Try This Logic+ Why Halo Fails

If lems are to be believed & Halo killed anything on PS2.....Why did Xbox only sell 22million consoles, while PS2 sold 120million.    

You can use the PS2 had the already biigger install base cause of the 18 month head start. But if that is the case, then why, even after xbox released did PS2 ousell the xbox consectutively every month even after xbox, halo & GC were released. 

As a metter of fact, most months PS2 outsold GC & Xbox combined.   

I saw a post on here saying PS2 already 20-30million consoles sold after it's 18mth head start on xbox.      If thee are the true figures, the 360 has almsot no chance of rivalling that figure in the same time frame.   

Face it lems, Halo, ain't saving nothing again.    And this time one of your biggest selling points, NG, is also showing up to party on PS3.      You all seem to think little (sales) fish like DMC are gonna account for PS3's downfall, when the exclusives that MS have already lost & will continue to lose when PS3's install base rises more, should be more worrying to you.

Fact is, the reason why PS consoles always win, is because they cater to a bigger, ,more diverse taste in gaming.

And Sony's 1st & 2rd party developers are the ones that do this best.   They have taken over from where Nintendo were once king & leaped over them in all respects.

Forget it lems, MS is again sharing last place with Nintendo, while Sony dominates once again.  

I guess ol' wile (bill) coyotee is going back to the ol' drawing board with his acme crew, allard & more.

If any FPS on the PS3 Outsells halo 3 i will eat my hat.doodlebug01206

will u eat mine too?

If any FPS on the PS3 Outsells halo 3 i will eat my hat.doodlebug01206

Timesplitters deserved to, as it was a better game, strictly from a gameplay &  fun point

If lems are to be believed & Halo killed anything on PS2.....Why did Xbox only sell 22million consoles, while PS2 sold 120million.    

You can use the PS2 had the already biigger install base cause of the 18 month head start. But if that is the case, then why, even after xbox released did PS2 ousell the xbox consectutively every month even after xbox, halo & GC were released. 

As a metter of fact, most months PS2 outsold GC & Xbox combined.   

 

I saw a post on here saying PS2 already 20-30million consoles sold after it's 18mth head start on xbox.      If thee are the true figures, the 360 has almsot no chance of rivalling that figure in the same time frame.   

Face it lems, Halo, ain't saving nothing again.    And this time one of your biggest selling points, NG, is also showing up to party on PS3.      You all seem to think little (sales) fish like DMC are gonna account for PS3's downfall, when the exclusives that MS have already lost & will continue to lose when PS3's install base rises more, should be more worrying to you.

Fact is, the reason why PS consoles always win, is because they cater to a bigger, ,more diverse taste in gaming.

And Sony's 1st & 2rd party developers are the ones that do this best.   They have taken over from where Nintendo were once king & leaped over them in all respects.

Forget it lems, MS is again sharing last place with Nintendo, while Sony dominates once again.  

I guess ol' wile (bill) coyotee is going back to the ol' drawing board with his acme crew, allard & more.

grannyvukka

[QUOTE="doodlebug01206"]If any FPS on the PS3 Outsells halo 3 i will eat my hat.grannyvukka

Timesplitters deserved to, as it was a better game, strictly from a gameplay & fun point

9.7 + 9.4 = you owned.Spartan070

Spartan, you earned this.

 I knew you'd jump all over this one. None of the dev teams listed above come close to Bungie. This is another one of those "Think before you post threads".

I knew you'd jump all over this one.musicalmac

9.7 + 9.4 = you owned.Spartan070

umm the TC is talking about console sales.

[QUOTE="Spartan070"]9.7 + 9.4 = you owned.Kev_Unreal

umm the TC is talking about console sales.

[QUOTE="Kev_Unreal"]

[QUOTE="Spartan070"]9.7 + 9.4 = you owned.musicalmac

umm the TC is talking about console sales.

umm, the original post talks more about console sales, not reviews.

If any FPS on the PS3 Outsells halo 3 i will eat my hat.doodlebug01206

[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="Kev_Unreal"]

[QUOTE="Spartan070"]9.7 + 9.4 = you owned.Kev_Unreal

umm the TC is talking about console sales.

umm, the original post talks more about console sales.

