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#1 HarlockJC
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Ubisoft will begin to distance itself from hardcore shooters from this point forward because it no longer sees the genre as a moneymaker. Is this the future of Ubisoft?

Is this the future of Ubisoft?

Ubisoft game designer Phil Therien said his company would limit the amount of development time given to hardcore FPS games in the future because they no longer make enough money to be a viable business practice.

This isn't to say Ubisoft will completely eliminate the genre from its portfolio, but Therien did admit that the market for shooters was "too narrow" to pursue as vehemently as it had been in the past.

Therein made the admonition during a LiveText Interview with Eurogamer.net late last week. He said Ubisoft would like to be able to please both sides but "compromises have to be made" (he possibly meant hardcore and their cousins the "casual gamers," but this isn't made clear in the interview).

"We have some ideas to improve on the situation though - keep in mind however that we want our games to be accessible to as many people as possible, otherwise we just couldn't keep making games," he said.

The remarks aren't a total surprise coming from Ubisoft. Keep in mind that 2006-2007 were banner years for the developer thanks in part to the success of its software on the Wii.

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#2 f50p90
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This is the best news I have heard in a while. Less FPS, more of other genres
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#3 HarlockJC
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This is the best news I have heard in a while. Less FPS, more of other genresf50p90

agreed

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#4 beast667
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Wow, thats probably not going to pan out.

I dont care what they do as long as they make another Assassins Creed at some point. I cant figure out why every one hates that game, i thought it was amazing.

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#5 SpruceCaboose
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FPS games are the genre I prefer the most, so this is somewhat sad to me, but I don't see how the market is not making money. Big name FPS games sell. Its the poorly done games that don't make much money, and rightfully so, IMO.
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#6 Heydanbud92
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yesssss!

If they did this, I wouldn't hate them anymore!

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#7 Cedmln
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[QUOTE="f50p90"]This is the best news I have heard in a while. Less FPS, more of other genresHarlockJC

agreed

I'm with you guys on this one. :)

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#8 SpruceCaboose
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Wow, thats probably not going to pan out.

I dont care what they do as long as they make another Assassins Creed at some point. I cant figure out why every one hates that game, i thought it was amazing.

beast667

I liked AC for a while, but then the repetition started to wear thin to me.

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#9 mingo123
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has UBISOFT really made any good FPS other then Far Cry and Rainbow Six Vegas?

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#10 naval
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from the link it seems they are steering clear of hardcore shooters and would just be concentrating other types shooters so they wil still be making shooters like Rainbox Six Vegas etc
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#11 Cute_Red_Panda
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*claps* There you go Ubisoft. Push yourself to new heights.
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#12 BioShockOwnz
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What good shooters do they publish? Clancy games are not good, so they don't count. Far Cry 2....what else?
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#13 beast667
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[QUOTE="beast667"]

Wow, thats probably not going to pan out.

I dont care what they do as long as they make another Assassins Creed at some point. I cant figure out why every one hates that game, i thought it was amazing.

SpruceCaboose

I liked AC for a while, but then the repetition started to wear thin to me.

I loved every bit of it. I did every mission except for the flags, and it never felt to repetative to me. I played the game starting with pretty low expectations, though, seeing the way everyone talks about it.
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has UBISOFT really made any good FPS other then Far Cry and Rainbow Six Vegas?

mingo123

they didnt make far cry.

you guys make me laugh so much. thank you

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#15 SpruceCaboose
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[QUOTE="mingo123"]

has UBISOFT really made any good FPS other then Far Cry and Rainbow Six Vegas?

jaisimar_chelse

they didnt make far cry.

you guys make me laugh so much. thank you

They published it, which I think was where the misunderstanding came from.

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#16 HarlockJC
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I wonder if this will changed based on Haze and Red Steel 2 sales
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#17 Chutebox
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I wonder if this will changed based on Haze and Red Steel 2 salesHarlockJC

This has been bugging me for a while, where the hell is your sig from?

