Uncharted to be only 10-12h long?

[QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"][QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"]

[QUOTE="hotdaisy18"]So Resident Evil 4's 13 hour game stopped it from being great? It's just a renter right? Oh, and God of War 1 and 2. 15 hours max, right? Geez. Those 12 hour games sure do act like renters. Multiplayer doesn't make a game as a whole, great. What's wrong with people today? Lemmings in particular. Something you drank? Ate? Pissed off about something? Logic failing? Monday? What's up Lemmings? themyth01

Oh ok, so now cows are going back to flip floping concerning last gen and this gen. Sorry but a 12 hour game with no multiplayer on a machine that's hyped as 'teh only next gen' machine out is unacceptable. I guess we can see why some devs have to now throw a movie on, to smokescreen short gameplay. Seriously $600 + $60 a game is acceptable for 10 hours of gameplay? Welcome to planet Bovine...

Besides the fact that GoW and RE4 are regarded as some of the absolute best games of last gen...

And yes, it is acceptable that 10-hour games with no multi-player exist on the PS3.  You know why?   For one thing, the majority of PS3 owners AND 360 owners don't have online, so single-player is all they get.  Imagine how dissapointed they'll be when they find out that GEoW only lasts them 6-8 hours with a s*** story and little to no replayability... whereas Uncharted was desinged solely as a single-player experience.  This means more time put into the story and into the replayability.

 You probably haven't even played GeOW, have you? It's about 10-12 hours of gameplay and has more replayibility than any PS3 game out there and probably much more than Uncharted, not to mention that it obviously has online which over 50% of xbox360 owners have. Uncharted is only single-player and it's only 10 hours, now that's bs.

 You might as well forget it, they're too busy reading dev BS, beleiveing Sony overhype and praying to chadwarden that this game will amount to anything, to see how follish they look trying to justify a $660 purchase to play a 10 hour game...

[QUOTE="R-Dot-Yung"][QUOTE="ssbfalco"]

So... Blu Ray is needed for 12 hour experiences?  Wow, PS3 is amazing...

 

/PS2 

killab2oo5

And you my good sir, obviously know SOOO much about developing, whats wrong with 10-12 hours, cuz a bunch of crazy cows bashed GeOW now Lems have to do the same, whats the point in that

Honestly you are just.....wow, troll troll troll, Blu Ray is needed for 3000 Animations, Streaming Cache Data, tons of other goodies and reasons that your too narrow minded to understand obviously

Blu Ray is why MGS4, Lair, Uncharted, FFXIII, and a tons more games wont go to the 360, cuz they are over 9GB

Recent GI preview has Splinter Cell: Conviction, having over 5,000 animations.

He knows nothing. Heck, Conviction has around the same if not more than Uncharted. Let me go get my magazines with the cover stories.

I still don't understand xbox 360 fanboys insist that these games are too short. The xbox 360 had only 4 games longer then uncharted during its whole lifetime right now, OBlivion, dead rising, saints row, and Final fantasy 11. It isn't like 12 hours is a short game. It is actually a fairly long game if you think about it. Bigger then almost every other game. But anything is getting bashed nowadays that is on the ps3? The stupider they are the more amused I am getting.

drsports1980

 Nah I think it's just funny that when it's under 20 Hours on the xbox360 is bad even if it has online play and good replayibility value but when it's on the ps3 and doesn't even have online play it's still good for the game... There's nothing wrong with 12 hours long games especially if it has multiplayer and is online enabled.

[QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"][QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"]

[QUOTE="hotdaisy18"]So Resident Evil 4's 13 hour game stopped it from being great? It's just a renter right? Oh, and God of War 1 and 2. 15 hours max, right? Geez. Those 12 hour games sure do act like renters. Multiplayer doesn't make a game as a whole, great. What's wrong with people today? Lemmings in particular. Something you drank? Ate? Pissed off about something? Logic failing? Monday? What's up Lemmings? themyth01

Oh ok, so now cows are going back to flip floping concerning last gen and this gen. Sorry but a 12 hour game with no multiplayer on a machine that's hyped as 'teh only next gen' machine out is unacceptable. I guess we can see why some devs have to now throw a movie on, to smokescreen short gameplay. Seriously $600 + $60 a game is acceptable for 10 hours of gameplay? Welcome to planet Bovine...

Besides the fact that GoW and RE4 are regarded as some of the absolute best games of last gen...

And yes, it is acceptable that 10-hour games with no multi-player exist on the PS3. You know why? For one thing, the majority of PS3 owners AND 360 owners don't have online, so single-player is all they get. Imagine how dissapointed they'll be when they find out that GEoW only lasts them 6-8 hours with a s*** story and little to no replayability... whereas Uncharted was desinged solely as a single-player experience. This means more time put into the story and into the replayability.

You probably haven't even played GeOW, have you? It's about 10-12 hours of gameplay and has more replayibility than any PS3 game out there and probably much more than Uncharted, not to mention that it obviously has online which over 50% of xbox360 owners have. Uncharted is only single-player and it's only 10 hours, now that's bs.

Yet again with the assuming... while I may not have a 360, I have beaten the game at my friend's house.  At first it was somewhat weird as the controls automatically snapped you to a wall (which is annoying as hell if you're trying to get out of the way of one of the blind Locust) but I learned it thoroughly in about  15 minutes.  After that, it was smooth sailing, and my completion time was 7:54.  If I was at my friend's house I would take a picture of my save screen, but I'm not, so I can't.  And that 50% bit... that's a half-truth.  If you combine Gold AND silver the online userbase is 50%+.  If you take away Silver... under 50%. 

Sucks for you. Nobody thinks like you. People have different tastes for different gaming they enjoy. Again your logic makes zero sense. And we're not talking about an established name franchise. Why do you Lemmings keep changing the subject. You're just as bad as Cows.

hotdaisy18

It's funny hearing you say that after seeing topics/post you made in SW. whatever you say...........:roll:

[QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"][QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"]

[QUOTE="hotdaisy18"]So Resident Evil 4's 13 hour game stopped it from being great? It's just a renter right? Oh, and God of War 1 and 2. 15 hours max, right? Geez. Those 12 hour games sure do act like renters. Multiplayer doesn't make a game as a whole, great. What's wrong with people today? Lemmings in particular. Something you drank? Ate? Pissed off about something? Logic failing? Monday? What's up Lemmings? hotdaisy18

Oh ok, so now cows are going back to flip floping concerning last gen and this gen. Sorry but a 12 hour game with no multiplayer on a machine that's hyped as 'teh only next gen' machine out is unacceptable. I guess we can see why some devs have to now throw a movie on, to smokescreen short gameplay. Seriously $600 + $60 a game is acceptable for 10 hours of gameplay? Welcome to planet Bovine...

Besides the fact that GoW and RE4 are regarded as some of the absolute best games of last gen...

And yes, it is acceptable that 10-hour games with no multi-player exist on the PS3.  You know why?   For one thing, the majority of PS3 owners AND 360 owners don't have online, so single-player is all they get.  Imagine how dissapointed they'll be when they find out that GEoW only lasts them 6-8 hours with a s*** story and little to no replayability... whereas Uncharted was desinged solely as a single-player experience.  This means more time put into the story and into the replayability.

 You probably haven't even played GeOW, have you? It's about 10-12 hours of gameplay and has more replayibility than any PS3 game out there and probably much more than Uncharted, not to mention that it obviously has online which over 50% of xbox360 owners have. Uncharted is only single-player and it's only 10 hours, now that's bs.

Lemmings hiding behind GeoW. :lol: This thread has lost its logic. Oh...have you played Uncharted? I want to see screenshots! Where's your link? And....50% of Xbox360 owners? -dies- The majority of 360 owners don't even have Xbox Live. Where are you pulling numbers from? Your imaginary MS Representivie that lives next door?

Probably the same voice in back of your head that says you know logic....

[QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"][QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"]

[QUOTE="hotdaisy18"]So Resident Evil 4's 13 hour game stopped it from being great? It's just a renter right? Oh, and God of War 1 and 2. 15 hours max, right? Geez. Those 12 hour games sure do act like renters. Multiplayer doesn't make a game as a whole, great. What's wrong with people today? Lemmings in particular. Something you drank? Ate? Pissed off about something? Logic failing? Monday? What's up Lemmings? hotdaisy18

Oh ok, so now cows are going back to flip floping concerning last gen and this gen. Sorry but a 12 hour game with no multiplayer on a machine that's hyped as 'teh only next gen' machine out is unacceptable. I guess we can see why some devs have to now throw a movie on, to smokescreen short gameplay. Seriously $600 + $60 a game is acceptable for 10 hours of gameplay? Welcome to planet Bovine...

Besides the fact that GoW and RE4 are regarded as some of the absolute best games of last gen...

And yes, it is acceptable that 10-hour games with no multi-player exist on the PS3.  You know why?   For one thing, the majority of PS3 owners AND 360 owners don't have online, so single-player is all they get.  Imagine how dissapointed they'll be when they find out that GEoW only lasts them 6-8 hours with a s*** story and little to no replayability... whereas Uncharted was desinged solely as a single-player experience.  This means more time put into the story and into the replayability.

 You probably haven't even played GeOW, have you? It's about 10-12 hours of gameplay and has more replayibility than any PS3 game out there and probably much more than Uncharted, not to mention that it obviously has online which over 50% of xbox360 owners have. Uncharted is only single-player and it's only 10 hours, now that's bs.

Lemmings hiding behind GeoW. :lol: This thread has lost its logic. Oh...have you played Uncharted? I want to see screenshots! Where's your link? And....50% of Xbox360 owners? -dies- The majority of 360 owners don't even have Xbox Live. Where are you pulling numbers from? Your imaginary MS Representivie that lives next door?

 I don't get the impression you're one that reads much so let me enlighten you. MS released numbers saying that it had over 6 million subscribers to xbox live. The PS3 however doesn't have anywhere near that but according to Sony it still has over 1 million members which is a relevant figure. So get your s*** straight.

[QUOTE="drsports1980"]

I still don't understand xbox 360 fanboys insist that these games are too short. The xbox 360 had only 4 games longer then uncharted during its whole lifetime right now, OBlivion, dead rising, saints row, and Final fantasy 11. It isn't like 12 hours is a short game. It is actually a fairly long game if you think about it. Bigger then almost every other game. But anything is getting bashed nowadays that is on the ps3? The stupider they are the more amused I am getting.

themyth01

 Nah I think it's just funny that when it's under 20 Hours on the xbox360 is bad even if it has online play and good replayibility value but when it's on the ps3 and doesn't even have online play it's still good for the game... There's nothing wrong with 12 hours long games especially if it has multiplayer and is online enabled.

[QUOTE="hotdaisy18"][QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"][QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"]

[QUOTE="hotdaisy18"]So Resident Evil 4's 13 hour game stopped it from being great? It's just a renter right? Oh, and God of War 1 and 2. 15 hours max, right? Geez. Those 12 hour games sure do act like renters. Multiplayer doesn't make a game as a whole, great. What's wrong with people today? Lemmings in particular. Something you drank? Ate? Pissed off about something? Logic failing? Monday? What's up Lemmings? themyth01

Oh ok, so now cows are going back to flip floping concerning last gen and this gen. Sorry but a 12 hour game with no multiplayer on a machine that's hyped as 'teh only next gen' machine out is unacceptable. I guess we can see why some devs have to now throw a movie on, to smokescreen short gameplay. Seriously $600 + $60 a game is acceptable for 10 hours of gameplay? Welcome to planet Bovine...

Besides the fact that GoW and RE4 are regarded as some of the absolute best games of last gen...

And yes, it is acceptable that 10-hour games with no multi-player exist on the PS3.  You know why?   For one thing, the majority of PS3 owners AND 360 owners don't have online, so single-player is all they get.  Imagine how dissapointed they'll be when they find out that GEoW only lasts them 6-8 hours with a s*** story and little to no replayability... whereas Uncharted was desinged solely as a single-player experience.  This means more time put into the story and into the replayability.

 You probably haven't even played GeOW, have you? It's about 10-12 hours of gameplay and has more replayibility than any PS3 game out there and probably much more than Uncharted, not to mention that it obviously has online which over 50% of xbox360 owners have. Uncharted is only single-player and it's only 10 hours, now that's bs.

Lemmings hiding behind GeoW. :lol: This thread has lost its logic. Oh...have you played Uncharted? I want to see screenshots! Where's your link? And....50% of Xbox360 owners? -dies- The majority of 360 owners don't even have Xbox Live. Where are you pulling numbers from? Your imaginary MS Representivie that lives next door?

 I don't get the impression you're one that reads much so let me enlighten you. MS released numbers saying that it had over 6 million subscribers to xbox live. The PS3 however doesn't have anywhere near that but according to Sony it still has over 1 million members which is a relevant figure. So get your s*** straight.

And which are those 6 million gold? -cough-

Not everyone has the same pace of how they play a game. So you're a slow gamer, big deal. Some people take the time to enjoy the game's envorinments, etc etc. I usually do that after I've beat the game. Sorry if I have a keen skill of playing games so fast. Like I said. Everyone has their own pace to playing games.

hotdaisy18

You callin' me slow?  Oh snap, now it's personal!   Only... it's not.  RE4 isn't a 12 hour game and neither is God of War 2.  God of War 1 was; I reached the end in 12 hours, like just about everybody else.  Its sequel is almost twice as long, and so is Resident Evil 4.  I'm not the only one saying this; check out the reviews for these games on this very site.  I'm not saying there aren't good games that are short; I'm saying the examples you've used are terrible because they don't actually prove your point--they prove the opposite of your point, which is that the better games are generally longer.  You say you're sorry if you "have a keen skill of playing games so fast," I say I'm sorry you think that thinly veiled insults are a substitute for rational argument.  I'm sorry, but it's no big deal, because I'm used to it from posters like you in System Wars.  Did you see what I did there?

[QUOTE="hotdaisy18"][QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"][QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"]

[QUOTE="hotdaisy18"]So Resident Evil 4's 13 hour game stopped it from being great? It's just a renter right? Oh, and God of War 1 and 2. 15 hours max, right? Geez. Those 12 hour games sure do act like renters. Multiplayer doesn't make a game as a whole, great. What's wrong with people today? Lemmings in particular. Something you drank? Ate? Pissed off about something? Logic failing? Monday? What's up Lemmings? DXGreat1_HGL

Oh ok, so now cows are going back to flip floping concerning last gen and this gen. Sorry but a 12 hour game with no multiplayer on a machine that's hyped as 'teh only next gen' machine out is unacceptable. I guess we can see why some devs have to now throw a movie on, to smokescreen short gameplay. Seriously $600 + $60 a game is acceptable for 10 hours of gameplay? Welcome to planet Bovine...

Besides the fact that GoW and RE4 are regarded as some of the absolute best games of last gen...

And yes, it is acceptable that 10-hour games with no multi-player exist on the PS3.  You know why?   For one thing, the majority of PS3 owners AND 360 owners don't have online, so single-player is all they get.  Imagine how dissapointed they'll be when they find out that GEoW only lasts them 6-8 hours with a s*** story and little to no replayability... whereas Uncharted was desinged solely as a single-player experience.  This means more time put into the story and into the replayability.

 You probably haven't even played GeOW, have you? It's about 10-12 hours of gameplay and has more replayibility than any PS3 game out there and probably much more than Uncharted, not to mention that it obviously has online which over 50% of xbox360 owners have. Uncharted is only single-player and it's only 10 hours, now that's bs.

Lemmings hiding behind GeoW. :lol: This thread has lost its logic. Oh...have you played Uncharted? I want to see screenshots! Where's your link? And....50% of Xbox360 owners? -dies- The majority of 360 owners don't even have Xbox Live. Where are you pulling numbers from? Your imaginary MS Representivie that lives next door?

Probably the same voice in back of your head that says you know logic....

Whatever you say Mr. One Track Mind.

[QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"][QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"]

[QUOTE="hotdaisy18"]So Resident Evil 4's 13 hour game stopped it from being great? It's just a renter right? Oh, and God of War 1 and 2. 15 hours max, right? Geez. Those 12 hour games sure do act like renters. Multiplayer doesn't make a game as a whole, great. What's wrong with people today? Lemmings in particular. Something you drank? Ate? Pissed off about something? Logic failing? Monday? What's up Lemmings? DXGreat1_HGL

Oh ok, so now cows are going back to flip floping concerning last gen and this gen. Sorry but a 12 hour game with no multiplayer on a machine that's hyped as 'teh only next gen' machine out is unacceptable. I guess we can see why some devs have to now throw a movie on, to smokescreen short gameplay. Seriously $600 + $60 a game is acceptable for 10 hours of gameplay? Welcome to planet Bovine...

Besides the fact that GoW and RE4 are regarded as some of the absolute best games of last gen...

And yes, it is acceptable that 10-hour games with no multi-player exist on the PS3. You know why? For one thing, the majority of PS3 owners AND 360 owners don't have online, so single-player is all they get. Imagine how dissapointed they'll be when they find out that GEoW only lasts them 6-8 hours with a s*** story and little to no replayability... whereas Uncharted was desinged solely as a single-player experience. This means more time put into the story and into the replayability.

You probably haven't even played GeOW, have you? It's about 10-12 hours of gameplay and has more replayibility than any PS3 game out there and probably much more than Uncharted, not to mention that it obviously has online which over 50% of xbox360 owners have. Uncharted is only single-player and it's only 10 hours, now that's bs.

You might as well forget it, they're too busy reading dev BS, beleiveing Sony overhype and praying to chadwarden that this game will amount to anything, to see how follish they look trying to justify a $660 purchase to play a 10 hour game...

Oh, you people crack me up... now you're acting like Uncharted is the only game.  Lair, Heavenly Sword, LittleBigPlanet, Ratchet and Clank Future:  Tools of Destruction, MGS4, FFXIII, SOCOM:  Confrontation, Folklore, Eye of Judgement, Warhawk, Hot Shots Golf 5, Killzone 2...    What's more is that this is coming from you people who back when the Xbox launched only had Halo, and until late 2002... that was pretty much it.  So tell me:  Did Halo alone justify a $300 console that was originally predicted to be a flop?

[QUOTE="hotdaisy18"]

Not everyone has the same pace of how they play a game. So you're a slow gamer, big deal. Some people take the time to enjoy the game's envorinments, etc etc. I usually do that after I've beat the game. Sorry if I have a keen skill of playing games so fast. Like I said. Everyone has their own pace to playing games.

WeeWeeJumbo

You callin' me slow?  Oh snap, now it's personal!   Only... it's not.  RE4 isn't a 12 hour game and neither is God of War 2.  God of War 1 was; I reached the end in 12 hours, like just about everybody else.  Its sequel is almost twice as long, and so is Resident Evil 4.  I'm not the only one saying this; check out the reviews for these games on this very site.  I'm not saying there aren't good games that are short; I'm saying the examples you've used are terrible because they don't actually prove your point--they prove the opposite of your point, which is that the better games are generally longer.  You say you're sorry if you "have a keen skill of playing games so fast," I say I'm sorry you think that thinly veiled insults are a substitute for rational argument.  I'm sorry, but it's no big deal, because I'm used to it from posters like you in System Wars.  Did you see what I did there?

[QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="drsports1980"]

I still don't understand xbox 360 fanboys insist that these games are too short. The xbox 360 had only 4 games longer then uncharted during its whole lifetime right now, OBlivion, dead rising, saints row, and Final fantasy 11. It isn't like 12 hours is a short game. It is actually a fairly long game if you think about it. Bigger then almost every other game. But anything is getting bashed nowadays that is on the ps3? The stupider they are the more amused I am getting.

drsports1980

 Nah I think it's just funny that when it's under 20 Hours on the xbox360 is bad even if it has online play and good replayibility value but when it's on the ps3 and doesn't even have online play it's still good for the game... There's nothing wrong with 12 hours long games especially if it has multiplayer and is online enabled.

 Is that your personal record? I don't think people take the same time playing the game. Most people who owned Gears of War have probably played it for MUCH more than 10 or 20 hours, the same can't be said for a ps3 game.

[QUOTE="hotdaisy18"]

Sucks for you. Nobody thinks like you. People have different tastes for different gaming they enjoy. Again your logic makes zero sense. And we're not talking about an established name franchise. Why do you Lemmings keep changing the subject. You're just as bad as Cows.

istreakforfood

It's funny hearing you say that after seeing topics/post you made in SW. whatever you say...........:roll:

Care to throw out examples? Concidering I have to hold these silly little Lemmings down...I'll do my best to answer you.

[QUOTE="drsports1980"][QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="drsports1980"]

I still don't understand xbox 360 fanboys insist that these games are too short. The xbox 360 had only 4 games longer then uncharted during its whole lifetime right now, OBlivion, dead rising, saints row, and Final fantasy 11. It isn't like 12 hours is a short game. It is actually a fairly long game if you think about it. Bigger then almost every other game. But anything is getting bashed nowadays that is on the ps3? The stupider they are the more amused I am getting.

themyth01

Nah I think it's just funny that when it's under 20 Hours on the xbox360 is bad even if it has online play and good replayibility value but when it's on the ps3 and doesn't even have online play it's still good for the game... There's nothing wrong with 12 hours long games especially if it has multiplayer and is online enabled.

Is that your personal record? I don't think people take the same time playing the game. Most people who owned Gears of War have probably played it for MUCH more than 10 or 20 hours, the same can't be said for a ps3 game.

  This is true, as most people have probably REPLAYED IT.  What part of single-playthrough completion-time do you not understand.  If I played Resistance just ONCE, I'd have played it longer than those people who had played it for more than 10 or twenty hours.  Not to mention that Resistance has a superior online component...

[QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="drsports1980"][QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="drsports1980"]

I still don't understand xbox 360 fanboys insist that these games are too short. The xbox 360 had only 4 games longer then uncharted during its whole lifetime right now, OBlivion, dead rising, saints row, and Final fantasy 11. It isn't like 12 hours is a short game. It is actually a fairly long game if you think about it. Bigger then almost every other game. But anything is getting bashed nowadays that is on the ps3? The stupider they are the more amused I am getting.

drsports1980

Nah I think it's just funny that when it's under 20 Hours on the xbox360 is bad even if it has online play and good replayibility value but when it's on the ps3 and doesn't even have online play it's still good for the game... There's nothing wrong with 12 hours long games especially if it has multiplayer and is online enabled.

Is that your personal record? I don't think people take the same time playing the game. Most people who owned Gears of War have probably played it for MUCH more than 10 or 20 hours, the same can't be said for a ps3 game.

You will be banned... I got suspended for 10 days for saying that somebody was "being stupid". 

i expected more from naughty dog.

jak 2 and 3 took me like 25 hours to complete, not counting free roam stuff. 

Honestly most of the games are way shorter then that. Graw 2 took 5 hours, Gears of war 8 hours, Kameo 8 hours, king kong (which I loved) took 6 hours, COD2 took 5 hours, and PDZ took 6 hours. And for action adventure games there is also a moment where the game must end, and it is neccesary to make the story not run for too long. In my opinion this game is perfect length for a action adventure game.drsports1980

graw 2 SP campaign was good but was short cuse of the 6 hours. GRAW 2 MP was where it was. there were a lot i mean a lot of multiplayer game modes that can keep you occupied for a long time. There was a co-op campaign that was totally different from single player.

[QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="drsports1980"][QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="drsports1980"]

I still don't understand xbox 360 fanboys insist that these games are too short. The xbox 360 had only 4 games longer then uncharted during its whole lifetime right now, OBlivion, dead rising, saints row, and Final fantasy 11. It isn't like 12 hours is a short game. It is actually a fairly long game if you think about it. Bigger then almost every other game. But anything is getting bashed nowadays that is on the ps3? The stupider they are the more amused I am getting.

drsports1980

 Nah I think it's just funny that when it's under 20 Hours on the xbox360 is bad even if it has online play and good replayibility value but when it's on the ps3 and doesn't even have online play it's still good for the game... There's nothing wrong with 12 hours long games especially if it has multiplayer and is online enabled.

