Treyarch Says: Frostbite 2.0 Is Visually Stunning But Our Engine Can Be Updated

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#1 killzonexbox
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Josh Olin is a true gamers gamer, but with Battlefield 3 coming Call Of Duty is at risk of losing the FPS title. It is confirmed that Treyarch is working on a new project but will they up the ante to seriously compete against the future of FPS games such as Medal Of Honor as well.

This interview has tons of info released in it and you don't want too miss it, stay tuned for the rise, the fall, and the rise again of a new Call Of Duty.

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#2 Zero5000X
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Has Treyarch done anything original ever?
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#3 silversix_
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Their engine is a joke, whats the point of updating a joke :lol:
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Has Treyarch done anything original ever?Zero5000X
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater Such a great game.
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#5 MIYAMOTOnext007
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lol Source is the only engine that has really been updated very well. Half-Life 2 compared to Left 4 Dead 2 looks almost like a different engine.

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#6 BZSIN
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[QUOTE="Zero5000X"]Has Treyarch done anything original ever?i5750at4Ghz
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater Such a great game.

That was Neversoft. I think Treyarch did Kelly Slater's Pro Surfer.
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#7 Pug-Nasty
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The engine they use is poo. They would need to update it so much it wouldn't be anything similar to what it is now.

If Activision had more than one successful IP left, they could probably afford to let the franchise go for a couple of years to have their CoD studies collaborate on a new engine. Unfortunately, that one franchise supports the entire empire of crap production that is Activision.

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#8 deactivated-58b6232955e4a
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Unless I'm wrong, I don't think it's possible for id tech 3 to do lighting like that.
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#9 DoomZaW
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A tweaked ID tech 3 engine is supposed to beat Frostbite 2.0? :lol:

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#10 Episode_Eve
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I watched this last night. HHG is a fool with it, lol! :P

I don't doubt that they can improve the engine, but it won't be looking better, or good as, Frostbite 2.0! I don't think Josh Olin said it that way, anyway.

One thing's for sure, they're WINNING! :P

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#11 killzonexbox
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Has Treyarch done anything original ever?Zero5000X
Ultimate spider man..
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#12 Baranga
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Has Treyarch done anything original ever?Zero5000X

Die By The Sword - still no game like it. Gray Matter was merged into Treyarch years ago. They worked on Kingpin, Cyberia, Redneck Rampage.

And not original, they worked on Return to Castle Wolfenstein, a Quake 2 expansion and many more.

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#13 deactivated-58b6232955e4a
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[QUOTE="Zero5000X"]Has Treyarch done anything original ever?i5750at4Ghz
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater Such a great game.

Neversoft made it, Treyarch did the ports for TH1 and TH2. They weren't even involved with the much superior TH3 or Thug1.
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#14 killzonexbox
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A tweaked ID tech 3 engine is supposed to beat Frostbite 2.0? :lol:

DoomZaW
Yeah joke of the year..
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#15 Mystic-G
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There's no amount of updating they can do to match FB 2.0, they need to create a new engine.

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#16 killzonexbox
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There's no amount of updating they can do to match FB 2.0, they need to create a new engine.

Mystic-G

Or use ID tech 4..

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The engine didn't look good in Black Ops (Just tried out the demo) in fact MW2 looked way better then that game did. So they better try harder with the same engine that they will always use because so far the BF3 trailers looks way better in terms of graphics engine.

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#18 Episode_Eve
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[QUOTE="Mystic-G"]

There's no amount of updating they can do to match FB 2.0, they need to create a new engine.

killzonexbox

Or use ID tech 4..

I think Bethesda's using that engine exclusively.

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#19 antifanboyftw
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yeah, they are right. then can take a turd (their engine) and polish (update) it. it would be a lot better for everyone if they just made something better, but "that would be counter-productive" so CoD will continue looking exactly like it did over 4 years ago and never change. and the sales will still make BF3 look insignificant.
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#20 Baranga
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You guys realise that Source is the successor of the Quake 1 engine, right?

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[QUOTE="killzonexbox"]

[QUOTE="Mystic-G"]

There's no amount of updating they can do to match FB 2.0, they need to create a new engine.

Episode_Eve

Or use ID tech 4..

I think Bethesda's using that engine exclusively.

That's id Tech 5.
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#22 killzonexbox
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[QUOTE="killzonexbox"]

[QUOTE="Mystic-G"]

There's no amount of updating they can do to match FB 2.0, they need to create a new engine.

Episode_Eve

Or use ID tech 4..

I think Bethesda's using that engine exclusively.

I think activision can still use it..
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#23 funsohng
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Has Treyarch done anything original ever?Zero5000X
They made CoD multiplayer with UO
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[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"]

[QUOTE="killzonexbox"] Or use ID tech 4..

SAGE_OF_FIRE

I think Bethesda's using that engine exclusively.

That's id Tech 5.

Oh, I misread it, my bad.

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[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="Zero5000X"]Has Treyarch done anything original ever?BZSIN
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater Such a great game.

That was Neversoft. I think Treyarch did Kelly Slater's Pro Surfer.

Wait... Kelly married Slater? Wait till Zac hears about this.
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#26 Cranler
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lol Source is the only engine that has really been updated very well. Half-Life 2 compared to Left 4 Dead 2 looks almost like a different engine.

MIYAMOTOnext007

compare cod 1 to cod 4. huge difference. cryengine and unreal have been heavily updated as well. more than source

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#27 Cranler
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what cod really needs is better sound fx.

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[QUOTE="MIYAMOTOnext007"]

lol Source is the only engine that has really been updated very well. Half-Life 2 compared to Left 4 Dead 2 looks almost like a different engine.

