Uncharted's demo is highly dissapointing....

I was really looking forward to this game. I wanted a Tomb Raider like adventure, and the graphics looked incredible. I remember reading the Game Informer cover story and thinking how great the game looked. When I heard there would be a demo of the game I was estatic, I was really looking forward to the game because not only did it show off the ps3's great graphic power, but I thought it could be a truely unique game.

Guess not.

First off, what is up with this not so over the shoulder, more or less looking at your shoulder view? It's not natural, it feels wonky, it just doesn't seem right. Not to mention that the aiming is jerky, and not all that precise. Played COD4 recently? Why can't it aim like that, you know, crisp.

The six axis elements are poorly implemented and frustrate more than they add to the game play. The camera is problematic at times, which while it may give you a great view of some terrific plants and trees, it doesnt help when you are tring to figure out where to go.

Enemy AI is stupid, I watched as enemies shot into walls while I casually shot at them, killing them with ease. At the point after you jump off the cliff, with ancient ruins around, I ran into the middle of the map, in between the 3-4 enemies "patrolling," stod there un-noticed for 5 seconds, before the enemies decided to clumsily run for cover and shoot into the walls, not at me.

The melee attacks were cool but felt useless because you never really needed to close the gap and punch your enemies. Explosions from barrels look god awful, instead of a realistic explosion, you get a big orange puff that is supposed to be an explosion.

The good though is the game looks simply amazing. The graphics are crisp, and even when you swim in the water, your shirt becomes noticable damp. Very impressive. Too bad the gameplay isnt.

Barely AA.

Stopped reading when you compared a Action/Adventure to a FPS.ImaPirate0202

Why because it was a better game? Stop living in denial.

Stopped reading when you compared an Action/Adventure to a FPS.ImaPirate0202

You do aim guns in this game right? whats the difference, oh wait there isn't please try to have a valid point next time.

[QUOTE="ImaPirate0202"]Stopped reading when you compared a Action/Adventure to a FPS.rocktimusprime

Why because it was a better game? Stop living in denial.

No, because they are different genres. Don't compare them.

[QUOTE="rocktimusprime"]

[QUOTE="ImaPirate0202"]Stopped reading when you compared a Action/Adventure to a FPS.ImaPirate0202

Why because it was a better game? Stop living in denial.

[/QUOTE

No, because they are different genres. Don't compare them.

but you aim guns in both, so whats the difference. maybe i should compare it to GeOW then, why cant it be like GeOW. GeOW's aiming was terrific. uncharteds is terrible.

You cant just say "no your wrong!" because you dont agree, you have to have a point

The A.I. really impressed me. The demo was enjoyable overall. Don't forget, that demo is over 5 months old. Hence the name "demo".dream431ca

great, so they show me a 5 month old product that is terrible and expect me to pay 60 bucks for it?

k, good for you.

You're not changing any opinions though.

[QUOTE="ImaPirate0202"][QUOTE="rocktimusprime"]

[QUOTE="ImaPirate0202"]Stopped reading when you compared a Action/Adventure to a FPS.rocktimusprime

Why because it was a better game? Stop living in denial.

[/QUOTE

No, because they are different genres. Don't compare them.

but you aim guns in both, so whats the difference. maybe i should compare it to GeOW then, why cant it be like GeOW. GeOW's aiming was terrific. uncharteds is terrible.

You cant just say "no your wrong!" because you dont agree, you have to have a point

Now I would say you're wrong because you're looking for excuses. I don't mind if you didn't like the demo, but if you're gonna bash at, atleast have a valid argument.

I was really looking forward to this game. I wanted a Tomb Raider like adventure, and the graphics looked incredible. I remember reading the Game Informer cover story and thinking how great the game looked. When I heard there would be a demo of the game I was estatic, I was really looking forward to the game because not only did it show off the ps3's great graphic power, but I thought it could be a truely unique game.

Guess not.

