Uncharted to be only 10-12h long?

[QUOTE="HoldThePhone"][QUOTE="skyform"]

Previewed by IGN: 10-12 hour plot-driven expedition with a single ending but widened paths.10-12 hour plot-driven expedition with a single ending but widened paths.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/788/788740p1.html

 

No please just no, i want this game so badly but 10-12h with no mp, my god that's too short, it has to be atleast 20-30h, damn :cry:

KAS3Y_JAM3Z

That sucks, i dont want this to be another GeOW

geow has MP and 3 different difficulties.

failed.

we dont even know what the difficulties of this game are or if there are even some extra modes ect. 

[QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"][QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"][QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"][QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"][QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"][QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"]

[QUOTE="hotdaisy18"]So Resident Evil 4's 13 hour game stopped it from being great? It's just a renter right? Oh, and God of War 1 and 2. 15 hours max, right? Geez. Those 12 hour games sure do act like renters. Multiplayer doesn't make a game as a whole, great. What's wrong with people today? Lemmings in particular. Something you drank? Ate? Pissed off about something? Logic failing? Monday? What's up Lemmings? DXGreat1_HGL

Oh ok, so now cows are going back to flip floping concerning last gen and this gen. Sorry but a 12 hour game with no multiplayer on a machine that's hyped as 'teh only next gen' machine out is unacceptable. I guess we can see why some devs have to now throw a movie on, to smokescreen short gameplay. Seriously $600 + $60 a game is acceptable for 10 hours of gameplay? Welcome to planet Bovine...

Besides the fact that GoW and RE4 are regarded as some of the absolute best games of last gen...

And yes, it is acceptable that 10-hour games with no multi-player exist on the PS3. You know why? For one thing, the majority of PS3 owners AND 360 owners don't have online, so single-player is all they get. Imagine how dissapointed they'll be when they find out that GEoW only lasts them 6-8 hours with a s*** story and little to no replayability... whereas Uncharted was desinged solely as a single-player experience. This means more time put into the story and into the replayability.

You probably haven't even played GeOW, have you? It's about 10-12 hours of gameplay and has more replayibility than any PS3 game out there and probably much more than Uncharted, not to mention that it obviously has online which over 50% of xbox360 owners have. Uncharted is only single-player and it's only 10 hours, now that's bs.

You might as well forget it, they're too busy reading dev BS, beleiveing Sony overhype and praying to chadwarden that this game will amount to anything, to see how follish they look trying to justify a $660 purchase to play a 10 hour game...

Oh, you people crack me up... now you're acting like Uncharted is the only game. Lair, Heavenly Sword, LittleBigPlanet, Ratchet and Clank Future: Tools of Destruction, MGS4, FFXIII, SOCOM: Confrontation, Folklore, Eye of Judgement, Warhawk, Hot Shots Golf 5, Killzone 2... What's more is that this is coming from you people who back when the Xbox launched only had Halo, and until late 2002... that was pretty much it. So tell me: Did Halo alone justify a $300 console that was originally predicted to be a flop?

Yes and that list is so impressive, people are running out and buying PS3's now, right? Wait a second. You should talk, the $600 machine that had Resistence and made people wait until July, but what do you expect, the cow runs to last gen as soon as it starts to lose the argument from this gen...

Okay then, you want something current-gen? How about this: the PS3 is selling better than the 360 was relative to its launch sales. While this currently does not equal beating the 360 by any means, it certainly isn't negative at all. And what do you mean by "wait until July"? And besides, it isn't like the 360 didn't make people wait until later to get its best games... remember how Saint's Row, Oblivion and GRAW were pushed back until later?

Unlike the PS3, that only had Resistence, 360 had a lunch library and didn't the 360 have launch shortages? Sorry, failed again.

THE PS3 HAD LAUNCH SHORTAGES AS WELL!!!! my god, do you people have (selective) amnesia or something? The PS3 did not "only" have Resistance. It also had Fight Night Round 3, which while a port, was said to have been better than the 360 version.

[QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"][QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"][QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"][QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"][QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"]

[QUOTE="hotdaisy18"]So Resident Evil 4's 13 hour game stopped it from being great? It's just a renter right? Oh, and God of War 1 and 2. 15 hours max, right? Geez. Those 12 hour games sure do act like renters. Multiplayer doesn't make a game as a whole, great. What's wrong with people today? Lemmings in particular. Something you drank? Ate? Pissed off about something? Logic failing? Monday? What's up Lemmings? hotdaisy18

Oh ok, so now cows are going back to flip floping concerning last gen and this gen. Sorry but a 12 hour game with no multiplayer on a machine that's hyped as 'teh only next gen' machine out is unacceptable. I guess we can see why some devs have to now throw a movie on, to smokescreen short gameplay. Seriously $600 + $60 a game is acceptable for 10 hours of gameplay? Welcome to planet Bovine...

Besides the fact that GoW and RE4 are regarded as some of the absolute best games of last gen...

And yes, it is acceptable that 10-hour games with no multi-player exist on the PS3. You know why? For one thing, the majority of PS3 owners AND 360 owners don't have online, so single-player is all they get. Imagine how dissapointed they'll be when they find out that GEoW only lasts them 6-8 hours with a s*** story and little to no replayability... whereas Uncharted was desinged solely as a single-player experience. This means more time put into the story and into the replayability.

