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#1 ThisCurse
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I recently came across a magazine ad for Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six : Vegas 2, at the bottom it said "Infiltrating Next Gen and PC"

It kinda sucks that Nintendo will be missing a lot of big titles like they did with the Gamecube last gen. And last gen there was no reason for it becuase the GC was in the same leauge with PS2 and Xbox. Now, not only are liscensing issues stopping good games from coming to Wii, but the hardware is so last gen, its techinologically impossible to develop games for this system correctly.

Makes me glad I sold my Wii for $530 used

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I recently came across a magazine ad for Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six : Vegas 2, at the bottom it said "Infiltrating Next Gen and PC"

It kinda sucks that Nintendo will be missing a lot of big titles like they did with the Gamecube last gen. And last gen there was no reason for it becuase the GC was in the same leauge with PS2 and Xbox. Now, not only are liscensing issues stopping good games from coming to Wii, but the hardware is so last gen, its techinologically impossible to develop games for this system correctly.

Makes me glad I sold my Wii for $530 used

ThisCurse

You're happy cause you play "next-gen rehashes."

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#3 TekkenMaster606
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It is old technology. I think a Radeon 8500 could perform better than whatever ATI put in the Wii. Now, look at what you've done. We're going to see pages and pages of sheep telling us bad graphics on the Wii is "old flamebait".
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#4 Devouring_One
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thats funny because ubisoft likes making games for the wii

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#5 Jaysonguy
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You minuderstood the meaning

It happens, no worries

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[QUOTE="ThisCurse"]

I recently came across a magazine ad for Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six : Vegas 2, at the bottom it said "Infiltrating Next Gen and PC"

It kinda sucks that Nintendo will be missing a lot of big titles like they did with the Gamecube last gen. And last gen there was no reason for it becuase the GC was in the same leauge with PS2 and Xbox. Now, not only are liscensing issues stopping good games from coming to Wii, but the hardware is so last gen, its techinologically impossible to develop games for this system correctly.

Makes me glad I sold my Wii for $530 used

Marth6781

You're happy cause you play "next-gen rehashes."

Yeah and all of Nintendo's games are original and new IP's. :roll:
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[QUOTE="ThisCurse"]

I recently came across a magazine ad for Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six : Vegas 2, at the bottom it said "Infiltrating Next Gen and PC"

It kinda sucks that Nintendo will be missing a lot of big titles like they did with the Gamecube last gen. And last gen there was no reason for it becuase the GC was in the same leauge with PS2 and Xbox. Now, not only are liscensing issues stopping good games from coming to Wii, but the hardware is so last gen, its techinologically impossible to develop games for this system correctly.

Makes me glad I sold my Wii for $530 used

Marth6781

You're happy cause you play "next-gen rehashes."

It is better than playing "last-gen rehashes."

No I didn't!

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#8 Dibdibdobdobo
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I'm sure everyone in the world can last without Ubisofts 2nd rate FPS's on there systems.

Rainbow 6: Vegas 2 is terrible and glitchy!

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#9 Hewkii
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"Infiltrating" doesn't mean "completely".
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#10 Nagidar
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Well, its kinda true, aside from the controller, the hardware in the Wii is old.

EDIT: Let me add, all the consoles are old tech., but the Wii is just older. If that makes any sense. lol

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#11 tbone29
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Ubisoft :lol:
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#12 Marth6781
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[QUOTE="Marth6781"][QUOTE="ThisCurse"]

I recently came across a magazine ad for Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six : Vegas 2, at the bottom it said "Infiltrating Next Gen and PC"

It kinda sucks that Nintendo will be missing a lot of big titles like they did with the Gamecube last gen. And last gen there was no reason for it becuase the GC was in the same leauge with PS2 and Xbox. Now, not only are liscensing issues stopping good games from coming to Wii, but the hardware is so last gen, its techinologically impossible to develop games for this system correctly.