[QUOTE="doodlebug01206"]If any FPS on the PS3 Outsells halo 3 i will eat my hat.grannyvukka

Timesplitters deserved to, as it was a better game, strictly from a gameplay & fun point

[QUOTE="doodlebug01206"]If any FPS on the PS3 Outsells halo 3 i will eat my hat.NextGenNow

 From my opinion at least, the only reason Halo did so well, is because it was one of the only decent exclusives to the Xbox, thats it, and thats all it is, there are plenty of FPS which were better online (Not Opinion, Fact), better stories (cmon people Master Chief Barely spoke, the Tech Woman was just like a Faerie to Zelda) the veichles were nothing new that Unreal Tournement hadnt already done.

 Slugish slow paced gameplay (for an FPS) , ridicilous how slow the Spaceships moved, so easy to kill people with it was just ridicoulsly Imbalanced, the normal starting weapon was a joke.

 The reason it did well, is just that the Xbox360 had nothing else "decent" enough to be called a great exclusive, Halo 2 was more of the same, Halo 3? Will be like Unreal Tournement 3, Haze , Farcry (the new one) , just pumped up versions, Unless they drastically change it, the game will remian Xbox Fans only, sure we played Halo in college for awhile (16 of us) on the network, but boom introduced them to UT2004 ... Halo wasnt played again thats all I can say. 

 From anyone by Xbox Fans point of view, Halo will not be the best FPS this year, and will not make Xbox360 "Win"

[QUOTE="Kev_Unreal"][QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="Kev_Unreal"]

[QUOTE="Spartan070"]9.7 + 9.4 = you owned.musicalmac

umm the TC is talking about console sales.

umm, the original post talks more about console sales.

Objection!

[QUOTE="doodlebug01206"]If any FPS on the PS3 Outsells halo 3 i will eat my hat.grannyvukka

Timesplitters deserved to, as it was a better game, strictly from a gameplay & fun point

You are talking about last gen and ignoring recent events all together.  The 360 has a killer app that isn't Halo, and sales are fine.  Wait until the PS3 catches up to the 360 and then talk crap.

[QUOTE="NextGenNow"][QUOTE="doodlebug01206"]If any FPS on the PS3 Outsells halo 3 i will eat my hat.musicalmac

 From my opinion at least, the only reason Halo did so well, is because it was one of the only decent exclusives to the Xbox, thats it, and thats all it is, there are plenty of FPS which were better online (Not Opinion, Fact), better stories (cmon people Master Chief Barely spoke, the Tech Woman was just like a Faerie to Zelda) the veichles were nothing new that Unreal Tournement hadnt already done.

 Slugish slow paced gameplay (for an FPS) , ridicilous how slow the Spaceships moved, so easy to kill people with it was just ridicoulsly Imbalanced, the normal starting weapon was a joke.

 The reason it did well, is just that the Xbox360 had nothing else "decent" enough to be called a great exclusive, Halo 2 was more of the same, Halo 3? Will be like Unreal Tournement 3, Haze , Farcry (the new one) , just pumped up versions, Unless they drastically change it, the game will remian Xbox Fans only, sure we played Halo in college for awhile (16 of us) on the network, but boom introduced them to UT2004 ... Halo wasnt played again thats all I can say. 

 From anyone by Xbox Fans point of view, Halo will not be the best FPS this year, and will not make Xbox360 "Win"

Meu2k7

[QUOTE="Spartan070"]9.7 + 9.4 = you owned.Kev_Unreal

umm the TC is talking about console sales.

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

From my opinion at least, the only reason Halo did so well, is because it was one of the only decent exclusives to the Xbox, thats it, and thats all it is, there are plenty of FPS which were better online (Not Opinion, Fact), better stories (cmon people Master Chief Barely spoke, the Tech Woman was just like a Faerie to Zelda) the veichles were nothing new that Unreal Tournement hadnt already done.

Slugish slow paced gameplay (for an FPS) , ridicilous how slow the Spaceships moved, so easy to kill people with it was just ridicoulsly Imbalanced, the normal starting weapon was a joke.