You probably haven't even played GeOW, have you? It's about 10-12 hours of gameplay and has more replayibility than any PS3 game out there and probably much more than Uncharted, not to mention that it obviously has online which over 50% of xbox360 owners have. Uncharted is only single-player and it's only 10 hours, now that's bs.

You might as well forget it, they're too busy reading dev BS, beleiveing Sony overhype and praying to chadwarden that this game will amount to anything, to see how follish they look trying to justify a $660 purchase to play a 10 hour game...

Cow axiom 101: whenever you can't win an argument, point out typos in a post...

:lol: Now that's a Lemming responce. Whatever helps you sleep better at night!

speaking of which, you spelled response wrong. 

The PS3 also had shortages... While Condemned and CoD2 may have been good, CoD2 was better on the PC (and Condemned was too once it was released on the PC).  As for Kameo and Perfect Dark 0...RARE is losing its touch.

a_ratchet_fan

Dude, Rare lost its touch the day everyone jumped ship when the company was sold to Microsoft. We all remember how great Grabbed by the Ghoulies was, lets not forget how Conker flopped as well. Lemmings thought PDZ and Kameo were great yet they had awful gameplay elements and PDZ didnt stack up at all compared to PD64, not to mention they ruined Joana's image by making her look like a cheap hooker. :lol:

Rare will never be the same unless Microsoft sells them back to Nintendo and all the original staff came back, however most of them run their own companies now anyway and dont want to be stuck as sole developers for one company. There are hardly and developers from the old Rare days working at that company, thats just the way it is.

 

THE PS3 HAD LAUNCH SHORTAGES AS WELL!!!! my god, do you people have (selective) amnesia or something? The PS3 did not "only" have Resistance. It also had Fight Night Round 3, which while a port, was said to have been better than the 360 version.

 

 

a_ratchet_fan

The PS3 had shortages for about a month or so, by late December to early January it was readily available.

[QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"][QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="BackFlip101"]

10-12 hours = Twice the length of Gears of War. Or if you were going by my friend's experience (who beat Gears in 4 hours) then it'd be 3 times as long. So Lemmings, you got nothin.

 

a_ratchet_fan

You haven't even played Uncharted, if devs say 10-12 hours it means 6-8 hours. Such a short game without online component, PS3 has nothing good.

DMC, MGS 3 (unless you have collector's edition), GoW, Ace Combat and a load of other awesome games do not have online... and yet they are getting infinitely better scores than legions of games that do. Online does not = quality.

Thank you for telling me something I already know. Online merely adds replayibility to a game, if the game is good, then it's even better with online play, if the game is bad it's just bad even if it has an online component. However a good game with no online play has less replayibility than a good game with online play, so cows really can't bash the 360 games.

Online does not necessarily add replayability, though.  While in most cases it does, there are plenty of cases where the online is implemented even worse than the single-player, as the developer half-@$$ed it.  Naughty Dog, which happens to have an outstanding track-record, does not half-@$$ any of its games.  Instead of saying it'll suck because of its length, you should be basing quality on the experience delivered while playing it.  As the game hasn't come out, we're all purely speculating.  And yes, Cows did bash GEoW while it wasn't out, but some people don't represent the entire population. 

 You should try and read because I've never said Uncharted will suck and let alone because of its short single player campaign. Cows however can't bash Gears or pretty much any xbox360 game when the xbox360 gets short games and at the same time say ps3 games are good even if they're short, that's inconsistent. This also proves the minor difference that blu-ray will provide this generation, even when the devs got the memo to say it was needed, for such short games, I'm pretty  sure the xbox360 can pull them off in one disc.

[QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"][QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"][QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"][QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"][QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"][QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"][QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"]

[QUOTE="hotdaisy18"]So Resident Evil 4's 13 hour game stopped it from being great? It's just a renter right? Oh, and God of War 1 and 2. 15 hours max, right? Geez. Those 12 hour games sure do act like renters. Multiplayer doesn't make a game as a whole, great. What's wrong with people today? Lemmings in particular. Something you drank? Ate? Pissed off about something? Logic failing? Monday? What's up Lemmings? DXGreat1_HGL

Oh ok, so now cows are going back to flip floping concerning last gen and this gen. Sorry but a 12 hour game with no multiplayer on a machine that's hyped as 'teh only next gen' machine out is unacceptable. I guess we can see why some devs have to now throw a movie on, to smokescreen short gameplay. Seriously $600 + $60 a game is acceptable for 10 hours of gameplay? Welcome to planet Bovine...

Besides the fact that GoW and RE4 are regarded as some of the absolute best games of last gen...

And yes, it is acceptable that 10-hour games with no multi-player exist on the PS3. You know why? For one thing, the majority of PS3 owners AND 360 owners don't have online, so single-player is all they get. Imagine how dissapointed they'll be when they find out that GEoW only lasts them 6-8 hours with a s*** story and little to no replayability... whereas Uncharted was desinged solely as a single-player experience. This means more time put into the story and into the replayability.

You probably haven't even played GeOW, have you? It's about 10-12 hours of gameplay and has more replayibility than any PS3 game out there and probably much more than Uncharted, not to mention that it obviously has online which over 50% of xbox360 owners have. Uncharted is only single-player and it's only 10 hours, now that's bs.

You might as well forget it, they're too busy reading dev BS, beleiveing Sony overhype and praying to chadwarden that this game will amount to anything, to see how follish they look trying to justify a $660 purchase to play a 10 hour game...