First off, what is up with this not so over the shoulder, more or less looking at your shoulder view? It's not natural, it feels wonky, it just doesn't seem right. Not to mention that the aiming is jerky, and not all that precise. Played COD4 recently? Why can't it aim like that, you know, crisp.

The six axis elements are poorly implemented and frustrate more than they add to the game play. The camera is problematic at times, which while it may give you a great view of some terrific plants and trees, it doesnt help when you are tring to figure out where to go.

Enemy AI is stupid, I watched as enemies shot into walls while I casually shot at them, killing them with ease. At the point after you jump off the cliff, with ancient ruins around, I ran into the middle of the map, in between the 3-4 enemies "patrolling," stod there un-noticed for 5 seconds, before the enemies decided to clumsily run for cover and shoot into the walls, not at me.

The melee attacks were cool but felt useless because you never really needed to close the gap and punch your enemies. Explosions from barrels look god awful, instead of a realistic explosion, you get a big orange puff that is supposed to be an explosion.

The good though is the game looks simply amazing. The graphics are crisp, and even when you swim in the water, your shirt becomes noticable damp. Very impressive. Too bad the gameplay isnt.

Barely AA.

rocktimusprime

[QUOTE="rocktimusprime"][QUOTE="ImaPirate0202"][QUOTE="rocktimusprime"]

[QUOTE="ImaPirate0202"]Stopped reading when you compared a Action/Adventure to a FPS.ImaPirate0202

Why because it was a better game? Stop living in denial.

[/QUOTE

No, because they are different genres. Don't compare them.

but you aim guns in both, so whats the difference. maybe i should compare it to GeOW then, why cant it be like GeOW. GeOW's aiming was terrific. uncharteds is terrible.

You cant just say "no your wrong!" because you dont agree, you have to have a point

Now I would say you're wrong because your looking for excuses. I don't mind if you didn't like the demo, but if you're gonna bash at, atleast have a valid argument.

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]The A.I. really impressed me. The demo was enjoyable overall. Don't forget, that demo is over 5 months old. Hence the name "demo".rocktimusprime

great, so they show me a 5 month old product that is terrible and expect me to pay 60 bucks for it?

nearly everybody loved the demo, ur the only guy iv seen hate it. maybe its simply a game you don't like, there no need to try and shoot it down because its not in your taste

The A.I. really impressed me. The demo was enjoyable overall. Don't forget, that demo is over 5 months old. Hence the name "demo".dream431ca

5 Months old?...link pls!

k, good for you.

You're not changing any opinions though.

Gun_Haze

got you to post, so you obviously care lol

[QUOTE="Gun_Haze"]

k, good for you.

You're not changing any opinions though.

rocktimusprime

got you to post, so you obviously care lol

[QUOTE="rocktimusprime"]

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]The A.I. really impressed me. The demo was enjoyable overall. Don't forget, that demo is over 5 months old. Hence the name "demo".hip-hop-cola2

great, so they show me a 5 month old product that is terrible and expect me to pay 60 bucks for it?

nearly everybody loved the demo, ur the only guy iv seen hate it. maybe its simply a game you don't like, there no need to try and shoot it down because its not in your taste

Loved Tomb Raider, loved GeOW. Combine the two should be heaven. Its a shame my most anticipated PS3 title is not living up to the standards cows this board said it would be. I seriously implore you not to hype AAA (you wont anyway, so you wont get ownzrored!!!) because this game is just another Graphics are better than Gamplay romp

Play on a setting other than easy. You can't just sit there uncovered shooting at the enemies. If so it won't take long before you are dead. I agree with you on the melee part though, but this is a demo and hardly shows anything of the entire game. Dilrod

played on hard, and they were still dumb as paris hilton. Unless its an in-game event where they directly see you, it can take moments for them to notice you are just chillin in the open. It was rather unsettling, and I saw one to many bad guys shoot into the wall infront of them. Played this demo some 5 times now, each setting and was not impressed on either go around.

