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PALGN: Can you tell us why Uncharted is only possible on the PlayStation 3?


EW: There are a few things. Primarily the whole experience is enabled by the use of the hard drive. If we did not have the hard drive then we could not present the game in the seamless load free way that we are. After you start until you turn the console off and go eat your lunch and come back there is not going to be another load time and you can play the game from start to finish. That was really key to us something that we established with Jak and Daxter and it keeps you immersed in the experience. As soon as you hit those load screens, as soon as you have to take that break, you may put the controller down, you may do something else we really just want to engross you in this experience. So, the hard drive really helped with that. The other thing that we've got going for us is the Blu Ray. We filled that thing up to 24 plus gigs, it was right at the end where we were literally running out of place where we were having to start pulling some stuff out, we ended up fortunately finding this unused cache of audio lines we were able to pull out to save some space so we could get everything in that we wanted to get in. I'm not going to stand here and say it would have been impossible to do on DVD but it would have been a different game, it really would have. It could have looked worse, we would have had to make concessions in terms of our compression. We would have had to spend a lot more developer resources focusing on how to get it on the disk when we could have been creating the game, making it more fun, making it more beautiful. So I'm really happy just to have that. We're still on single layer and this is our first game out of the gates. So I highly suspect that on our future games we'll even go to a double layer and we're going to even start putting more than 24-25 gigs into a single game.

The other important thing for us was the use of the Cell processor and how it enabled our animation system to work. Everybody who is working on the PlayStation 3 or the Xbox 360 gets this increase in the number of polygons they can use, they get an increase in the fact that now we've got these really cool pixel shaders and we can do these really cool materials like water and leather and put bark on trees. So you're going to get an immediate upgrade for free and you just get it with the hardware. But, what's not going to come for free is your animation and you're animation if you've got these really detailed environments it's not going to mesh. We wanted to put a lot of our engineering effort into making sure that we had an animation system that would allow, what I think are some of the most talented animators in the industry to really create and have their vision come through and be supported by the technology.

Basically, in Jak I we had somewhere in the vicinity of 300-350 animations for Jak and everyone was really happy with the fluidity of his movement and the response. In Uncharted, Drake has got more than 3500 animations and the difference is we're now taking the cell processor and we're taking say two dozen of those animations, like we've got his running animations, flinching animations, reloading animations, rolling animations, just dozens of animations all at once being layered on top of each other and then the cell processor recreates on the fly the single frame of animation that you need to be able to play the game at that moment and the fact we can just dump more and more work on that processor and its SPUs just means we can free up our CPU to do more general purpose tasks.

PALGN: So if you had to make an estimation how much % of the power of the PlayStation 3 do you think you used?

EW: Okay well it's not going to be an exact science but it's interesting that you bring the question up because we just recently before I came here as we were wrapping up production, we did do some profiling of the performance of the PlayStation 3. As far as the Cell processor and the SPU's are concerned we were only using about 1/3 to 1/2 of the SPU's at one time and so there is still quite a bit more we can do, I was also comparing where we're at at the end of development for Uncharted compared to where we were at the end of development for Jak and Daxter and we've been able to do so much more with the PlayStation 3 and there's still so much more on top potential. I really am excited about what we'll be able to do 2-3 games down the road, I mean just looking back on the difference between Jak I and Jak III is amazing.

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couldn't you have just posted a link and noted the specific paragraphs and lines you wanted to refer to?
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Interesting...I wonder what's taking up so much space. 25GB seems like alot.
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Why doe sit matter how many gigs it is when the game will not be longer than 15 hrs at most. Blu-ray is a gimmick. It is only good for Japanese developers and their CG movies. Not saying it is a bad thing, but I am convinced blu-ray is not needed for gaming, but it is nice to have.
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Super Computer confirmed!
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how long is this game going to be? (Heavenyl Sword?)
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Interesting...I wonder what's taking up so much space. 25GB seems like alot.FLAMEINSANE

15 different language localisations andprerendered ambient level lighting with different sets of textures (obviously ps3 cant do them real time lol)

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Why doe sit matter how many gigs it is when the game will not be longer than 15 hrs at most. Blu-ray is a gimmick. It is only good for Japanese developers and their CG movies. Not saying it is a bad thing, but I am convinced blu-ray is not needed for gaming, but it is nice to have.too_much_eslim

Thats why Gears was 8 hours.
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Why doe sit matter how many gigs it is when the game will not be longer than 15 hrs at most. Blu-ray is a gimmick. It is only good for Japanese developers and their CG movies. Not saying it is a bad thing, but I am convinced blu-ray is not needed for gaming, but it is nice to have.too_much_eslim
so you are saying having extra space to create a game is a gimmick?
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This is coming from a very well respected company. I am buying this game fore sure even though GS will score it below 8.
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couldn't you have just posted a link and noted the specific paragraphs and lines you wanted to refer to? krunkfu2

Why does it matter?