Oh, you people crack me up... now you're acting like Uncharted is the only game. Lair, Heavenly Sword, LittleBigPlanet, Ratchet and Clank Future: Tools of Destruction, MGS4, FFXIII, SOCOM: Confrontation, Folklore, Eye of Judgement, Warhawk, Hot Shots Golf 5, Killzone 2... What's more is that this is coming from you people who back when the Xbox launched only had Halo, and until late 2002... that was pretty much it. So tell me: Did Halo alone justify a $300 console that was originally predicted to be a flop?

Yes and that list is so impressive, people are running out and buying PS3's now, right? Wait a second. You should talk, the $600 machine that had Resistence and made people wait until July, but what do you expect, the cow runs to last gen as soon as it starts to lose the argument from this gen...

Okay then, you want something current-gen? How about this: the PS3 is selling better than the 360 was relative to its launch sales. While this currently does not equal beating the 360 by any means, it certainly isn't negative at all. And what do you mean by "wait until July"? And besides, it isn't like the 360 didn't make people wait until later to get its best games... remember how Saint's Row, Oblivion and GRAW were pushed back until later?

The XBOX360 was short in supply for months after it came out :roll:

The xbox360 has been outselling the ps3 on a month to month basis since the ps3 launch however. The xbox360 had some very nice AA titles out of the gate like CoD2, Condemned (personal fav), Kameo, Perfect Dark 0...

The PS3 also had shortages... While Condemned and CoD2 may have been good, CoD2 was better on the PC (and Condemned was too once it was released on the PC). As for Kameo and Perfect Dark 0...RARE is losing its touch.

Where did PS3 have shortages? Condemned, Cod2, Kameo and PDZ were still better then the whole PS3 launch library minus Resistance.

Oh my god... where have you been for the past 6 months?  Sony was only able to get 1 million world-wide, excluding Australia and Europe.   It's called a shortage.

 

THE PS3 HAD LAUNCH SHORTAGES AS WELL!!!! my god, do you people have (selective) amnesia or something? The PS3 did not "only" have Resistance. It also had Fight Night Round 3, which while a port, was said to have been better than the 360 version.

 

 

a_ratchet_fan

 Where? I was in the St Louis area and could get one at Best Buy and the Target where I worked. I also remember multiple posts showing PS3's available. Heck, Best Buy would bring them out one at a time to make it look like they were in demand.

Care to throw out examples? Concidering I have to hold these silly little Lemmings down...I'll do my best to answer you.

hotdaisy18

you're too kind. do u really want me to look them up? the one you stood out the most for me was topic you made couple of days ago bashing the 360 and ended up getting locked after few post. 

[QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"][QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"][QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="BackFlip101"]

10-12 hours = Twice the length of Gears of War. Or if you were going by my friend's experience (who beat Gears in 4 hours) then it'd be 3 times as long. So Lemmings, you got nothin.

 

themyth01

You haven't even played Uncharted, if devs say 10-12 hours it means 6-8 hours. Such a short game without online component, PS3 has nothing good.

DMC, MGS 3 (unless you have collector's edition), GoW, Ace Combat and a load of other awesome games do not have online... and yet they are getting infinitely better scores than legions of games that do. Online does not = quality.

Thank you for telling me something I already know. Online merely adds replayibility to a game, if the game is good, then it's even better with online play, if the game is bad it's just bad even if it has an online component. However a good game with no online play has less replayibility than a good game with online play, so cows really can't bash the 360 games.

Online does not necessarily add replayability, though. While in most cases it does, there are plenty of cases where the online is implemented even worse than the single-player, as the developer half-@$$ed it. Naughty Dog, which happens to have an outstanding track-record, does not half-@$$ any of its games. Instead of saying it'll suck because of its length, you should be basing quality on the experience delivered while playing it. As the game hasn't come out, we're all purely speculating. And yes, Cows did bash GEoW while it wasn't out, but some people don't represent the entire population.

You should try and read because I've never said Uncharted will suck and let alone because of its short single player campaign. Cows however can't bash Gears or pretty much any xbox360 game when the xbox360 gets short games and at the same time say ps3 are good when they've said that the short length is the reason why some 360 games are bad, see that's inconsistent. This also proves the minor difference that blu-ray will provide this generation, even when the devs got the memo to say it was needed, for such short games, I'm pretty sure the xbox360 can pull them off in one disc.

A bunch of first-generation games prove that the Blu-ray is a minor difference?!  Your inconsistency of logic is shown already.  Hell, Epic was even saying back when it was being developed that Gears might span multiple DVDs... ever wonder why Gears was only 6-8 hours? 

[QUOTE="BackFlip101"]

10-12 hours = Twice the length of Gears of War. Or if you were going by my friend's experience (who beat Gears in 4 hours) then it'd be 3 times as long. So Lemmings, you got nothin.

 

themyth01

 You haven't even played Uncharted, if devs say 10-12 hours it means 6-8 hours. Such a short game without online component, PS3 has nothing good.

At least PS3 games wont get ported over to the PC, say goodbye to all your exclusive franchises like Gears of War lemmings, cause all your favourite games will wind up on the PC or get launched on the PC at the same time (like BioShock will be and C&C which was launched earlier).

[QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"]

 

THE PS3 HAD LAUNCH SHORTAGES AS WELL!!!! my god, do you people have (selective) amnesia or something? The PS3 did not "only" have Resistance. It also had Fight Night Round 3, which while a port, was said to have been better than the 360 version.

