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#1 erazor51
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A true "next generation" Nintendo console, tentatively referred to as the Wii HD, will hit the market in 2011, according to the folks at What They Play. The site claimed that Nintendo is currently showing early presentations of Wii 2.0 to the game development community, and that Miyamoto's new device will be based on completely new hardware and will contain HD visuals, digitally distributed content and expanded storage.

The sources said the transition will be similar to "the shift from Game Boy to Game Boy Advance," meaning key elements (such as Wiimote-game interaction) will stay the same while the core hardware gets taken to a new level. Nintendo's not commenting, but What They Play pointed out that R&D spending at the company has more than tripled—from $103 million to $370 million—since the Wii was released two years ago. Be still my fluttering heart.

Link: http://www.whattheyplay.com/blog/2008/09/30/new-wii-due-by-2011/

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#2 wally2nv
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lol i thought u ment wii will have this gen graphics next gen and i was like WHAT?!?!?!?!
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#3 akira2465
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Does the HD in your post stand for Highly Disappointing?
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#4 Sony-tha-champ0
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by that time PS3 and 360 will get rid of the wii
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#5 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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by that time PS3 and 360 will get rid of the wiiSony-tha-champ0
Don't be silly.
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#6 nc_soldier
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Does the HD in your post stand for Highly Disappointing? akira2465

lol, clever comment =P

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#7 Sony-tha-champ0
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[QUOTE="Sony-tha-champ0"]by that time PS3 and 360 will get rid of the wiiAljosa23
Don't be silly.

in graphics
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I'm amazed at what some blogs do to attract visitors.
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#10 Legendaryscmt
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But the casual market doesn't care about HD.
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#11 Cheese-Muffins
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If this is even true, it makes sense. By 2011, the Wii will have been out for 5 years, which is normal. And then they can release a superior Wii. Im going to guess that they didnt release this hardware to begin because they didnt know how popular the Wii would be. Now that they know everyone wants one, then bring on the HD Wii! Oh well.... still 3 more years left in the Wii and there are still plenty of great games coming our for it.

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#12 EliteKitteh
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Does the HD in your post stand for Highly Disappointing? akira2465

Good one... :|

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#13 kingdre
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Does the HD in your post stand for Highly Disappointing? akira2465

Clever. :lol:

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#14 Mardil
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But the casual market doesn't care about HD.Legendaryscmt

Well Nintendo thinks they will, in three years.

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#15 MKLOL
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But the casual market doesn't care about HD.Legendaryscmt
That's why I don't think they will make one... The wii is selling like crazy, why would they stop selling it for an upgraded version if it still sells ?
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#16 Ontain
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seems right. at that point they'll be able to deliver 360 type graphics at the 249 price point and still make a bit of profit.
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[QUOTE="Legendaryscmt"]But the casual market doesn't care about HD.MKLOL
That's why I don't think they will make one... The wii is selling like crazy, why would they stop selling it for an upgraded version if it still sells ?

What is it about a 5 year cycle that most of you still don't understand?
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#18 mjarantilla
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But the casual market doesn't care about HD.Legendaryscmt

In three years they will.

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Does the HD in your post stand for Highly Disappointing? akira2465

Yea,because every game this gen showed us a TRUE HD experience..
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#20 romans828_2002
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Ah, but the HD thing is starting to snowball. When it first came out, only hardcore videophiles had it. Nowadays, HD is really starting to pick up steam as the prices fall and programming grows. Even my wife, who cares about electronics about as much as she cares about cutting grass and watching paint dry, really, really loves our HDTV. Durning our four years of marriage (wonderful years, especially now that our second child is coming in March) I nagged her endlessly about getting an HDTV, only to see her grow more and more annoyed with me each time I mentioned it. Now, she loves the thing. That being said, HD is catching on more and more, and people are going to demand HD sources, even if they are "casual" in the way of electronics. Even my wife says that the SD Wii looks bad compared to our HD sources.
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#21 SecretPolice
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Yay, so duel analog and everything, cool. :twisted:

On a serious note, "n" should not be expecting all those moms & pops, grandmas & grandpas to purchase another VG console in droves like they did the Wii this gen. Not gonna happen captain.