Cranler

compare cod 1 to cod 4. huge difference. cryengine and unreal have been heavily updated as well. more than source

Source on the PC visually appears to look superior to id Tech 3.
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Well, why should they change their engine? is not like Battlefield 3 will steal their audience.

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#30 Cranler
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[QUOTE="Cranler"]

[QUOTE="MIYAMOTOnext007"]

lol Source is the only engine that has really been updated very well. Half-Life 2 compared to Left 4 Dead 2 looks almost like a different engine.

SAGE_OF_FIRE

compare cod 1 to cod 4. huge difference. cryengine and unreal have been heavily updated as well. more than source

Source on the PC visually appears to look superior to id Tech 3.

whats that have to do with what i said? read what i was replaying to. i see a bigger difference between cod 1 and 4 than hl2 and l4d 2. i'm not even gonna bring up the gigantic difference between quake 3 arena and cod 4.

l4d 2 vs mw 2 on pc is a tough one. very close imo. mw 2 definately has better hdr though.

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#31 AcidSoldner
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Isn't the Call of Duty series still running on a highly modified version of the Quake 3 Engine a.k.a. id Tech 3? I'm sorry but it's gonna take more of an upgrade on 12 year old software to compete with Frostbite 2.0.
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#32 Deevoshun
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They use a heavily modified Quake 3 engine, QUAKE 3!!! You can play that on a freaken browser for crying out loud. Time to upgrade or die Infinity!

Personally after BF:BC2 and Destruction 1.0+ I have a hard time playing games without destruction.

I am ready for Destruction 2.0...

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#33 heretrix
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[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"]

[QUOTE="killzonexbox"] Or use ID tech 4..

killzonexbox

I think Bethesda's using that engine exclusively.

I think activision can still use it..

Not if it's exclusive.And I think he meant ID tech 5 (Rage). Unless Activision buys Zenimax they won't be using it.

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#34 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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Not that they need it. Black Ops looked quite good, and it's not like the next CoD isn't gonna sell millions anyways.
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#35 XenoLair
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Well, BF3 is getting a new engine too so we'll see... I prefer gameplay anyway, maybe they could improve on that huh!?
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#36 VensInferno
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Try harder Treyarch.

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#37 Bus-A-Bus
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lol Source is the only engine that has really been updated very well. Half-Life 2 compared to Left 4 Dead 2 looks almost like a different engine.

MIYAMOTOnext007

Oh really?Treyarch/IW engine is updated DOOM 3 engine,its code is 8 years old.

Black Ops in alot of instances looks better than big majority of console shooters and its 60fps.It definitely looks better than BFBC2,man has to admit they did a great job with the engine that runs twice the speed of its rivals.

The fact that people hate it for just the sake of hating it is different ball game...

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#38 Vaasman
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heh.

"Well, we could update our engine, but of course we won't because then we couldn't keep pumping out the same game every year."

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#39 Gauloisess
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lol.
COD-engine will support HDR, tessalation and DX11 once pigs start flying.

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#40 flexin007
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Then do it you lazy franchise milking weiners...

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[QUOTE="MIYAMOTOnext007"]

lol Source is the only engine that has really been updated very well. Half-Life 2 compared to Left 4 Dead 2 looks almost like a different engine.

Bus-A-Bus

Oh really?Treyarch/IW engine is updated DOOM 3 engine,its code is 8 years old.

Black Ops in alot of instances looks better than big majority of console shooters and its 60fps.It definitely looks better than BFBC2,man has to admit they did a great job with the engine that runs twice the speed of its rivals.

The fact that people hate it for just the sake of hating it is different ball game...

looks better than BC2? :lol:
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#42 Cranler
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lol.
COD-engine will support HDR, tessalation and DX11 once pigs start flying.

Gauloisess

cod does have hdr. how do you think they get the sunshine effect?

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[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

[QUOTE="MIYAMOTOnext007"]

lol Source is the only engine that has really been updated very well. Half-Life 2 compared to Left 4 Dead 2 looks almost like a different engine.

ferret-gamer

Oh really?Treyarch/IW engine is updated DOOM 3 engine,its code is 8 years old.

Black Ops in alot of instances looks better than big majority of console shooters and its 60fps.It definitely looks better than BFBC2,man has to admit they did a great job with the engine that runs twice the speed of its rivals.

The fact that people hate it for just the sake of hating it is different ball game...

looks better than BC2? :lol:

On consoles definitely.

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[QUOTE="Gauloisess"]

lol.
COD-engine will support HDR, tessalation and DX11 once pigs start flying.

Cranler

cod does have hdr. how do you think they get the sunshine effect?

It doesn't have to be HDR.May be simple bloomeffect done right(like KZ3).

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Well, why should they change their engine? is not like Battlefield 3 will steal their audience.

madsnakehhh

this, but i think they feel that there are behind them...but i think we all know that already

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#46 TheEpicGoat
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They could make 100 engines tbh

EDIT: I personally believe that the next treyarch game (release date of 10-11-12 most likely) will have a better engine then frost 2.0

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Has Treyarch done anything original ever?Zero5000X

They made spiderman. And to be honest, Spiderman 2 was my favorite game they've made, really original concept. Can't say the same for anything else though.

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[QUOTE="MIYAMOTOnext007"]

lol Source is the only engine that has really been updated very well. Half-Life 2 compared to Left 4 Dead 2 looks almost like a different engine.

Bus-A-Bus

It definitely looks better than BFBC2

So is it glaucoma or gonorrhea?

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#49 Phaze-Two
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why does it matter? treyarch sucks. you're only allowed to come out with PR comments like this if you are a respected developer.

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#50 Bus-A-Bus
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And what part of "on consoles" you don't seem to understand?