Uncharted vs Gears of war 2 (Graphics)

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#151 Norule04
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[QUOTE="tonitorsi"]Then where would be the fun in that, if Gears 2 is an automatic win? :?Pariah-
Hardly. Uncharted beats Gears 2

Lol no it doesn't unless ofcourse if you haven't played both games.

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#152 Syferonik
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Sry TC but i played both and GEoW2 looks 3x better....Uncharted has so much jaggies its hard to even compare the two since GEARS2 is probable the game with less jaggies on 360 if not on any consoles this gen

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#153 Pariah-
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Lol no it doesn't unless ofcourse if you haven't played both games.Norule04

I have. Uncharted beats it by a mile. Gears 2 suffers the same problems as Gears 1. The closer you get to the draw image, the more the consistency of the polygons breaks down. In the end, all the game does to cover up its deficiencies is hide behind the oppressive figure of the highly polished armor (at least Killzone 2 was smart enough to use the more realistic implementation of motion-blur). It's exactly what they did with RE5. As far as Uncharted screen shots go, Adoring Fan already shot yours down. Uncharted 2 is simply incapable of maintaining those kind of textures.

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#154 Tessellation
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Owned and Played both,Gears of War 2 looks better and has a lot more going on.
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#155 KHAndAnime
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Gears of War 2 looks ok in motion, but it's funny to see how lemmings won't accept how dated the game really looks if you pay attention to detail. The game is mostly just low-resolution textures and lots of bumpmapping. With all the action going on, most people don't notice.
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#157 Norule04
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[QUOTE="Norule04"]Lol no it doesn't unless ofcourse if you haven't played both games.Pariah-

I have. Uncharted beats it by a mile. Gears 2 suffers the same problems as Gears 1. The closer you get to the draw image, the more the consistency of the polygons breaks down. In the end, all the game does to cover up its deficiencies is hide behind the oppressive figure of the highly polished armor (at least Killzone 2 was smart enough to use the more realistic implementation of motion-blur). It's exactly what they did with RE5. As far as Uncharted screen shots go, Adoring Fan already shot yours down. Uncharted 2 is simply incapable of maintaining those kind of textures.

At least I posted a decent comparison.

Uncharted has horrible aliasing problems, enemy models are horrific and dull, pixelated shadows, bad looking grass, bad use of motion blur compared to gears of war 2 which is a lot more subtle, bad draw distance compare it to the cave levels of gears 2, it has bad framerate hiccups (gears 2 is silky smooth compared to it). Gears 2 has simply a lot more happening on screen. There is no way uncharted looks better than gears 2.

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#158 opex07
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I thought it was already proving that the person who made this blog using those pics months ago had gone out of his way to capture images of Gears when the textures where still loading in.

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#160 Pariah-
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[QUOTE="Norule04"]At least I posted a decent comparison. Uncharted has horrible aliasing problems, enemy models are horrific and dull, pixelated shadows, bad looking grass, bad use of motion blur compared to gears of war 2 which is a lot more subtle, bad draw distance compare it to the cave levels of gears 2, it has bad framerate hiccups (gears 2 is silky smooth compared to it). Gears 2 has simply a lot more happening on screen. There is no way uncharted looks better than gears 2.

The only real problem Uncharted has is texture pop-ins. Aside from that, the only criticism you've made that's worth mention is some blocky shadows. Everything else you've mentioned is garbage--especially with regards to the idea that Gears' draw distance is superior to Uncharted's--which is so unbelievably wrong.
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#161 opex07
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That Gears of War trailer pics - unfair comparison.

SGTiD1NG0

I think its obvious to see that he was joking with those pics, because of the poor pics the TC used.

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#162 Macutchi
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gears2 is the best looking game ive seen on the 360 but the low resolution does it no favours in places and theres a fair bit of slow down. pity theres no pc version id love to see it on a system that could fully do it justice

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#163 Pariah-
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I think its obvious to see that he was joking with those pics, because of the poor pics the TC used.

opex07

Not obvious at all. The TC used two closeup pics. Both of which were low quality, and yet the difference in quality was still discernible. That's pretty fair compared to trailer shots v. in-game shots.

