Toro the cat totally owns Nathan Drake and Big Daddy in PBR

Shows what a full match is like and gives some interesting ideas, gotta say I'm starting to come around to the special KO only system. At first I thought it sounded stupid, but after watching a full match it looks like it will work out perfectly. Looks fun! Can't wait to see who they are going to announce at Comic Con.

Toro Kills Nathan Drake in PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale (Off Screen)-IGN

I wonder who else will be in this game? Cloud? Spider Man? Ezio? It's all possible at this point. They said they will have a large roster consisting of 25-30 characters. Who do you want to see and what do you think of the game play so far? Does it change your mind on the KO system?

KO system still stupid to me. Toro doesn't fit in the game but considering he's the Japanese mascot they would have probably gotten some backlash if he wasn't in.tagyhag

I was hesitant to the KO system as well, on paper it definately sounds confusing and unorthodox. But in practice it works great, I don't know if you watched the video I linked but if you do it shows how good the KO system is in practice.

Toro is ok with me, I think he looks fun to play. I think he fits in just fine, he may not be popular here but neither were Roy or Marth in Smash Bros either were they? ;)

[QUOTE="tagyhag"]KO system still stupid to me. Toro doesn't fit in the game but considering he's the Japanese mascot they would have probably gotten some backlash if he wasn't in.ShadowMoses900

I was hesitant to the KO system as well, on paper it definately sounds confusing and unorthodox. But in practice it works great, I don't know if you watched the video I linked but if you do it shows how good the KO system is in practice.

Toro is ok with me, I think he looks fun to play. I think he fits in just fine, he may not be popular here but neither were Roy or Marth in Smash Bros either were they? ;)

Total riot! I'm lovin' the vids, especially the EVO vids with the sit down with Superbot. They addressed many of the issues some gamers have with the ko system, and it's shaping up to be a great and unique experience. There are strategies involved, combos to be had, and supers can be avoided and countered, as they exampled in vids. I think they said it best at the end of the 5th video where they asked for "Gamers to come to Allstars with the same open mind they gave SSB when it first came out." Which is totally true. Fighting fanatics totally dissed SSB as nothing but a gimmick, but it soon grew it's own genre and culture. There's no reason why the same open mindedness can't be had for Allstars.

Never heard of a "toro" before, but it's cute :3

Total riot! I'm lovin' the vids, especially the EVO vids with the sit down with Superbot. They addressed many of the issues some gamers have with the ko system, and it's shaping up to be a great and unique experience. There are strategies involved, combos to be had, and supers can be avoided and countered, as they exampled in vids. I think they said it best at the end of the 5th video where they asked for "Gamers to come to Allstars with the same open mind they gave SSB when it first came out." Which is totally true. Fighting fanatics totally dissed SSB as nothing but a gimmick, but it soon grew it's own genre and culture. There's no reason why the same open mindedness can't be had for Allstars.

ispeakfact

I only watched the 1st video, it explained the specials KO system and the way to counter/avoid them very well. But the presentation is so boring and they don't seem excited to be there, or maybe they are just nervous, probably the latter. Public speaking and interviews is hard for some people.

I say if you like Smash Bros your probably going to like this game as well.

[QUOTE="ispeakfact"]

Total riot! I'm lovin' the vids, especially the EVO vids with the sit down with Superbot. They addressed many of the issues some gamers have with the ko system, and it's shaping up to be a great and unique experience. There are strategies involved, combos to be had, and supers can be avoided and countered, as they exampled in vids. I think they said it best at the end of the 5th video where they asked for "Gamers to come to Allstars with the same open mind they gave SSB when it first came out." Which is totally true. Fighting fanatics totally dissed SSB as nothing but a gimmick, but it soon grew it's own genre and culture. There's no reason why the same open mindedness can't be had for Allstars.

ShadowMoses900

I only watched the 1st video, it explained the specials KO system and the way to counter/avoid them very well. But the presentation is so boring and they don't seem excited to be there, or maybe they are just nervous, probably the latter. Public speaking and interviews is hard for some people.

I say if you like Smash Bros your probably going to like this game as well.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="tagyhag"]KO system still stupid to me. Toro doesn't fit in the game but considering he's the Japanese mascot they would have probably gotten some backlash if he wasn't in.tagyhag

I was hesitant to the KO system as well, on paper it definately sounds confusing and unorthodox. But in practice it works great, I don't know if you watched the video I linked but if you do it shows how good the KO system is in practice.

