Uncharted 3 is NOT as polished as Geow3.... Here's Why

1.) the UC3 character animation is very lacking compared to UC2 & Geow3. the ND forums are flooded with complaints about animation

2.) the camera work in UC3 doesn't portray real momentum, especially when sprinting. Geow3 looks so good because the camera shakes perfectly without nausiating and motion blur is added to induce speed increase. motion blur while sprinting in UC3 is absent....something I keep spamming in the Naughtydog forums for them to include. when a grenade goes off nearby in Geow3, the camera shakes and responds realistically. But in UC3, you just get a puff of smoke lasting 2 seconds

3.) Motion blur in UC3 is not high quality enough. While Geow3 has some of the cleanest, God of War 3 style motion blur, used in a shooter. ND needs to borrow the motion blur code from Santa monica and use it in UC3. now God of War 3 don't have the best looking textures, and Geow3 had zero AA during the beta, but both games still look better than UC3 due to the amazing, cinematic motion blur incorporated. Believe it or not, UC3 needs a higher quality motion blur, especially the outdated camera based blur they're still using from UC2.

4.) controls are noticeably less responsive compared to UC2, and sensitivity options are severely limited. Points will surely get docked for not enough sensitivity options in this day and age where COD influence all

I stopped reading after the first point. The characters in Gears look like boulders rolling down a hill when they move, how the hell is that better than UC3, where the character animations are actually human like? :?

I suggest putting the animation point at last, coz apparantly nobody will agree with you, not to mention it will turn people away from reading the rest .... I have seen an interview with a ND memever yesterday, here btw, and he said the game is still under development pretty much and they will continue polishing it as long as Sony says "stop" ..... btw the issues ur talking about are very minor.

I'm not sure about 2,3 and 4 but as far as I've seen in videos the animations in UC3 are better than GeOW3.soulitane

That doesnt mean they are good enough. Uncharted series has VERY high standards in this matter. I think Uncharted 2 animations are yet to be matched in the industry. Lets hope UC3 will be the game that exceeds them.

edit. Sorry, I just noticed TC is actually trying to say that GeoW 3 animations are better than UC3 :lol:

I stopped reading after the first point. The characters in Gears look like boulders rolling down a hill when they move, how the hell is that better than UC3, where the character animations are actually human like? :?

Rockman999

I lol'd irl:P

[QUOTE="soulitane"]I'm not sure about 2,3 and 4 but as far as I've seen in videos the animations in UC3 are better than GeOW3.BlbecekBobecek

That doesnt mean they are good enough. Uncharted series has VERY high standards in this matter. I think Uncharted 2 animations are yet to be matched in the industry. Lets hope UC3 will be the game that exceeds them.

edit. Sorry, I just noticed TC is actually trying to say that GeoW 3 animations are better than UC3 :lol:

Actually NBA2K11 has the best animations in a video game...

I stopped reading after the first point. The characters in Gears look like boulders rolling down a hill when they move, how the hell is that better than UC3, where the character animations are actually human like? :?

Rockman999

Exactly.And by the looks of it the TP is judging from the beta.I bet he has not seen the gamescon gameplay video.

I love it when ppl talk out of their %$^.

[QUOTE="BlbecekBobecek"]

[QUOTE="soulitane"]I'm not sure about 2,3 and 4 but as far as I've seen in videos the animations in UC3 are better than GeOW3.CorbraMax

That doesnt mean they are good enough. Uncharted series has VERY high standards in this matter. I think Uncharted 2 animations are yet to be matched in the industry. Lets hope UC3 will be the game that exceeds them.

edit. Sorry, I just noticed TC is actually trying to say that GeoW 3 animations are better than UC3 :lol:

Actually NBA2K11 has the best animations in a video game...

Thats possible, I dont play and dont care about sport games, so I might have missed that one.

Gears 3 seems to have better AA but that's about it.

Gears 3 seems to have better AA but that's about it.

Filthybastrd

Better AF

Better motion blur too...

I stopped reading after the first point. The characters in Gears look like boulders rolling down a hill when they move, how the hell is that better than UC3, where the character animations are actually human like? :?