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#164 Norule04
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[QUOTE="Norule04"]At least I posted a decent comparison. Uncharted has horrible aliasing problems, enemy models are horrific and dull, pixelated shadows, bad looking grass, bad use of motion blur compared to gears of war 2 which is a lot more subtle, bad draw distance compare it to the cave levels of gears 2, it has bad framerate hiccups (gears 2 is silky smooth compared to it). Gears 2 has simply a lot more happening on screen. There is no way uncharted looks better than gears 2.Pariah-
The only real problem Uncharted has is texture pop-ins. Aside from that, the only criticism you've made that's worth mention is some blocky shadows. Everything else you've mentioned is garbage--especially with regards to the idea that Gears' draw distance is superior to Uncharted's--which is so unbelievably wrong.

Prove me wrong, just look at the pics I've posted.

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#165 opex07
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Not obvious at all. The TC used two closeup pics. Both of which were low quality, and yet the difference in quality was still discernible.

Pariah-

Those pics were taken by a blog poster in order to give Uncharted an edge, months ago, and have already been discussed. The person who took those picks had taken them when the textures were still being loaded in order to make gears2 look worse.

If you had read through the thread you would have seen the person who put up those pics say he was joking.

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#166 Pariah-
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[QUOTE="Pariah-"]

Not obvious at all. The TC used two closeup pics. Both of which were low quality, and yet the difference in quality was still discernible.

opex07

Those pics were taken by a blog poster in order to give Uncharted an edge, months ago, and have already been discussed. The person who took those picks had taken them when the textures were still being loaded in order to make gears2 look worse.

If you had read through the thread you would have seen the person who put up those pics say he was joking.

GabeNewell's Pie is notorious for posting misleading stuff unapologetically, so finding a comment like that doesn't help his case in my eyes.

I'm already familiar with where the pics came from. The blogger didn't give either one an edge--of course that didn't keep the 360 crowd from crying foul about anything that speaks poorly of Gears. Uncharted was treated the same way.

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#167 gamecubepad
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Not this again. It's well established that Gears 2 took the console gfx king title from MGS4, and only months later was surpassed by Killzone 2. Whether KZ2 will be replaced by Uncharted 2 is a whole different discussion.

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#168 shabab12
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[QUOTE="Pariah-"][QUOTE="tonitorsi"]Then where would be the fun in that, if Gears 2 is an automatic win? :?Norule04

Hardly. Uncharted beats Gears 2

Lol no it doesn't unless ofcourse if you haven't played both games.

i have, and it does...
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#169 Tessellation
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[QUOTE="Norule04"]

[QUOTE="Pariah-"] Hardly. Uncharted beats Gears 2shabab12

Lol no it doesn't unless ofcourse if you haven't played both games.

i have, and it does...

i have too and i still think gears 2 looks better.
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#170 zom-b-1
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I love Gears of war 2, but i say Uncharted looks better

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#171 gamecubepad
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Some Gears 2 screens...

and a cutscene...

Gears 2 was also praised for awesome fire effects, huge amounts of enemies on screen, and giant bosses. Uncharted wasn't even acknowledged as being superior to MGS4, which was replaced by Gears 2 as console gfx king.

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#172 chaplainDMK
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Your comparing a 2007 game to a 2008 game. Witch got beat by 2009 game.
Do i see a pattern emerging?

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#174 gamecubepad
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[QUOTE="gamecubepad"]

Some Gears 2 screens...

Gears 2 was also praised for awesome fire effects, huge amounts of enemies on screen, and giant bosses. Uncharted wasn't even acknowledged as being superior to MGS4, which was replaced by Gears 2 as console gfx king.

Rza_rectah

But UC 2 looks undoubtablly better then Gears 2. After playing UC 2 its hard to go back to the gears format.

Agreed. That's the nature of comparing games that don't come out at the same time.

Let's face it, Killzone 2 beats Gears 2 and Uncharted 2 looks to up the ante. We'll be looking forward to Reach and Gears 3 to see if U2 or KZ2 can be matched or surpassed. Right now, the PS3 has the most visually impressive console titles.

I forgot to mention Crysis 2 and Rage. From what I've seen of Crysis 2 it beats out any console game currently on the market. We could very well be seeing multiplats dominating the console gfx king title. Makes sense to me.