Toro is ok with me, I think he looks fun to play. I think he fits in just fine, he may not be popular here but neither were Roy or Marth in Smash Bros either were they? ;)

I'm really hoping for a demo or a beta for Plus Members, that would be awesome. If it's a beta then you get to play with the devs and give them feed back, I think that would be a great thing.

Some of the characters look very out of place.

I hope there is a Demo.

What madness is this? A thread talking about Battle Royale with a postive vibe? Oh and I'm so pumped for this game :Pdanish-death

I doubt it's going to last long :P

Oh well, haters gonna hate. Most of the haters are just jealous because they can't play it. That's really what it boils down to.

Only people who have a right to be upset are 360 only owners because they are the ONLY group of gamers who will never get a Smash type game. They are missing out BIG time, if I was in their shoes I would be PO'd and Jealous too. But not at PBR, at MS instead for not making better exclusives.

Some of the characters look very out of place.

-Unreal-

[QUOTE="-Unreal-"]

Some of the characters look very out of place.

ispeakfact

It's funny though because Smash Bros had out of place characters too. Snake was a huge surprise, and he looked out of place next to Pikachu. So did some of the other more human looking characters like Ike next to Toon Link. But they give THAT a pass though right?

All the hate for this game is full of double standards.

[QUOTE="ispeakfact"][QUOTE="-Unreal-"]

Some of the characters look very out of place.

ShadowMoses900

It's funny though because Smash Bros had out of place characters too. Snake was a huge surprise, and he looked out of place next to Pikachu. So did some of the other more human looking characters like Ike next to Toon Link. But they give THAT a pass though right?

All the hate for this game is full of double standards.

It's not a problem, but the unusual placement of characters is much more evident n PSAS.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="ispeakfact"] That's kinda the idea. :(TrapJak

It's funny though because Smash Bros had out of place characters too. Snake was a huge surprise, and he looked out of place next to Pikachu. So did some of the other more human looking characters like Ike next to Toon Link. But they give THAT a pass though right?

All the hate for this game is full of double standards.

It's not a problem, but the unusual placement of characters is much more evident n PSAS.

I don't see how it's out of place, I don't understand that argument. Especially considering that when you put someone like Mr. Game and Watch next to Roy they both seem out of place.

Like I said all the hate for this game is coming from double standards. Only 360 only owners have a right to be upset, as they will never get any Smash type game. They are being left out.

Toro doesn't fit in the game but considering he's the Japanese mascot they would have probably gotten some backlash if he wasn't in.tagyhag

We are talking about a game that features a rapping Dog and a sly raccoon, and you think an adorable cat doesn't make sense or fit in such a roster?

Why can't some people grasp the idea behind such a title -_-

I hope there is a Demo.

True_Chaos_UK

Me too! Or at least a Beta that way we can play with the Devs and give them feed back to improve the game.

Never heard of a "toro" before, but it's cute :3

parkurtommo

He's only popular in Japan, I had no idea who he was either before he was announced in this game. Hoping this game has fan fare stuff like Smash Bros did where you can read all the information and history of every character.

I now finally know who that Cat avatar is now in the avatar selection for your PS3 gamertag picture. It's Toro :P

[QUOTE="TrapJak"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

It's funny though because Smash Bros had out of place characters too. Snake was a huge surprise, and he looked out of place next to Pikachu. So did some of the other more human looking characters like Ike next to Toon Link. But they give THAT a pass though right?

All the hate for this game is full of double standards.

ShadowMoses900

It's not a problem, but the unusual placement of characters is much more evident n PSAS.

I don't see how it's out of place, I don't understand that argument. Especially considering that when you put someone like Mr. Game and Watch next to Roy they both seem out of place.

Like I said all the hate for this game is coming from double standards. Only 360 only owners have a right to be upset, as they will never get any Smash type game. They are being left out.

Regarding my point, let's put it this way:

Here we have Sonic vs Peach vs Snake vs Olimar. Only Snake is the odd one out. If you replace Snake with anyone from the Mario, Kirby, Pokemon, and Star Fox series, the roster would be fine , since all of those characters are technically cartoons.

From the list of AS characters announced thus far, only Radec , Heihachi , Drake , and Kratos(err...) are acceptable characters to fight each other.

I look at that character selection screen and Im completely fine with it, it's a celebration of characters people know and love, even if a few are unfamiliar or not related to Nintendo.