[QUOTE="ImaPirate0202"][QUOTE="rocktimusprime"][QUOTE="ImaPirate0202"][QUOTE="rocktimusprime"]

[QUOTE="ImaPirate0202"]Stopped reading when you compared a Action/Adventure to a FPS.rocktimusprime

Why because it was a better game? Stop living in denial.

[/QUOTE

No, because they are different genres. Don't compare them.

but you aim guns in both, so whats the difference. maybe i should compare it to GeOW then, why cant it be like GeOW. GeOW's aiming was terrific. uncharteds is terrible.

You cant just say "no your wrong!" because you dont agree, you have to have a point

Now I would say you're wrong because your looking for excuses. I don't mind if you didn't like the demo, but if you're gonna bash at, atleast have a valid argument.

You do realise that when you aim, your gun is pointing to the dot, not at the enemies, so it looks very ackward. Go play GeOW and youll see how over the shoulder aim should be. The game just isn't that great and you just don't want to accept somebody found glaring flaws.

Fair enough, I'm just not buying the fact that 'awkward aiming' killed your experience.

The A.I. really impressed me. The demo was enjoyable overall. Don't forget, that demo is over 5 months old. Hence the name "demo".dream431ca

Demo gives you a taste of the game. When I play a demo of a game, that's what I expect the final product to reflect. It's why the Marketplace on XBL (w/e is on the PS3 as well) is such a beautiful thing: Any game interests me? I download the demo and try it out.

I believe the comparison was with the way the aiming controls. He feels in COD4 it's a lot more crisp, percise, and smooth. While in Uncharted it feels clumsy to him.

[QUOTE="rocktimusprime"][QUOTE="ImaPirate0202"][QUOTE="rocktimusprime"][QUOTE="ImaPirate0202"][QUOTE="rocktimusprime"]

[QUOTE="ImaPirate0202"]Stopped reading when you compared a Action/Adventure to a FPS.ImaPirate0202

Why because it was a better game? Stop living in denial.

[/QUOTE

No, because they are different genres. Don't compare them.

but you aim guns in both, so whats the difference. maybe i should compare it to GeOW then, why cant it be like GeOW. GeOW's aiming was terrific. uncharteds is terrible.

You cant just say "no your wrong!" because you dont agree, you have to have a point

Now I would say you're wrong because your looking for excuses. I don't mind if you didn't like the demo, but if you're gonna bash at, atleast have a valid argument.

You do realise that when you aim, your gun is pointing to the dot, not at the enemies, so it looks very ackward. Go play GeOW and youll see how over the shoulder aim should be. The game just isn't that great and you just don't want to accept somebody found glaring flaws.

Fair enough, I'm just not buying the fact that 'awkward aiming' killed your experience.

it killed my expierence on Far Cry Instinct for 360 It was terrible. It is very much like Uncharted. It isn't smooth, it isn't crisp, and it just doesnt feel very natural. Like I said, play GeOW or COD4, the aiming is very crisp and your movements are smooth and very precise. I don't feel this way with Uncharted. It just doesnt work very well and the view-point your aiming from is so un-natural.

[QUOTE="Dilrod"]Play on a setting other than easy. You can't just sit there uncovered shooting at the enemies. If so it won't take long before you are dead. I agree with you on the melee part though, but this is a demo and hardly shows anything of the entire game. rocktimusprime

played on hard, and they were still dumb as paris hilton. Unless its an in-game event where they directly see you, it can take moments for them to notice you are just chillin in the open. It was rather unsettling, and I saw one to many bad guys shoot into the wall infront of them. Played this demo some 5 times now, each setting and was not impressed on either go around.

You dislike the demo but played it 5 times? Wow, I wonder what the replay value is for people who love it.

