TWO reasons that makes the xbox360 consoles sells more ?

Hey guys

i think this is the right place to post this , we all know that the xbox360 is selling more than the ps3

and maybe one reason behind that is that the xbox360 system is weaker than the ps3 , and people can mod it and blay backups and copies .

and lets see , there is ALOT of people in the world who can't afford 60$ per game AND they don't care about online , and these people gets the xbox to enjoy some SP NEW HD games .

and i think that the last time they banned moded consoles they banned 1million ??

the secound reason is thefaliure rate that the xbox360 suffered at the beggining .... lets say you have some good games and you got RROD , you go and buy another one , and there is many of you who bought atleast two ...... !!

i don't know but maybe the xbox weakness did microsoft good .... am i right ?

So I guess you can assume why the PS2 got so many sales is because of..... too.

So I guess you can assume why the PS2 got so many sales is because of..... too.

gago-gago

yeah it benefited the ps2 CONSOLE sales too

and realy its unfair to compete an UNHACKABLE console with a HACKABLE console by sales ..

I'm not sure about those reasons, (you may be right) but I think that an advantage in sales can be self sustaining after a while. I originally bought my xbox360 (which I plan to trade for a PS3) because most of my friends had it, which meant I could play with them online and trade games with them. I know of a few other people who have thought about getting a 360 so as to play with friends more.

to start off, you only need to buy a new 360 if YOU WANT TO, you have the option to use warranty and get it fixed, and if you dont have warranty you can pay 60-80 bucks for it to get repaired, all this BS going on around the net about buying 2 360's are fake, they always have the option to use 3 year warranty or have it repaired

For sure it does help on 360 sales but the good game sales kill that logic a bit. If there were so many hacked consoles, games wouldnt sell as good, right?

Microsoft advertise the games people WANT, and events where there is young people at. Micrsoft would rather advertise alot a call of duty game, than a exclusive, because a call of duty will bring in ALOT of people than a exclusive could now adays

The xbox 360 has been the most consistent console this generation thats why it sells, sure the PS3 (and the wii for that matter) has finally picked up at last but that doesn't change the fact you spent years just waiting while the 360 was well in its stride. The same can be said for the PS2 and the original xbox, sure once the games came out they were more impressive than PS2 games but in that time the PS2 had already won a lot of people over.

You do realise that both of your comspiracy theories kinda contradict the games attach rate of the 360 right? If either one of your theories were right, the 360 probably wounldnt have the best attach rate of the 3. Besides, most of the people I personally know are smart enough to use the 3 year warranty that MS provides but maybe just my friends are smarter than most people, I dunno.

software sales speak otherwise

MS fixes consoles for free if you dont know this and you have and xbox thats your fault

buying a new system just seems retarded imo when they fix for free

johnnyblazed88

Allot of consoles like my launch 360 is out of warranty.

If my 360 broke (knock on wood it don't), I would have one of two choices.

1) sell all my games and devices (I have my guitar games on 360) and give up

-or-

2) buy a new one

What do you think more people do?... especially rabid halo fans?

[QUOTE="johnnyblazed88"]

MS fixes consoles for free if you dont know this and you have and xbox thats your fault

buying a new system just seems retarded imo when they fix for free

FragTycoon

Allot of consoles like my launch 360 is out of warranty.

If my 360 broke (knock on wood it don't), I would have one of two choices.

1) sell all my games and devices (I have my guitar games on 360) and give up

-or-

2) buy a new one

What do you think more people do?... especially rabid halo fans?

oh my god, read my previous post, i said you can get your 360 fixed for 60 bucks if your out of warranty, jeez

[QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

[QUOTE="johnnyblazed88"]

MS fixes consoles for free if you dont know this and you have and xbox thats your fault

buying a new system just seems retarded imo when they fix for free

hyperjayson

Allot of consoles like my launch 360 is out of warranty.

If my 360 broke (knock on wood it don't), I would have one of two choices.

1) sell all my games and devices (I have my guitar games on 360) and give up

-or-

2) buy a new one

What do you think more people do?... especially rabid halo fans?

oh my god, read my previous post, i said you can get your 360 fixed for 60 bucks if your out of warranty, jeez

It would cost more then $60 to ship it from where I am currently not including.

"Q: How much does it cost for an out-of-warranty repair?

