Truly laying the graphical/power question to rest. The full truth.

The areas of graphics

GPU: 360 wins

CPU: PS3

RAM: Equal

Overall Peak performance: PS3

THE LOOK ON 360 FANS' FACES: (PRICLESS)

That is correct you ignorant (meaning lacking knowledge, so dont try to report me.) 360 fans. WIKI, the poster of a post named: Laying the Graphics question to rest. The genius only posted the highlights of the 360. In the end, the PS3 is the dominant console Hardware (and software wise).

John Carmack Himself (a 360 enthusiast) explains it best. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PFUw29U4J8

P.S. the cell is 300% more powerful than an Xbox 360. Here is that link: http://www.videogamesblogger.com/2006/11/07/ps3s-cell-three-times-more-powerful-as-the-xbox-360-processor.htm

Let us bury this, and never dig up the bones. The rest will be shown through the games. Example

PS3 OBLIVION > 360 OBLIVION

And that list will get bigger and bigger.

The areas of graphics

GPU: 360 wins

CPU:PS3

RAM: Equal

Overall Peak performance: PS3

THE LOOK ON 360 FANS' FACES: (PRICLESS)

That is correct you ignorant (meaning lacking knowledge, so dont try to report me.) 360 fans. WIKI, the poster of a post named: Laying the Graphics question to rest. The genius only posted the highlights of the 360. In the end, the PS3 is the dominant console Hardware (and software wise).

John Carmack Himself (a 360 enthusiast) explains it best. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PFUw29U4J8

P.S. the cell is 300% more powerful than an Xbox 360. Here is that link: http://www.videogamesblogger.com/2006/11/07/ps3s-cell-three-times-more-powerful-as-the-xbox-360-processor.htm

Let us bury this, and never dig up the bones. The rest will be shown through the games. Example

PS3 OBLIVION > 360 OBLIVION

And that list will get bigger and gigger.

mohammad112388

[QUOTE="mohammad112388"]

The areas of graphics

GPU: 360 wins

CPU:PS3

RAM: Equal

Overall Peak performance: PS3

THE LOOK ON 360 FANS' FACES: (PRICLESS)

That is correct you ignorant (meaning lacking knowledge, so dont try to report me.) 360 fans. WIKI, the poster of a post named: Laying the Graphics question to rest. The genius only posted the highlights of the 360. In the end, the PS3 is the dominant console Hardware (and software wise).

John Carmack Himself (a 360 enthusiast) explains it best. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PFUw29U4J8

P.S. the cell is 300% more powerful than an Xbox 360. Here is that link: http://www.videogamesblogger.com/2006/11/07/ps3s-cell-three-times-more-powerful-as-the-xbox-360-processor.htm

Let us bury this, and never dig up the bones. The rest will be shown through the games. Example

PS3 OBLIVION > 360 OBLIVION

And that list will get bigger and gigger.

Xeonz

John Carmack =/= 360 expert...

The rest of your proof is equally valid...

[QUOTE="Xeonz"][QUOTE="mohammad112388"]

The areas of graphics

GPU: 360 wins

CPU:PS3

RAM: Equal

Overall Peak performance: PS3

THE LOOK ON 360 FANS' FACES: (PRICLESS)

That is correct you ignorant (meaning lacking knowledge, so dont try to report me.) 360 fans. WIKI, the poster of a post named: Laying the Graphics question to rest. The genius only posted the highlights of the 360. In the end, the PS3 is the dominant console Hardware (and software wise).

John Carmack Himself (a 360 enthusiast) explains it best. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PFUw29U4J8

P.S. the cell is 300% more powerful than an Xbox 360. Here is that link: http://www.videogamesblogger.com/2006/11/07/ps3s-cell-three-times-more-powerful-as-the-xbox-360-processor.htm

Let us bury this, and never dig up the bones. The rest will be shown through the games. Example

PS3 OBLIVION > 360 OBLIVION

And that list will get bigger and gigger.

mohammad112388

P.S. the cell is 300% more powerful than an Xbox 360.
mohammad112388

Here is the peak performance explained in another website (if you trust this one)

http://dpad.gotfrag.com/portal/story/35372/?spage=4

PC graphics >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 360 and PS3 graphics

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What are you trying to prove exactly?
foxhound_fox

PC graphics >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 360 and PS3 graphics

:|

What are you trying to prove exactly?
foxhound_fox

The areas of graphics

GPU: 360 wins

CPU: PS3

RAM: Equal

Overall Peak performance: PS3

THE LOOK ON 360 FANS' FACES: (PRICLESS)

That is correct you ignorant (meaning lacking knowledge, so dont try to report me.) 360 fans. WIKI, the poster of a post named: Laying the Graphics question to rest. The genius only posted the highlights of the 360. In the end, the PS3 is the dominant console Hardware (and software wise).