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#22 ChiddaPotta
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Does the HD in your post stand for Highly Disappointing? akira2465

I think it does...

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Okay, so the Next Wii will be like the PS3/360. They want HD right? That's the big goal. That sounds good if it were out now.

THE PROBLEM is the PS4/720 will be out.It will still be a generation behind. The same problem.

Now, sure it's possible i'm just sounding off, but I wanted to put that out there for the TC, because he didn't seem to notice this at all. I may be wrong, but it's worth considering.

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#24 killerfist
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But the casual market doesn't care about HD.Legendaryscmt
Of course they do. Everyone does at one point. besides in three years from now, alot of people will have an HDTV.
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[QUOTE="akira2465"]Does the HD in your post stand for Highly Disappointing? Lto_thaG

Yea,because every game this gen showed us a TRUE HD experience..

720P is true HD. (Many current gen games do it NATIVE)

1080p is FULL HD. (very few games do it native)

and with some doing sub-HD, but barley noticable due to a small difference (640p)

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#26 mjarantilla
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THE PROBLEM is the PS4/720 will be out.It will still be a generation behind. The same problem.

SolidTy

That's no problem at all because the differences between generations is shrinking with every successive generation.

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Better late then never...I guess.
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#28 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

THE PROBLEM is the PS4/720 will be out.It will still be a generation behind. The same problem.

mjarantilla

That's no problem at all because the differences between generations is shrinking with every successive generation.

That does seem to be the case, however, Nintendo told us that before the Revolution came out, and I can see some differences!

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#29 Zhengi
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Does the HD in your post stand for Highly Disappointing? akira2465

As it does for the 360 and PS3 :) HD consoles all the way around!

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#30 Dr_Corndog
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Does the HD in your post stand for Highly Disappointing? akira2465

Hmm...it doesn't stand for the same thing with regard to the 360 and PS3, does it?

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Yeah, if they only can improve the online and bring it on par the rest of this generations consoles(360, ps3)
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#32 fbigent34
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guys comon lets just stay in this gen right now. Beacuse as of now next gen doesnt exist at all.

plus its painted with HD. give me a break.

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#33 Videodogg
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Ohhh, cant wait for HD versions of Wii Fit and Wii Music. And i am sure all those sequels to Wii Petz and Rapallas Fishing games will look spiffy in HD, too.
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Okay, so the Next Wii will be like the PS3/360. They want HD right? That's the big goal. That sounds good if it were out now.

THE PROBLEM is the PS4/720 will be out.It will still be a generation behind. The same problem.

Now, sure it's possible i'm just sounding off, but I wanted to put that out there for the TC, because he didn't seem to notice this at all. I may be wrong, but it's worth considering.

SolidTy

Well if it is true that it's like Gameboy to Gameboy Advance. It should be comparable to the PS4/720.

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#35 mjarantilla
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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]

THE PROBLEM is the PS4/720 will be out.It will still be a generation behind. The same problem.

SolidTy

That's no problem at all because the differences between generations is shrinking with every successive generation.

That does seem to be the case, however, Nintendo told us that before the Revolution came out, and I can see some differences!

No, Nintendo told us that the Wii would definitely be nowhere near as powerful as the 360 and PS3. They never obfuscated that fact from us.

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[QUOTE="akira2465"]Does the HD in your post stand for Highly Disappointing? nc_soldier

lol, clever comment =P

hehe, if they DID bring this out then it would essentially be an admission that they got it wrong the first time. like with wii mlotion plus. that was them basically dressing up the fact that the wiimote is an inprecise hunk of ****

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[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"][QUOTE="akira2465"]Does the HD in your post stand for Highly Disappointing? Eyezonmii


Yea,because every game this gen showed us a TRUE HD experience..

720P is true HD. (Many current gen games do it NATIVE)

1080p is FULL HD. (very few games do it native)

and with some doing sub-HD, but barley noticable due to a small difference (640p)

720P isnt true HD.. It was used by companies too gain on the HD hype eventhough normal HD TVs when too expensive. 720P has never been considerd a viable HD option by the industry, its a quick cash in on the HD hype..

Infact 720P shouldn't even be considerd HD, its purely a commercial tactic calling it HD.. 1080 is the only HD format, no matter what guilable consumers are led too belive.