 Is that your personal record? I don't think people take the same time playing the game. Most people who owned Gears of War have probably played it for MUCH more than 10 or 20 hours, the same can't be said for a ps3 game.

  Resistance is about 1-2 hours longer than Gears of War, so. Gears of War is played much more than Resistance, I can guarantee that, just go into xlive servers to play GeOW. Not to mention that most if not all xbox360 games are online-enabled apart from the single-player campaign which is not the case with the ps3. For games like that though, br is really unnecessary.

[QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="drsports1980"][QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="drsports1980"]

I still don't understand xbox 360 fanboys insist that these games are too short. The xbox 360 had only 4 games longer then uncharted during its whole lifetime right now, OBlivion, dead rising, saints row, and Final fantasy 11. It isn't like 12 hours is a short game. It is actually a fairly long game if you think about it. Bigger then almost every other game. But anything is getting bashed nowadays that is on the ps3? The stupider they are the more amused I am getting.

a_ratchet_fan

Nah I think it's just funny that when it's under 20 Hours on the xbox360 is bad even if it has online play and good replayibility value but when it's on the ps3 and doesn't even have online play it's still good for the game... There's nothing wrong with 12 hours long games especially if it has multiplayer and is online enabled.

Is that your personal record? I don't think people take the same time playing the game. Most people who owned Gears of War have probably played it for MUCH more than 10 or 20 hours, the same can't be said for a ps3 game.

  This is true, as most people have probably REPLAYED IT.  What part of single-playthrough completion-time do you not understand.  If I played Resistance just ONCE, I'd have played it longer than those people who had played it for more than 10 or twenty hours.  Not to mention that Resistance has a superior online component...

 That's completely your personal opinion, like mine is that Gears of War is a MUCH better game than Resistance is. And not so much opinion that Gears has much better graphics than Resistance.

[QUOTE="drsports1980"][QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="drsports1980"][QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="drsports1980"]

I still don't understand xbox 360 fanboys insist that these games are too short. The xbox 360 had only 4 games longer then uncharted during its whole lifetime right now, OBlivion, dead rising, saints row, and Final fantasy 11. It isn't like 12 hours is a short game. It is actually a fairly long game if you think about it. Bigger then almost every other game. But anything is getting bashed nowadays that is on the ps3? The stupider they are the more amused I am getting.

a_ratchet_fan

Nah I think it's just funny that when it's under 20 Hours on the xbox360 is bad even if it has online play and good replayibility value but when it's on the ps3 and doesn't even have online play it's still good for the game... There's nothing wrong with 12 hours long games especially if it has multiplayer and is online enabled.

Is that your personal record? I don't think people take the same time playing the game. Most people who owned Gears of War have probably played it for MUCH more than 10 or 20 hours, the same can't be said for a ps3 game.

You will be banned... I got suspended for 10 days for saying that somebody was "being stupid". 

[QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"][QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"]

[QUOTE="hotdaisy18"]So Resident Evil 4's 13 hour game stopped it from being great? It's just a renter right? Oh, and God of War 1 and 2. 15 hours max, right? Geez. Those 12 hour games sure do act like renters. Multiplayer doesn't make a game as a whole, great. What's wrong with people today? Lemmings in particular. Something you drank? Ate? Pissed off about something? Logic failing? Monday? What's up Lemmings? DXGreat1_HGL

Oh ok, so now cows are going back to flip floping concerning last gen and this gen. Sorry but a 12 hour game with no multiplayer on a machine that's hyped as 'teh only next gen' machine out is unacceptable. I guess we can see why some devs have to now throw a movie on, to smokescreen short gameplay. Seriously $600 + $60 a game is acceptable for 10 hours of gameplay? Welcome to planet Bovine...

Besides the fact that GoW and RE4 are regarded as some of the absolute best games of last gen...

And yes, it is acceptable that 10-hour games with no multi-player exist on the PS3. You know why? For one thing, the majority of PS3 owners AND 360 owners don't have online, so single-player is all they get. Imagine how dissapointed they'll be when they find out that GEoW only lasts them 6-8 hours with a s*** story and little to no replayability... whereas Uncharted was desinged solely as a single-player experience. This means more time put into the story and into the replayability.

You probably haven't even played GeOW, have you? It's about 10-12 hours of gameplay and has more replayibility than any PS3 game out there and probably much more than Uncharted, not to mention that it obviously has online which over 50% of xbox360 owners have. Uncharted is only single-player and it's only 10 hours, now that's bs.

You might as well forget it, they're too busy reading dev BS, beleiveing Sony overhype and praying to chadwarden that this game will amount to anything, to see how follish they look trying to justify a $660 purchase to play a 10 hour game...

[QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"][QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"][QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"]

[QUOTE="hotdaisy18"]So Resident Evil 4's 13 hour game stopped it from being great? It's just a renter right? Oh, and God of War 1 and 2. 15 hours max, right? Geez. Those 12 hour games sure do act like renters. Multiplayer doesn't make a game as a whole, great. What's wrong with people today? Lemmings in particular. Something you drank? Ate? Pissed off about something? Logic failing? Monday? What's up Lemmings? a_ratchet_fan

Oh ok, so now cows are going back to flip floping concerning last gen and this gen. Sorry but a 12 hour game with no multiplayer on a machine that's hyped as 'teh only next gen' machine out is unacceptable. I guess we can see why some devs have to now throw a movie on, to smokescreen short gameplay. Seriously $600 + $60 a game is acceptable for 10 hours of gameplay? Welcome to planet Bovine...

Besides the fact that GoW and RE4 are regarded as some of the absolute best games of last gen...

And yes, it is acceptable that 10-hour games with no multi-player exist on the PS3. You know why? For one thing, the majority of PS3 owners AND 360 owners don't have online, so single-player is all they get. Imagine how dissapointed they'll be when they find out that GEoW only lasts them 6-8 hours with a s*** story and little to no replayability... whereas Uncharted was desinged solely as a single-player experience. This means more time put into the story and into the replayability.

You probably haven't even played GeOW, have you? It's about 10-12 hours of gameplay and has more replayibility than any PS3 game out there and probably much more than Uncharted, not to mention that it obviously has online which over 50% of xbox360 owners have. Uncharted is only single-player and it's only 10 hours, now that's bs.

You might as well forget it, they're too busy reading dev BS, beleiveing Sony overhype and praying to chadwarden that this game will amount to anything, to see how follish they look trying to justify a $660 purchase to play a 10 hour game...

Oh, you people crack me up... now you're acting like Uncharted is the only game.  Lair, Heavenly Sword, LittleBigPlanet, Ratchet and Clank Future:  Tools of Destruction, MGS4, FFXIII, SOCOM:  Confrontation, Folklore, Eye of Judgement, Warhawk, Hot Shots Golf 5, Killzone 2...    What's more is that this is coming from you people who back when the Xbox launched only had Halo, and until late 2002... that was pretty much it.  So tell me:  Did Halo alone justify a $300 console that was originally predicted to be a flop?

 Yes and that list is so impressive, people are running out and buying PS3's now, right? Wait a second. You should talk, the $600 machine that had Resistence and made people wait until July, but what do you expect, the cow runs to last gen as soon as it starts to lose the argument from this gen...

10-12 hours = Twice the length of Gears of War. Or if you were going by my friend's experience (who beat Gears in 4 hours) then it'd be 3 times as long. So Lemmings, you got nothin.

[QUOTE="drsports1980"][QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="drsports1980"][QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="drsports1980"]

I still don't understand xbox 360 fanboys insist that these games are too short. The xbox 360 had only 4 games longer then uncharted during its whole lifetime right now, OBlivion, dead rising, saints row, and Final fantasy 11. It isn't like 12 hours is a short game. It is actually a fairly long game if you think about it. Bigger then almost every other game. But anything is getting bashed nowadays that is on the ps3? The stupider they are the more amused I am getting.

themyth01

Nah I think it's just funny that when it's under 20 Hours on the xbox360 is bad even if it has online play and good replayibility value but when it's on the ps3 and doesn't even have online play it's still good for the game... There's nothing wrong with 12 hours long games especially if it has multiplayer and is online enabled.