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:lol: all these ps3 devs trying to fill bluecrap with even more crap, when will the learn, a game is only as good as the funn factor not but how bigger it is. the 360's so much smaller and yet it makes me more excited.
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Why doe sit matter how many gigs it is when the game will not be longer than 15 hrs at most. Blu-ray is a gimmick. It is only good for Japanese developers and their CG movies. Not saying it is a bad thing, but I am convinced blu-ray is not needed for gaming, but it is nice to have.too_much_eslim

The game loads seamlessly, I doubt this could be done on DVD.

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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]Why doe sit matter how many gigs it is when the game will not be longer than 15 hrs at most. Blu-ray is a gimmick. It is only good for Japanese developers and their CG movies. Not saying it is a bad thing, but I am convinced blu-ray is not needed for gaming, but it is nice to have.Tnasty11
so you are saying having extra space to create a game is a gimmick?

lmfao

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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]Why doe sit matter how many gigs it is when the game will not be longer than 15 hrs at most. Blu-ray is a gimmick. It is only good for Japanese developers and their CG movies. Not saying it is a bad thing, but I am convinced blu-ray is not needed for gaming, but it is nice to have.-Renegade

The game loads seamlessly, I doubt this could be done on DVD.

Funny thing is, most of the games that are not able to run on 360, have been flops, see an early indication?...lol

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:lol: all these ps3 devs trying to fill bluecrap with even more crap, when will the learn, a game is only as good as the funn factor not but how bigger it is. the 360's so much smaller and yet it makes me more excited.amorbis1001

I'm not going to stand here and say it would have been impossible to do on DVD but it would have been a different game, it really would have.

he saying it could HAVE

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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]Why doe sit matter how many gigs it is when the game will not be longer than 15 hrs at most. Blu-ray is a gimmick. It is only good for Japanese developers and their CG movies. Not saying it is a bad thing, but I am convinced blu-ray is not needed for gaming, but it is nice to have.-Renegade

The game loads seamlessly, I doubt this could be done on DVD.

wtf, dvd does streaming like every other optical drives, the reason for all that space is due to blue ray bandwith limit which is of course less the 360's, so the devs has to reduce loading by puting the same texture files in more places on the bd than keeping it in ram, :lol: they say bd yet they dont know crap about it, these cows crack me up :lol:

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I think Mass Effect will be more epic and have better graphics but we will see. This isn't the first time I have heard cows or Sony exclusive developers suggest blue ray and Cell were needed for certain games and were going to make them better then what was possible on 360. LAIR, Heavenly Sword, Motorstorm ect.
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[QUOTE="-Renegade"]

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]Why doe sit matter how many gigs it is when the game will not be longer than 15 hrs at most. Blu-ray is a gimmick. It is only good for Japanese developers and their CG movies. Not saying it is a bad thing, but I am convinced blu-ray is not needed for gaming, but it is nice to have.amorbis1001

The game loads seamlessly, I doubt this could be done on DVD.

wtf, dvd does streaming like every other optical drives, the reason for all that space is due to blue ray bandwith limit which is of course less the 360's, so the devs has to reduce loading by puting the same texture files in more places on the bd than keeping it in ram, :lol: they say bd yet they dont know crap about it, these cows crack me up :lol:

ps3>360

nexxt.

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[QUOTE="amorbis1001"][QUOTE="-Renegade"]

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]Why doe sit matter how many gigs it is when the game will not be longer than 15 hrs at most. Blu-ray is a gimmick. It is only good for Japanese developers and their CG movies. Not saying it is a bad thing, but I am convinced blu-ray is not needed for gaming, but it is nice to have.springz300

The game loads seamlessly, I doubt this could be done on DVD.

wtf, dvd does streaming like every other optical drives, the reason for all that space is due to blue ray bandwith limit which is of course less the 360's, so the devs has to reduce loading by puting the same texture files in more places on the bd than keeping it in ram, :lol: they say bd yet they dont know crap about it, these cows crack me up :lol:

ps3>360

nexxt.

:lol: thats a good comback, :lol:

trying to avoid ownage.