A:An out-of-warranty console repair submitted using our Web site costs $99.99. If you call Xbox Support and have an agent create a repair order on your behalf, an out-of-warranty console repair costs $119.99 (plus tax)."

I understand you want to defend a console but "Oh my god" don't make things up please.

Back to my point.... not that there is any real way to tell how many, but people do buy consoles to replace broken out of warranty ones.

That's from my own personal experience, so take it for what it's worth.

[QUOTE="hyperjayson"]

[QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

Allot of consoles like my launch 360 is out of warranty.

If my 360 broke (knock on wood it don't), I would have one of two choices.

1) sell all my games and devices (I have my guitar games on 360) and give up

-or-

2) buy a new one

What do you think more people do?... especially rabid halo fans?

FragTycoon

oh my god, read my previous post, i said you can get your 360 fixed for 60 bucks if your out of warranty, jeez

It would cost more then $60 to ship it from where I am currently not including.

"Q: How much does it cost for an out-of-warranty repair?

A:An out-of-warranty console repair submitted using our Web site costs $99.99. If you call Xbox Support and have an agent create a repair order on your behalf, an out-of-warranty console repair costs $119.99 (plus tax)."

I understand you want to defend a console but "Oh my god" don't make things up please.

Back to my point.... not that there is any real way to tell how many, but people do buy consoles to replace broken out of warranty ones.

That's from my own personal experience, so take it for what it's worth.

????? i got my 360 repaired for 60 bucks at my local tech station, i dont BS, where are you getting 120 bucks?

So then why does the 360 have a higher games per console average also?

[QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

[QUOTE="hyperjayson"]

oh my god, read my previous post, i said you can get your 360 fixed for 60 bucks if your out of warranty, jeez

hyperjayson

It would cost more then $60 to ship it from where I am currently not including.

"Q: How much does it cost for an out-of-warranty repair?

A:An out-of-warranty console repair submitted using our Web site costs $99.99. If you call Xbox Support and have an agent create a repair order on your behalf, an out-of-warranty console repair costs $119.99 (plus tax)."

I understand you want to defend a console but "Oh my god" don't make things up please.

Back to my point.... not that there is any real way to tell how many, but people do buy consoles to replace broken out of warranty ones.

That's from my own personal experience, so take it for what it's worth.

????? i got my 360 repaired for 60 bucks at my local tech station, i dont BS, where are you getting 120 bucks?

http://support.xbox.com/support/en/us/nxe/repairfaqs.aspx#Warranty_FAQ6

I would think more people DON'T live next to a "Tech Station" then people who do.. in what general area do you have a "local tech station" that you can walk into? Do you live in Washington? because I dont.

[QUOTE="hyperjayson"]

[QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

It would cost more then $60 to ship it from where I am currently not including.

"Q: How much does it cost for an out-of-warranty repair?

A:An out-of-warranty console repair submitted using our Web site costs $99.99. If you call Xbox Support and have an agent create a repair order on your behalf, an out-of-warranty console repair costs $119.99 (plus tax)."

I understand you want to defend a console but "Oh my god" don't make things up please.

Back to my point.... not that there is any real way to tell how many, but people do buy consoles to replace broken out of warranty ones.

That's from my own personal experience, so take it for what it's worth.

FragTycoon

????? i got my 360 repaired for 60 bucks at my local tech station, i dont BS, where are you getting 120 bucks?

http://support.xbox.com/support/en/us/nxe/repairfaqs.aspx#Warranty_FAQ6

I would think more people DON'T live next to a "Tech Station" then people who do.. in what general area do you have a "local tech station" that you can walk into? Do you live in Washington? because I dont.

ireland, theres some dude bout 5 blocks away, he used to work in sony repair but got fire or quit or something now he st up a small shop and repairs cellphones,consoles, pc's etc etc

If the system RROD you just send it in and get a new one or have it fixed. Even then, if they replaced the system its not exactly like that is a knock, people replace systems. There are people in SW with more than 1 PS3, 360 wii, DS, gaming PC, PSP etc. As for being weak naw, no one buys a 360 just to mod it (while people do but its not a very significant percentage). Its like saying the reason the DS, PS1 or Wii sold so much was because of easy modicfications, not true at all.

how did that do Microsoft good?

Microsoft isn't worried about the sales differences between the PS3 and 360 like 360/PS3 fanboys do.