The reason it did well, is just that the Xbox360 had nothing else "decent" enough to be called a great exclusive, Halo 2 was more of the same, Halo 3? Will be like Unreal Tournement 3, Haze , Farcry (the new one) , just pumped up versions, Unless they drastically change it, the game will remian Xbox Fans only, sure we played Halo in college for awhile (16 of us) on the network, but boom introduced them to UT2004 ... Halo wasnt played again thats all I can say.

From anyone by Xbox Fans point of view, Halo will not be the best FPS this year, and will not make Xbox360 "Win"

farhan007

[QUOTE="Kev_Unreal"]

[QUOTE="Spartan070"]9.7 + 9.4 = you owned.Spartan070

umm the TC is talking about console sales.

Agreed.:P

[QUOTE="farhan007"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

From my opinion at least, the only reason Halo did so well, is because it was one of the only decent exclusives to the Xbox, thats it, and thats all it is, there are plenty of FPS which were better online (Not Opinion, Fact), better stories (cmon people Master Chief Barely spoke, the Tech Woman was just like a Faerie to Zelda) the veichles were nothing new that Unreal Tournement hadnt already done.

Slugish slow paced gameplay (for an FPS) , ridicilous how slow the Spaceships moved, so easy to kill people with it was just ridicoulsly Imbalanced, the normal starting weapon was a joke.

The reason it did well, is just that the Xbox360 had nothing else "decent" enough to be called a great exclusive, Halo 2 was more of the same, Halo 3? Will be like Unreal Tournement 3, Haze , Farcry (the new one) , just pumped up versions, Unless they drastically change it, the game will remian Xbox Fans only, sure we played Halo in college for awhile (16 of us) on the network, but boom introduced them to UT2004 ... Halo wasnt played again thats all I can say.

From anyone by Xbox Fans point of view, Halo will not be the best FPS this year, and will not make Xbox360 "Win"

Meu2k7

[QUOTE="doodlebug01206"]If any FPS on the PS3 Outsells halo 3 i will eat my hat.grannyvukka

Timesplitters deserved to, as it was a better game, strictly from a gameplay &  fun point

 From my opinion at least, the only reason Halo did so well, is because it was one of the only decent exclusives to the Xbox, thats it, and thats all it is, there are plenty of FPS which were better online (Not Opinion, Fact), better stories (cmon people Master Chief Barely spoke, the Tech Woman was just like a Faerie to Zelda) the veichles were nothing new that Unreal Tournement hadnt already done.

 Slugish slow paced gameplay (for an FPS) , ridicilous how slow the Spaceships moved, so easy to kill people with it was just ridicoulsly Imbalanced, the normal starting weapon was a joke.

 The reason it did well, is just that the Xbox360 had nothing else "decent" enough to be called a great exclusive, Halo 2 was more of the same, Halo 3? Will be like Unreal Tournement 3, Haze , Farcry (the new one) , just pumped up versions, Unless they drastically change it, the game will remian Xbox Fans only, sure we played Halo in college for awhile (16 of us) on the network, but boom introduced them to UT2004 ... Halo wasnt played again thats all I can say. 

 From anyone by Xbox Fans point of view, Halo will not be the best FPS this year, and will not make Xbox360 "Win"

Meu2k7

By the way, 2 years after the xbox version the pc version was still rated very high, including a lot of AAA scores including gamespot before you start babbling about different standards. (apparantly it was a really bad port too)

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

From my opinion at least, the only reason Halo did so well, is because it was one of the only decent exclusives to the Xbox, thats it, and thats all it is, there are plenty of FPS which were better online (Not Opinion, Fact), better stories (cmon people Master Chief Barely spoke, the Tech Woman was just like a Faerie to Zelda) the veichles were nothing new that Unreal Tournement hadnt already done.

Slugish slow paced gameplay (for an FPS) , ridicilous how slow the Spaceships moved, so easy to kill people with it was just ridicoulsly Imbalanced, the normal starting weapon was a joke.