Makes me glad I sold my Wii for $530 used

Aljosa23

You're happy cause you play "next-gen rehashes."

Yeah and all of Nintendo's games are original and new IP's. :roll:

Didnt say they were.

But i you want to bash for being "last gen" ill play my last gen games while you play your rehashes.

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#13 dream431ca
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The Wii IS old technology.
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#14 deactivated-59d151f079814
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Ubisoft was only half correct.. Because every console is old technology by today's standards... Xbox's and PS3's video cards for instance are now 2 generations behind with the new release of the 9800 series.
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#15 sexy_chimp
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Wow, Ubisoft sure is fast on this stuff. As if I didn't know that over a year ago.

And I can't stand Ubisoft. They have plenty of money to advertise all of their shovelware (Horsez, Dogz) but not enough to advertise a good game like No More Heroes? Ugh, screw you Ubisoft.

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[QUOTE="Marth6781"][QUOTE="ThisCurse"]

I recently came across a magazine ad for Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six : Vegas 2, at the bottom it said "Infiltrating Next Gen and PC"

It kinda sucks that Nintendo will be missing a lot of big titles like they did with the Gamecube last gen. And last gen there was no reason for it becuase the GC was in the same leauge with PS2 and Xbox. Now, not only are liscensing issues stopping good games from coming to Wii, but the hardware is so last gen, its techinologically impossible to develop games for this system correctly.

Makes me glad I sold my Wii for $530 used

HappyAppe

You're happy cause you play "next-gen rehashes."

It is better than playing "last-gen rehashes."

No I didn't!

wow major ownage.

But my opinion thats why ubi likes working on wii, cuz theyre already used to working on LAST GEN CONSOLES. :D
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#17 Anti-Gamer
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That's why it's called Kidtendo WiiHash. :lol:

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#18 TekkenMaster606
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The technology on the inside of the Wii-mote is nothing new outside of the video game world. It's implementation inside the controller may be something we've never seen before. Well, sort of...

This controller release in 1998 used tilt to detect movement. Not as complicated as the Wiimote but it did use motion as a control method.

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#19 nintendofreak_2
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They're only mad because they can't make a good serious Wii game.
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#20 MetroidPrimePwn
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This just in: Ubisoft says the sun is a star
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#21 JLF1
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The technology on the inside of the Wii-mote is nothing new outside of the video game world. It's implementation inside the controller may be something we've never seen before. Well, sort of...

This controller release in 1998 used tilt to detect movement. Not as complicated as the Wiimote but it did use motion as a control method.

TekkenMaster606

It's about the same argument lemmings have with online.They claim Xbox was the first console with online even though Genesis had that 10 years earlier.
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#22 TekkenMaster606
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They're only mad because they can't make a good serious Wii game.nintendofreak_2

When you can sell hundreds of thousands of copies of Dogz and Catz with minimal effort why even bother?

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#23 Dibdibdobdobo
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They're only mad because they can't make a good serious Wii game.nintendofreak_2

I would rephrase that too... They cannot make good games fullstop.

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#24 nintendofreak_2
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I would rephrase that too... They cannot make good games fullstop.

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Well Raving Rabbids was actually pretty good (the first one, but it wasn't a 'serious' game).
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#25 JLF1
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[QUOTE="nintendofreak_2"]They're only mad because they can't make a good serious Wii game.Dibdibdobdobo

I would rephrase that too... They cannot make good games fullstop.