Its more attractive among men 18-25ish because of Halo. Which then translates to their friends and family buying one. Which is sad because the PS3 offers so much more if only fanboys weren't so blind.Kokuro_Kun

Halo games sell like 10 milion copies, there are more than 3 times that many 360 units out there. Its not only attractive because of halo. And frankly, 4 years into the life of the PS3, it still lacks its huge exclusive killer app. The amount of games the average person buys will be big name titles, it is not hard to see why the 360 has the edge. And also, the people who buy 360 aren't fanboys in the majority, just people who wanna play some games. Honestly, you are more of a PS3 fanboy for attacking their tastes on a forum while they enjoy their games ;)

I thought It sold well because of its good games

[QUOTE="Kokuro_Kun"]Its more attractive among men 18-25ish because of Halo. Which then translates to their friends and family buying one. Which is sad because the PS3 offers so much more if only fanboys weren't so blind.ActicEdge

Halo games sell like 10 milion copies, there are more than 3 times that many 360 units out there. Its not only attractive because of halo. And frankly, 4 years into the life of the PS3, it still lacks its huge exclusive killer app. The amount of games the average person buys will be big name titles, it is not hard to see why the 360 has the edge. And also, the people who buy 360 aren't fanboys in the majority, just people who wanna play some games. Honestly, you are more of a PS3 fanboy for attacking their tastes on a forum while they enjoy their games ;)

too much logic and reasoning for System Wars, eh? gonna have to give you a ticket.

i think this is the right place to post this , we all know that the xbox360 is selling more than the ps3 and maybe one reason behind that is that the xbox360 system is weaker than the ps3 , and people can mod it and blay backups and copies .

and lets see , there is ALOT of people in the world who can't afford 60$ per game AND they don't care about online , and these people gets the xbox to enjoy some SP NEW HD games .

and i think that the last time they banned moded consoles they banned 1million ??

the secound reason is thefaliure rate that the xbox360 suffered at the beggining .... lets say you have some good games and you got RROD , you go and buy another one , and there is many of you who bought atleast two ...... !!

i don't know but maybe the xbox weakness did microsoft good .... am i right ?harrypotter_fan

I disagree.

Microsoft released their console earlier than Sony, cheaper than Sony and with a bigger library than Sony. The short of it is that they got in first this gen and cornered most of the market. Plus achievements vs trophies has created a higher level of console loyalty than I've seen before. They also scored some of the biggest grossing exclusive titles (yes I know they're shared with PC

Also what's $60 per game got to do with it? Not sure what it's like outside Aus but prices here are pretty much comparable now.

With regards to your second reason I think the X360's RRoD worked to it's disadvantage more than it's benefit.

Lastly, innovation, pricing and marketing will always win you sales. Throw Nintendo into the console mix and your above arguments fail :)

[QUOTE="hyperjayson"]

[QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

Allot of consoles like my launch 360 is out of warranty.

If my 360 broke (knock on wood it don't), I would have one of two choices.

1) sell all my games and devices (I have my guitar games on 360) and give up

-or-

2) buy a new one

What do you think more people do?... especially rabid halo fans?

FragTycoon

oh my god, read my previous post, i said you can get your 360 fixed for 60 bucks if your out of warranty, jeez

It would cost more then $60 to ship it from where I am currently not including.

"Q: How much does it cost for an out-of-warranty repair?

A:An out-of-warranty console repair submitted using our Web site costs $99.99. If you call Xbox Support and have an agent create a repair order on your behalf, an out-of-warranty console repair costs $119.99 (plus tax)."

I understand you want to defend a console but "Oh my god" don't make things up please.

Back to my point.... not that there is any real way to tell how many, but people do buy consoles to replace broken out of warranty ones.

That's from my own personal experience, so take it for what it's worth.

Its more attractive among men 18-25ish because of Halo. Which then translates to their friends and family buying one. Which is sad because the PS3 offers so much more if only fanboys weren't so blind.Kokuro_Kun

to start off, you only need to buy a new 360 if YOU WANT TO, you have the option to use warranty and get it fixed, and if you dont have warranty you can pay 60-80 bucks for it to get repaired, all this BS going on around the net about buying 2 360's are fake, they always have the option to use 3 year warranty or have it repaired

hyperjayson

I bought it cause it has good games, just like my PS3 and nintendo wii.

keep telling yourself that TC, to justify your parent's purchase of your ps3...