 

 

DXGreat1_HGL

Where? I was in the St Louis area and could get one at Best Buy and the Target where I worked. I also remember multiple posts showing PS3's available. Heck, Best Buy would bring them out one at a time to make it look like they were in demand.

Sony was only able to get 1 million shipped WORLD WIDE, and they couldn't even get Australia and Europe until nearly 6 months later.  Do you people have selective memories or what.

[QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="BackFlip101"]

10-12 hours = Twice the length of Gears of War. Or if you were going by my friend's experience (who beat Gears in 4 hours) then it'd be 3 times as long. So Lemmings, you got nothin.

 

DSgamer64

You haven't even played Uncharted, if devs say 10-12 hours it means 6-8 hours. Such a short game without online component, PS3 has nothing good.

At least PS3 games wont get ported over to the PC, say goodbye to all your exclusive franchises like Gears of War lemmings, cause all your favourite games will wind up on the PC or get launched on the PC at the same time (like BioShock will be and C&C which was launched earlier).

nooooo! say it aint sooooo whyyyyyyy+ 

[QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"][QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"][QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="BackFlip101"]

10-12 hours = Twice the length of Gears of War. Or if you were going by my friend's experience (who beat Gears in 4 hours) then it'd be 3 times as long. So Lemmings, you got nothin.

 

a_ratchet_fan

You haven't even played Uncharted, if devs say 10-12 hours it means 6-8 hours. Such a short game without online component, PS3 has nothing good.

DMC, MGS 3 (unless you have collector's edition), GoW, Ace Combat and a load of other awesome games do not have online... and yet they are getting infinitely better scores than legions of games that do. Online does not = quality.

Thank you for telling me something I already know. Online merely adds replayibility to a game, if the game is good, then it's even better with online play, if the game is bad it's just bad even if it has an online component. However a good game with no online play has less replayibility than a good game with online play, so cows really can't bash the 360 games.

Online does not necessarily add replayability, though. While in most cases it does, there are plenty of cases where the online is implemented even worse than the single-player, as the developer half-@$$ed it. Naughty Dog, which happens to have an outstanding track-record, does not half-@$$ any of its games. Instead of saying it'll suck because of its length, you should be basing quality on the experience delivered while playing it. As the game hasn't come out, we're all purely speculating. And yes, Cows did bash GEoW while it wasn't out, but some people don't represent the entire population.

You should try and read because I've never said Uncharted will suck and let alone because of its short single player campaign. Cows however can't bash Gears or pretty much any xbox360 game when the xbox360 gets short games and at the same time say ps3 are good when they've said that the short length is the reason why some 360 games are bad, see that's inconsistent. This also proves the minor difference that blu-ray will provide this generation, even when the devs got the memo to say it was needed, for such short games, I'm pretty sure the xbox360 can pull them off in one disc.

A bunch of first-generation games prove that the Blu-ray is a minor difference?!  Your inconsistency of logic is shown already.  Hell, Epic was even saying back when it was being developed that Gears might span multiple DVDs... ever wonder why Gears was only 6-8 hours? 

 You shouldn't use words of which you don't know their meaning, like logic. Oblivion fits in a single DVD and it's the longest game on the PS3. Unless it uses CGI, MS has the tools to fit pretty much any game in a single disc like we've been seeing over and over and over. Not only do multiplatform games fit on a single DVD, they look better on the xbox360 as well.

[QUOTE="DSgamer64"][QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="BackFlip101"]

10-12 hours = Twice the length of Gears of War. Or if you were going by my friend's experience (who beat Gears in 4 hours) then it'd be 3 times as long. So Lemmings, you got nothin.

 

anshuk20002

You haven't even played Uncharted, if devs say 10-12 hours it means 6-8 hours. Such a short game without online component, PS3 has nothing good.

At least PS3 games wont get ported over to the PC, say goodbye to all your exclusive franchises like Gears of War lemmings, cause all your favourite games will wind up on the PC or get launched on the PC at the same time (like BioShock will be and C&C which was launched earlier).

nooooo! say it aint sooooo whyyyyyyy+ 

 Beats having a game drought and nothing to play for months. And you also forget xbox360 gets PS3 exclusives now too.

[QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"][QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"][QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"][QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="BackFlip101"]

10-12 hours = Twice the length of Gears of War. Or if you were going by my friend's experience (who beat Gears in 4 hours) then it'd be 3 times as long. So Lemmings, you got nothin.

 

themyth01

You haven't even played Uncharted, if devs say 10-12 hours it means 6-8 hours. Such a short game without online component, PS3 has nothing good.

DMC, MGS 3 (unless you have collector's edition), GoW, Ace Combat and a load of other awesome games do not have online... and yet they are getting infinitely better scores than legions of games that do. Online does not = quality.

Thank you for telling me something I already know. Online merely adds replayibility to a game, if the game is good, then it's even better with online play, if the game is bad it's just bad even if it has an online component. However a good game with no online play has less replayibility than a good game with online play, so cows really can't bash the 360 games.

Online does not necessarily add replayability, though. While in most cases it does, there are plenty of cases where the online is implemented even worse than the single-player, as the developer half-@$$ed it. Naughty Dog, which happens to have an outstanding track-record, does not half-@$$ any of its games. Instead of saying it'll suck because of its length, you should be basing quality on the experience delivered while playing it. As the game hasn't come out, we're all purely speculating. And yes, Cows did bash GEoW while it wasn't out, but some people don't represent the entire population.