SSB fanboys need to understand this game is not for Nintendo it's for the PlayStation audience, it will not affect the Smash series at all so I don't see the reason for the hate. And as someone who used to go to his friends house every weekend for Smash Bros Melee I can say that I am a fan of the IP and welcome another party fighter like PBR, especially considering the sincerity, passion and talent behind the project.

i'm calling it now, chell from portal is going to be in this game

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="TrapJak"]The only characters out of place were Snake, Ike, and ROB. You can't compare that when Fat Princess, Drake, SackBoy , and Toro are fighting each other. And with 16+ other characters?

It's not a problem, but the unusual placement of characters is much more evident n PSAS.

TrapJak

I don't see how it's out of place, I don't understand that argument. Especially considering that when you put someone like Mr. Game and Watch next to Roy they both seem out of place.

Like I said all the hate for this game is coming from double standards. Only 360 only owners have a right to be upset, as they will never get any Smash type game. They are being left out.

Regarding my point, let's put it this way:

Here we have Sonic vs Peach vs Snake vs Olimar. Only Snake is the odd one out. If you replace Snake with anyone from the Mario, Kirby, Pokemon, and Star Fox series, the roster would be fine , since all of those characters are technically cartoons.

From the list of AS characters announced thus far, only Radec , Heihachi , Drake , and Kratos(err...) are acceptable characters to fight each other.

Your leaving out a bunch of others, Zelda, Marth, Roy, Rob, even Ganon and Link would also look out of place in that fighter line up. But you know what? Who cares? Does it ruin your enjoyment of the game at all? No. That's the point of a Smash Game, it's supposed to be silly and over the top. It's not supposed to have every character "fit in" so to speak.

I don't see very many Smash Bros fans hating on this game, maybe the super hardcore fanboy ones are, but a true Smash Bros. Fan would be looking forward to this game. If you like Smash Bros your probably going to like this. It might even expand the genre and Nintendo might take some ideas from this game and implement this in their own. Thus making the next Smash Bros even better.

It's a win-win for everyone. Except for 360 only owners, they are the only group of gamers who have a real reason to be upset about this game. They are the ONLY group of gamers getting left out and they are upset about it, and who can blame them? I would be pretty jealous too if I was in their shoes.

I look at that character selection screen and Im completely fine with it, it's a celebration of characters people know and love, even if a few are unfamiliar or not related to Nintendo.

SSB fanboys need to understand this game is not for Nintendo it's for the PlayStation audience, it will not affect the Smash series at all so I don't see the reason for the hate. And as someone who used to go to his friends house every weekend for Smash Bros Melee I can say that I am a fan of the IP and welcome another party fighter like PBR, especially considering the sincerity, passion and talent behind the project.

Swift_Boss_A

Not only that, but it takes Nintendo FOREVER to release the next installment of a Smash Bros game. Nintendo even said not to expect a new one for at least another 3-4 years or so. It's going to be a LONG wait.

So why not pass the time with this game instead until the next Smash Bros comes out?

Still not too excited about the KO special system but I'm still getting it, mostly for the roster tho.

Thanks god they didn't make Toro a comic relief/fodder character like in SFvT

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="TrapJak"]The only characters out of place were Snake, Ike, and ROB. You can't compare that when Fat Princess, Drake, SackBoy , and Toro are fighting each other. And with 16+ other characters?

It's not a problem, but the unusual placement of characters is much more evident n PSAS.

TrapJak

I don't see how it's out of place, I don't understand that argument. Especially considering that when you put someone like Mr. Game and Watch next to Roy they both seem out of place.

Like I said all the hate for this game is coming from double standards. Only 360 only owners have a right to be upset, as they will never get any Smash type game. They are being left out.

Regarding my point, let's put it this way:

Here we have Sonic vs Peach vs Snake vs Olimar. Only Snake is the odd one out. If you replace Snake with anyone from the Mario, Kirby, Pokemon, and Star Fox series, the roster would be fine , since all of those characters are technically cartoons.

From the list of AS characters announced thus far, only Radec , Heihachi , Drake , and Kratos(err...) are acceptable characters to fight each other.

Looks fantastic. Like everyone else I was hesitant about the KO system but everyone who has played this hands on has said GREAT things about it. And to the person saying some toons look out of place...um thats the idea. I wouldnt want it ANY other way. What would be fun about making a game with just certain characters who 'fit in' with the same style?

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="ispeakfact"] That's kinda the idea. :(TrapJak

It's funny though because Smash Bros had out of place characters too. Snake was a huge surprise, and he looked out of place next to Pikachu. So did some of the other more human looking characters like Ike next to Toon Link. But they give THAT a pass though right?

All the hate for this game is full of double standards.

It's not a problem, but the unusual placement of characters is much more evident n PSAS.

so what if they're out of place? isn't that the idea? it'd be murder if they all look like they're from the same game. besides, that's the core concept of a mash-up. to have characters from different games come together.