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[QUOTE="-Renegade"]

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]Why doe sit matter how many gigs it is when the game will not be longer than 15 hrs at most. Blu-ray is a gimmick. It is only good for Japanese developers and their CG movies. Not saying it is a bad thing, but I am convinced blu-ray is not needed for gaming, but it is nice to have.amorbis1001

The game loads seamlessly, I doubt this could be done on DVD.

wtf, dvd does streaming like every other optical drives, the reason for all that space is due to blue ray bandwith limit which is of course less the 360's, so the devs has to reduce loading by puting the same texture files in more places on the bd than keeping it in ram, :lol: they say bd yet they dont know crap about it, these cows crack me up :lol:

So your telling me a 24gb game can be done on 360 while loading seamessly? :?

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This is one top notch developer. One of the best in the industry. Very good read.
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[QUOTE="amorbis1001"][QUOTE="-Renegade"]

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]Why doe sit matter how many gigs it is when the game will not be longer than 15 hrs at most. Blu-ray is a gimmick. It is only good for Japanese developers and their CG movies. Not saying it is a bad thing, but I am convinced blu-ray is not needed for gaming, but it is nice to have.springz300

The game loads seamlessly, I doubt this could be done on DVD.

wtf, dvd does streaming like every other optical drives, the reason for all that space is due to blue ray bandwith limit which is of course less the 360's, so the devs has to reduce loading by puting the same texture files in more places on the bd than keeping it in ram, :lol: they say bd yet they dont know crap about it, these cows crack me up :lol:

ps3>360

nexxt.

no 360>ps3
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[QUOTE="amorbis1001"][QUOTE="-Renegade"]

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]Why doe sit matter how many gigs it is when the game will not be longer than 15 hrs at most. Blu-ray is a gimmick. It is only good for Japanese developers and their CG movies. Not saying it is a bad thing, but I am convinced blu-ray is not needed for gaming, but it is nice to have.-Renegade

The game loads seamlessly, I doubt this could be done on DVD.

wtf, dvd does streaming like every other optical drives, the reason for all that space is due to blue ray bandwith limit which is of course less the 360's, so the devs has to reduce loading by puting the same texture files in more places on the bd than keeping it in ram, :lol: they say bd yet they dont know crap about it, these cows crack me up :lol:

So your telling me a 24gb game can be done on 360 while loading seamessly? :?

hell yes, Bd-r bandwith is so low, devs has to use the extra space on bd to keep it in check, any game could be loaded seamellessly, ever figured out how devs got gta to load seamless, by seamlessly adding and removing textures and models of a certain veiw distance from the rasterizer.

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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]Why doe sit matter how many gigs it is when the game will not be longer than 15 hrs at most. Blu-ray is a gimmick. It is only good for Japanese developers and their CG movies. Not saying it is a bad thing, but I am convinced blu-ray is not needed for gaming, but it is nice to have.six_shot

Thats why Gears was 8 hours.

And that was on a DVD disc. ZTP, was on a a DVD and it was well over 30 hours long. And the game being on Blu-ray cannot not achieve or break the 8 hour mark? What are they putting in the disc that takes up so much space?
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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]Why doe sit matter how many gigs it is when the game will not be longer than 15 hrs at most. Blu-ray is a gimmick. It is only good for Japanese developers and their CG movies. Not saying it is a bad thing, but I am convinced blu-ray is not needed for gaming, but it is nice to have.Tnasty11
so you are saying having extra space to create a game is a gimmick?

No, telling me how much space it takes up just to try to prove Sony's point that blu-ray is needed is a gimmick.
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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]Why doe sit matter how many gigs it is when the game will not be longer than 15 hrs at most. Blu-ray is a gimmick. It is only good for Japanese developers and their CG movies. Not saying it is a bad thing, but I am convinced blu-ray is not needed for gaming, but it is nice to have.six_shot

Thats why Gears was 8 hours.

And Heavenly Sword was 7 hours because....?

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how long is this game going to be? (Heavenyl Sword?)Art_424

The game is going to have 4 difficulties I doubt that will be the case.