You should try and read because I've never said Uncharted will suck and let alone because of its short single player campaign. Cows however can't bash Gears or pretty much any xbox360 game when the xbox360 gets short games and at the same time say ps3 are good when they've said that the short length is the reason why some 360 games are bad, see that's inconsistent. This also proves the minor difference that blu-ray will provide this generation, even when the devs got the memo to say it was needed, for such short games, I'm pretty sure the xbox360 can pull them off in one disc.

A bunch of first-generation games prove that the Blu-ray is a minor difference?! Your inconsistency of logic is shown already. Hell, Epic was even saying back when it was being developed that Gears might span multiple DVDs... ever wonder why Gears was only 6-8 hours?

You shouldn't use words of which you don't know their meaning, like logic. Oblivion fits in a single DVD and it's the longest game on the PS3. Unless it uses CGI, MS has the tools to fit pretty much any game in a single disc like we've been seeing over and over and over. Not only do multiplatform games fit on a single DVD, they look better on the xbox360 as well.

It's called first-gen port rushes... again, you people are forgetting the 360's launch.  Madden on the PS2 and Xbox beat the **** out of Madden on the 360 in everything but graphics.  NBA live... don't even bother.  EA even got sued by the NBA for "general lack of quality".  Now THAT's saying something. 

[QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="BackFlip101"]

10-12 hours = Twice the length of Gears of War. Or if you were going by my friend's experience (who beat Gears in 4 hours) then it'd be 3 times as long. So Lemmings, you got nothin.

 

DSgamer64

 You haven't even played Uncharted, if devs say 10-12 hours it means 6-8 hours. Such a short game without online component, PS3 has nothing good.

At least PS3 games wont get ported over to the PC, say goodbye to all your exclusive franchises like Gears of War lemmings, cause all your favourite games will wind up on the PC or get launched on the PC at the same time (like BioShock will be and C&C which was launched earlier).

A bunch of first-generation games prove that the Blu-ray is a minor difference?!  Your inconsistency of logic is shown already.  Hell, Epic was even saying back when it was being developed that Gears might span multiple DVDs... ever wonder why Gears was only 6-8 hours? 

a_ratchet_fan

*sigh* disk space has very little impact on game length, you people really need to stop talking about things you know nothing about.

[QUOTE="anshuk20002"][QUOTE="DSgamer64"][QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="BackFlip101"]

10-12 hours = Twice the length of Gears of War. Or if you were going by my friend's experience (who beat Gears in 4 hours) then it'd be 3 times as long. So Lemmings, you got nothin.

 

themyth01

You haven't even played Uncharted, if devs say 10-12 hours it means 6-8 hours. Such a short game without online component, PS3 has nothing good.

At least PS3 games wont get ported over to the PC, say goodbye to all your exclusive franchises like Gears of War lemmings, cause all your favourite games will wind up on the PC or get launched on the PC at the same time (like BioShock will be and C&C which was launched earlier).

nooooo! say it aint sooooo whyyyyyyy+

Beats having a game drought and nothing to play for months. And you also forget xbox360 gets PS3 exclusives now too.

You know, it works the other way around as well... you do know that the PS3 is getting Saint's Row, right? 

[QUOTE="anshuk20002"][QUOTE="DSgamer64"][QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="BackFlip101"]

10-12 hours = Twice the length of Gears of War. Or if you were going by my friend's experience (who beat Gears in 4 hours) then it'd be 3 times as long. So Lemmings, you got nothin.

 

themyth01

You haven't even played Uncharted, if devs say 10-12 hours it means 6-8 hours. Such a short game without online component, PS3 has nothing good.

At least PS3 games wont get ported over to the PC, say goodbye to all your exclusive franchises like Gears of War lemmings, cause all your favourite games will wind up on the PC or get launched on the PC at the same time (like BioShock will be and C&C which was launched earlier).

nooooo! say it aint sooooo whyyyyyyy+

Beats having a game drought and nothing to play for months. And you also forget xbox360 gets PS3 exclusives now too.

dude ps3 has games too ya know they got bunch of AA and also oblivion.  thats not a drought.  and 360 cool 

[QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"][QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"]

 

THE PS3 HAD LAUNCH SHORTAGES AS WELL!!!! my god, do you people have (selective) amnesia or something? The PS3 did not "only" have Resistance. It also had Fight Night Round 3, which while a port, was said to have been better than the 360 version.

 

 

a_ratchet_fan

Where? I was in the St Louis area and could get one at Best Buy and the Target where I worked. I also remember multiple posts showing PS3's available. Heck, Best Buy would bring them out one at a time to make it look like they were in demand.

Sony was only able to get 1 million shipped WORLD WIDE, and they couldn't even get Australia and Europe until nearly 6 months later.  Do you people have selective memories or what.

 They didn't have to wait 6 months, just convert the unsold inventoy they had in early January on.

[QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="anshuk20002"][QUOTE="DSgamer64"][QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="BackFlip101"]

10-12 hours = Twice the length of Gears of War. Or if you were going by my friend's experience (who beat Gears in 4 hours) then it'd be 3 times as long. So Lemmings, you got nothin.

 

a_ratchet_fan

You haven't even played Uncharted, if devs say 10-12 hours it means 6-8 hours. Such a short game without online component, PS3 has nothing good.