John Carmack Himself (a 360 enthusiast) explains it best. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PFUw29U4J8

P.S. the cell is 300% more powerful than an Xbox 360. Here is that link: http://www.videogamesblogger.com/2006/11/07/ps3s-cell-three-times-more-powerful-as-the-xbox-360-processor.htm

Let us bury this, and never dig up the bones. The rest will be shown through the games. Example

PS3 OBLIVION > 360 OBLIVION

And that list will get bigger and bigger.

mohammad112388

The areas of graphics

GPU: 360 wins

CPU: PS3

RAM: Equal

Overall Peak performance: PS3

THE LOOK ON 360 FANS' FACES: (PRICLESS)

That is correct you ignorant (meaning lacking knowledge, so dont try to report me.) 360 fans. WIKI, the poster of a post named: Laying the Graphics question to rest. The genius only posted the highlights of the 360. In the end, the PS3 is the dominant console Hardware (and software wise).

John Carmack Himself (a 360 enthusiast) explains it best. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PFUw29U4J8

P.S. the cell is 300% more powerful than an Xbox 360. Here is that link: http://www.videogamesblogger.com/2006/11/07/ps3s-cell-three-times-more-powerful-as-the-xbox-360-processor.htm

Let us bury this, and never dig up the bones. The rest will be shown through the games. Example

PS3 OBLIVION > 360 OBLIVION

And that list will get bigger and bigger.

mohammad112388

360 fans, it is ok. The 360 will come out with some decent looking games. But i assure you that the PS3 will have better looking games, more exclusives, and the online (which is getting better everyday) is free. Nothing beats free. And it took microsof 1 whole year to come out with a phenominal looking game that gets boring a week afeter you beat it. And everybody knows what game im talking about.mohammad112388

Great job, your proof is from youtube(lol), and even better an artical where the information was gotten from sony and not an independednt source(the artical says so). Congratuations, on the great proof.General14

GPU= 360 wins (xenos vs RSX)

CPU = PS3 wins (Xenon vs Cell)

RAM= 360 wins (512MB total, BUT 480MB availible per game on 360 VS 416MB availible per game on PS3 +huge 360 bandwidth advantage)

Online = 360 wins

multiplat development = 360 wins

 libary support= 360 wins

 controller = 360 for me, but whatever fits YOUR hand better wins.

Yeah, the PS3 really wins this technical comparison

PS about your links....who wrote that garbage??  SPEs are NOT cores!!! just check how much total memory they can access----256K! Cell>Xenon but 3X better? no way!

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]PC graphics >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 360 and PS3 graphics

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What are you trying to prove exactly?
primetime2121

We all know power means squat. PS2, anyone?FreedomReign

[QUOTE="aceReborn"]GPU: 360 clearly better, ps3 gpu is dated by comparision. CPU: PS3 cpu better in some areas, 360 cpu better in other areas. Memory: 360 has more usable ram, better ram architecture. Overall winner: 360. Pretty sad considering the 60gb ps3 will retail for twice the price of the 360 premium when it finally gets released over here.mohammad112388

also--"peak" performance is nothing, just a marketing word for "if we do nothing but X, then our system's X rate is better than yours"   What matters is sustained performance in a game environment with sound, AI. physics, etc all running at once. Yes, as I've said, Cell>Xenos but GAMES (not weather forecast software) hit GPU and memory walls long before they hit CPU ones.

It's like saying, "system X is better because it has a CPU good at face recognition but system Y only has better 3D acceleration"---which is more useful for a game system???

Why do 360 fans think it has more raw power. Post for Proof.(And not from a biased sight) And Are You Telling Me John Carmack (a very well known,and respected, developer) is lying. Waht do civilians and gamers know. Diddy squat. So prove me(and John) wrong and post.

Why do 360 fans think it has more raw power. Post for Proof.(And not from a biased sight) And Are You Telling Me John Carmack (a very well known,and respected, developer) is lying. Waht do civilians and gamers know. Diddy squat. So prove me(and John) wrong and post.

mohammad112388

 http://www.nordichardware.com/news,1551.html

During an interview with Todd Hollenshead, president at ID Software, US gaming magazine found out what the icon and gamedeveloper John Carmack thought about the two coming game consoles that will power ID Software's latest creation, Quake 4. Carmack's grade for Xbox 360 was "great" but he wasn't convinced by PlayStation 3 where the grade was "pain in my ass". This simply a jugment on how the consoles are to work with when developing games and since Xbox 360 will be launched relatively soon the devkits should be better but at the same we can't say we are surprised the PS3 is hard to master.