The reason it did well, is just that the Xbox360 had nothing else "decent" enough to be called a great exclusive, Halo 2 was more of the same, Halo 3? Will be like Unreal Tournement 3, Haze , Farcry (the new one) , just pumped up versions, Unless they drastically change it, the game will remian Xbox Fans only, sure we played Halo in college for awhile (16 of us) on the network, but boom introduced them to UT2004 ... Halo wasnt played again thats all I can say.

From anyone by Xbox Fans point of view, Halo will not be the best FPS this year, and will not make Xbox360 "Win"

11Marcel

By the way, 2 years after the xbox version the pc version was still rated very high, including a lot of AAA scores including gamespot before you start babbling about different standards. (apparantly it was a really bad port too)

PS2 Top sellers -
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas (14 million)
Grand Theft Auto: Vice City (13 million)
Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec (11 million)
Grand Theft Auto III (11 million)
Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty (7 million)
Kingdom Hearts (5.6 million shipped)
Final Fantasy X (5 million)

Xbox Top sellers -
Halo 2 (8 million)
Halo: Combat Evolved (5 million)

    And that is with a 100 million system lead. You can see why Halo does not indeed fail. 

[QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="Kev_Unreal"]

[QUOTE="Spartan070"]9.7 + 9.4 = you owned.Kev_Unreal

umm the TC is talking about console sales.

Agreed.:P

    Actually Gran Turismo 3 outsold it. 

PS2 Top sellers -
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas (14 million)
Grand Theft Auto: Vice City (13 million)
Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec (11 million)
Grand Theft Auto III (11 million)
Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty (7 million)
Kingdom Hearts (5.6 million shipped)
Final Fantasy X (5 million)

Xbox Top sellers -
Halo 2 (8 million)
Halo: Combat Evolved (5 million)

And that is with a 100 million system lead. You can see why Halo does not indeed fail.

SpruceCaboose

If lems are to be believed & Halo killed anything on PS2.....Why did Xbox only sell 22million consoles, while PS2 sold 120million.

You can use the PS2 had the already biigger install base cause of the 18 month head start. But if that is the case, then why, even after xbox released did PS2 ousell the xbox consectutively every month even after xbox, halo & GC were released.

As a metter of fact, most months PS2 outsold GC & Xbox combined.

 

I saw a post on here saying PS2 already 20-30million consoles sold after it's 18mth head start on xbox. If thee are the true figures, the 360 has almsot no chance of rivalling that figure in the same time frame.

Face it lems, Halo, ain't saving nothing again. And this time one of your biggest selling points, NG, is also showing up to party on PS3. You all seem to think little (sales) fish like DMC are gonna account for PS3's downfall, when the exclusives that MS have already lost & will continue to lose when PS3's install base rises more, should be more worrying to you.

Fact is, the reason why PS consoles always win, is because they cater to a bigger, ,more diverse taste in gaming.

And Sony's 1st & 2rd party developers are the ones that do this best. They have taken over from where Nintendo were once king & leaped over them in all respects.

Forget it lems, MS is again sharing last place with Nintendo, while Sony dominates once again.

I guess ol' wile (bill) coyotee is going back to the ol' drawing board with his acme crew, allard & more.

grannyvukka

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="farhan007"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

From my opinion at least, the only reason Halo did so well, is because it was one of the only decent exclusives to the Xbox, thats it, and thats all it is, there are plenty of FPS which were better online (Not Opinion, Fact), better stories (cmon people Master Chief Barely spoke, the Tech Woman was just like a Faerie to Zelda) the veichles were nothing new that Unreal Tournement hadnt already done.

Slugish slow paced gameplay (for an FPS) , ridicilous how slow the Spaceships moved, so easy to kill people with it was just ridicoulsly Imbalanced, the normal starting weapon was a joke.

The reason it did well, is just that the Xbox360 had nothing else "decent" enough to be called a great exclusive, Halo 2 was more of the same, Halo 3? Will be like Unreal Tournement 3, Haze , Farcry (the new one) , just pumped up versions, Unless they drastically change it, the game will remian Xbox Fans only, sure we played Halo in college for awhile (16 of us) on the network, but boom introduced them to UT2004 ... Halo wasnt played again thats all I can say.