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#175 Pariah-
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Gears 2 was also praised for awesome fire effects, huge amounts of enemies on screen, and giant bosses. Uncharted wasn't even acknowledged as being superior to MGS4, which was replaced by Gears 2 as console gfx king.

gamecubepad

Hard to say what your pics are trying to prove. All I see are poor textures that are carefully complemented by artistic details and a backdrop--yes, the cave is a backdrop, not an actual environment. So please stop trying to attribute that to draw distance.

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#176 Rza_rectah
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Neither of them are fun or attractive.cheese_it
Sorry mister i play crysis or what ever other pc game you play. These are the most attractive games on console take that talk to a PC forum or something.
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#177 Rza_rectah
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[QUOTE="gamecubepad"]

[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"][QUOTE="gamecubepad"]

Some Gears 2 screens...

Gears 2 was also praised for awesome fire effects, huge amounts of enemies on screen, and giant bosses. Uncharted wasn't even acknowledged as being superior to MGS4, which was replaced by Gears 2 as console gfx king.

But UC 2 looks undoubtablly better then Gears 2. After playing UC 2 its hard to go back to the gears format.

Agreed. That's the nature of comparing games that don't come out at the same time.

Let's face it, Killzone 2 beats Gears 2 and Uncharted 2 looks to up the ante. We'll be looking forward to Reach and Gears 3 to see if U2 or KZ2 can be matched or surpassed. Right now, the PS3 has the most visually impressive console titles.

Yeah its an interesting gen but if Naughty dog was right then UC 2 is as good as it gets. Im sure Reach and Gears3 will max out the 360 aswell.
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#179 opex07
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GabeNewell's Pie is notorious for posting misleading stuff unapologetically, so finding a comment like that doesn't help his case in my eyes.

I'm already familiar with where the pics came from. The blogger didn't give either one an edge--of course that didn't keep the 360 crowd from crying foul about anything that speaks poorly of Gears. Uncharted was treated the same way.

Pariah-

If you have played Gears 2 then you would realize that most of his shots were taking in the beginning of every level in order to try and capture the times in which the textures may be loading.

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#181 Rza_rectah
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[QUOTE="opex07"]

[QUOTE="Pariah-"]

GabeNewell's Pie is notorious for posting misleading stuff unapologetically, so finding a comment like that doesn't help his case in my eyes.

I'm already familiar with where the pics came from. The blogger didn't give either one an edge--of course that didn't keep the 360 crowd from crying foul about anything that speaks poorly of Gears. Uncharted was treated the same way.

If you have played Gears 2 then you would realize that most of his shots were taking in the beginning of every level in order to try and capture the times in which the textures may be loading.

nah when the textures are loading all you see are bland figures for about 3 seconds.
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#182 gamecubepad
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[QUOTE="gamecubepad"]Gears 2 was also praised for awesome fire effects, huge amounts of enemies on screen, and giant bosses. Uncharted wasn't even acknowledged as being superior to MGS4, which was replaced by Gears 2 as console gfx king.

Pariah-

Hard to say what your pics are trying to prove. All I see are poor textures that are carefully complemented by artistic details and a backdrop--yes, the cave is a backdrop, not an actual environment. So please stop trying to attribute that to draw distance.

When did I mention draw distance? Stop tripping. This is old news. If you want a petty argument, go elsewhere. I haven't paid attention to your previous posts and have no intention of rehashing a year-old argument.

MGS4 was console gfx king. Then Gears 2. Now it's KZ2. This is widely accepted as truth.

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#183 2mrw
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we are at almost 200 posts, list one useful thing that you got from those 200 posts?????

i know, there is no point in Game VS Game threads.

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#184 onuruca
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uncharted 2 looks awesome but geow wins over uc1
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#185 Rza_rectah
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[QUOTE="gamecubepad"]

[QUOTE="Pariah-"]

[QUOTE="gamecubepad"]Gears 2 was also praised for awesome fire effects, huge amounts of enemies on screen, and giant bosses. Uncharted wasn't even acknowledged as being superior to MGS4, which was replaced by Gears 2 as console gfx king.

Hard to say what your pics are trying to prove. All I see are poor textures that are carefully complemented by artistic details and a backdrop--yes, the cave is a backdrop, not an actual environment. So please stop trying to attribute that to draw distance.

When did I mention draw distance? Stop tripping. This is old news. If you want a petty argument, go elsewhere. I haven't paid attention to your previous posts and have no intention of rehashing a year-old argument.