Is that your personal record? I don't think people take the same time playing the game. Most people who owned Gears of War have probably played it for MUCH more than 10 or 20 hours, the same can't be said for a ps3 game.

Resistance is about 1-2 hours longer than Gears of War, so. Gears of War is played much more than Resistance, I can guarantee that, just go into xlive servers to play GeOW. Not to mention that most if not all xbox360 games are online-enabled apart from the single-player campaign which is not the case with the ps3. For games like that though, br is really unnecessary.

[QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="drsports1980"][QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="drsports1980"]

I still don't understand xbox 360 fanboys insist that these games are too short. The xbox 360 had only 4 games longer then uncharted during its whole lifetime right now, OBlivion, dead rising, saints row, and Final fantasy 11. It isn't like 12 hours is a short game. It is actually a fairly long game if you think about it. Bigger then almost every other game. But anything is getting bashed nowadays that is on the ps3? The stupider they are the more amused I am getting.

a_ratchet_fan

Nah I think it's just funny that when it's under 20 Hours on the xbox360 is bad even if it has online play and good replayibility value but when it's on the ps3 and doesn't even have online play it's still good for the game... There's nothing wrong with 12 hours long games especially if it has multiplayer and is online enabled.

Is that your personal record? I don't think people take the same time playing the game. Most people who owned Gears of War have probably played it for MUCH more than 10 or 20 hours, the same can't be said for a ps3 game.

This is true, as most people have probably REPLAYED IT. What part of single-playthrough completion-time do you not understand. If I played Resistance just ONCE, I'd have played it longer than those people who had played it for more than 10 or twenty hours. Not to mention that Resistance has a superior online component...

That's completely your personal opinion, like mine is that Gears of War is a MUCH better game than Resistance is. And not so much opinion that Gears has much better graphics than Resistance.

Err... when were the graphics of Resistance ever brought up?  And yes, that last bit of my post was opinion.  Maybe it's just me, but 40 player online with really good maps and unique weapons > 8-player glitchy shot-gun fests on multiplayer maps that are ripped right out of the campaign. 

[QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"][QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"][QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"]

[QUOTE="hotdaisy18"]So Resident Evil 4's 13 hour game stopped it from being great? It's just a renter right? Oh, and God of War 1 and 2. 15 hours max, right? Geez. Those 12 hour games sure do act like renters. Multiplayer doesn't make a game as a whole, great. What's wrong with people today? Lemmings in particular. Something you drank? Ate? Pissed off about something? Logic failing? Monday? What's up Lemmings? SergeantSnitch

Oh ok, so now cows are going back to flip floping concerning last gen and this gen. Sorry but a 12 hour game with no multiplayer on a machine that's hyped as 'teh only next gen' machine out is unacceptable. I guess we can see why some devs have to now throw a movie on, to smokescreen short gameplay. Seriously $600 + $60 a game is acceptable for 10 hours of gameplay? Welcome to planet Bovine...

Besides the fact that GoW and RE4 are regarded as some of the absolute best games of last gen...

And yes, it is acceptable that 10-hour games with no multi-player exist on the PS3. You know why? For one thing, the majority of PS3 owners AND 360 owners don't have online, so single-player is all they get. Imagine how dissapointed they'll be when they find out that GEoW only lasts them 6-8 hours with a s*** story and little to no replayability... whereas Uncharted was desinged solely as a single-player experience. This means more time put into the story and into the replayability.

You probably haven't even played GeOW, have you? It's about 10-12 hours of gameplay and has more replayibility than any PS3 game out there and probably much more than Uncharted, not to mention that it obviously has online which over 50% of xbox360 owners have. Uncharted is only single-player and it's only 10 hours, now that's bs.

You might as well forget it, they're too busy reading dev BS, beleiveing Sony overhype and praying to chadwarden that this game will amount to anything, to see how follish they look trying to justify a $660 purchase to play a 10 hour game...

 Cow axiom 101: whenever you can't win an argument, point out typos in a post...

10-12 hours = Twice the length of Gears of War. Or if you were going by my friend's experience (who beat Gears in 4 hours) then it'd be 3 times as long. So Lemmings, you got nothin.

 

BackFlip101

 You haven't even played Uncharted, if devs say 10-12 hours it means 6-8 hours. Such a short game without online component, PS3 has nothing good.

[QUOTE="BackFlip101"]

10-12 hours = Twice the length of Gears of War. Or if you were going by my friend's experience (who beat Gears in 4 hours) then it'd be 3 times as long. So Lemmings, you got nothin.

 

themyth01

 You haven't even played Uncharted, if devs say 10-12 hours it means 6-8 hours. Such a short game without online component, PS3 has nothing good.

[QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"][QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"][QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"][QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"]

[QUOTE="hotdaisy18"]So Resident Evil 4's 13 hour game stopped it from being great? It's just a renter right? Oh, and God of War 1 and 2. 15 hours max, right? Geez. Those 12 hour games sure do act like renters. Multiplayer doesn't make a game as a whole, great. What's wrong with people today? Lemmings in particular. Something you drank? Ate? Pissed off about something? Logic failing? Monday? What's up Lemmings? DXGreat1_HGL

Oh ok, so now cows are going back to flip floping concerning last gen and this gen. Sorry but a 12 hour game with no multiplayer on a machine that's hyped as 'teh only next gen' machine out is unacceptable. I guess we can see why some devs have to now throw a movie on, to smokescreen short gameplay. Seriously $600 + $60 a game is acceptable for 10 hours of gameplay? Welcome to planet Bovine...

Besides the fact that GoW and RE4 are regarded as some of the absolute best games of last gen...

And yes, it is acceptable that 10-hour games with no multi-player exist on the PS3. You know why? For one thing, the majority of PS3 owners AND 360 owners don't have online, so single-player is all they get. Imagine how dissapointed they'll be when they find out that GEoW only lasts them 6-8 hours with a s*** story and little to no replayability... whereas Uncharted was desinged solely as a single-player experience. This means more time put into the story and into the replayability.

You probably haven't even played GeOW, have you? It's about 10-12 hours of gameplay and has more replayibility than any PS3 game out there and probably much more than Uncharted, not to mention that it obviously has online which over 50% of xbox360 owners have. Uncharted is only single-player and it's only 10 hours, now that's bs.

You might as well forget it, they're too busy reading dev BS, beleiveing Sony overhype and praying to chadwarden that this game will amount to anything, to see how follish they look trying to justify a $660 purchase to play a 10 hour game...

 Cow axiom 101: whenever you can't win an argument, point out typos in a post...

:lol: Now that's a Lemming responce. Whatever helps you sleep better at night!

[QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"][QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"][QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"][QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"]

[QUOTE="hotdaisy18"]So Resident Evil 4's 13 hour game stopped it from being great? It's just a renter right? Oh, and God of War 1 and 2. 15 hours max, right? Geez. Those 12 hour games sure do act like renters. Multiplayer doesn't make a game as a whole, great. What's wrong with people today? Lemmings in particular. Something you drank? Ate? Pissed off about something? Logic failing? Monday? What's up Lemmings? DXGreat1_HGL

Oh ok, so now cows are going back to flip floping concerning last gen and this gen. Sorry but a 12 hour game with no multiplayer on a machine that's hyped as 'teh only next gen' machine out is unacceptable. I guess we can see why some devs have to now throw a movie on, to smokescreen short gameplay. Seriously $600 + $60 a game is acceptable for 10 hours of gameplay? Welcome to planet Bovine...

Besides the fact that GoW and RE4 are regarded as some of the absolute best games of last gen...

And yes, it is acceptable that 10-hour games with no multi-player exist on the PS3. You know why? For one thing, the majority of PS3 owners AND 360 owners don't have online, so single-player is all they get. Imagine how dissapointed they'll be when they find out that GEoW only lasts them 6-8 hours with a s*** story and little to no replayability... whereas Uncharted was desinged solely as a single-player experience. This means more time put into the story and into the replayability.