From anyone by Xbox Fans point of view, Halo will not be the best FPS this year, and will not make Xbox360 "Win"

Meu2k7

july 17 2003: xbox version

november 18 2003: pc version.

you fail.  

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

PS2 Top sellers -
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas (14 million)
Grand Theft Auto: Vice City (13 million)
Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec (11 million)
Grand Theft Auto III (11 million)
Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty (7 million)
Kingdom Hearts (5.6 million shipped)
Final Fantasy X (5 million)

Xbox Top sellers -
Halo 2 (8 million)
Halo: Combat Evolved (5 million)

 

And that is with a 100 million system lead. You can see why Halo does not indeed fail.

Meu2k7

    That is very poor logic there. It sold well because they were both phenomenal games, and there was plenty of other games for the Xbox that people could have bought.

    Simple fact is, that even though the PS2 had more that 90 million more systems sold, Halo and Halo 2 outsold all but 7 games on the PS2.

    Its hard to spin that without looking like you are grasping for straws.

    I will leave you contemplating how to say again its because of the "alternatives" while I laugh :D. Halo and Halo 2 are superb games, and haters can scream "teh casual" and "Gay-lo" all they want, because it does not change the fact that they are great games.

    Not bashing the PS2, mind you, as that was a great system (best of last gen, IMO), but Halo and Halo 2 cemented MS as a player in the console world, and helped the Xbox name gain recognition. 

[QUOTE="doodlebug01206"]If any FPS on the PS3 Outsells halo 3 i will eat my hat.grannyvukka

Timesplitters deserved to, as it was a better game, strictly from a gameplay & fun point

TS1, 2, and 3 are all complete garbage compared to halo.

sales mean nothing.  look at the music industry. 

Halo is the best FPS on a console IMO but if we include the PC well Half-life is far better FPS than Halo actually most FPS on PC is far better than Halo, the reason why it outsold Half-life is because Halo was one of the launch title and no matter much any one here denies it, Halo is the only good exclusive on the xbox, when you bought the xbox what else you would you buy?

[QUOTE="doodlebug01206"]If any FPS on the PS3 Outsells halo 3 i will eat my hat.grannyvukka

Timesplitters deserved to, as it was a better game, strictly from a gameplay &  fun point

MS created 22 MILLION gamers from NOTHING.

if you don't consider that impressive, you're lost.

altho, it's good they did, as the 360 is the #1 console this gen...:)

If lems are to be believed & Halo killed anything on PS2.....Why did Xbox only sell 22million consoles, while PS2 sold 120million.

You can use the PS2 had the already biigger install base cause of the 18 month head start. But if that is the case, then why, even after xbox released did PS2 ousell the xbox consectutively every month even after xbox, halo & GC were released.

As a metter of fact, most months PS2 outsold GC & Xbox combined.

I saw a post on here saying PS2 already 20-30million consoles sold after it's 18mth head start on xbox. If thee are the true figures, the 360 has almsot no chance of rivalling that figure in the same time frame.

Face it lems, Halo, ain't saving nothing again. And this time one of your biggest selling points, NG, is also showing up to party on PS3. You all seem to think little (sales) fish like DMC are gonna account for PS3's downfall, when the exclusives that MS have already lost & will continue to lose when PS3's install base rises more, should be more worrying to you.

Fact is, the reason why PS consoles always win, is because they cater to a bigger, ,more diverse taste in gaming.

And Sony's 1st & 2rd party developers are the ones that do this best. They have taken over from where Nintendo were once king & leaped over them in all respects.

Forget it lems, MS is again sharing last place with Nintendo, while Sony dominates once again.

I guess ol' wile (bill) coyotee is going back to the ol' drawing board with his acme crew, allard & more.

grannyvukka

Most people that own a PS2 are only like 12 anyways......

PS2 = casual gamers

X-Box = hard core gamers

Still.....there are more casuals out there than hard core gamers. But then why is the PS3 not selling? Simple: most casuals dont have HDTVs yet. But when they upgrade, they may choose Sony because they ALWAYS are the console on TV and movies.....

10+ million as opposed to 3 million...

Big words from someone in this position.