[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="-RPGamer-"][QUOTE="glitchgeeman"] Totally agree with FF7 there. I loved the game, but seriously, what is with the fandom? Especially female fans of the game. They drive me insane with their undying love for Cloud and Vincent which honestly doesn't make any sense. How do you love a fictional character? :?
Only fan that annoys me more in the FF fanbase are the ones who played FF7 as their very first RPG while calling all the ones before it "archaic" and "boring". I respect opinions, I just wish people would give more props to FF7s predecessors, especially FF4 and FF6. Those get way too little attention in the overall FF fanbase.
-RPGamer-
FFIV doesn't deserve anymore credit than it gets already. Unlesswe're supposed to be awe struck by a RPG that leads you by thehand like no other FF has before or after it. A development system that is nothing more than gaining experience, and give you absolutely no choices what so ever. And if you're talking about "FF2" as released on SNES then tack on dumbed down. Seriously the game was a step back for the series other than plot, even FFI gave the user more variety in it's development system and that's sad.
Don't get me wrong I like FFIV, I just don't think it deserves more attention than it gets.
FF1 gave you choices? 3? 5? oh rly...? sorry but in 5 you had one choice on the path you took to becomming a supreme warrior or magic user to take out the hardest of enemies and no other choice, the end boss was a joke like pretty much every game since 5, only bosses that actually provided a fight were the optional ones and to defeat them you had to STRICTLY follow a given path in jobs, leveling up and items you had to get to even hope to beat them.
An RPG is supposed to be linear, your playing a role the point of the game is storyline and character development, if you want total freedom go play a sandbox game, otherwise your leading by the hand in an rpg makes no sense, unless you actually think ff7 wasn't linear as hell? cause it was you could go through the entire game using nothing but physical attack and health items and no magic, the magic system and every thing else was nearly optional, and yet again the last boss was weak sauce even at the lowest levels the only ones giving a challenge we're optional and really to beat them you had to follow a specific path on leveling, materia leveling and item gain.
Jrpgs are by design linear as hell, this is true of 99% of them.
I enjoyed ff1-6 more then 7 cause it wasn't shoved in my face obivously that the character dev was nill and the plot had more holes then a fishing net.All of those you listed still trumped IV in choices, what's your point? To further prove how shoe horned a design FFIV was? Congrats you did well.
Did I say the remaining FF titles weren't linear? No. JRPG are linear by design, I don't need you preaching something I know very well. What you missed in all of what i said is that FFIV takes the lead you by the hand design to it's extreme.
As for FFVII it had little individual character development, but it's dev system was still nice and allowed for many flavors of play styl and the plot was filled with some holes but still very nice. I've watched you piss on this game in the past, we will not agree on this subject.
I have to side with RPGamer on this one. But mostly I'd like to touch on the topic of JRPG's being linear.Many JRPG's, even to this day, still seem to lack one major thing that most of the FF series offered from I to IX... Freedom to explore. They gave you a sense of exploration in a huge world. They almost felt open ended as once you went beyond a certain point, you were pretty much free to traverse the world... Exploring. In VII, VIII and IX, these worlds seemed to be much larger.
VII added an element to the game that actually added to the game, in terms of giving you the desire to level and find new materia. Far too often I hear the word "grind" and while I will not say it wasn't in VII, I will say it was less of a grind leveling your characters while exploring. Seeing your characters and the materia they used grow was very addictive and dare I say fun?
I don't care what anyone says about VII's characters, I liked them! It's characters, world, story and music touched me in a way that only one other game even comes close... FF VIII. No one can take that nostalgia away from VII on a personal level. Sure, some may feel they've played better games but everyone's experiences are different. While no game is perfect, I don't think anyone can realistically stand there and say VII didn't deliver a memorable experience.
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