You probably haven't even played GeOW, have you? It's about 10-12 hours of gameplay and has more replayibility than any PS3 game out there and probably much more than Uncharted, not to mention that it obviously has online which over 50% of xbox360 owners have. Uncharted is only single-player and it's only 10 hours, now that's bs.

You might as well forget it, they're too busy reading dev BS, beleiveing Sony overhype and praying to chadwarden that this game will amount to anything, to see how follish they look trying to justify a $660 purchase to play a 10 hour game...

Cow axiom 101: whenever you can't win an argument, point out typos in a post...

[QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"][QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"][QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"][QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"]

[QUOTE="hotdaisy18"]So Resident Evil 4's 13 hour game stopped it from being great? It's just a renter right? Oh, and God of War 1 and 2. 15 hours max, right? Geez. Those 12 hour games sure do act like renters. Multiplayer doesn't make a game as a whole, great. What's wrong with people today? Lemmings in particular. Something you drank? Ate? Pissed off about something? Logic failing? Monday? What's up Lemmings? DXGreat1_HGL

Oh ok, so now cows are going back to flip floping concerning last gen and this gen. Sorry but a 12 hour game with no multiplayer on a machine that's hyped as 'teh only next gen' machine out is unacceptable. I guess we can see why some devs have to now throw a movie on, to smokescreen short gameplay. Seriously $600 + $60 a game is acceptable for 10 hours of gameplay? Welcome to planet Bovine...

Besides the fact that GoW and RE4 are regarded as some of the absolute best games of last gen...

And yes, it is acceptable that 10-hour games with no multi-player exist on the PS3. You know why? For one thing, the majority of PS3 owners AND 360 owners don't have online, so single-player is all they get. Imagine how dissapointed they'll be when they find out that GEoW only lasts them 6-8 hours with a s*** story and little to no replayability... whereas Uncharted was desinged solely as a single-player experience. This means more time put into the story and into the replayability.

You probably haven't even played GeOW, have you? It's about 10-12 hours of gameplay and has more replayibility than any PS3 game out there and probably much more than Uncharted, not to mention that it obviously has online which over 50% of xbox360 owners have. Uncharted is only single-player and it's only 10 hours, now that's bs.

You might as well forget it, they're too busy reading dev BS, beleiveing Sony overhype and praying to chadwarden that this game will amount to anything, to see how follish they look trying to justify a $660 purchase to play a 10 hour game...

Oh, you people crack me up... now you're acting like Uncharted is the only game. Lair, Heavenly Sword, LittleBigPlanet, Ratchet and Clank Future: Tools of Destruction, MGS4, FFXIII, SOCOM: Confrontation, Folklore, Eye of Judgement, Warhawk, Hot Shots Golf 5, Killzone 2... What's more is that this is coming from you people who back when the Xbox launched only had Halo, and until late 2002... that was pretty much it. So tell me: Did Halo alone justify a $300 console that was originally predicted to be a flop?

Yes and that list is so impressive, people are running out and buying PS3's now, right? Wait a second. You should talk, the $600 machine that had Resistence and made people wait until July, but what do you expect, the cow runs to last gen as soon as it starts to lose the argument from this gen...

Okay then, you want something current-gen?  How about this:  the PS3 is selling better than the 360 was relative to its launch sales.  While this currently does not equal beating the 360 by any means, it certainly isn't negative at all.  And what do you mean by "wait until July"?  And besides, it isn't like the 360 didn't make people wait until later to get its best games... remember how Saint's Row, Oblivion and GRAW were pushed back until later? 

[QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="BackFlip101"]

10-12 hours = Twice the length of Gears of War. Or if you were going by my friend's experience (who beat Gears in 4 hours) then it'd be 3 times as long. So Lemmings, you got nothin.

 

drsports1980

 You haven't even played Uncharted, if devs say 10-12 hours it means 6-8 hours. Such a short game without online component, PS3 has nothing good.

 I don't, I was typing the same kind of unimformed statement he did. However Epic said Gears of War would be 10-12 hours long, it can certainly take that long for some players but not the average.

[QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="BackFlip101"]

10-12 hours = Twice the length of Gears of War. Or if you were going by my friend's experience (who beat Gears in 4 hours) then it'd be 3 times as long. So Lemmings, you got nothin.

 

drsports1980

You haven't even played Uncharted, if devs say 10-12 hours it means 6-8 hours. Such a short game without online component, PS3 has nothing good.

hes making it up u can tell.  a game like uncharted how will it have multiplayer anyway?  it looks great and trophies too 

[QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"][QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"][QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"][QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"][QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"]

[QUOTE="hotdaisy18"]So Resident Evil 4's 13 hour game stopped it from being great? It's just a renter right? Oh, and God of War 1 and 2. 15 hours max, right? Geez. Those 12 hour games sure do act like renters. Multiplayer doesn't make a game as a whole, great. What's wrong with people today? Lemmings in particular. Something you drank? Ate? Pissed off about something? Logic failing? Monday? What's up Lemmings? a_ratchet_fan

Oh ok, so now cows are going back to flip floping concerning last gen and this gen. Sorry but a 12 hour game with no multiplayer on a machine that's hyped as 'teh only next gen' machine out is unacceptable. I guess we can see why some devs have to now throw a movie on, to smokescreen short gameplay. Seriously $600 + $60 a game is acceptable for 10 hours of gameplay? Welcome to planet Bovine...

Besides the fact that GoW and RE4 are regarded as some of the absolute best games of last gen...

And yes, it is acceptable that 10-hour games with no multi-player exist on the PS3. You know why? For one thing, the majority of PS3 owners AND 360 owners don't have online, so single-player is all they get. Imagine how dissapointed they'll be when they find out that GEoW only lasts them 6-8 hours with a s*** story and little to no replayability... whereas Uncharted was desinged solely as a single-player experience. This means more time put into the story and into the replayability.

You probably haven't even played GeOW, have you? It's about 10-12 hours of gameplay and has more replayibility than any PS3 game out there and probably much more than Uncharted, not to mention that it obviously has online which over 50% of xbox360 owners have. Uncharted is only single-player and it's only 10 hours, now that's bs.

You might as well forget it, they're too busy reading dev BS, beleiveing Sony overhype and praying to chadwarden that this game will amount to anything, to see how follish they look trying to justify a $660 purchase to play a 10 hour game...

Oh, you people crack me up... now you're acting like Uncharted is the only game. Lair, Heavenly Sword, LittleBigPlanet, Ratchet and Clank Future: Tools of Destruction, MGS4, FFXIII, SOCOM: Confrontation, Folklore, Eye of Judgement, Warhawk, Hot Shots Golf 5, Killzone 2... What's more is that this is coming from you people who back when the Xbox launched only had Halo, and until late 2002... that was pretty much it. So tell me: Did Halo alone justify a $300 console that was originally predicted to be a flop?

Yes and that list is so impressive, people are running out and buying PS3's now, right? Wait a second. You should talk, the $600 machine that had Resistence and made people wait until July, but what do you expect, the cow runs to last gen as soon as it starts to lose the argument from this gen...

Okay then, you want something current-gen?  How about this:  the PS3 is selling better than the 360 was relative to its launch sales.  While this currently does not equal beating the 360 by any means, it certainly isn't negative at all.  And what do you mean by "wait until July"?  And besides, it isn't like the 360 didn't make people wait until later to get its best games... remember how Saint's Row, Oblivion and GRAW were pushed back until later? 

 The XBOX360 was short in supply for months after it came out :roll:

The xbox360 has been outselling the ps3 on a month to month basis since the ps3 launch however. The xbox360 had some very nice AA titles out of the gate like CoD2, Condemned (personal fav), Kameo, Perfect Dark 0...

[QUOTE="BackFlip101"]

10-12 hours = Twice the length of Gears of War. Or if you were going by my friend's experience (who beat Gears in 4 hours) then it'd be 3 times as long. So Lemmings, you got nothin.

 

themyth01

You haven't even played Uncharted, if devs say 10-12 hours it means 6-8 hours. Such a short game without online component, PS3 has nothing good.