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#38 mjarantilla
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[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"]

[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"][QUOTE="akira2465"]Does the HD in your post stand for Highly Disappointing? omgimba


Yea,because every game this gen showed us a TRUE HD experience..

720P is true HD. (Many current gen games do it NATIVE)

1080p is FULL HD. (very few games do it native)

and with some doing sub-HD, but barley noticable due to a small difference (640p)

720P isnt true HD.. It was used by companies too gain on the HD hype eventhough normal HD TVs when too expensive. 720P has never been considerd a viable HD option by the industry, its a quick cash in on the HD hype..

Infact 720P shouldn't even be considerd HD, its purely a commercial tactic calling it HD.. 1080 is the only HD format, no matter what guilable consumers are led too belive.

720p and 1080i are both true HD, because they are the only formats supported by television broadcasting, and televisions are build to conform primarily to television broadcasts.

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#39 murat8
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i dont see a big difference from 480i to 1080p its there but its not that big or thats just CoD4
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#40 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]

THE PROBLEM is the PS4/720 will be out.It will still be a generation behind. The same problem.

mjarantilla

That's no problem at all because the differences between generations is shrinking with every successive generation.

That does seem to be the case, however, Nintendo told us that before the Revolution came out, and I can see some differences!

No, Nintendo told us that the Wii would definitely be nowhere near as powerful as the 360 and PS3. They never obfuscated that fact from us.

I'm talking about Nintendo said, and I'm paraphrasing, that Graphics are getting too good, and too similar that gaming needs a new direction. Something along the lines that you won't see as big a difference, because the jumps are getting smaller.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Okay, so the Next Wii will be like the PS3/360. They want HD right? That's the big goal. That sounds good if it were out now.

THE PROBLEM is the PS4/720 will be out.It will still be a generation behind. The same problem.

Now, sure it's possible i'm just sounding off, but I wanted to put that out there for the TC, because he didn't seem to notice this at all. I may be wrong, but it's worth considering.

Devil-Itachi

Well if it is true that it's like Gameboy to Gameboy Advance. It should be comparable to the PS4/720.


That doesn't make any sense. The GB to GBA was the equivalent of NES to SNES. ONE GENERATION. One Generation from Wii, graphically, would put the Wii2 at PS3/360 levels...instead of PS2/Xbox/PSP levels.
i dont see a big difference from 480i to 1080p its there but its not that big or thats just CoD4murat8

THERE's A HUGE DIFFERNCE, my god, there's a difference...but to each their own. Nice Wario Sig, BTW.

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[QUOTE="omgimba"][QUOTE="Eyezonmii"]

[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"][QUOTE="akira2465"]Does the HD in your post stand for Highly Disappointing? mjarantilla


Yea,because every game this gen showed us a TRUE HD experience..

720P is true HD. (Many current gen games do it NATIVE)

1080p is FULL HD. (very few games do it native)

and with some doing sub-HD, but barley noticable due to a small difference (640p)

720P isnt true HD.. It was used by companies too gain on the HD hype eventhough normal HD TVs when too expensive. 720P has never been considerd a viable HD option by the industry, its a quick cash in on the HD hype..

Infact 720P shouldn't even be considerd HD, its purely a commercial tactic calling it HD.. 1080 is the only HD format, no matter what guilable consumers are led too belive.

720p and 1080i are both true HD, because they are the only formats supported by television broadcasting, and televisions are build to conform primarily to television broadcasts.

... Its true 720P is supported.. But at the same time a vastly superior format is supported aswell. The 1080p format might live for 20 years. While the 720P format might live alongside it for a while, but thats only because people actully bought it at in a relativley short transition between SD and HD, its a short lived format that was made to please peoples wallets, it wont be sold in a few years from now.. 1080P and 720P broadcasts developing at the same speed truly shows why 720P is just an unneeded format, there is no benefit.

720p is more then SD and if you define HD as greater then SD, then its HD, just like 481P would be.. But the next TV generation that we are seeing has always been intended for 1080P, nothing else. In 2 years 1080p TVs will be so ridicousley dominating that everyone who bought a 720p will feel robbed since they are not really a part of this generation.