Becouse games and live. So simple.

I got mine because of the games too.

I've had RROD 3 times now and got my system replaced free each time since it was under warrenty. Though as my little kids get older (now 3 & 4 years old) and more than likely will want to play with Kinect when it comes out with Kinectanimals and the wife with In Shape Fitness Evolved. I will probably get to play the xbox less and less so thinking of getting an xbox slim just for myself and the old xbox for my wife and kids.

NEWSFLASH..... the 360 sells more only in the united states, overseas the ps3 trumps the 360. and by the way, in 2009 more ps3s were sold in the usa then 360s so i dont know what the hell your talking about.

Hey guys

[Sony fanboy fanfic...]

the xbox360 system is weaker than the ps3 ....

[more Sony fanboy fanfic...]

harrypotter_fan

So thats why 95% of the multiplats look and run better on the 360, including a few where PS3 was lead platform??

heres what the sw folks tend to forget about the 360, it's everywhere. i can't think of popular media that does not show it in the background.

i have seen 360s in the simpsons, family guy, south park, mad tv, movies, you name it.

start watching the backgrounds of sit coms, television commercials, dramas, and almost anything else media related.

the ps3 has turned into a persona non grata as far as popular entertainment goes.

heres what the sw folks tend to forget about the 360, it's everywhere. i can't think of popular media that does not show it in the background.

i have seen 360s in the simpsons, family guy, south park, mad tv, movies, you name it.

start watching the backgrounds of sit coms, television commercials, dramas, and almost anything else media related.

the ps3 has turned into a persona non grata as far as popular entertainment goes.

Riverwolf007

Well it is true that 360 users rebuy their consoles. I have plenty of friends with 360's and they do stuff like buy a 360 S just because its an upgrade or buy a 360 just to mod it. Just that's not really a reasonable excuse. A more reasonable excuse would be that the 360 got a year head start which effects hardware sales/ game sales/ developer relationships etc. Nonstop-Madness

yeah, that's definitely not a reasonable excuse. you act like plenty of ps3 users didn't upgrade when the ps3 slim was released. the year head start excuse is not holding up anymore either, it's over half way through 2010 and the ps3 is still behind by 5-6 million units sold.

[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]Well it is true that 360 users rebuy their consoles. I have plenty of friends with 360's and they do stuff like buy a 360 S just because its an upgrade or buy a 360 just to mod it. Just that's not really a reasonable excuse. A more reasonable excuse would be that the 360 got a year head start which effects hardware sales/ game sales/ developer relationships etc. lazerface216

yeah, that's definitely not a reasonable excuse. you act like plenty of ps3 users didn't upgrade when the ps3 slim was released. the year head start excuse is not holding up anymore either, it's over half way through 2010 and the ps3 is still behind by 5-6 million units sold.

I thought it sold more simply because more people wanted to buy one?

No need for fanboy rationalizations - things sell MORE because MORE people want them.

And this will really blow your mind... THE WII SELLS MORE BECAUSE MORE PEOPLE WANTED TO PURCHASE IT THAN THE 360 & PS3 :shock:

[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]Well it is true that 360 users rebuy their consoles. I have plenty of friends with 360's and they do stuff like buy a 360 S just because its an upgrade or buy a 360 just to mod it. Just that's not really a reasonable excuse. A more reasonable excuse would be that the 360 got a year head start which effects hardware sales/ game sales/ developer relationships etc. Nonstop-Madness

yeah, that's definitely not a reasonable excuse. you act like plenty of ps3 users didn't upgrade when the ps3 slim was released. the year head start excuse is not holding up anymore either, it's over half way through 2010 and the ps3 is still behind by 5-6 million units sold.

never had rrod so i dont know about u but for me if my 360 breaks i hav warrenty i wont buy one they will fix it for me for free

[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]Well it is true that 360 users rebuy their consoles. I have plenty of friends with 360's and they do stuff like buy a 360 S just because its an upgrade or buy a 360 just to mod it. Just that's not really a reasonable excuse. A more reasonable excuse would be that the 360 got a year head start which effects hardware sales/ game sales/ developer relationships etc. Nonstop-Madness

yeah, that's definitely not a reasonable excuse. you act like plenty of ps3 users didn't upgrade when the ps3 slim was released. the year head start excuse is not holding up anymore either, it's over half way through 2010 and the ps3 is still behind by 5-6 million units sold.