[QUOTE="Tony_aaaa"][QUOTE="mohammad112388"]

Why do 360 fans think it has more raw power. Post for Proof.(And not from a biased sight) And Are You Telling Me John Carmack (a very well known,and respected, developer) is lying. Waht do civilians and gamers know. Diddy squat. So prove me(and John) wrong and post.

mohammad112388

 http://www.nordichardware.com/news,1551.html

During an interview with Todd Hollenshead, president at ID Software, US gaming magazine found out what the icon and gamedeveloper John Carmack thought about the two coming game consoles that will power ID Software's latest creation, Quake 4. Carmack's grade for Xbox 360 was "great" but he wasn't convinced by PlayStation 3 where the grade was "pain in my ass". This simply a jugment on how the consoles are to work with when developing games and since Xbox 360 will be launched relatively soon the devkits should be better but at the same we can't say we are surprised the PS3 is hard to master.

[QUOTE="mohammad112388"]

Why do 360 fans think it has more raw power. Post for Proof.(And not from a biased sight) And Are You Telling Me John Carmack (a very well known,and respected, developer) is lying. Waht do civilians and gamers know. Diddy squat. So prove me(and John) wrong and post.

The_Ish

[QUOTE="The_Ish"][QUOTE="mohammad112388"]

Why do 360 fans think it has more raw power. Post for Proof.(And not from a biased sight) And Are You Telling Me John Carmack (a very well known,and respected, developer) is lying. Waht do civilians and gamers know. Diddy squat. So prove me(and John) wrong and post.

Tony_aaaa

[QUOTE="The_Ish"][QUOTE="mohammad112388"]

Why do 360 fans think it has more raw power. Post for Proof.(And not from a biased sight) And Are You Telling Me John Carmack (a very well known,and respected, developer) is lying. Waht do civilians and gamers know. Diddy squat. So prove me(and John) wrong and post.

Tony_aaaa

ram = ???? i thought the 360 had more that the ps3?

plus you know the ps2 had the better cpu and the xbox gpu dont you!?

[QUOTE="Tony_aaaa"][QUOTE="The_Ish"][QUOTE="mohammad112388"]

Why do 360 fans think it has more raw power. Post for Proof.(And not from a biased sight) And Are You Telling Me John Carmack (a very well known,and respected, developer) is lying. Waht do civilians and gamers know. Diddy squat. So prove me(and John) wrong and post.

ZeLeam

ram = ???? i thought the 360 had more that the ps3?

daveg1

sigh not another one of these.. These are just fanboy wars..

[QUOTE="daveg1"]

ram = ???? i thought the 360 had more that the ps3?

Teufelhuhn

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="daveg1"]

ram = ???? i thought the 360 had more that the ps3?

Tony_aaaa

[QUOTE="ZeLeam"][QUOTE="Tony_aaaa"][QUOTE="The_Ish"][QUOTE="mohammad112388"]

Why do 360 fans think it has more raw power. Post for Proof.(And not from a biased sight) And Are You Telling Me John Carmack (a very well known,and respected, developer) is lying. Waht do civilians and gamers know. Diddy squat. So prove me(and John) wrong and post.

Tony_aaaa

[QUOTE="mohammad112388"]

Why do 360 fans think it has more raw power. Post for Proof.(And not from a biased sight) And Are You Telling Me John Carmack (a very well known,and respected, developer) is lying. Waht do civilians and gamers know. Diddy squat. So prove me(and John) wrong and post.

Tony_aaaa

http://www.nordichardware.com/news,1551.html

During an interview with Todd Hollenshead, president at ID Software, US gaming magazine found out what the icon and gamedeveloper John Carmack thought about the two coming game consoles that will power ID Software's latest creation, Quake 4. Carmack's grade for Xbox 360 was "great" but he wasn't convinced by PlayStation 3 where the grade was "pain in my ass". This simply a jugment on how the consoles are to work with when developing games and since Xbox 360 will be launched relatively soon the devkits should be better but at the same we can't say we are surprised the PS3 is hard to master.

John Carmack =/= 360 expert...

The rest of your proof is equally valid...

Spartan070

[QUOTE="Tony_aaaa"][QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="daveg1"]

ram = ???? i thought the 360 had more that the ps3?

Teufelhuhn

[QUOTE="mohammad112388"]

Why do 360 fans think it has more raw power. Post for Proof.(And not from a biased sight) And Are You Telling Me John Carmack (a very well known,and respected, developer) is lying. Waht do civilians and gamers know. Diddy squat. So prove me(and John) wrong and post.

Tony_aaaa

http://www.nordichardware.com/news,1551.html

During an interview with Todd Hollenshead, president at ID Software, US gaming magazine found out what the icon and gamedeveloper John Carmack thought about the two coming game consoles that will power ID Software's latest creation, Quake 4. Carmack's grade for Xbox 360 was "great" but he wasn't convinced by PlayStation 3 where the grade was "pain in my ass". This simply a jugment on how the consoles are to work with when developing games and since Xbox 360 will be launched relatively soon the devkits should be better but at the same we can't say we are surprised the PS3 is hard to master.

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="daveg1"]

ram = ???? i thought the 360 had more that the ps3?

Tony_aaaa