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#42 murat8
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[QUOTE="murat8"]i dont see a big difference from 480i to 1080p its there but its not that big or thats just CoD4SolidTy
THERE's A HUGE DIFFERNCE, my god, there's a difference...but to each their own. Nice Wario Sig, BTW.

really the main difference i see is actually in how clear the menus are not the gameplay but the next time my friend brings his PS3 ill compare CoD4 in 1080p and 480i. also thanks about the sig
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#43 krp008
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What? Will it addon HD, surroundsound, DVD player, and an online service? Even then it will still be behind for its time
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#45 omgimba
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"][QUOTE="murat8"]i dont see a big difference from 480i to 1080p its there but its not that big or thats just CoD4murat8
THERE's A HUGE DIFFERNCE, my god, there's a difference...but to each their own. Nice Wario Sig, BTW.

really the main difference i see is actually in how clear the menus are not the gameplay but the next time my friend brings his PS3 ill compare CoD4 in 1080p and 480i. also thanks about the sig

CoD4 is 600p.

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... Its true 720P is supported.. But at the same time a vastly superior format is supported aswell. The 1080p format might live for 20 years. While the 720P format might live alongside it for a while, but thats only because people actully bought it at in a relativley short transition between SD and HD, its a short lived format that was made to please peoples wallets, it wont be sold in a few years from now.. 1080P and 720P broadcasts developing at the same speed truly shows why 720P is just an unneeded format, there is no benefit.

omgimba


Of course there's a benefit, it only requires half the bandwidth and storage space compared to 1080p. Which is why it's used for broadcast TV, and 1080p isn't.
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#47 Devil-Itachi
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[QUOTE="Devil-Itachi"]

Well if it is true that it's like Gameboy to Gameboy Advance. It should be comparable to the PS4/720.

SolidTy

That doesn't make any sense. The GB to GBA was the equivalent of NES to SNES. ONE GENERATION. One Generation from Wii, graphically, would put the Wii2 at PS3/360 levels...instead of PS2/Xbox/PSP levels.

Yeah because the SNES had a 32 bit processor running at 16.7 mhz and 386 KB of ram. And don't mention stuff like Yoshi's Island that came out near the end of the generation and used a special chip. Gameboy Advance in console terms is in between the SNES and PS1.

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#48 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="Devil-Itachi"]

Well if it is true that it's like Gameboy to Gameboy Advance. It should be comparable to the PS4/720.

Devil-Itachi

That doesn't make any sense. The GB to GBA was the equivalent of NES to SNES. ONE GENERATION. One Generation from Wii, graphically, would put the Wii2 at PS3/360 levels...instead of PS2/Xbox/PSP levels.

Yeah because the SNES had a 32 bit processor running at 16.7 mhz and 386 KB of ram. And don't mention stuff like Yoshi's Island that came out near the end of the generation and used a special chip. Gameboy Advance in console terms is in between the SNES and PS1.

Dude, no way. Sorry, just no. Forget the specs of what it takes to have a handheld operate like a console, the GBA was only a tad stronger than the SNES. It's no where near PSOne levels.

Even by your logic, that wouldn't place the Wii2 at PS4/720 levels, that would put the Wii2 at PS3/720 (Plus a little bit extra) levels.

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#49 yoshi_64
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It's not unlikely that Nintendo, nor MS, nor Sony have R&D for the PS4, Xbox 720 and Wii 2 down, now is it?

Released in 2011 though? Seems plausible, but I don't know I assumed 2012 is more accurate. :P

Well, anyways, I really hope that Wii 2 won't be as disappointing as Wii is right now. Lack of games, online structure, storage limitations, and Wii mote's use. (Wii 2 either has Wii Motion plus integrated day one, thus making games bc on Wii 2 or it forgoes a new route, but I doubt that will happen. Yet it's very unlike Nintendo to keep the same controller....)

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lol

I kinda understand, but then again I dont understand why everyone downplays Nintendo's ability to have a machine that outputs outstanding graphics. It's only this generation that they've had a home console that is a lot weaker than the competition and it's not like Nintendo has never delivered in the previous generations of gaming, but for some reason everyone acts like Nintendo's machines NEVER in their lifetime were they a powerful console.