[QUOTE="rocktimusprime"]

[QUOTE="Dilrod"]Play on a setting other than easy. You can't just sit there uncovered shooting at the enemies. If so it won't take long before you are dead. I agree with you on the melee part though, but this is a demo and hardly shows anything of the entire game. Apathetic-Irony

played on hard, and they were still dumb as paris hilton. Unless its an in-game event where they directly see you, it can take moments for them to notice you are just chillin in the open. It was rather unsettling, and I saw one to many bad guys shoot into the wall infront of them. Played this demo some 5 times now, each setting and was not impressed on either go around.

You dislike the demo but played it 5 times? Wow, I wonder what the replay value is for people who love it.

i dont like to make judgement on things I dont know very well. I played the demo the first time on easy and was kinda underwhelmed. I played it with a friend the second time and he felt the same. We moved to Medium on the third and thought the AI was just kinda meh, then went onto Hard and couldnt believe it. I played it one last time because I really was looking forward to this game, i really was. I'm just really dissapointed with how it seems to hard turned out after so much hype.

Stopped reading when you compared an Action/Adventure to a FPS.ImaPirate0202

I didnt bother reading it once I saw who wrote it.

[QUOTE="ImaPirate0202"]Stopped reading when you compared a Action/Adventure to a FPS.rocktimusprime

Why because it was a better game? Stop living in denial.

I don't know, the shooting in FF8 feels a lot smoother than CoD4.

You see why it's stupid to compare to different genres?

Did we play the same demo? I had almost the complete opposite experience in almost everything you touched on in the OP.

Especially complaining about the siaxis... Wtf are you talking about? If you were having trouble balacing on that log with the sixaxis... Just stop gaming. :?

[QUOTE="rocktimusprime"]

[QUOTE="ImaPirate0202"]Stopped reading when you compared a Action/Adventure to a FPS.Chutebox

Why because it was a better game? Stop living in denial.

I don't know, the shooting in FF8 feels a lot smoother than CoD4.

You see why it's stupid to compare to different genres?

so a game that is centered around shooting should not be compared to a game centered around shooting? Go play COD4 and youll see how crips its aiming controls are. Play uncharted and youll see how clumsy it feels and see how it could be frustrating.

Did we play the same demo? I had almost the complete opposite experience in almost everything you touched on in the OP.

Especially complaining about the siaxis... Wtf are you talking about? If you were having trouble balacing on that log with the sixaxis... Just stop gaming. :?

Not-A-Stalker

i thought the six-axis was supposed to add fun, instead it was just lame, and the whole grenade system was meh. but your right, i guess lair should show me i should stop gaming because i couldnt handle the greatness of the six axis there either.

Enemy AI is stupid, I watched as enemies shot into walls while I casually shot at them, killing them with ease. At the point after you jump off the cliff, with ancient ruins around, I ran into the middle of the map, in between the 3-4 enemies "patrolling," stod there un-noticed for 5 seconds, before the enemies decided to clumsily run for cover and shoot into the walls, not at me.rocktimusprime

That part sounds a bit suspicious i didnt encounter that problem.

[QUOTE="ImaPirate0202"]Stopped reading when you compared an Action/Adventure to a FPS.xTHExJUICEx

I didnt bother reading it once I saw who wrote it.

wah wah somebody has a different opinion of a game i like! wah wah!

[QUOTE="Dilrod"]Play on a setting other than easy. You can't just sit there uncovered shooting at the enemies. If so it won't take long before you are dead. I agree with you on the melee part though, but this is a demo and hardly shows anything of the entire game. rocktimusprime

played on hard, and they were still dumb as paris hilton. Unless its an in-game event where they directly see you, it can take moments for them to notice you are just chillin in the open. It was rather unsettling, and I saw one to many bad guys shoot into the wall infront of them. Played this demo some 5 times now, each setting and was not impressed on either go around.

I disagree. In fact on hard mode I came over the hill where you are to jump and drop down by pressing O and I was seen way up on the hillside.