DMC, MGS 3 (unless you have collector's edition), GoW, Ace Combat and a load of other awesome games do not have online... and yet they are getting infinitely better scores than legions of games that do.  Online does not = quality.

[QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="BackFlip101"]

10-12 hours = Twice the length of Gears of War. Or if you were going by my friend's experience (who beat Gears in 4 hours) then it'd be 3 times as long. So Lemmings, you got nothin.

 

a_ratchet_fan

You haven't even played Uncharted, if devs say 10-12 hours it means 6-8 hours. Such a short game without online component, PS3 has nothing good.

DMC, MGS 3 (unless you have collector's edition), GoW, Ace Combat and a load of other awesome games do not have online... and yet they are getting infinitely better scores than legions of games that do. Online does not = quality.

ya i mean seriously uncharted doesnt look like it will make a great multiplayer game 

[QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="BackFlip101"]

10-12 hours = Twice the length of Gears of War. Or if you were going by my friend's experience (who beat Gears in 4 hours) then it'd be 3 times as long. So Lemmings, you got nothin.

 

a_ratchet_fan

You haven't even played Uncharted, if devs say 10-12 hours it means 6-8 hours. Such a short game without online component, PS3 has nothing good.

DMC, MGS 3 (unless you have collector's edition), GoW, Ace Combat and a load of other awesome games do not have online... and yet they are getting infinitely better scores than legions of games that do.  Online does not = quality.

 Thank you for telling me something I already know. Online merely adds replayibility to a game, if the game is good, then it's even better with online play, if the game is bad it's just bad even if it has an online component. However a good game with no online play has less replayibility than a good game with online play, so cows really can't bash the 360 games.

[QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"][QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"][QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"][QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"][QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"][QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"]

[QUOTE="hotdaisy18"]So Resident Evil 4's 13 hour game stopped it from being great? It's just a renter right? Oh, and God of War 1 and 2. 15 hours max, right? Geez. Those 12 hour games sure do act like renters. Multiplayer doesn't make a game as a whole, great. What's wrong with people today? Lemmings in particular. Something you drank? Ate? Pissed off about something? Logic failing? Monday? What's up Lemmings? themyth01

Oh ok, so now cows are going back to flip floping concerning last gen and this gen. Sorry but a 12 hour game with no multiplayer on a machine that's hyped as 'teh only next gen' machine out is unacceptable. I guess we can see why some devs have to now throw a movie on, to smokescreen short gameplay. Seriously $600 + $60 a game is acceptable for 10 hours of gameplay? Welcome to planet Bovine...

Besides the fact that GoW and RE4 are regarded as some of the absolute best games of last gen...

And yes, it is acceptable that 10-hour games with no multi-player exist on the PS3. You know why? For one thing, the majority of PS3 owners AND 360 owners don't have online, so single-player is all they get. Imagine how dissapointed they'll be when they find out that GEoW only lasts them 6-8 hours with a s*** story and little to no replayability... whereas Uncharted was desinged solely as a single-player experience. This means more time put into the story and into the replayability.

You probably haven't even played GeOW, have you? It's about 10-12 hours of gameplay and has more replayibility than any PS3 game out there and probably much more than Uncharted, not to mention that it obviously has online which over 50% of xbox360 owners have. Uncharted is only single-player and it's only 10 hours, now that's bs.

You might as well forget it, they're too busy reading dev BS, beleiveing Sony overhype and praying to chadwarden that this game will amount to anything, to see how follish they look trying to justify a $660 purchase to play a 10 hour game...

Oh, you people crack me up... now you're acting like Uncharted is the only game. Lair, Heavenly Sword, LittleBigPlanet, Ratchet and Clank Future: Tools of Destruction, MGS4, FFXIII, SOCOM: Confrontation, Folklore, Eye of Judgement, Warhawk, Hot Shots Golf 5, Killzone 2... What's more is that this is coming from you people who back when the Xbox launched only had Halo, and until late 2002... that was pretty much it. So tell me: Did Halo alone justify a $300 console that was originally predicted to be a flop?

Yes and that list is so impressive, people are running out and buying PS3's now, right? Wait a second. You should talk, the $600 machine that had Resistence and made people wait until July, but what do you expect, the cow runs to last gen as soon as it starts to lose the argument from this gen...

Okay then, you want something current-gen? How about this: the PS3 is selling better than the 360 was relative to its launch sales. While this currently does not equal beating the 360 by any means, it certainly isn't negative at all. And what do you mean by "wait until July"? And besides, it isn't like the 360 didn't make people wait until later to get its best games... remember how Saint's Row, Oblivion and GRAW were pushed back until later?

The XBOX360 was short in supply for months after it came out :roll:

The xbox360 has been outselling the ps3 on a month to month basis since the ps3 launch however. The xbox360 had some very nice AA titles out of the gate like CoD2, Condemned (personal fav), Kameo, Perfect Dark 0...

The PS3 also had shortages... While Condemned and CoD2 may have been good, CoD2 was better on the PC (and Condemned was too once it was released on the PC).  As for Kameo and Perfect Dark 0...RARE is losing its touch.

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[QUOTE="hotdaisy18"]So Resident Evil 4's 13 hour game stopped it from being great? It's just a renter right? Oh, and God of War 1 and 2. 15 hours max, right? Geez. Those 12 hour games sure do act like renters. Multiplayer doesn't make a game as a whole, great. What's wrong with people today? Lemmings in particular. Something you drank? Ate? Pissed off about something? Logic failing? Monday? What's up Lemmings? a_ratchet_fan

Oh ok, so now cows are going back to flip floping concerning last gen and this gen. Sorry but a 12 hour game with no multiplayer on a machine that's hyped as 'teh only next gen' machine out is unacceptable. I guess we can see why some devs have to now throw a movie on, to smokescreen short gameplay. Seriously $600 + $60 a game is acceptable for 10 hours of gameplay? Welcome to planet Bovine...

Besides the fact that GoW and RE4 are regarded as some of the absolute best games of last gen...

And yes, it is acceptable that 10-hour games with no multi-player exist on the PS3. You know why? For one thing, the majority of PS3 owners AND 360 owners don't have online, so single-player is all they get. Imagine how dissapointed they'll be when they find out that GEoW only lasts them 6-8 hours with a s*** story and little to no replayability... whereas Uncharted was desinged solely as a single-player experience. This means more time put into the story and into the replayability.

You probably haven't even played GeOW, have you? It's about 10-12 hours of gameplay and has more replayibility than any PS3 game out there and probably much more than Uncharted, not to mention that it obviously has online which over 50% of xbox360 owners have. Uncharted is only single-player and it's only 10 hours, now that's bs.

You might as well forget it, they're too busy reading dev BS, beleiveing Sony overhype and praying to chadwarden that this game will amount to anything, to see how follish they look trying to justify a $660 purchase to play a 10 hour game...

Oh, you people crack me up... now you're acting like Uncharted is the only game. Lair, Heavenly Sword, LittleBigPlanet, Ratchet and Clank Future: Tools of Destruction, MGS4, FFXIII, SOCOM: Confrontation, Folklore, Eye of Judgement, Warhawk, Hot Shots Golf 5, Killzone 2... What's more is that this is coming from you people who back when the Xbox launched only had Halo, and until late 2002... that was pretty much it. So tell me: Did Halo alone justify a $300 console that was originally predicted to be a flop?

Yes and that list is so impressive, people are running out and buying PS3's now, right? Wait a second. You should talk, the $600 machine that had Resistence and made people wait until July, but what do you expect, the cow runs to last gen as soon as it starts to lose the argument from this gen...

Okay then, you want something current-gen?  How about this:  the PS3 is selling better than the 360 was relative to its launch sales.  While this currently does not equal beating the 360 by any means, it certainly isn't negative at all.  And what do you mean by "wait until July"?  And besides, it isn't like the 360 didn't make people wait until later to get its best games... remember how Saint's Row, Oblivion and GRAW were pushed back until later? 

 Unlike the PS3, that only had Resistence, 360 had a lunch library and didn't the 360 have launch shortages? Sorry, failed again.