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#18 foxhound_fox
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:lol:

It's only "too narrow" because they are not creative enough to come up with new ideas and expand the genre. Good thing there are developers like GSC Game World.
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[QUOTE="mingo123"]

has UBISOFT really made any good FPS other then Far Cry and Rainbow Six Vegas?

jaisimar_chelse

they didnt make far cry.

you guys make me laugh so much. thank you

i know duhhh they publish games.....its the same thing as saying EA makes games :|, but then this whole thread is wrong i guess....:| geeezzzz

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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]I wonder if this will changed based on Haze and Red Steel 2 salesChutebox

This has been bugging me for a while, where the hell is your sig from?

You are the forth person to ask me that today....LOL

It from a Zelda fan movie

Link to the trailer

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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]I wonder if this will changed based on Haze and Red Steel 2 salesChutebox

This has been bugging me for a while, where the hell is your sig from?

In one thread they had a trailer that was from a Legend of Zelda Movie probably fake and he decided to put it in his sig to see if people think it is real.
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]I wonder if this will changed based on Haze and Red Steel 2 salesNintendo_Ownes7

This has been bugging me for a while, where the hell is your sig from?

In one thread they had a trailer that was from a Legend of Zelda Movie probably fake and he decided to put it in his sig to see if people think it is real.

I have found more info about it from that time. There is a real fan based Zelda movie being worked on.

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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]I wonder if this will changed based on Haze and Red Steel 2 salesHarlockJC

This has been bugging me for a while, where the hell is your sig from?

You are the forth person to ask me that today....LOL

It from a Zelda fan movie

Link to the trailer

Thanks lol.

I've always been wondering, but was too lazy to ask.

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#24 akif22
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good news

we already have too many FPSs

hopefully they'll make more action-adventure games in the vein of POP and AC

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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]I wonder if this will changed based on Haze and Red Steel 2 salesHarlockJC

This has been bugging me for a while, where the hell is your sig from?

You are the forth person to ask me that today....LOL

It from a Zelda fan movie

Link to the trailer

Wow, that trailer looks like crap. One thing I don't understand though, Links hair looks like a different color in your sig than in the trailer.

And Ubisoft didn't even make any great first person shooters. At least, not until Far Cry 2 comes out.

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#26 foxhound_fox
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Wow, that trailer looks like crap.DragonfireXZ95

Guess you've never actually seen a low-budget fan-film before? This looks good and quite well made.
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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]Wow, that trailer looks like crap.foxhound_fox

Guess you've never actually seen a low-budget fan-film before? This looks good and quite well made.

I've seen a DBZ one which was pretty well made. But they could have done a much better job with that trailer, like using actual Zelda music for instance.

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#28 foxhound_fox
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I've seen a DBZ one which was pretty well made. But they could have done a much better job with that trailer, like using actual Zelda music for instance.DragonfireXZ95

That would have infringed Nintendo's copyright. ;)
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#29 Hulkness
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Do you guys realise stuff like this is bad news whether you like FPS or not. Seeing a company that made pretty good games change from that just because of money is not good. Were going to see more stuff like this as developers realize stupid games like Rock Band sell more than great games like Bioshock sad but true.
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#30 razu_gamer2
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yet they are shoving brothers in arms 30 to Wii and making Red steel 2 for Wii??
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#31 splinter-OP
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Oh come on Ubisoft at least give us a new GR game, but nothing of this GRAW crap, a real Ghost Recon.
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I think it's because of the PS3 and Haze. It probably was a pain for them so thats why after Haze they'll slow their roll.

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#33 HarlockJC
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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]I've seen a DBZ one which was pretty well made. But they could have done a much better job with that trailer, like using actual Zelda music for instance.foxhound_fox

That would have infringed Nintendo's copyright. ;)

And name a movie Zelda that is about Link would not infringe on the same copyright?