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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]Why doe sit matter how many gigs it is when the game will not be longer than 15 hrs at most. Blu-ray is a gimmick. It is only good for Japanese developers and their CG movies. Not saying it is a bad thing, but I am convinced blu-ray is not needed for gaming, but it is nice to have.six_shot

Thats why Gears was 8 hours.

and that why teh mighty awsome 5 hour heavenly sword was so short at 22 gigs and teh all mighthy 10 gigs of sound data couldn't save it from flopping.

lol

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[QUOTE="-Renegade"][QUOTE="amorbis1001"][QUOTE="-Renegade"]

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]Why doe sit matter how many gigs it is when the game will not be longer than 15 hrs at most. Blu-ray is a gimmick. It is only good for Japanese developers and their CG movies. Not saying it is a bad thing, but I am convinced blu-ray is not needed for gaming, but it is nice to have.amorbis1001

The game loads seamlessly, I doubt this could be done on DVD.

wtf, dvd does streaming like every other optical drives, the reason for all that space is due to blue ray bandwith limit which is of course less the 360's, so the devs has to reduce loading by puting the same texture files in more places on the bd than keeping it in ram, :lol: they say bd yet they dont know crap about it, these cows crack me up :lol:

So your telling me a 24gb game can be done on 360 while loading seamessly? :?

hell yes, Bd-r bandwith is so low, devs has to use the extra space on bd to keep it in check, any game could be loaded seamellessly, ever figured out how devs got gta to load seamless, by seamlessly adding and removing textures and models of a certain veiw distance from the rasterizer.

I'm not going to stand here and say it would have been impossible to do on DVD but it would have been a different game, it really would have. It could have looked worse, we would have had to make concessions in terms of our compression.

I'd rather have the game how it was meant to be experienced not with limitations.

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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]Why doe sit matter how many gigs it is when the game will not be longer than 15 hrs at most. Blu-ray is a gimmick. It is only good for Japanese developers and their CG movies. Not saying it is a bad thing, but I am convinced blu-ray is not needed for gaming, but it is nice to have.six_shot

Thats why Gears was 8 hours.

Mass Effect can go from 30 to 40 hrs, and if you do all the side quests 60 to 70 hrs. It also looks better than Uncharted and is on 1 DVD.
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Why doe sit matter how many gigs it is when the game will not be longer than 15 hrs at most. Blu-ray is a gimmick. It is only good for Japanese developers and their CG movies. Not saying it is a bad thing, but I am convinced blu-ray is not needed for gaming, but it is nice to have.too_much_eslim

It matters when it makes those 15 hours have diverse environments and plenty of detail in everything. Resolutions went up by 3-6 times and Ram by 16 times. A game that took up 4GB last gen is going to take up a hell of a lot more space if it has the amout of detail and variety increase to compare with last gen's jump.

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[QUOTE="six_shot"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]Why doe sit matter how many gigs it is when the game will not be longer than 15 hrs at most. Blu-ray is a gimmick. It is only good for Japanese developers and their CG movies. Not saying it is a bad thing, but I am convinced blu-ray is not needed for gaming, but it is nice to have.mjarantilla


Thats why Gears was 8 hours.

And Heavenly Sword was 7 hours because....?

most action games are short likeDMC and GOW
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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

[QUOTE="six_shot"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]Why doe sit matter how many gigs it is when the game will not be longer than 15 hrs at most. Blu-ray is a gimmick. It is only good for Japanese developers and their CG movies. Not saying it is a bad thing, but I am convinced blu-ray is not needed for gaming, but it is nice to have.Tnasty11


Thats why Gears was 8 hours.

And Heavenly Sword was 7 hours because....?

most action games are short likeDMC and GOW

Yeah, and so are most shooters. Tell that to six_shot, blaming DVD for Gears' lack of length.
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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]Why doe sit matter how many gigs it is when the game will not be longer than 15 hrs at most. Blu-ray is a gimmick. It is only good for Japanese developers and their CG movies. Not saying it is a bad thing, but I am convinced blu-ray is not needed for gaming, but it is nice to have.Lazy_Boy88

It matters when it makes those 15 hours have diverse environments and plenty of detail in everything. Resolutions went up by 3-6 times and Ram by 16 times. A game that took up 4GB last gen is going to take up a hell of a lot more space if it has the amout of detail and variety increase to compare with last gen's jump.

So the fact the best looking game this year has more content and last abot 3 to 5 times longer than Uncharted is on the xbox 360 using 1 dvd. Yup I am talking about Mass effect.
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[QUOTE="amorbis1001"][QUOTE="-Renegade"][QUOTE="amorbis1001"][QUOTE="-Renegade"]

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]Why doe sit matter how many gigs it is when the game will not be longer than 15 hrs at most. Blu-ray is a gimmick. It is only good for Japanese developers and their CG movies. Not saying it is a bad thing, but I am convinced blu-ray is not needed for gaming, but it is nice to have.-Renegade


So your telling me a 24gb game can be done on 360 while loading seamessly? :?

hell yes, Bd-r bandwith is so low, devs has to use the extra space on bd to keep it in check, any game could be loaded seamellessly, ever figured out how devs got gta to load seamless, by seamlessly adding and removing textures and models of a certain veiw distance from the rasterizer.