Marvel vs Capcom chars don't look out of place because every character was stylized the same way. if you look at the original Street Fighter, Ryu doesn't look like that in Marvel vs Capcom games it;s because they had to re-draw him to fit with the Marvel peeps and vice versa.

here, they don't re-draw or re-stylize characters to fit with each other. that's why Parappa isn't 3D-esque like Kratos, and that's why Sweet Tooth isn't as comic-book-esque as Sly Cooper.

[QUOTE="tagyhag"]KO system still stupid to me. Toro doesn't fit in the game but considering he's the Japanese mascot they would have probably gotten some backlash if he wasn't in.ShadowMoses900

I was hesitant to the KO system as well, on paper it definately sounds confusing and unorthodox. But in practice it works great, I don't know if you watched the video I linked but if you do it shows how good the KO system is in practice.

Toro is ok with me, I think he looks fun to play. I think he fits in just fine, he may not be popular here but neither were Roy or Marth in Smash Bros either were they? ;)

Their success in Melee made Nintendo bring the Fire Emblem series outside of Japan. The Fire Emblem game Roy appeared in never released outside of Japan. Marth finally appeared in a Fire Emblem game outside of Japan in 2008 EU and 2009 NA with the release of Shadow Dragon on the DS.

i'm calling it now, chell from portal is going to be in this game

Chris_Williams

Hopefully seth will make this game balanced, I already see that the different final smashes (or whathev they're called here) are more or less unbalanced still.King_Dodongo

Heiachi level 3 special looks like it's unavoidable, so does Big Daddies. Drakes is kinda like that too, I don't know if you have seen it yet but I have and he turns people into those cursed monsters from El Dorado in Drakes Fortune, but they can still move and try to fight off Drake.

So it does seem a bit unbalanced in some areas, Smash Bros was like this as well. Some characters were just useless, choosing Jiggly Puff or Ice Climbers would be signing a death certificate.

[QUOTE="King_Dodongo"]Hopefully seth will make this game balanced, I already see that the different final smashes (or whathev they're called here) are more or less unbalanced still.ShadowMoses900

Heiachi level 3 special looks like it's unavoidable, so does Big Daddies. Drakes is kinda like that too, I don't know if you have seen it yet but I have and he turns people into those cursed monsters from El Dorado in Drakes Fortune, but they can still move and try to fight off Drake.

So it does seem a bit unbalanced in some areas, Smash Bros was like this as well. Some characters were just useless, choosing Jiggly Puff or Ice Climbers would be signing a death certificate.

This game needs Clippy from MS Word.

...unless he's planned for some sort of Microsoft SSB clone we haven't heard of yet.

If super mario smash brothers/brawl can get high scores..
Am sure this will as the gameplay is the same yet the graphics are much better.

Then again, you'd expect higher standard of games on the PS3.

If super mario smash brothers/brawl can get high scores..
Am sure this will as the gameplay is the same yet the graphics are much better.

Then again, you'd expect higher standard of games on the PS3.

g0ddyX

you need to hop off nintendo dude, they were never in this thread at all

[QUOTE="tagyhag"]Toro doesn't fit in the game but considering he's the Japanese mascot they would have probably gotten some backlash if he wasn't in.Swift_Boss_A

We are talking about a game that features a rapping Dog and a sly raccoon, and you think an adorable cat doesn't make sense or fit in such a roster?

Why can't some people grasp the idea behind such a title -_-

Still think this game is an utter PoS really...

What madness is this? A thread talking about Battle Royale with a postive vibe? Oh and I'm so pumped for this game :Pdanish-death

this is Cowspot after all.

I'm not ok with PaRappa either but Sly is fine. They just don't look like they fit in the entire style. But that's just an observation, not calling it a flaw. The sh*tty combat is what I would call a flaw.tagyhag

So you like raccoons but got something against cats and dogs? :p I rather like the absurdity of the mash ups and styles though Im sure it will split the opinion for majority of gamers. As far as gameplay goes each character is well represented in their fight style, Im guessing you just haven't found that one character that appeals to you because for me Kratos, Parappa just feel perfect as far as gameplay goes.

Well since ive seen it in action now, that health bar really kills a buy from me.

Well since ive seen it in action now, that health bar really kills a buy from me.

edinsftw

There is a health bar... of sorts. Think of your opponents super meter as your health bar, if you let them attack successfully you are allowing them to get closer towards killing you or others and gaining points.

Is that thing in the background from KZ3? What's it doing there?