At least PS3 games wont get ported over to the PC, say goodbye to all your exclusive franchises like Gears of War lemmings, cause all your favourite games will wind up on the PC or get launched on the PC at the same time (like BioShock will be and C&C which was launched earlier).

nooooo! say it aint sooooo whyyyyyyy+

Beats having a game drought and nothing to play for months. And you also forget xbox360 gets PS3 exclusives now too.

You know, it works the other way around as well... you do know that the PS3 is getting Saint's Row, right? 

Actually the PS3 version got cancelled, they've moved on to Saint's Row 2 now, which is multiplat.

10-12 hours = Twice the length of Gears of War. Or if you were going by my friend's experience (who beat Gears in 4 hours) then it'd be 3 times as long. So Lemmings, you got nothin.

 

BackFlip101

[QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"]

A bunch of first-generation games prove that the Blu-ray is a minor difference?! Your inconsistency of logic is shown already. Hell, Epic was even saying back when it was being developed that Gears might span multiple DVDs... ever wonder why Gears was only 6-8 hours?

TyrantDragon55

*sigh* disk space has very little impact on game length, you people really need to stop talking about things you know nothing about.

You're right... however, what does affect disc space are the extra things, such as extremely high-res textures, streaming open connected worlds, etc.  Gears of War happened to have extremely high-res textures which took quite a bit of condensing to fit on a DVD... thus the game's short length, as one level of Gears probably takes 400+ megs.

[QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"][QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"]

A bunch of first-generation games prove that the Blu-ray is a minor difference?! Your inconsistency of logic is shown already. Hell, Epic was even saying back when it was being developed that Gears might span multiple DVDs... ever wonder why Gears was only 6-8 hours?

a_ratchet_fan

*sigh* disk space has very little impact on game length, you people really need to stop talking about things you know nothing about.

You're right... however, what does affect disc space are the extra things, such as extremely high-res textures, streaming open connected worlds, etc.  Gears of War happened to have extremely high-res textures which took quite a bit of condensing to fit on a DVD... thus the game's short length, as one level of Gears probably takes 400+ megs.

No they don't, the two biggest things that take up space on a disk are FMVs and HD sound. Actual game data takes up very little space and can be compressed without losing quality quite easily.

[QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"][QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"][QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"]

 

THE PS3 HAD LAUNCH SHORTAGES AS WELL!!!! my god, do you people have (selective) amnesia or something? The PS3 did not "only" have Resistance. It also had Fight Night Round 3, which while a port, was said to have been better than the 360 version.

 

 

DXGreat1_HGL

Where? I was in the St Louis area and could get one at Best Buy and the Target where I worked. I also remember multiple posts showing PS3's available. Heck, Best Buy would bring them out one at a time to make it look like they were in demand.

Sony was only able to get 1 million shipped WORLD WIDE, and they couldn't even get Australia and Europe until nearly 6 months later. Do you people have selective memories or what.

They didn't have to wait 6 months, just convert the unsold inventoy they had in early January on.

What do you mean they didn't have to wait 6 months?!  Sure, they could have imported, but PS3's weren't for sale in European and Australian gaming outlets until March. 

[QUOTE="hotdaisy18"][QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"][QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"][QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"][QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"][QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"]

[QUOTE="hotdaisy18"]So Resident Evil 4's 13 hour game stopped it from being great? It's just a renter right? Oh, and God of War 1 and 2. 15 hours max, right? Geez. Those 12 hour games sure do act like renters. Multiplayer doesn't make a game as a whole, great. What's wrong with people today? Lemmings in particular. Something you drank? Ate? Pissed off about something? Logic failing? Monday? What's up Lemmings? KAS3Y_JAM3Z

Oh ok, so now cows are going back to flip floping concerning last gen and this gen. Sorry but a 12 hour game with no multiplayer on a machine that's hyped as 'teh only next gen' machine out is unacceptable. I guess we can see why some devs have to now throw a movie on, to smokescreen short gameplay. Seriously $600 + $60 a game is acceptable for 10 hours of gameplay? Welcome to planet Bovine...

Besides the fact that GoW and RE4 are regarded as some of the absolute best games of last gen...

And yes, it is acceptable that 10-hour games with no multi-player exist on the PS3. You know why? For one thing, the majority of PS3 owners AND 360 owners don't have online, so single-player is all they get. Imagine how dissapointed they'll be when they find out that GEoW only lasts them 6-8 hours with a s*** story and little to no replayability... whereas Uncharted was desinged solely as a single-player experience. This means more time put into the story and into the replayability.

You probably haven't even played GeOW, have you? It's about 10-12 hours of gameplay and has more replayibility than any PS3 game out there and probably much more than Uncharted, not to mention that it obviously has online which over 50% of xbox360 owners have. Uncharted is only single-player and it's only 10 hours, now that's bs.

You might as well forget it, they're too busy reading dev BS, beleiveing Sony overhype and praying to chadwarden that this game will amount to anything, to see how follish they look trying to justify a $660 purchase to play a 10 hour game...

Cow axiom 101: whenever you can't win an argument, point out typos in a post...

:lol: Now that's a Lemming responce. Whatever helps you sleep better at night!

speaking of which, you spelled response wrong. 

Capitalization is your friend.

[QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"][QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"][QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"]

A bunch of first-generation games prove that the Blu-ray is a minor difference?! Your inconsistency of logic is shown already. Hell, Epic was even saying back when it was being developed that Gears might span multiple DVDs... ever wonder why Gears was only 6-8 hours?