MGS4 was console gfx king. Then Gears 2. Now it's KZ2. This is widely accepted as truth.

Its much further in UC the Gears 2 one the buildings look blurry.
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#186 opex07
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[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"] nah when the textures are loading all you see are bland figures for about 3 seconds.

The textures don't just appear they slowly dissolve into the scene when being loaded
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#187 gamecubepad
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Yeah its an interesting gen but if Naughty dog was right then UC 2 is as good as it gets. Im sure Reach and Gears3 will max out the 360 aswell.Rza_rectah

Word. Crysis 2 seems a sure bet to equal or surpass any other console title. That would be a fitting end imo.

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#188 megapikachu101
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we are at almost 200 posts, list one useful thing that you got from those 200 posts?????

i know, there is no point in Game VS Game threads.

2mrw
i got lulz :P
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#189 Rza_rectah
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[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"] nah when the textures are loading all you see are bland figures for about 3 seconds.opex07
The textures don't just appear they slowly dissolve into the scene when being loaded

nah its bland first then they appear to pop up in the screen. I dont know about dissolving though.
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#190 dylanmcc
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[QUOTE="GabeNewellsPie"]

Sorry its not even a contest.

Panther501

ah yes the good old in-game screens vs CGI / Photoshops. Very nice comparison. Maybe next time you should do an actual comparison between both games in game... oh wait, you're too scared that uncharted looks better than Gears which is why you posted bullshots. Good job at failing.


Yet you didn't complain about the OP's picture choice? That's strange.

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#191 AnnoyedDragon
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Console graphical comparison threads are always fun, the reason being in the majority of cases consoles cannot take screenshots. So it is essentially people on both sides throwing bullshots at each other, neither of which are representative of the actual experience. Even if the game can take a screenshot; I've heard of console games pre-rendering frames prior to saving to hide the jaggies.

Makes me wish I had a card capable of capturing raw 720p screenshots from a hooked up console, but I don't have £150 burning a hole in my pocket.

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#192 opex07
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[QUOTE="opex07"][QUOTE="Rza_rectah"] nah when the textures are loading all you see are bland figures for about 3 seconds.Rza_rectah
The textures don't just appear they slowly dissolve into the scene when being loaded

nah its bland first then they appear to pop up in the screen. I dont know about dissolving though.

go start any online match in gears 2 and you will clearly see the effect that I'm talking about as it loads the map and player list.
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#193 Rza_rectah
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[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"][QUOTE="opex07"] The textures don't just appear they slowly dissolve into the scene when being loadedopex07
nah its bland first then they appear to pop up in the screen. I dont know about dissolving though.

go start any online match in gears 2 and you will clearly see the effect that I'm talking about as it loads the map and player list.

I cant I dont have any A/V cables for my 360 :(.
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#194 awssk8er716
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Ummmm... Wow. I thought Gears of War had a lot better graphics than that.

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#195 opex07
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I cant I dont have any A/V cables for my 360 :(. Rza_rectah

oh that sucks. Try sticking your hands in both ends, and maybe you will get a signal:P

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#197 mitu123
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Ummmm... Wow. I thought Gears of War had a lot better graphics than that.

awssk8er716
It does, the TC used a screen when Gears haven't loaded all the textures, it takes several seconds to load and Dom looks better than that.
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#198 Communistsheep
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[QUOTE="awssk8er716"]

Ummmm... Wow. I thought Gears of War had a lot better graphics than that.

mitu123
It does, the TC used a screen when Gears haven't loaded all the textures, it takes several seconds to load and Dom looks better than that.

A you like dom in that way. eeeeeeeh. :P
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#200 mitu123
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[QUOTE="RushKing"]

Uncharted (2007):

Gears of war 2 2008:

Its a shame Lemmings praised this game as graphics king:P

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Youre kidding right? You see people, this is a perfect example of how stupid some people can be when it comes to comparing games graphically. When you look at and judge a game graphically, you arent supposed to stare inches away at a characters face. The only real way to judge a games graphics is by taking a shot of actual gameplay because if you just take a snapshot of one upclose part of the game, you arent even portraying a fraction of said games real beauty. Give me a shot of the scene in Gears 2 when you first enter the caverns and tell me how "bad" that looks..

I agree with this guy.