To the folks who keep saying " don't worry about UC3 being CODified because during the Beta, ND will finally realize that's it's becoming to COD-ly and will change it back". Well let me tell you that the Devs will not change what they like. Look at KZ3, no matter how many suggestions, outcry and raging from the Beta players are the low health, lack of spawn grenades, Killstreak pop ups, unbalanced maps.....GG cared less and only changed enough of the game to sell, But still kept to what GG wanted KZ3 to be. So I really worry about UC3 being casualized and no the Beta won't change anything, if ND wants UC3 to be casualized, it will be casualized no matter how many complaints
Uncharted 2's online wasn't exactly the hardcore hotspot to begin with. It's pretty damn easy to be good at. Low health, lock on auto aim, lock on grenades, and the stupid melee system all catered towards a broader audience. There were perks as well, just like Call of Duty.
Regardless of all of that the MP was still fun and thats all that really matters to me and I trust that ND can pull it off again
This as well. GG tried to appeal to the masses but ended up falling flat on their face and selling less than KZ2, which didn't sell that well to begin with. Instead of listening to their fanbase, their completely alienated them and tried to make a COD clone with good graphics
Everyone seems to have forgotten that GG was the first PS3 dev this gen to WOW the world with the PS3 while ND was still in the dark. I mean without GG, 360 fanboys wouldve kept the PS3 in check with Geow2 for another year or so
Everyone seems to have forgotten that GG was the first PS3 dev this gen to WOW the world with the PS3 while ND was still in the dark. I mean without GG, 360 fanboys wouldve kept the PS3 in check with Geow2 for another year or soThat's why KZ2 is the highest rated PS3 game ever, and not Uncharted 2. Right?
Lmao, they're using RDR and ACB as examples (two of the worst MPs this gen), they lowered the health significantly (I hate games where it just comes down to who shot first, requires little skill), and they're adding tons of perks and killstreaks (A videoa while back showed an extremely cheap carpet bombing, probably lots of others too). UC3's online will be bad, I dunno about singleplayer, but judging by UC2, it's SP will be awful too. The same shootout the whole game against the same boring enemies with the same boring guns with a few uninteresting puzzles and platforming sequences thrown in to make it seem like ND actually cares.
Uncharted 2's online wasn't exactly the hardcore hotspot to begin with. It's pretty damn easy to be good at. Low health, lock on auto aim, lock on grenades, and the stupid melee system all catered towards a broader audience. There were perks as well, just like Call of Duty.
Regardless of all of that the MP was still fun and thats all that really matters to me and I trust that ND can pull it off again
BPoole96
The health was actually decent and was borderline on requiring skill until they f***ed it all up in an update.
Lmao, they're using RDR and ACB as examples (two of the worst MPs this gen), they lowered the health significantly (I hate games where it just comes down to who shot first, requires little skill), and they're adding tons of perks and killstreaks (A videoa while back showed an extremely cheap carpet bombing, probably lots of others too). UC3's online will be bad, I dunno about singleplayer, but judging by UC2, it's SP will be awful too. The same shootout the whole game against the same boring enemies with the same boring guns with a few uninteresting puzzles and platforming sequences thrown in to make it seem like ND actually cares.
StealthMonkey4
The carpet bombing is part of the map, as UC2 Highrise map had the same thing, which was avoidable.
And Killstreaks? You mean the one you can use ONCE a match? I know, overpowered.....
Everyone seems to have forgotten that GG was the first PS3 dev this gen to WOW the world with the PS3 while ND was still in the dark. I mean without GG, 360 fanboys wouldve kept the PS3 in check with Geow2 for another year or soThat's why KZ2 is the highest rated PS3 game ever, and not Uncharted 2. Right? Naughty Dog is Overrated. Remember when Uncharted 1 was a screen-tear fest? It was Geurilla Games who help ND with triple buffeting to make UC2 tear free like Killzone 2. And now everyone acts like ND started it all on the PS3
Uncharted 2's online wasn't exactly the hardcore hotspot to begin with. It's pretty damn easy to be good at. Low health, lock on auto aim, lock on grenades, and the stupid melee system all catered towards a broader audience. There were perks as well, just like Call of Duty.
Regardless of all of that the MP was still fun and thats all that really matters to me and I trust that ND can pull it off again
StealthMonkey4
The health was actually decent and was borderline on requiring skill until they f***ed it all up in an update.