[QUOTE="rocktimusprime"]

[QUOTE="Dilrod"]Play on a setting other than easy. You can't just sit there uncovered shooting at the enemies. If so it won't take long before you are dead. I agree with you on the melee part though, but this is a demo and hardly shows anything of the entire game. Dilrod

played on hard, and they were still dumb as paris hilton. Unless its an in-game event where they directly see you, it can take moments for them to notice you are just chillin in the open. It was rather unsettling, and I saw one to many bad guys shoot into the wall infront of them. Played this demo some 5 times now, each setting and was not impressed on either go around.

I disagree. In fact on hard mode I came over the hill where you are to jump and drop down by pressing O and I was seen way up on the hillside.

see i never was until i fully walked into the open and stood there for a few seconds. it happened every time but maybe there was a timing issue i.e. ai wasing looking at me or something....

k, good for you.

You're not changing any opinions though.

Gun_Haze

he's not trying to. he's merely stating his own. you owned yourself there.

I was really looking forward to this game. I wanted a Tomb Raider like adventure, and the graphics looked incredible. I remember reading the Game Informer cover story and thinking how great the game looked. When I heard there would be a demo of the game I was estatic, I was really looking forward to the game because not only did it show off the ps3's great graphic power, but I thought it could be a truely unique game.

Guess not.

First off, what is up with this not so over the shoulder, more or less looking at your shoulder view? It's not natural, it feels wonky, it just doesn't seem right. Not to mention that the aiming is jerky, and not all that precise. Played COD4 recently? Why can't it aim like that, you know, crisp.

The six axis elements are poorly implemented and frustrate more than they add to the game play. The camera is problematic at times, which while it may give you a great view of some terrific plants and trees, it doesnt help when you are tring to figure out where to go.

Enemy AI is stupid, I watched as enemies shot into walls while I casually shot at them, killing them with ease. At the point after you jump off the cliff, with ancient ruins around, I ran into the middle of the map, in between the 3-4 enemies "patrolling," stod there un-noticed for 5 seconds, before the enemies decided to clumsily run for cover and shoot into the walls, not at me.

The melee attacks were cool but felt useless because you never really needed to close the gap and punch your enemies. Explosions from barrels look god awful, instead of a realistic explosion, you get a big orange puff that is supposed to be an explosion.

The good though is the game looks simply amazing. The graphics are crisp, and even when you swim in the water, your shirt becomes noticable damp. Very impressive. Too bad the gameplay isnt.

Barely AA.

rocktimusprime

How can it be dissapointing when that's not even a word?

I had no problem with the aiming, only reason I had difficulties hitting people is because they're so damn unpredictable and mobile. The only problem I have with the AI is that they automatically know where you are, even when they shouldn't. As soon as they've spotted you you're on their radar. Makes it kinda difficult to sneak up on people.

Balancing the sixaxis seems kinda pointless, but eh, who cares. The grenades work quite well after you've gotten the hang of it. But I guess the question is; why should you have to? Wouldn't the analog stick do just as well? Seems to be different just for the sake of being different.

Melee attacks >>>>>>> chainsaw. That is all.

Definitely AA, at least.

[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="rocktimusprime"]

[QUOTE="ImaPirate0202"]Stopped reading when you compared a Action/Adventure to a FPS.rocktimusprime

Why because it was a better game? Stop living in denial.

I don't know, the shooting in FF8 feels a lot smoother than CoD4.

You see why it's stupid to compare to different genres?

so a game that is centered around shooting should not be compared to a game centered around shooting? Go play COD4 and youll see how crips its aiming controls are. Play uncharted and youll see how clumsy it feels and see how it could be frustrating.

hey armored core 4 is also centered around shooting, i guess i could compare uncharted to that too

compare it to GeOW or Resident Evil, it's not a FPS never will be, TPS and FPS are two different sub-genres of the "shooter game"

[QUOTE="hip-hop-cola2"][QUOTE="rocktimusprime"]