Rockman999

:lol::cry:

Funniest thing I read all day ( although my day pretty much just started ) .

[QUOTE="rich-sac"] 1.) the UC3 character animation is very lacking compared to UC2 & Geow3sakura_Ex

The animations are very much improved in Gears 3... Even more so for the new locust types.

It doesn't hurt that themotion blur makes it look even more smoother.

I stopped reading after the first point. The characters in Gears look like boulders rolling down a hill when they move, how the hell is that better than UC3, where the character animations are actually human like? :?

Rockman999

this. Also we should wait until those games actually release before we comprare the end product :S

So uncharted is worse for not having as much motion blur? :lol:

I usually disable motion blur

Character animation better in gears... wow...really?

I think Uncharted is better than gears in most aspects (better characters, smoother gameplay, better controls).Gears does shooting better than uncharted though (much better).

As for graphics, I think gears 3 looks better from what I've seen (slightly), and they both have pretty generic stories (based on the first 2 games in each series).

I'm unintrested in multiplayer, so I'll not comment on that.

I prefer Uncharted to Gears, but they both are great games in there own right.

All imo, of course.

1.) the UC3 character animation is very lacking compared to UC2 & Geow3. the ND forums are flooded with complaints about animation

2.) the camera work in UC3 doesn't portray real momentum, especially when sprinting. Geow3 looks so good because the camera shakes perfectly without nausiating and motion blur is added to induce speed increase. motion blur while sprinting in UC3 is absent....something I keep spamming in the Naughtydog forums for them to include. when a grenade goes off nearby in Geow3, the camera shakes and responds realistically. But in UC3, you just get a puff of smoke lasting 2 seconds

3.) Motion blur in UC3 is not high quality enough. While Geow3 has some of the cleanest, God of War 3 ****motion blur, used in a shooter. ND needs to borrow the motion blur code from Santa monica and use it in UC3. now God of War 3 don't have the best looking textures, and Geow3 had zero AA during the beta, but both games still look better than UC3 due to the amazing, cinematic motion blur incorporated. Believe it or not, UC3 needs a higher quality motion blur, especially the outdated camera based blur they're still using from UC2.

4.) controls are noticeably less responsive compared to UC2, and sensitivity options are severely limited. Points will surely get docked for not enough sensitivity options in this day and age where COD influence all

rich-sac

So you're that guy on the naughtydog forums... I was almost going to respond to your thread in there but I was too busy. Motion blur is something created to hide low frame rates to make things look smooth, particularly on fast moving objects. However a side effect of motion blur is dizziness. But since uncharted is pretty much locked at 30fps it really isn't necessary to hide any drops in framerate, and nothing is moving fast enough in the game except for your legs when you sprint and the ground in the first part of the air strip, both of which have a good amount of motion blur.

So no, it does not need motion blur, which a lot of games force into the game for stylistic purposes or to hide flaws.

1) You're probably the guy complaining about this on the ND forums too. There was a few missing in the beta that were seen to be in the singleplayer. That is all.

4) Controls are noticeably less responsive for 2 reasons. 1, they nerfed bunny hopping slightly. 2, they added extra animations :o to make things like throwing grenades and fumbling a jump look more realistic

^Why would you post thatwhen it was PS3 exclusives like Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, and God of War 3that were pushing object based motion blur? Hell the new Resistance is pushing motion blur even further...

[QUOTE="BlbecekBobecek"]

[QUOTE="soulitane"]I'm not sure about 2,3 and 4 but as far as I've seen in videos the animations in UC3 are better than GeOW3.CorbraMax

That doesnt mean they are good enough. Uncharted series has VERY high standards in this matter. I think Uncharted 2 animations are yet to be matched in the industry. Lets hope UC3 will be the game that exceeds them.

edit. Sorry, I just noticed TC is actually trying to say that GeoW 3 animations are better than UC3 :lol:

Actually NBA2K11 has the best animations in a video game...

I stopped reading after the first point. The characters in Gears look like boulders rolling down a hill when they move, how the hell is that better than UC3, where the character animations are actually human like? :?

Rockman999

I lol'd.

