Unlike Move, Kinect will NEVER be able to be hardcore

The term hardcore is very contravesry in its definition but in Natal case, it includes alot of stuff coz Natal can do too little stuff :D.

Move is being implanted in almost every game on the horizen, sports, racing, Shooters, adventures, platforms, games like Heavy rain ..etc and may be RTS in the near future, while kinect is being removed from some games that was previously announced to support it like Fable3, the Kinect isn't featured in any of the big MS games as far as i know except Forza.

This TGS, some games were announced for kinect with some short trailers and cutscenes with no gameplay at all, ironically people started all kinds of speculations, "Kinect can do hardcore", " Natal can improve, just wait and see". No it can't.

Face it people kinect isn't meant for hardcore gaming, i can't imagine any hardcore gamer standing in front of the screen clapping, jumping or waving his/her hands like an idiot.

i expect it to sell decently tho, mainly due to its other non gaming capabilities, its games will fail hard, the sales will slow down after short time and them decline.

Umm and why should we care which disastorus flop will be worse than the other.

I'll buy Move if it ever gets cheaper. Neither are worth their current price point imo.

If you think Move was designed with hardcore games in mind, you're mistaking.

A game doesn't need to be 'hardcore' to be fun.Ravensmash

And the Wii would never win GOTY, and SONY would follow Dreamcast destiny right?

Kinect looks so bad to me, but that doesn't mean there will not be good games for it.

Since when has a console ever been "teh hardcorz"?

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]A game doesn't need to be 'hardcore' to be fun.omho88

Since when has a console ever been "teh hardcorz"?

Raymundo_Manuel

Since the Magnavox Odyssey was released.

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]A game doesn't need to be 'hardcore' to be fun.omho88

Since when has a console ever been "teh hardcorz"?

Raymundo_Manuel

Since when has a console ever been "teh hardcorz"?

Raymundo_Manuel

/Thread.

Nailed it.

Never is a very long time, and I like how you mention Heavy Rain asa hardcore game because its gameplay is about as casual as you can get at times.

Since when has a console ever been "teh hardcorz"?

Raymundo_Manuel

SNES :D

The term hardcore is very contravesry in its definition but in Natal case, it includes alot of stuff coz Natal can do too little stuff :D.

Move is being implanted in almost every game on the horizen, sports, racing, Shooters, adventures, platforms, games like Heavy rain ..etc and may be RTS in the near future, while kinect is being removed from some games that was previously announced to support it like Fable3, the Kinect isn't featured in any of the big MS games as far as i know except Forza.

This TGS, some games were announced for kinect with some short trailers and cutscenes with no gameplay at all, ironically people started all kinds of speculations, "Kinect can do hardcore", " Natal can improve, just wait and see". No it can't.

Face it people kinect isn't meant for hardcore gaming, i can't imagine any hardcore gamer standing in front of the screen clapping, jumping or waving his/her hands like an idiot.

i expect it to sell decently tho, mainly due to its other non gaming capabilities, its games will fail hard, the sales will slow down after short time and them decline.

omho88

You realize that what you're saying is more speculation than those of us saying that it looks like it's getting some core titles, right?

Umm and why should we care which disastorus flop will be worse than the other.

davidkamayor

Arguing over Kinect and Move is like choosing between getting pissed on or pooped on.

[QUOTE="Raymundo_Manuel"]

Since when has a console ever been "teh hardcorz"?

madsnakehhh

SNES :D

But the definition of hardcore is not "Has good games"or "A controller with buttons"

[QUOTE="omho88"][QUOTE="Ravensmash"]A game doesn't need to be 'hardcore' to be fun.Ravensmash

I wouldn't call games hardcore, at least 99% of them. Hardcore is more about the view of a gamer on it, except in some cases where it just can't be hardcore (eyepet comes to mind). For example I found NGII sigma pretty casual in terms of having just one path, basicly everything flowed with the main line and placing the difficulty on easy you can just storm around and miss as much as you want. Then you have the maximum difficulty. That's what I mean when I say that it depends on the way of playing it most of the time.

[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

[QUOTE="Raymundo_Manuel"]

Since when has a console ever been "teh hardcorz"?

Raymundo_Manuel

SNES :D

But the definition of hardcore is not "Has good games"or "A controller with buttons"

And what is the definition of hardcore?

They're both equaly worthless.

Id say halo is the only "hardcore" game, mainly bc of mlg and people make money by playing it.kipohippo021

Street Fighter, Tekken, StarCraft, FIFA, WarCraft..

It's not the only one.

But the definition of hardcore is not "Has good games" or "A controller with buttons"Raymundo_Manuel

PS: wow, how did I just pull a console>PC in terms of hardcore with a valid argument?

I love it . Two years ago both cows and lemming were talking about how motion sensing games are going to kill the market for hardcore gamers . Now its "NUH UH OURS IS MORE HARDCORE THEN YOURS ".

[QUOTE="Raymundo_Manuel"]

[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

SNES :D

waltefmoney

But the definition of hardcore is not "Has good games"or "A controller with buttons"

And what is the definition of hardcore?

i would love to hear this.

I stopped reading after the 5th spelling error.