Try Beyond Good & Evil, it's and excellent and underrated game that everyone should try.
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if you have wii you miss out on a lot of games. if you dont have a wii you only really miss out on firsty party games and a cupple 3 partys thats it
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#27 ThisCurse
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Im not meaning to point out Ubisoft, I was only making one example of a game that Wii wont get. And NO, I dont even want to play RSV2, again, just an example of one less choice Wii owners have. I got so angry last gen when new kickass games would come out and rarely were they available for the Gamecube. Sorry Nintendo, I just cant go through that again.
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[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]

I would rephrase that too... They cannot make good games fullstop.

nintendofreak_2
Well Raving Rabbids was actually pretty good (the first one, but it wasn't a 'serious' game).

dont forget No More Heroes
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PS3, 360 and Wii are old technology. Unless you have the newest components on your PC the moment its available, shush.
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All consoles use "old" technology. :|
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[QUOTE="Marth6781"][QUOTE="ThisCurse"]

I recently came across a magazine ad for Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six : Vegas 2, at the bottom it said "Infiltrating Next Gen and PC"

It kinda sucks that Nintendo will be missing a lot of big titles like they did with the Gamecube last gen. And last gen there was no reason for it becuase the GC was in the same leauge with PS2 and Xbox. Now, not only are liscensing issues stopping good games from coming to Wii, but the hardware is so last gen, its techinologically impossible to develop games for this system correctly.

Makes me glad I sold my Wii for $530 used

HappyAppe

You're happy cause you play "next-gen rehashes."

It is better than playing "last-gen rehashes."

No I didn't!

oh snap
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#32 deadmeat59
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All consoles use "old" technology. :|Erkidu
yeah blu ray xrd ram and hdmi are so old and out dated
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All, I would of agreed if they said ancient technology. Oh well. :P
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PS3, 360 and Wii are old technology. Unless you have the newest components on your PC the moment its available, shush.AntiType

A lousy comparison.

We all know you can not update your console every year like you can with your PC. But clearly the Wii is behind the console standard in terms of hardware.

That does mean it has bad games. But its not a system a lot of gamers have much interest in, some do, but its not the dominant force in gaming from a gamers perspective.

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[QUOTE="nintendofreak_2"][QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]

I would rephrase that too... They cannot make good games fullstop.

air_wolf_cubed
Well Raving Rabbids was actually pretty good (the first one, but it wasn't a 'serious' game).

dont forget No More Heroes

Ubisoft had nothing to do with it they didn't make the game. Maverlous and Grasshopper Manufacture own the rights to No More Heroes, and Nintendofreak_2 I agree I think Ubisoft Montpellier (spelling?) should be the only division that makes games for the Wii since it was the only Ubisoft in House game that was actually good on the Wii. I just hope they make a serious game I heard that they were making an FPS for the Wii.
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So Ubisoft states that the Wii utilises old technology yet they cannot make a game that has good graphics for a Wii game. Did Ubisoft just deliver testament to their crappiness? They certainly did!

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#37 lordxymor
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PS3, 360 and Wii are old technology. Unless you have the newest components on your PC the moment its available, shush.AntiType

That is true indeed, but the Wii is one generation behind, like Ps3 and 360 will be one generation behind when DX11 with ray-tracing support is released later this year.

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Calling the Wii "old technology" is an insult to old technology... >_>

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[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="nintendofreak_2"][QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]

I would rephrase that too... They cannot make good games fullstop.

Nintendo_Ownes7

Well Raving Rabbids was actually pretty good (the first one, but it wasn't a 'serious' game).

dont forget No More Heroes

Ubisoft had nothing to do with it they didn't make the game. Maverlous and Grasshopper Manufacture own the rights to No More Heroes, and Nintendofreak_2 I agree I think Ubisoft Montpellier (spelling?) should be the only division that makes games for the Wii since it was the only Ubisoft in House game that was actually good on the Wii. I just hope they make a serious game I heard that they were making an FPS for the Wii.

The Wii-really is not that good for FPS.

Dead zones and the ability to easily point the Wii-mote out of detection make it only viable for people who are unwilling or unable to use mouse+keys(ideal) or dual analogs(functional).

And NMH is such over-rated crap and a casual game. It is all slamming hte A button until you are prompted with a big fat arrow on your screen witch way to flick your wrist (casuals dont like complicated controls) and its one giant mini game with some mildly amusing boss battles.