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]The A.I. really impressed me. The demo was enjoyable overall. Don't forget, that demo is over 5 months old. Hence the name "demo".rocktimusprime

great, so they show me a 5 month old product that is terrible and expect me to pay 60 bucks for it?

nearly everybody loved the demo, ur the only guy iv seen hate it. maybe its simply a game you don't like, there no need to try and shoot it down because its not in your taste

Loved Tomb Raider, loved GeOW. Combine the two should be heaven. Its a shame my most anticipated PS3 title is not living up to the standards cows this board said it would be. I seriously implore you not to hype AAA (you wont anyway, so you wont get ownzrored!!!) because this game is just another Graphics are better than Gamplay romp

nothing much i can say. just a lot of people say it great.

your sounding very lemming btw lol

[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="rocktimusprime"]

[QUOTE="ImaPirate0202"]Stopped reading when you compared a Action/Adventure to a FPS.rocktimusprime

Why because it was a better game? Stop living in denial.

I don't know, the shooting in FF8 feels a lot smoother than CoD4.

You see why it's stupid to compare to different genres?

so a game that is centered around shooting should not be compared to a game centered around shooting? Go play COD4 and youll see how crips its aiming controls are. Play uncharted and youll see how clumsy it feels and see how it could be frustrating.

COD4 is FPS, so the shooting better be at its best because it's what you're doing most of the time. Uncharted is a different genre therefore that doesn't apply. There are plenty of other things that come into play other than just shooting. While I understand you didn't like the aiming, I completely disagree and thought it was great. And I don't really get your complaint with the A.I. They threw grenades very accurately, they flanked you, and did a great job at avoiding gunfire. I just don'tget your complaints, I had the completely opposite feelings while playing the demo.

it killed my expierence on Far Cry Instinct for 360 It was terrible. It is very much like Uncharted. It isn't smooth, it isn't crisp, and it just doesnt feel very natural. Like I said, play GeOW or COD4, the aiming is very crisp and your movements are smooth and very precise. I don't feel this way with Uncharted. It just doesnt work very well and the view-point your aiming from is so un-natural.rocktimusprime

"COD4 IS A FPS AND UNCHARTED IS NOT WAH!"

Wow, what a horrible attempt at discrediting his post. He was comparing the aiming -- not the style of it or any of that, but how natural it feels. Whether it's over the shoulder or first person, moving the recticle over the target has the same function in every game involving a gun, bow and arrow, magic missile, etc.

i suspect only 3 of you read the whole post, because very few of you have reasoned a single point I brought up or have offered a different view on it, other than typical whining about someone not liking a hyped game.

kudos to those who read it and brought up points like the six axis, perhaps we could have a real discussion of the game while other just whine that it didnt get a good write up from of all people a SW reader...

[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="rocktimusprime"]

[QUOTE="ImaPirate0202"]Stopped reading when you compared a Action/Adventure to a FPS.rocktimusprime

Why because it was a better game? Stop living in denial.

I don't know, the shooting in FF8 feels a lot smoother than CoD4.

You see why it's stupid to compare to different genres?

so a game that is centered around shooting should not be compared to a game centered around shooting? Go play COD4 and youll see how crips its aiming controls are. Play uncharted and youll see how clumsy it feels and see how it could be frustrating.

Uncharted is centered around shooting? I mean, sure there is plenty shooting in it, but there is a lot more to it than shooting. That's why it's an adventure genre. Also, the dude isn't a Marine.

Edit: Don't get me wrong though, you are welcome to your opinion. Just don't pass it off like it's a fact and we should all live by it.