TyrantDragon55

*sigh* disk space has very little impact on game length, you people really need to stop talking about things you know nothing about.

You're right... however, what does affect disc space are the extra things, such as extremely high-res textures, streaming open connected worlds, etc. Gears of War happened to have extremely high-res textures which took quite a bit of condensing to fit on a DVD... thus the game's short length, as one level of Gears probably takes 400+ megs.

No they don't, the two biggest things that take up space on a disk are FMVs and HD sound.

Okay, you're right, I don't know what I'm talking about.  In that case, though, games like MGS4 and FFXIII should be using the Blu-ray a lot, as Hideo Kojima said he plans to use the 8-channel sound provided by the PS3, and FF has always had CG and FMV. 

10 - 12 hours isn't bad at all.

It's the no multiplayer that's gonna kill it... if there's no multiplayer, the single-player should be substantially longer, but I'm sure the game will be fun regardless. 

[QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"][QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"][QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"][QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"]

A bunch of first-generation games prove that the Blu-ray is a minor difference?! Your inconsistency of logic is shown already. Hell, Epic was even saying back when it was being developed that Gears might span multiple DVDs... ever wonder why Gears was only 6-8 hours?

a_ratchet_fan

*sigh* disk space has very little impact on game length, you people really need to stop talking about things you know nothing about.

You're right... however, what does affect disc space are the extra things, such as extremely high-res textures, streaming open connected worlds, etc. Gears of War happened to have extremely high-res textures which took quite a bit of condensing to fit on a DVD... thus the game's short length, as one level of Gears probably takes 400+ megs.

No they don't, the two biggest things that take up space on a disk are FMVs and HD sound.

Okay, you're right, I don't know what I'm talking about.  In that case, though, games like MGS4 and FFXIII should be using the Blu-ray a lot, as Hideo Kojima said he plans to use the 8-channel sound provided by the PS3, and FF has always had CG and FMV. 

Final Fantasy I'll agree with, we haven't seen enough of MGS4 for me to judge it in that respect. The big advantage to Blu-ray at the moment is that the developers can put multiple language sound files on the same disk, meaning they can relase just one version instead of different versions for each region.

[QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"][QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"][QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"][QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"][QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"]

A bunch of first-generation games prove that the Blu-ray is a minor difference?! Your inconsistency of logic is shown already. Hell, Epic was even saying back when it was being developed that Gears might span multiple DVDs... ever wonder why Gears was only 6-8 hours?

TyrantDragon55

*sigh* disk space has very little impact on game length, you people really need to stop talking about things you know nothing about.

You're right... however, what does affect disc space are the extra things, such as extremely high-res textures, streaming open connected worlds, etc. Gears of War happened to have extremely high-res textures which took quite a bit of condensing to fit on a DVD... thus the game's short length, as one level of Gears probably takes 400+ megs.

No they don't, the two biggest things that take up space on a disk are FMVs and HD sound.

Okay, you're right, I don't know what I'm talking about. In that case, though, games like MGS4 and FFXIII should be using the Blu-ray a lot, as Hideo Kojima said he plans to use the 8-channel sound provided by the PS3, and FF has always had CG and FMV.

Final Fantasy I'll agree with, we haven't seen enough of MGS4 for me to judge it in that respect. The big advantage to Blu-ray at the moment is that the developers can put multiple language sound files on the same disk, meaning they can relase just one version instead of different versions for each region.

LOL... Jak II and 3 were doing about 10 different languages on a DVD... I think what you mean is having different TV formats on one disck (PAL and NTSC) 

LOL... Jak II and 3 were doing about 10 different languages on a DVD... I think what you mean is having different TV formats on one disck (PAL and NTSC) 

a_ratchet_fan

Jack 2 and 3 weren't in HD, and didn't have HD quality audio files.

LOL GeOW was that long and cows said "it sucked", lets see them try and defend this.... *grabs a bucket of popcorn*donut349

[QUOTE="hotdaisy18"]

Care to throw out examples? Concidering I have to hold these silly little Lemmings down...I'll do my best to answer you.

istreakforfood

you're too kind. do u really want me to look them up? the one you stood out the most for me was topic you made couple of days ago bashing the 360 and ended up getting locked after few post. 

Really now? Interseting. I accept your challenge. Do show these "so called" threads that seem to stick in the back of your mind. Do say. Do show. I'm willing to bet you'll find zero 360 bashing threads.

[QUOTE="istreakforfood"][QUOTE="hotdaisy18"]

Care to throw out examples? Concidering I have to hold these silly little Lemmings down...I'll do my best to answer you.

hotdaisy18

you're too kind. do u really want me to look them up? the one you stood out the most for me was topic you made couple of days ago bashing the 360 and ended up getting locked after few post.

Really now? Interseting. I accept your challenge. Do show these "so called" threads that seem to stick in the back of your mind. Do say. Do show. I'm willing to bet you'll find zero 360 bashing threads.

Are you serious? I usually don't defend people but I see them all the time. Heck I've seen you back the 360 in threads yourself. 

dont hype this puppy - trust me.

[QUOTE="hotdaisy18"][QUOTE="istreakforfood"][QUOTE="hotdaisy18"]

Care to throw out examples? Concidering I have to hold these silly little Lemmings down...I'll do my best to answer you.