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[QUOTE="hotdaisy18"]So Resident Evil 4's 13 hour game stopped it from being great? It's just a renter right? Oh, and God of War 1 and 2. 15 hours max, right? Geez. Those 12 hour games sure do act like renters. Multiplayer doesn't make a game as a whole, great. What's wrong with people today? Lemmings in particular. Something you drank? Ate? Pissed off about something? Logic failing? Monday? What's up Lemmings? DXGreat1_HGL

Oh ok, so now cows are going back to flip floping concerning last gen and this gen. Sorry but a 12 hour game with no multiplayer on a machine that's hyped as 'teh only next gen' machine out is unacceptable. I guess we can see why some devs have to now throw a movie on, to smokescreen short gameplay. Seriously $600 + $60 a game is acceptable for 10 hours of gameplay? Welcome to planet Bovine...

Besides the fact that GoW and RE4 are regarded as some of the absolute best games of last gen...

And yes, it is acceptable that 10-hour games with no multi-player exist on the PS3. You know why? For one thing, the majority of PS3 owners AND 360 owners don't have online, so single-player is all they get. Imagine how dissapointed they'll be when they find out that GEoW only lasts them 6-8 hours with a s*** story and little to no replayability... whereas Uncharted was desinged solely as a single-player experience. This means more time put into the story and into the replayability.

You probably haven't even played GeOW, have you? It's about 10-12 hours of gameplay and has more replayibility than any PS3 game out there and probably much more than Uncharted, not to mention that it obviously has online which over 50% of xbox360 owners have. Uncharted is only single-player and it's only 10 hours, now that's bs.

You might as well forget it, they're too busy reading dev BS, beleiveing Sony overhype and praying to chadwarden that this game will amount to anything, to see how follish they look trying to justify a $660 purchase to play a 10 hour game...

Oh, you people crack me up... now you're acting like Uncharted is the only game. Lair, Heavenly Sword, LittleBigPlanet, Ratchet and Clank Future: Tools of Destruction, MGS4, FFXIII, SOCOM: Confrontation, Folklore, Eye of Judgement, Warhawk, Hot Shots Golf 5, Killzone 2... What's more is that this is coming from you people who back when the Xbox launched only had Halo, and until late 2002... that was pretty much it. So tell me: Did Halo alone justify a $300 console that was originally predicted to be a flop?

Yes and that list is so impressive, people are running out and buying PS3's now, right? Wait a second. You should talk, the $600 machine that had Resistence and made people wait until July, but what do you expect, the cow runs to last gen as soon as it starts to lose the argument from this gen...

Okay then, you want something current-gen? How about this: the PS3 is selling better than the 360 was relative to its launch sales. While this currently does not equal beating the 360 by any means, it certainly isn't negative at all. And what do you mean by "wait until July"? And besides, it isn't like the 360 didn't make people wait until later to get its best games... remember how Saint's Row, Oblivion and GRAW were pushed back until later?

Unlike the PS3, that only had Resistence, 360 had a lunch library and didn't the 360 have launch shortages? Sorry, failed again.

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10-12 hours = Twice the length of Gears of War. Or if you were going by my friend's experience (who beat Gears in 4 hours) then it'd be 3 times as long. So Lemmings, you got nothin.

 

themyth01

You haven't even played Uncharted, if devs say 10-12 hours it means 6-8 hours. Such a short game without online component, PS3 has nothing good.

DMC, MGS 3 (unless you have collector's edition), GoW, Ace Combat and a load of other awesome games do not have online... and yet they are getting infinitely better scores than legions of games that do. Online does not = quality.

Thank you for telling me something I already know. Online merely adds replayibility to a game, if the game is good, then it's even better with online play, if the game is bad it's just bad even if it has an online component. However a good game with no online play has less replayibility than a good game with online play, so cows really can't bash the 360 games.

Online does not necessarily add replayability, though.  While in most cases it does, there are plenty of cases where the online is implemented even worse than the single-player, as the developer half-@$$ed it.  Naughty Dog, which happens to have an outstanding track-record, does not half-@$$ any of its games.  Instead of saying it'll suck because of its length, you should be basing quality on the experience delivered while playing it.  As the game hasn't come out, we're all purely speculating.  And yes, Cows did bash GEoW while it wasn't out, but some people don't represent the entire population. 

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Previewed by IGN: 10-12 hour plot-driven expedition with a single ending but widened paths.10-12 hour plot-driven expedition with a single ending but widened paths.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/788/788740p1.html

 

No please just no, i want this game so badly but 10-12h with no mp, my god that's too short, it has to be atleast 20-30h, damn :cry:

HoldThePhone

That sucks, i dont want this to be another GeOW

geow has MP and 3 different difficulties.

failed. 

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[QUOTE="hotdaisy18"]So Resident Evil 4's 13 hour game stopped it from being great? It's just a renter right? Oh, and God of War 1 and 2. 15 hours max, right? Geez. Those 12 hour games sure do act like renters. Multiplayer doesn't make a game as a whole, great. What's wrong with people today? Lemmings in particular. Something you drank? Ate? Pissed off about something? Logic failing? Monday? What's up Lemmings? a_ratchet_fan

Oh ok, so now cows are going back to flip floping concerning last gen and this gen. Sorry but a 12 hour game with no multiplayer on a machine that's hyped as 'teh only next gen' machine out is unacceptable. I guess we can see why some devs have to now throw a movie on, to smokescreen short gameplay. Seriously $600 + $60 a game is acceptable for 10 hours of gameplay? Welcome to planet Bovine...

Besides the fact that GoW and RE4 are regarded as some of the absolute best games of last gen...

And yes, it is acceptable that 10-hour games with no multi-player exist on the PS3. You know why? For one thing, the majority of PS3 owners AND 360 owners don't have online, so single-player is all they get. Imagine how dissapointed they'll be when they find out that GEoW only lasts them 6-8 hours with a s*** story and little to no replayability... whereas Uncharted was desinged solely as a single-player experience. This means more time put into the story and into the replayability.

You probably haven't even played GeOW, have you? It's about 10-12 hours of gameplay and has more replayibility than any PS3 game out there and probably much more than Uncharted, not to mention that it obviously has online which over 50% of xbox360 owners have. Uncharted is only single-player and it's only 10 hours, now that's bs.

You might as well forget it, they're too busy reading dev BS, beleiveing Sony overhype and praying to chadwarden that this game will amount to anything, to see how follish they look trying to justify a $660 purchase to play a 10 hour game...

Oh, you people crack me up... now you're acting like Uncharted is the only game. Lair, Heavenly Sword, LittleBigPlanet, Ratchet and Clank Future: Tools of Destruction, MGS4, FFXIII, SOCOM: Confrontation, Folklore, Eye of Judgement, Warhawk, Hot Shots Golf 5, Killzone 2... What's more is that this is coming from you people who back when the Xbox launched only had Halo, and until late 2002... that was pretty much it. So tell me: Did Halo alone justify a $300 console that was originally predicted to be a flop?

Yes and that list is so impressive, people are running out and buying PS3's now, right? Wait a second. You should talk, the $600 machine that had Resistence and made people wait until July, but what do you expect, the cow runs to last gen as soon as it starts to lose the argument from this gen...

Okay then, you want something current-gen? How about this: the PS3 is selling better than the 360 was relative to its launch sales. While this currently does not equal beating the 360 by any means, it certainly isn't negative at all. And what do you mean by "wait until July"? And besides, it isn't like the 360 didn't make people wait until later to get its best games... remember how Saint's Row, Oblivion and GRAW were pushed back until later?

The XBOX360 was short in supply for months after it came out :roll:

The xbox360 has been outselling the ps3 on a month to month basis since the ps3 launch however. The xbox360 had some very nice AA titles out of the gate like CoD2, Condemned (personal fav), Kameo, Perfect Dark 0...

The PS3 also had shortages... While Condemned and CoD2 may have been good, CoD2 was better on the PC (and Condemned was too once it was released on the PC).  As for Kameo and Perfect Dark 0...RARE is losing its touch.

 Where did PS3 have shortages?  Condemned, Cod2, Kameo and PDZ were still better then the whole PS3 launch library minus Resistance.

With rising development costs, expect shorter games to become the norm.