I'm not going to stand here and say it would have been impossible to do on DVD but it would have been a different game, it really would have. It could have looked worse, we would have had to make concessions in terms of our compression.

I'd rather have the game how it was meant to be experienced not with limitations.

limitations of wat, uncompressed audio which difference cant be difrenciate from compressed audio, or graphics that is just a clone that is being render multiple times to preserve load times, or language from every corner of the earth, come on, BD-r isn't a necesity and only a luxury that dev use to over come ps3 hurdles. come on now, BD-r is just another format, with everything uncompressed. there isnt limitations, I bet uncharted 2 (if there is one) will have MP and a longer single play and yet still be equal to or less than 24 gigs. it is just dev talk.

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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

[QUOTE="six_shot"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]Why doe sit matter how many gigs it is when the game will not be longer than 15 hrs at most. Blu-ray is a gimmick. It is only good for Japanese developers and their CG movies. Not saying it is a bad thing, but I am convinced blu-ray is not needed for gaming, but it is nice to have.Tnasty11


Thats why Gears was 8 hours.

And Heavenly Sword was 7 hours because....?

most action games are short likeDMC and GOW

But they are DVD's. Unlike PS3 exclusives, which are on Blu-ray yet 7 hrs long. Explanation please?
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[QUOTE="Tnasty11"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]Why doe sit matter how many gigs it is when the game will not be longer than 15 hrs at most. Blu-ray is a gimmick. It is only good for Japanese developers and their CG movies. Not saying it is a bad thing, but I am convinced blu-ray is not needed for gaming, but it is nice to have.too_much_eslim
so you are saying having extra space to create a game is a gimmick?

No, telling me how much space it takes up just to try to prove Sony's point that blu-ray is needed is a gimmick.

so saying how space was needed to make a game is a gimmick?

i am not saying you are wrong but is this what you are saying

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[QUOTE="Art_424"]how long is this game going to be? (Heavenyl Sword?)-Renegade

The game is going to have 4 difficulties I doubt that will be the case.

Well, of course difficulties make a game longer to pass, but that can apply to any game, try another answer.

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[QUOTE="Tnasty11"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

[QUOTE="six_shot"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]Why doe sit matter how many gigs it is when the game will not be longer than 15 hrs at most. Blu-ray is a gimmick. It is only good for Japanese developers and their CG movies. Not saying it is a bad thing, but I am convinced blu-ray is not needed for gaming, but it is nice to have.THE_PREZIDENT


Thats why Gears was 8 hours.

And Heavenly Sword was 7 hours because....?

most action games are short likeDMC and GOW

But they are DVD's. Unlike PS3 exclusives, which are on Blu-ray yet 7 hrs long. Explanation please?

It is because those games have 22 gigs of sweet uncompressed sound.
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[QUOTE="THE_PREZIDENT"][QUOTE="Tnasty11"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

[QUOTE="six_shot"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]Why doe sit matter how many gigs it is when the game will not be longer than 15 hrs at most. Blu-ray is a gimmick. It is only good for Japanese developers and their CG movies. Not saying it is a bad thing, but I am convinced blu-ray is not needed for gaming, but it is nice to have.too_much_eslim


Thats why Gears was 8 hours.

And Heavenly Sword was 7 hours because....?

most action games are short likeDMC and GOW

But they are DVD's. Unlike PS3 exclusives, which are on Blu-ray yet 7 hrs long. Explanation please?

It is because those games have 22 gigs of sweet uncompressed sound.

So you get more sound than actualgame?....lol

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[QUOTE="Art_424"]how long is this game going to be? (Heavenyl Sword?)Art_424

The game is going to have 4 difficulties I doubt that will be the case.

Well, of course difficulties make a game longer to pass, but that can apply to any game, try another answer.

Blue ray is needed for extra difficulty levels noob. Playing through the same levels with harder enemies takes up so much extra space and would only be possible with teh booray.

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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]Why doe sit matter how many gigs it is when the game will not be longer than 15 hrs at most. Blu-ray is a gimmick. It is only good for Japanese developers and their CG movies. Not saying it is a bad thing, but I am convinced blu-ray is not needed for gaming, but it is nice to have.six_shot

Thats why Gears was 8 hours.

it also had this weird little thing...i know cows dont really know what it is....mulitplayer....