I love it . Two years ago both cows and lemming were talking about how motion sensing games are going to kill the market for hardcore gamers . Now its "NUH UH OURS IS MORE HARDCORE THEN YOURS ".

raiden509

In all honesty I think both companies use of motion control will be poor as it is with Nintendo's.

I stopped reading after the 5th spelling error.

TacticalDesire

contravesry :lol: i know that got me too.

[QUOTE="Raymundo_Manuel"]

[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

SNES :D

waltefmoney

But the definition of hardcore is not "Has good games"or "A controller with buttons"

And what is the definition of hardcore?

I don't know that this fits with the definition, but I'd just like to see more games with coherent stories and plotlines.

[QUOTE="TacticalDesire"]

I stopped reading after the 5th spelling error.

lazerface216

contravesry :lol: i know that got me too.

Haha, yes :D

The term hardcore is very contravesry in its definition but in Natal case, it includes alot of stuff coz Natal can do too little stuff :D.

Move is being implanted in almost every game on the horizen, sports, racing, Shooters, adventures, platforms, games like Heavy rain ..etc and may be RTS in the near future, while kinect is being removed from some games that was previously announced to support it like Fable3, the Kinect isn't featured in any of the big MS games as far as i know except Forza.

This TGS, some games were announced for kinect with some short trailers and cutscenes with no gameplay at all, ironically people started all kinds of speculations, "Kinect can do hardcore", " Natal can improve, just wait and see". No it can't.

Face it people kinect isn't meant for hardcore gaming, i can't imagine any hardcore gamer standing in front of the screen clapping, jumping or waving his/her hands like an idiot.

i expect it to sell decently tho, mainly due to its other non gaming capabilities, its games will fail hard, the sales will slow down after short time and them decline.

omho88

~_* your still calling it natal?

Id say halo is the only "hardcore" game, mainly bc of mlg and people make money by playing it.kipohippo021

At the same time you could say its the most casual game ever.

Move is not hardcore. This Move gimmick can turn decent games into casual trash in just 0.022 seconds.

[QUOTE="kipohippo021"]Id say halo is the only "hardcore" game, mainly bc of mlg and people make money by playing it.davidkamayor

At the same time you could say its the most casual game ever.

LMAO, jesus christ this place is hilarious....

Move is not hardcore. This Move gimmick can turn decent games into casual trash in just 0.022 seconds.

hoola

[QUOTE="kipohippo021"]Id say halo is the only "hardcore" game, mainly bc of mlg and people make money by playing it.waltefmoney

Street Fighter, Tekken, StarCraft, FIFA, WarCraft..

It's not the only one.

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="Raymundo_Manuel"]

But the definition of hardcore is not "Has good games"or "A controller with buttons"

lazerface216

And what is the definition of hardcore?

i would love to hear this.

You guys ever heard of a dictionary?

Hardcore - unswervingly committed; uncompromising; dedicated

You will not find "A game with competitive online modes" as an example under the definition of "hardcore"

You can have a hardcore "The Sims" fan, or a hardcore "Wii" owner, but "The Sims" or a Wii all by itself are never going to be hardcore just like an Xbox, and Halo are never going to be hardcore, but the people who compete in the MLG would be hardcore Halo fans.

[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

And what is the definition of hardcore?

i would love to hear this.

You guys ever heard of a dictionary?

Hardcore - unswervingly committed; uncompromising; dedicated

You will not find "A game with competitive online modes" as an example under the definition of "hardcore"

You can have a hardcore "The Sims" fan, or a hardcore "Wii" owner, but "The Sims" or a Wii all by itself are never going to be hardcore just like an Xbox, and Halo are never going to be hardcore, but the people who compete in the MLG would be hardcore Halo fans.

[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

And what is the definition of hardcore?

i would love to hear this.

You guys ever heard of a dictionary?

Hardcore - unswervingly committed; uncompromising; dedicated

You will not find "A game with competitive online modes" as an example under the definition of "hardcore"

You can have a hardcore "The Sims" fan, or a hardcore "Wii" owner, but "The Sims" or a Wii all by itself are never going to be hardcore just like an Xbox, and Halo are never going to be hardcore, but the people who compete in the MLG would be hardcore Halo fans.

[QUOTE="Raymundo_Manuel"]

[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

i would love to hear this.

kipohippo021

You guys ever heard of a dictionary?

Hardcore - unswervingly committed; uncompromising; dedicated

You will not find "A game with competitive online modes" as an example under the definition of "hardcore"

You can have a hardcore "The Sims" fan, or a hardcore "Wii" owner, but "The Sims" or a Wii all by itself are never going to be hardcore just like an Xbox, and Halo are never going to be hardcore, but the people who compete in the MLG would be hardcore Halo fans.

No, the gamers would be hardcore.

since kinect can be used in conjunction with a controller... i think it could possibly get more use from hardcore gamers.

I dont see hardcore gamers picking the move over the standard controller for most games. The move doesnt look to be a device for hardcore gamers, but an option for casual gamers to use in hardcore games.

Real hardcore: One quarter, a diaper, and an Asteroids coin-op for 38 hours....

Anything else is just kidding yourself