I have seen way to many reviews that praised NMH and totally left out all the crap they bash other gamers for. How many enemy's are there in that game? 4 or 5 types? Not that they fight different any way. Was the worst pop-up around part of the so called stylish visuals?

The sales campaign that people started is the saddest thing to happen in SW in a long long time. And it wont be out done anytime soon.

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#40 Coyo7e
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So Ubisoft states that the Wii utilises old technology yet they cannot make a game that has good graphics for a Wii game. Did Ubisoft just deliver testament to their crappiness? They certainly did!

Hexagon_777

Why go out of your way when people will buy it regardless?

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[QUOTE="nintendofreak_2"]They're only mad because they can't make a good serious Wii game.TekkenMaster606

When you can sell hundreds of thousands of copies of Dogz and Catz with minimal effort why even bother?

You're sure about that? Got proof to that statement? Only Red Steel (bad game but big budget flop) and Rayman sold well.
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[QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"][QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="nintendofreak_2"]

Well Raving Rabbids was actually pretty good (the first one, but it wasn't a 'serious' game).Coyo7e

dont forget No More Heroes

Ubisoft had nothing to do with it they didn't make the game. Maverlous and Grasshopper Manufacture own the rights to No More Heroes, and Nintendofreak_2 I agree I think Ubisoft Montpellier (spelling?) should be the only division that makes games for the Wii since it was the only Ubisoft in House game that was actually good on the Wii. I just hope they make a serious game I heard that they were making an FPS for the Wii.

The Wii-really is not that good for FPS.

Dead zones and the ability to easily point the Wii-mote out of detection make it only viable for people who are unwilling or unable to use mouse+keys(ideal) or dual analogs(functional).

And NMH is such over-rated crap and a casual game. It is all slamming hte A button until you are prompted with a big fat arrow on your screen witch way to flick your wrist (casuals dont like complicated controls) and its one giant mini game with some mildly amusing boss battles.

I have seen way to many reviews that praised NMH and totally left out all the crap they bash other gamers for. How many enemy's are there in that game? 4 or 5 types? Not that they fight different any way. Was the worst pop-up around part of the so called stylish visuals?

The sales campaign that people started is the saddest thing to happen in SW in a long long time. And it wont be out done anytime soon.


The WII-mote is a more realistic way of playing FPSs you know. Just because you can move faster and more accurate with a mouse it's not in any way more realistic. I don't now why hermits claim that FPSs on PC are more realistic and then stick with the good old M/K?
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Calling the Wii "old technology" is an insult to old technology... >_>

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Theres nothing thats old in the Wii that also isnt old on the 360/PS3.

Its CPU and GPU are definitely very modern. Their focus wasnt just on processing power. There was no CPU/GPU combination at the that provided the processing power the Wii had with such low power consumption, at the time of its release.

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[QUOTE="Coyo7e"][QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"][QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="nintendofreak_2"]

Well Raving Rabbids was actually pretty good (the first one, but it wasn't a 'serious' game).JLF1

dont forget No More Heroes

Ubisoft had nothing to do with it they didn't make the game. Maverlous and Grasshopper Manufacture own the rights to No More Heroes, and Nintendofreak_2 I agree I think Ubisoft Montpellier (spelling?) should be the only division that makes games for the Wii since it was the only Ubisoft in House game that was actually good on the Wii. I just hope they make a serious game I heard that they were making an FPS for the Wii.

The Wii-really is not that good for FPS.

Dead zones and the ability to easily point the Wii-mote out of detection make it only viable for people who are unwilling or unable to use mouse+keys(ideal) or dual analogs(functional).

And NMH is such over-rated crap and a casual game. It is all slamming hte A button until you are prompted with a big fat arrow on your screen witch way to flick your wrist (casuals dont like complicated controls) and its one giant mini game with some mildly amusing boss battles.