[QUOTE="rocktimusprime"][QUOTE="hip-hop-cola2"][QUOTE="rocktimusprime"]

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]The A.I. really impressed me. The demo was enjoyable overall. Don't forget, that demo is over 5 months old. Hence the name "demo".hip-hop-cola2

great, so they show me a 5 month old product that is terrible and expect me to pay 60 bucks for it?

nearly everybody loved the demo, ur the only guy iv seen hate it. maybe its simply a game you don't like, there no need to try and shoot it down because its not in your taste

Loved Tomb Raider, loved GeOW. Combine the two should be heaven. Its a shame my most anticipated PS3 title is not living up to the standards cows this board said it would be. I seriously implore you not to hype AAA (you wont anyway, so you wont get ownzrored!!!) because this game is just another Graphics are better than Gamplay romp

nothing much i can say. just a lot of people say it great.

your sounding very lemming btw lol

Its rocktimusprime, he is a lemming.

[QUOTE="rocktimusprime"]

tomjoetan

it killed my expierence on Far Cry Instinct for 360 It was terrible. It is very much like Uncharted. It isn't smooth, it isn't crisp, and it just doesnt feel very natural. Like I said, play GeOW or COD4, the aiming is very crisp and your movements are smooth and very precise. I don't feel this way with Uncharted. It just doesnt work very well and the view-point your aiming from is so un-natural.

Go play gears of war, or every recently call of duty 4. The guns move in the fashion you want, you can pull of some really slick shots, when you see a head and want your gun there, it almost just moves there natrually.

In Uncharted the gun's dont move with the same crispness. You will have to re-adjust and re-adjust to get the shot you really wanted. Its not really anything about "skill," at all. A skilled FPS or Shooter fan will want to look at a target and just naturally move the reticle onto his head. In Uncharted I just dont get the same feeling, it might partially be JUST becase the "off the shoulder, to the side," view is very very ackward.

Part of it may have to do with the PS3 analog, which I never found that great, even in Resistance, which I thought was a great game.

The aiming just isn't crisp. Bad aiming can ruin a game, it ruined Farcry Instincts on the 360, it was plagued with the same exact problem.

[QUOTE="hip-hop-cola2"][QUOTE="rocktimusprime"][QUOTE="hip-hop-cola2"][QUOTE="rocktimusprime"]

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]The A.I. really impressed me. The demo was enjoyable overall. Don't forget, that demo is over 5 months old. Hence the name "demo".xTHExJUICEx

great, so they show me a 5 month old product that is terrible and expect me to pay 60 bucks for it?

nearly everybody loved the demo, ur the only guy iv seen hate it. maybe its simply a game you don't like, there no need to try and shoot it down because its not in your taste

Loved Tomb Raider, loved GeOW. Combine the two should be heaven. Its a shame my most anticipated PS3 title is not living up to the standards cows this board said it would be. I seriously implore you not to hype AAA (you wont anyway, so you wont get ownzrored!!!) because this game is just another Graphics are better than Gamplay romp

nothing much i can say. just a lot of people say it great.

your sounding very lemming btw lol

Its rocktimusprime, he is a lemming.

that owns a ps3 but god forbid he be allowed to have opinions on the games, especially one of his favorites from this year like Motorstorm.

but of course then again your opinion is null because your a cow and we are talking about a ps3 game here so you wouldn't dare say it sucks.....

oh btw join the SW clan for warhawk.

[QUOTE="Not-A-Stalker"]

Did we play the same demo? I had almost the complete opposite experience in almost everything you touched on in the OP.

Especially complaining about the siaxis... Wtf are you talking about? If you were having trouble balacing on that log with the sixaxis... Just stop gaming. :?

rocktimusprime

i thought the six-axis was supposed to add fun, instead it was just lame, and the whole grenade system was meh. but your right, i guess lair should show me i should stop gaming because i couldnt handle the greatness of the six axis there either.

Wow, you completely misinterpreted what I said.

"The six axis elements are poorly implemented and frustrate more than they add to the game play." We're not talking about how much more fun that 1-2 seconds sixaxis gameplay was, we're talking about how frustrating steadying the sixaxis for 1-2 seconds was. Simply put... if you can't handle that, well I don't know what to tell you. :?

Unlike Lair, the sixaxis wasn't used in the entire game. Instead, it was only used in small segments where it might make sense to use. And it was easy to use.