Yep because all the people who couldn't follow a moving target or aim for the head were getting slaughtered. They went to the message boards and cried and ND listened and changed it. It didn't matter too much since I still did well after the patch, I just had more deaths in matches by people that normally wouldn't have killed me
[QUOTE="ps3-theme"] Everyone seems to have forgotten that GG was the first PS3 dev this gen to WOW the world with the PS3 while ND was still in the dark. I mean without GG, 360 fanboys wouldve kept the PS3 in check with Geow2 for another year or sops3-theme
That's why KZ2 is the highest rated PS3 game ever, and not Uncharted 2. Right? Naughty Dog is Overrated. Remember when Uncharted 1 was a screen-tear fest? It was Geurilla Games who help ND with triple buffeting to make UC2 tear free like Killzone 2. And now everyone acts like ND started it all on the PS3No, not really. Everyone praises Naughty Dog because they provided a solid SP experience with great graphics and awesome story-telling. People need to stop acting like it was the graphics that made Uncharted 2 great....
Honestly, Uncharted 3 looks way more exciting than any CoD multiplayer. They've integrated campaign-caliber setpieces into the multiplayer maps, like with the plane on the runway with trucks tailing it as players hop from truck to truck while they're moving. Crazy stuff, man.
[QUOTE="ps3-theme"] Everyone seems to have forgotten that GG was the first PS3 dev this gen to WOW the world with the PS3 while ND was still in the dark. I mean without GG, 360 fanboys wouldve kept the PS3 in check with Geow2 for another year or sops3-theme
That's why KZ2 is the highest rated PS3 game ever, and not Uncharted 2. Right? Naughty Dog is Overrated. Remember when Uncharted 1 was a screen-tear fest? It was Geurilla Games who help ND with triple buffeting to make UC2 tear free like Killzone 2. And now everyone acts like ND started it all on the PS3 no it wasn't. Sony ICE helped ND ..... they optimized nearly 2/3 of the game. Uncharted 2 had screen tearing and was running below 30fps until ICE optimized it.
Honestly, Uncharted 3 looks way more exciting than any CoD multiplayer. They've integrated campaign-caliber setpieces into the multiplayer maps, like with the plane on the runway with trucks tailing it as players hop from truck to truck while they're moving. Crazy stuff, man.enterawesome
I can't wait till I can play that map, going to be soooooo much fun.
[QUOTE="ps3-theme"] Everyone seems to have forgotten that GG was the first PS3 dev this gen to WOW the world with the PS3 while ND was still in the dark. I mean without GG, 360 fanboys wouldve kept the PS3 in check with Geow2 for another year or sops3-theme
That's why KZ2 is the highest rated PS3 game ever, and not Uncharted 2. Right? Naughty Dog is Overrated. Remember when Uncharted 1 was a screen-tear fest? It was Geurilla Games who help ND with triple buffeting to make UC2 tear free like Killzone 2. And now everyone acts like ND started it all on the PS3
lol
1. you are the same guy that was complaining about changing your name to xbox-theme
2. ND is actually better then GG to the point GG wanted ND to help them with there singleplayer:lol: ND turned them down:lol: they helped make the water affects for killzone 3....thats it
so really out of ND and GG.....who really is the ps3 flagship dev?
[QUOTE="enterawesome"]Honestly, Uncharted 3 looks way more exciting than any CoD multiplayer. They've integrated campaign-caliber setpieces into the multiplayer maps, like with the plane on the runway with trucks tailing it as players hop from truck to truck while they're moving. Crazy stuff, man.Randoggy
I can't wait till I can play that map , going to be soooooo much fun. I second this
Uncharted 2's online wasn't exactly the hardcore hotspot to begin with. It's pretty damn easy to be good at. Low health, lock on auto aim, lock on grenades, and the stupid melee system all catered towards a broader audience. There were perks as well, just like Call of Duty.
Regardless of all of that the MP was still fun and thats all that really matters to me and I trust that ND can pull it off again
Uncharted 2 had lock on auto aim? Lock on grenades? Thats news to me and i have the limited edition.
[QUOTE="ps3-theme"] Naughty Dog is Overrated. Remember when Uncharted 1 was a screen-tear fest? It was Geurilla Games who help ND with triple buffeting to make UC2 tear free like Killzone 2. And now everyone acts like ND started it all on the PS3ps3-theme
lol
1. you are the same guy that was complaining about changing your name to xbox-theme
2. ND is actually better then GG to the point GG wanted ND to help them with there singleplayer:lol: ND turned them down:lol: they helped make the water affects for killzone 3....thats it
so really out of ND and GG.....who really is the ps3 flagship dev?