I have seen way to many reviews that praised NMH and totally left out all the crap they bash other gamers for. How many enemy's are there in that game? 4 or 5 types? Not that they fight different any way. Was the worst pop-up around part of the so called stylish visuals?

The sales campaign that people started is the saddest thing to happen in SW in a long long time. And it wont be out done anytime soon.


The WII-mote is a more realistic way of playing FPSs you know. Just because you can move faster and more accurate with a mouse it's not in any way more realistic. I don't now why hermits claim that FPSs on PC are more realistic and then stick with the good old M/K?

There is nothing realistic about useing the Wii-mote IMO. And that is all that can be said about that, its an individual opinion as to weather you find it to present a certain amount of realism.

I personally find superior visuals and sound (the wii has sound that is more out of date then its visuals. Both the xbox and ps2 supported 5.1 dolby) to be vastly more immersive then anything the controller can provide.

The most important thing to me about control is that I do not have to think about it at all.

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#46 m_machine024
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[QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"][QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="nintendofreak_2"][QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]

I would rephrase that too... They cannot make good games fullstop.

Coyo7e

Well Raving Rabbids was actually pretty good (the first one, but it wasn't a 'serious' game).

dont forget No More Heroes

Ubisoft had nothing to do with it they didn't make the game. Maverlous and Grasshopper Manufacture own the rights to No More Heroes, and Nintendofreak_2 I agree I think Ubisoft Montpellier (spelling?) should be the only division that makes games for the Wii since it was the only Ubisoft in House game that was actually good on the Wii. I just hope they make a serious game I heard that they were making an FPS for the Wii.

The Wii-really is not that good for FPS.

Dead zones and the ability to easily point the Wii-mote out of detection make it only viable for people who are unwilling or unable to use mouse+keys(ideal) or dual analogs(functional).

And how isn't the wiimote functional? You say dual analogs are but didn't say it about the wiimote. Imo the wiimote has the most intuitive FPS control, just not the accurate (mouse). And I prefer strafing with the analog stick than with keys.

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#47 TanKLoveR
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Yay for the wiihater at ubiport :lol:
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#48 Coyo7e
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[QUOTE="Coyo7e"][QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"][QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="nintendofreak_2"][QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]

I would rephrase that too... They cannot make good games fullstop.

m_machine024

Well Raving Rabbids was actually pretty good (the first one, but it wasn't a 'serious' game).

dont forget No More Heroes

Ubisoft had nothing to do with it they didn't make the game. Maverlous and Grasshopper Manufacture own the rights to No More Heroes, and Nintendofreak_2 I agree I think Ubisoft Montpellier (spelling?) should be the only division that makes games for the Wii since it was the only Ubisoft in House game that was actually good on the Wii. I just hope they make a serious game I heard that they were making an FPS for the Wii.

The Wii-really is not that good for FPS.

Dead zones and the ability to easily point the Wii-mote out of detection make it only viable for people who are unwilling or unable to use mouse+keys(ideal) or dual analogs(functional).

And how isn't the wiimote functional? You say dual analogs are but didn't say it about the wiimote. Imo the wiimote has the most intuitive FPS control, just not the accurate (mouse). And I prefer strafing with the analog stick than with keys.

Its not raelly functional for a good FPS because it requires a dead zone. Meaning, you dont keep your cursor centered on your movement. Dead zones make for bad game-play outside of non traditional FPS like MP3.

It is a good controller, just not good for FPS like every thought it would be. You could make a wii-game that has no dead zone, but then "falling off" the screen would be a common and unforgiving error in MP matchs.

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#49 Coyo7e
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Yay for the wiihater at ubiport :lol:TanKLoveR

Becauase unless you kiss the Wii's ass and only praise it, you are a hater.

I am sure they dont hate the money they make creating half assed games for the casuals that own the system.

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#50 HappyAppe
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I don't understand how anyone could own soley a Wii. I feel like you'd be missing out on so much.