I stopped reading after the first point. The characters in Gears look like boulders rolling down a hill when they move, how the hell is that better than UC3, where the character animations are actually human like? :?

Rockman999

I'm pretty sure that both Gears 3 and UC3 will be incredibly slick, polished gaming experiences when they release.

Having played the beta for both games I'd have to say that at this point in time Gears 3 looks and plays better imo. The recent MP videos for UC3 shows that ND is polishing it up so both games will be near equal in quality by the time they're released.

Wow... so what other nitpicky topics are there going to be today?

Haven't played the game yet so I can't be certain, but I sure hope they fixed the controls. They were god awful in the beta.

When I watched the trailer the uncharted 3animations looked detached from the level. Almost a ice rink effect. Skating.

Out of place so to speak. The animations looked great. Just out of place to me.

Gears look more in-tune with the level. A grounded look.

[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

Gears 3 seems to have better AA but that's about it.

CorbraMax

Better AF

Better motion blur too...

but UC have better color :P

I stopped reading after the first point. The characters in Gears look like boulders rolling down a hill when they move, how the hell is that better than UC3, where the character animations are actually human like? :?

Rockman999

I agree 100% with you TC and im a huge UC2 /3 fan

[QUOTE="Rockman999"]

I stopped reading after the first point. The characters in Gears look like boulders rolling down a hill when they move, how the hell is that better than UC3, where the character animations are actually human like? :?

AAllxxjjnn

Yup you are completely right, he's totally heavily armored. :roll:

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="Rockman999"]

I stopped reading after the first point. The characters in Gears look like boulders rolling down a hill when they move, how the hell is that better than UC3, where the character animations are actually human like? :?

Rockman999

Yup you are completely right, he's totally heavily armored. :roll:

Lol, his hand is bigger than his head.

i trust naughty dog to make the most polished game they can. i might even buy gears 3 later since i have a 360, but never use it.

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="Rockman999"]

I stopped reading after the first point. The characters in Gears look like boulders rolling down a hill when they move, how the hell is that better than UC3, where the character animations are actually human like? :?

Rockman999

Yup you are completely right, he's totally heavily armored. :roll:

I don't know what to say if you don't think that's heavily armored and that a character wearing what looks like a slab of cement on their chest should move around as if they were as light as a feather.

The characters are stylized and don't exactly have normal body proportions, they should move accordingly.

Yup you are completely right, he's totally heavily armored. :roll:

Rockman999

most uninspired, generic character model ever.

"oh...oh..let's make a character sooo badass he can eradicate all aliens!"

cue in soul patch/beard, bandana, oversized biceps, mean/angry face, hoarse voice, tattoos, boring grey armour, hands as big as the head, disproportionate body, big ass boots (seriously, what's inside those boots anyway?). :roll:

most uninspired, generic character model ever.

"oh...oh..let's make a character sooo badass he can eradicate all aliens!"

cue in soul patch/beard, bandana, oversized biceps, mean/angry face, hoarse voice, tattoos, boring grey armour, hands as big as the head, disproportionate body, big ass boots (seriously, what's inside those boots anyway?). :roll:

rumbalumba

Hey can I borrow someones copy of Uncharted 3 and Gears 3? I really want to play them now and not wait untilthey come out.

Oh you complain about UC3 not have good looking motion blur!?!? isn't motion blur that thing that makes games look worse to begin with lol??

I always play games with motion blur turned OFF if i have option for it...

Oh you complain about UC3 not have good looking motion blur!?!? isn't motion blur that thing that makes games look worse to begin with lol??

I always play games with motion blur turned OFF if i have option for it...

aroxx_ab

exactly. UC3 does not need motion blur.

look at how smooth that runs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qQXQtMN9Rg" title="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qQXQtMN9Rg"> UC3

When I watched the trailer the uncharted 3animations looked detached from the level. Almost a ice rink effect. Skating.

Out of place so to speak. The animations looked great. Just out of place to me.

Gears look more in-tune with the level. A grounded look.

Baxhand

I stopped reading after the first point. The characters in Gears look like boulders rolling down a hill when they move, how the hell is that better than UC3, where the character animations are actually human like? :?

Rockman999

More like vehicular combat.