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[QUOTE="Tnasty11"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

[QUOTE="six_shot"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]Why doe sit matter how many gigs it is when the game will not be longer than 15 hrs at most. Blu-ray is a gimmick. It is only good for Japanese developers and their CG movies. Not saying it is a bad thing, but I am convinced blu-ray is not needed for gaming, but it is nice to have.THE_PREZIDENT


Thats why Gears was 8 hours.

And Heavenly Sword was 7 hours because....?

most action games are short likeDMC and GOW

But they are DVD's. Unlike PS3 exclusives, which are on Blu-ray yet 7 hrs long. Explanation please?

developers didn't use that space on the game length instead they on other stuff
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[QUOTE="THE_PREZIDENT"][QUOTE="Tnasty11"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

[QUOTE="six_shot"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]Why doe sit matter how many gigs it is when the game will not be longer than 15 hrs at most. Blu-ray is a gimmick. It is only good for Japanese developers and their CG movies. Not saying it is a bad thing, but I am convinced blu-ray is not needed for gaming, but it is nice to have.too_much_eslim


Thats why Gears was 8 hours.

And Heavenly Sword was 7 hours because....?

most action games are short likeDMC and GOW

But they are DVD's. Unlike PS3 exclusives, which are on Blu-ray yet 7 hrs long. Explanation please?

It is because those games have 22 gigs of sweet uncompressed sound.

Wow what a Waste............................
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[QUOTE="THE_PREZIDENT"][QUOTE="Tnasty11"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

[QUOTE="six_shot"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]Why doe sit matter how many gigs it is when the game will not be longer than 15 hrs at most. Blu-ray is a gimmick. It is only good for Japanese developers and their CG movies. Not saying it is a bad thing, but I am convinced blu-ray is not needed for gaming, but it is nice to have.Tnasty11


Thats why Gears was 8 hours.

And Heavenly Sword was 7 hours because....?

most action games are short likeDMC and GOW

But they are DVD's. Unlike PS3 exclusives, which are on Blu-ray yet 7 hrs long. Explanation please?

developers didn't use that space on the game length instead they on other stuff

None of which was evidently all that important in the long run.

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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="Tnasty11"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]Why doe sit matter how many gigs it is when the game will not be longer than 15 hrs at most. Blu-ray is a gimmick. It is only good for Japanese developers and their CG movies. Not saying it is a bad thing, but I am convinced blu-ray is not needed for gaming, but it is nice to have.Tnasty11

so you are saying having extra space to create a game is a gimmick?

No, telling me how much space it takes up just to try to prove Sony's point that blu-ray is needed is a gimmick.

so saying how space was needed to make a game is a gimmick?

i am not saying you are wrong but is this what you are saying

Come on man you know just as much as I do Sony is just trying to promote Blu-ray and to make sure it is a bullet point it has over the 360. Is blu-ray great to have yes. There is nothing wrong with having all that space. Is it needed? Many games have provedit doesn't. Also it doesn't help that most of these games on Blu-ray is still short and have less content than some games on the 360.Blu-ray shows its worth with JRPG, but that about it.

Also I hear rumors about MS new compression techniques. If this turns out to be true than MS have nothing to worry about.

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[QUOTE="six_shot"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]Why doe sit matter how many gigs it is when the game will not be longer than 15 hrs at most. Blu-ray is a gimmick. It is only good for Japanese developers and their CG movies. Not saying it is a bad thing, but I am convinced blu-ray is not needed for gaming, but it is nice to have.HungryLikeAMug


Thats why Gears was 8 hours.

it also had this weird little thing...i know cows dont really know what it is....mulitplayer....

but the multi-player doesn't make the single player longer and it also does not the game longerthan it really is
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[QUOTE="HungryLikeAMug"]

[QUOTE="six_shot"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]Why doe sit matter how many gigs it is when the game will not be longer than 15 hrs at most. Blu-ray is a gimmick. It is only good for Japanese developers and their CG movies. Not saying it is a bad thing, but I am convinced blu-ray is not needed for gaming, but it is nice to have.Tnasty11


Thats why Gears was 8 hours.

it also had this weird little thing...i know cows dont really know what it is....mulitplayer....

but the multi-player doesn't make the single player longer and it also does not the game longerthan it really is

a single player game with mutliplayer makes the game a longer experience