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#34 PBSnipes
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Makes sense. They already have their own (lucrative) niche in the quasi-tactical genre with Rainbow Six and GRAW, so there really isn't any point in spending resources on a product that will compete with those 2 franchises.
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#35 NSR34GTR
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well their is a lot of fps out now
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#36 mlbslugger86
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ubisoft hasn't really made much FPS besides the ghost recon series before advanced warfighter, and rainbow six...
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#37 HarlockJC
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well their is a lot of fps out nowNSR34GTR

That is what I get out of this more than anything. I don't think they are saying there is no money in FPS. Just that there is too many of them and it hard to compete. Look at last year they were pushing them out crazy.

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He also explained that four-player co-op was reduced to two-player because the single-player levels couldn't easily support four players.

:S

It seems 4 play co-op was an after thought apparently.

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Sounds like more Rayman party games and less BIA :| That would suck.
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Why do you keep referring to them as "hardcore FPS". I fail to see what exactly makes FPS games so "hardcore". Especially considering that casual gamers practically play nothing BUT FPS. Everything about the FPS genre, from the minimal story/plot, to the shiny graphics showcase, to the twitch gameplay and explosions and blood, are all EXACTLY what casual gamers love and support.

Yet people keep referring to FPS as being hardcore.

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#41 the_h_bomb
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they should stop making games period. They are the worst company in the world
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[QUOTE="f50p90"]This is the best news I have heard in a while. Less FPS, more of other genresHarlockJC

agreed

You think Activision will stop making Call of Duty or Microsoft stop making Halo games? :lol:

Just because it's not profitable for UbiSoft, doesn't mean it unprofitable for other developers. I would like to see UbiSoft make some decent RPG titles or even venture into the sports area.

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#43 monie11k
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Why do you keep referring to them as "hardcore FPS". I fail to see what exactly makes FPS games so "hardcore". Especially considering that casual gamers practically play nothing BUT FPS. Everything about the FPS genre, from the minimal story/plot, to the shiny graphics showcase, to the twitch gameplay and explosions and blood, are all EXACTLY what casual gamers love and support.

Yet people keep referring to FPS as being hardcore.

ZIMdoom

just look at the first Rainbow Six and the latest one, i dont think the everyday casual fps gamer would like the original.

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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]I wonder if this will changed based on Haze and Red Steel 2 salesHarlockJC

This has been bugging me for a while, where the hell is your sig from?

You are the forth person to ask me that today....LOL

It from a Zelda fan movie

Link to the trailer

lol looks boring
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#45 jg4xchamp
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Thank god all they were doing were rehashing(rainbow six vegas) or making more casualized versions of good franchises like Ghost Recon. Or publishing something completely bland Haze(time will tell, but im betting on bland).

NOw bring on the Assassins Creed, Prince of Persia, Beyond good and Evil, SPlintercell, etc type games. The new ips, cant wait to see what Ubisoft is gonna start pumping out.
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#46 wemhim
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I love it how they basically admit they're nothing more than a greedy corporation that JUST wants money.
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#47 HarlockJC
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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]

[QUOTE="f50p90"]This is the best news I have heard in a while. Less FPS, more of other genresblackace

agreed

You think Activision will stop making Call of Duty or Microsoft stop making Halo games? :lol:

Just because it's not profitable for UbiSoft, doesn't mean it unprofitable for other developers. I would like to see UbiSoft make some decent RPG titles or even venture into the sports area.

No I am just saying as a gaming fan I would like more other types of games. Because I am not a huge FPS fan. Try not reading more into people's comments than what there.

I rather have more point and clicks or RPGs than FPS. Is that saying I expect Activision to stop making COD games?

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[QUOTE="f50p90"]This is the best news I have heard in a while. Less FPS, more of other genresHarlockJC

agreed

Don't sound too happy. If they are steering away from FPSs imagine how much more less mainstream genres are going to get ignored.
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And name a movie Zelda that is about Link would not infringe on the same copyright?HarlockJC

I am pretty sure there is a difference between music and name/likeness. As long as the likeness/name copyright holders are referenced I believe it is "okay" but I am not sure what is the procedure with music.
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#50 zero9167
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thats great. i bet they move onto the action adventure genre now >_>