DoctorBunny

you're too kind. do u really want me to look them up? the one you stood out the most for me was topic you made couple of days ago bashing the 360 and ended up getting locked after few post.

Really now? Interseting. I accept your challenge. Do show these "so called" threads that seem to stick in the back of your mind. Do say. Do show. I'm willing to bet you'll find zero 360 bashing threads.

Are you serious? I usually don't defend people but I see them all the time. Heck I've seen you back the 360 in threads yourself. 

I own a 360 and PS3. I have no reason to bash the 360. I love both consoles pretty equal.

ee[QUOTE="DoctorBunny"][QUOTE="hotdaisy18"][QUOTE="istreakforfood"][QUOTE="hotdaisy18"]

Care to throw out examples? Concidering I have to hold these silly little Lemmings down...I'll do my best to answer you.

hotdaisy18

you're too kind. do u really want me to look them up? the one you stood out the most for me was topic you made couple of days ago bashing the 360 and ended up getting locked after few post.

Really now? Interseting. I accept your challenge. Do show these "so called" threads that seem to stick in the back of your mind. Do say. Do show. I'm willing to bet you'll find zero 360 bashing threads.

Are you serious? I usually don't defend people but I see them all the time. Heck I've seen you back the 360 in threads yourself.

I own a 360 and PS3. I have no reason to bash the 360. I love both consoles pretty equal.

Well then it was someone with the same exact sig as yours 

10 hours of greatness >>>>>> 30 hours of repetition.

But I guess we can stop hearing about how Blu-Ray will make games longer, amirite?   

10 hours of greatness >>>>>> 30 hours of repetition.

But I guess we can stop hearing about how Blu-Ray will make games longer, amirite?   

  

Dreams-Visions

thats assuming its greatness -- and even if it is, 10 hours without multiplayer just isn't worth it to me, esp seeing this game has been confirmed to be linear and scripted. if it was like crysis / farcry on PC and things were a little bit random it might make it more excusable...

So... Blu Ray is needed for 12 hour experiences? Wow, PS3 is amazing...ssbfalco

Yeah, that's Sony for ya... 

[QUOTE="hotdaisy18"]ee[QUOTE="DoctorBunny"][QUOTE="hotdaisy18"][QUOTE="istreakforfood"][QUOTE="hotdaisy18"]

Care to throw out examples? Concidering I have to hold these silly little Lemmings down...I'll do my best to answer you.

DoctorBunny

you're too kind. do u really want me to look them up? the one you stood out the most for me was topic you made couple of days ago bashing the 360 and ended up getting locked after few post.

Really now? Interseting. I accept your challenge. Do show these "so called" threads that seem to stick in the back of your mind. Do say. Do show. I'm willing to bet you'll find zero 360 bashing threads.

Are you serious? I usually don't defend people but I see them all the time. Heck I've seen you back the 360 in threads yourself.

I own a 360 and PS3. I have no reason to bash the 360. I love both consoles pretty equal.

Well then it was someone with the same exact sig as yours 

Show be proof then. No one's been able to. Oh that's right. Because it doesn't exist.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

10 hours of greatness >>>>>> 30 hours of repetition.

But I guess we can stop hearing about how Blu-Ray will make games longer, amirite?

 

3picuri3

thats assuming its greatness -- and even if it is, 10 hours without multiplayer just isn't worth it to me, esp seeing this game has been confirmed to be linear and scripted. if it was like crysis / farcry on PC and things were a little bit random it might make it more excusable...

Every played God of War?  Kameo?  GRAW?  All of those are well worth the cost of entry.  None of them are near 20 hours. 

[QUOTE="ssbfalco"]

So... Blu Ray is needed for 12 hour experiences? Wow, PS3 is amazing...

 

/PS2

R-Dot-Yung

Blu Ray is why MGS4, Lair, Uncharted, FFXIII, and a tons more games wont go to the 360, cuz they are over 9GB

LMFAO. Dude. Lair isn't over 9 GB, nor is Uncharted and nor is FF. I can assure you that much. Quote me if you'd like. MGS 4 is the only game out of that list that's over a DVD long, and that's ONLY because all of the cutscenes are saved as uncompressed movie formats. One more thing; FF's going to 360. Once again, quote me if you'd like. I'll laugh at you when I'm playing it on my 360. 

[QUOTE="DSgamer64"][QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="BackFlip101"]

10-12 hours = Twice the length of Gears of War. Or if you were going by my friend's experience (who beat Gears in 4 hours) then it'd be 3 times as long. So Lemmings, you got nothin.

 

DXGreat1_HGL

 You haven't even played Uncharted, if devs say 10-12 hours it means 6-8 hours. Such a short game without online component, PS3 has nothing good.

At least PS3 games wont get ported over to the PC, say goodbye to all your exclusive franchises like Gears of War lemmings, cause all your favourite games will wind up on the PC or get launched on the PC at the same time (like BioShock will be and C&C which was launched earlier).

True enough I guess. Still though wait for UT3, there will be plenty of mods and maps, and lemmings are going to be the poor suckers who will have to shell out money to play the game online and extra cash to get the maps, and UT pretty much is lame unless you are playing it online. Most shooters are not more then 15 hours so there is no use in complaining about the games length, yes Uncharted should be longer but hey, its a shooter, Gears was 8 hours tops with online but seriously the single player was not all that great in my mind, just like UT's has always been. It also depends on which method of play you prefer, online or offline, Uncharted should at least have a multiplayer offline component.