You are obviously pulling things out of your *** and pointing them out as facts 1. ND helped GG with snow footprints, not water, not the campaign, not graphics. Nothing else. GG never begged ND with help of the kz3 campaign, so quit pulling things out of your *** 2. ND have stated that GG and Insomnia helped them with Triple buffering and other things. UC2 wouldve been a Screen Tear fest without help from other better Sony devs Actually there was no snow in kz2 and they helped them make it. Guess what buddy, they were actually helping A LOT in creating the engine and how to make games on ps3. Remember the old days when devs say it's hard as hell to make games on ps3? ND helped GG a lot with kz2. They helped the most more than any other studio that was there to help. GG is a small dev team back in the day that's why. ND>GG not only because of this, but because every game they made was phenomenal that was on playstation. Ahhh, I miss crash bandicoot. :( GG made a medicore kz1... so yeah. Not to mention clunky controls in kz2 too as well. GG is getting some talent, not up there with ND though. Or should I say GG is ND's b****.
Uncharted 2's online wasn't exactly the hardcore hotspot to begin with. It's pretty damn easy to be good at. Low health, lock on auto aim, lock on grenades, and the stupid melee system all catered towards a broader audience. There were perks as well, just like Call of Duty.
Regardless of all of that the MP was still fun and thats all that really matters to me and I trust that ND can pull it off again
BPoole96
None of that sounds anything like the U2 I've played online, at all. High health and no aim assist I can detect, unless you're talking about shooting from the hip. And lock on grenades? What?
Everyone seems to have forgotten that GG was the first PS3 dev this gen to WOW the world with the PS3 while ND was still in the dark. I mean without GG, 360 fanboys wouldve kept the PS3 in check with Geow2 for another year or so So if a developer has a good graphics engine it makes then the best? :roll:
[QUOTE="ps3-theme"] Naughty Dog is Overrated. Remember when Uncharted 1 was a screen-tear fest? It was Geurilla Games who help ND with triple buffeting to make UC2 tear free like Killzone 2. And now everyone acts like ND started it all on the PS3ps3-theme
lol
1. you are the same guy that was complaining about changing your name to xbox-theme
2. ND is actually better then GG to the point GG wanted ND to help them with there singleplayer:lol: ND turned them down:lol: they helped make the water affects for killzone 3....thats it
so really out of ND and GG.....who really is the ps3 flagship dev?
You are obviously pulling things out of your *** and pointing them out as facts 1. ND helped GG with snow footprints, not water, not the campaign, not graphics. Nothing else. GG never begged ND with help of the kz3 campaign, so quit pulling things out of your *** 2. ND have stated that GG and Insomnia helped them with Triple buffering and other things. UC2 wouldve been a Screen Tear fest without help from other better Sony devs Screen tearing is what makes or breaks a good game. I mean it's not having a good MP and campaign. I mean PSH, if it was that, KZ3 would be like a meh game or something.
[QUOTE="ps3-theme"] Naughty Dog is Overrated. Remember when Uncharted 1 was a screen-tear fest? It was Geurilla Games who help ND with triple buffeting to make UC2 tear free like Killzone 2. And now everyone acts like ND started it all on the PS3ps3-theme
lol
1. you are the same guy that was complaining about changing your name to xbox-theme
2. ND is actually better then GG to the point GG wanted ND to help them with there singleplayer:lol: ND turned them down:lol: they helped make the water affects for killzone 3....thats it
so really out of ND and GG.....who really is the ps3 flagship dev?
You are obviously pulling things out of your *** and pointing them out as facts 1. ND helped GG with snow footprints, not water, not the campaign, not graphics. Nothing else. GG never begged ND with help of the kz3 campaign, so quit pulling things out of your *** 2. ND have stated that GG and Insomnia helped them with Triple buffering and other things. UC2 wouldve been a Screen Tear fest without help from other better Sony devs And Bungie helped GG with KZ2's online... Who cares. And why are we talking about graphics now?
Everyone seems to have forgotten that GG was the first PS3 dev this gen to WOW the world with the PS3 while ND was still in the dark. I mean without GG, 360 fanboys wouldve kept the PS3 in check with Geow2 for another year or so So if a developer has a good graphics engine it makes then the best? :roll: ^ sounds like UC2
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