro: +

Sleight of Hand

Tier 2

Standard: Faster reload

Pro: + Aim down sight faster (does not work with Sniper Rifles)

Warlord

Tier 2

Standard: 2 attachments on primary weapon

Pro: + 2 attachments on secondary weapon

MarathonTier 3Standard: Longer sprint

Pro: + No falling damage

Ninja

Tier 3Standard: Move silently

Pro: + Move through Motion Sensors and Camera Spikesundetected

Second ChanceTier 3Standard: Pull out pistol before dying

Pro: + Revive friendly players

HackerTier 3Standard: Detect enemy equipment and explosives

Pro: + Booby trap enemy Care Packages and turn enemy killstreaks and equipment friendly

Tactical MaskTier 3Standard: Reduce the effect of Flash and Concussion grenades

Pro: + Night Vision Goggles

http://g4tv.com /videos/48466/Call-of-Duty -

gamez_are_good

wow such amazing info! thanks! im not reading everyting as i wanna be surprised when i get the game :P. o and yay for Scavenger!!!!!!!

Lol Black ops is joke just another generic shooter like medal of honor

doubt it scores more than 5/10

[QUOTE="2Chalupas"]It will obliterate Medal of Honor because Medal of Honor is a lousy game. I doubt it touches Bad Company 2 multi-player though. But campaign and other modes like Special Ops and Zombies, black ops clearly wins the total package (most likely).McStrongfast

BC2 isn't perfact, but I and many others sure prefer it to the style and pacing of a Call of Duty. It's just really tiresome with people who can't respect other people's opinions. "What I like is the best and what you like is the worst! I'm right! Wah wah wah!". *sigh* But I don't know, maybe some of them can justify their childish behavior by being an actual child. I tend to assume that the average person here is like 16, but that's not always the case.

This isn't anything new for SW some thing happened when BC2 came out, everythread just bashed MW2 about how much better BC2 was. Even if they games imo are completely different, they each have a different play style to them.

Am i the only one here whos excited to theater mode? i mean finally i can upload my gameplay online ( or do funny stuff with friends :P) and upload to websites like youtube!!

1- Being better than dookie isn't saying much. No offense but the CoD campaigns have been worth mentioning twice. CoD1 and CoD4
2- lol at balanced.
3- Ok I like theatre
4- meh the soundtrack for all 3 is dookie
5- Similar weaponry, and personally BC2 feels better. Guns feel nicer, and the headshots from a sniper rifle are that much sweeter.
6- Meh to setting
7- lol all the CoD maps are small as hell
8- lol at the story for Call of Duty. Even Micheal Bay could not write up something that bad
9- That type of game mode is so played out now.
10- so if little information is known about this how is it a selling point? Also it's a Call of Duty game. It coming up with a unique mode isn't happening any time soon.

1. Better Campaign. COD games are known for having a better campaign than Bad Company games ( And most shooters for that ) and Im pretty sure Black Ops will be no exception. Treyarch have already proven themselves with World at War I thought World At War was ****. Even most MW fans admit that the campaign is totally weak in comparison to other FPS games (HL2? STALKER? Bioshock? Metro?)

2. Better Multiplayer. Balanced perks, Balanced Killstreaks, Wager Matches and COD points will take Bad Company 2's age old XP ****system to ground. Sure if you enjoy running around small maps spamming grenades and knifing people from 10ft away.

3. Theatre Mode. Speaks for itself. Admittedly a cool feature. It's a pity most of the matches filmed on it will be people running around knifing each other from 10ft away.

4. Better Soundtrack. COD games are known for their awesome soundtracks and Treyarch made a beastly one for World at War. From what I heard of Black Ops its going to be awesome. Bad Company's soundtrack is a piece of s***. We have established that you like CoD games. I especially like the Eminem song they used for the trailer. Very grown up. My parents don't understand me either!

5. Better Weaponry. COD always has got authentic and better weaponry than any other game on the market. Black Ops looks to be bringing in some weapons that no other game has used before. Like what?

6. Better Setting. Cold War. Vietnam. Kowloon. Enough said Yeah Vietnam is a pretty fresh setting for a FPS. No, really.

7. Better Multiplayer Maps. Bad Company 2's maps are sniper paradise and tank camping heaven. Black Ops maps look way better than Bad Company 2's 3 or 4 maps. LOL. I can't wait to run around knifing people in 4 or 5 different maps, until the DLC comes out and then i put down a tenner on 2 or 3 more! Yeay!

8. Better Story. Bad Company 2's story is just dreadful Modern Warfare 2 destroyed it and so will Black Ops Let me stop you right there. MW2's storyline was an incomprehensible piece of ****.

9. Nazi Zombies. Self Explanatory Admittedly another cool feature.

10. New Dead Ops Arcade. Little information is known about this but it sounds awesome. Bad Company will never have a unique mode like this because of Ea and DICE's unoriginality. So little information is known about this that you have already decided that a) it's AWESOME and b) it will obviously be unique, because CoD games are the pioneers of the genre. I've heard CoD games be called many things, but never unique.

Check out GTTV tonight and more info will be released on the game that will pin Bad Company 2 to the ground and rape it.

Feel free to counter me :)BxR_ANIMAL

But will it be better than Team Fortress 2 on the PC? :P

[QUOTE="Zero5000X"]Off topic but I wonder if Black Ops will become Treyarch's sub-series like Infinity Ward with MW.BxR_ANIMAL

I was wondering that to. Maybe sledgehammer will take on the duty of different COD games and Treyarch will become Black Ops exclusive

Maybe Sledgehammer will make a new sub-series like Modern Warfare but i cant wait to see what a new studio with new ideas can do for a series that releases great games with Wicked MP (except MW2 - its true too many ****ed up thing with it) every year

Top reason why no one cares: the same people buying Black Ops have bought BC2 and MOH, I won't be one of them.