Unreal Tournament 3, no cross-platform play.

Epic and BeyondUnreal held an IRC Q&A earlier today. I was browsing through the chat log and came across a question about cross-platform play..and since I've seen alot of discussion here about this issue before, I thought I'd post this here. This is taken from an IRC chat log, so the formatting/continuity of these sentences is going to be a little off:

The question was:

Can you confirm that there will be online multi-player cross platform play between the PS3 and PC?EpicFan

Here's Mark Rein's full response:

There will not be cross platform play at launch. The biggest challenge in doing cross platform play is syncronizing the builds such that the build on the PC is 100% compatible with the build on the PS3. Unfortunately (or fortunately) when you (sic) games on console you have a lengthy certification process to go through each time you release anything new. We looked at how this would impact our ability to respond quickly to things happening at internet speed on the PC side of the equation and realized that this would not be in the best interests of our very loyal PC user base because we would constantly be holding on to updates to wait until they passed cert on the console platform.Mark Rein

He goes on to say:

Our PC fanbase is of ultimate importance to us. They are our bread and butter. We can't let them down or compromise their experience in any way to accomodate cross platform play. This doesn't completely rule out adding this feature at some point in the future after the game has settled down and we've been through a few updates, but even then the likelihood is small.Mark Rein

Edit: According to l-_-l this thread fails unless I provide a link. So there it is (credit goes to wisdomWarrior)

If this is true, I'm kinda dissapointed. :cry:

It will still be the bomb diggity though! ;)

Whoops, guess I shoulda provided a link.

Here's a full copy of the IRC chat log (not very easy on the eyes to read it :P)

Why because 360 owners would get owned by PC and PS3 owners they can use keyboard and mouse?

Good, cross platform play is just a bad idea for any real-time game. PBSnipes

Why because 360 owners would get owned by PC and PS3 owners they can use keyboard and mouse?Vasichko

No..because 360 cross-platform play was never even going to happen.

Microsoft said they wanted to keep a closed network with XBL, and Epic refused to adpot the Live Anywhere platform. So that was pretty much the end of that idea :P The question has since been if PS3/PC cross-platform play would happen. It was answered today.

Good, cross platform play is just a bad idea for any real-time game. PBSnipes

i don't think so. i would love to own some lemmings using my "inferior" controller.

there is just too many fps coming for ps3 in the last two months of the year. a few of them are bound to bomb. not saying ut3 will be one of those that does.-Renegade

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]Good, cross platform play is just a bad idea for any real-time game. -Renegade

i don't think so. i would love to own some lemmings using my "inferior" controller.

I'm having hard time bying anything Mark Rein says. Wasn't it just a while ago when all PC gamers were pirates in his opinion. Anyway, I think this is good news for PC gamers if what he said is true, and not a huge surprise either.EntwineX

[QUOTE="EntwineX"]I'm having hard time bying anything Mark Rein says. Wasn't it just a while ago when all PC gamers were pirates in his opinion. Anyway, I think this is good news for PC gamers if what he said is true, and not a huge surprise either.rdo

Everything stated in the first post is true. I was in the entire chat session and yeah there will not be cross platform play but he did not rule it out coming down the track (although unlikely).

You can view the entire chat log (cleaned up version) over here.

http://www.beyondunreal.com/content/articles/203_1.php

Just proves its a PC game first, but anyone sane didn't need proof.maabus99

yep i was saying this from the begining. cross plat play just isn't practical. I don't know why anyone would want it whether they had a PC or PS3.

I'm having hard time bying anything Mark Rein says. Wasn't it just a while ago when all PC gamers were pirates in his opinion. Anyway, I think this is good news for PC gamers if what he said is true, and not a huge surprise either.EntwineX

That was not Mark Rein.

It was Mike Capps. You're misquoting him, too..If I'm remembering right it was some stupid cop-out response in an interview for the reasoning behind their supporting the 360 and PS3 with UT3.

He said some garbage about trying to make up for the losses of piracy by putting the game on consoles. He said this, even though piracy is NOT AT ALL a problem in the case of the UT franchise..since it's primarily an online game that requires CD-key validation to even connect to the master server.

So yeah..he doesn't know what he's talking about. If you asked the same question of someone more noteworthy at Epic.. like Tim Sweeney, Cliff Bleszenski, or Mark Rein, I'm sure they'd give you a much different answer.

[QUOTE="EntwineX"]I'm having hard time bying anything Mark Rein says. Wasn't it just a while ago when all PC gamers were pirates in his opinion. Anyway, I think this is good news for PC gamers if what he said is true, and not a huge surprise either.Velocitas8

That was not Mark Rein.

It was Mike Capps. You're misquoting him, too..If I'm remembering right it was some stupid cop-out response in an interview for the reasoning behind their supporting the 360 and PS3 with UT3.

He said some garbage about trying to make up for the losses of piracy by putting the game on consoles. He said this, even though piracy is NOT AT ALL a problem in the case of the UT franchise..since it's primarily an online game that requires CD-key validation to even connect to the master server.

So yeah..he doesn't know what he's talking about. If you asked the same question of someone more noteworthy at Epic.. like Tim Sweeney, Cliff Bleszenski, or Mark Rein, I'm sure they'd give you a much different answer.

Oh yeah, that's the guy I meant. And more specifically his comment about people who can afford $600 videocard also know how to use bittorrent, or something like that.
EntwineX

Yup, that's the jist of what he said.

[QUOTE="Vasichko"]

Why because 360 owners would get owned by PC and PS3 owners they can use keyboard and mouse?Velocitas8

No..because 360 cross-platform play was never even going to happen.

Microsoft said they wanted to keep a closed network with XBL, and Epic refused to adpot the Live Anywhere platform. So that was pretty much the end of that idea :P The question has since been if PS3/PC cross-platform play would happen. It was answered today.

You're kidding right?

Cross platform was done with shadowrun. It's up to the developers to use the same network for their game. Considering sony bought exclusivity for unreal tournament 3, that idea is thrown out the window.

Microsoft could've easily paid epic to use that platform...but they already had an agreement with sony.

You're kidding right?

Cross platform was done with shadowrun. It's up to the developers to use the same network for their game. Considering sony bought exclusivity for unreal tournament 3, that idea is thrown out the window.

Microsoft could've easily paid epic to use that platform...but they already had an agreement with sony.MaxPower15

"Kidding?" Did you even read my post?

Shadowrun was done WITHIN the Windows Live platform, made possible mainly because the publisher was Microsoft Game Studios.

Tim Sweeney even said Epic was having talks with Microsoft about cross-platform play, but those talks never went anywhere becuase Epic didn't like how rigid the Windows Live platform was. Microsoft refused to allow Epic to utilize cross-platform play without supporting Windows Live, because they wanted to "keep a closed network."

Epic never "had an agreement" with Sony, if you're trying to imply something with reguards to feature exclusivity.

Edit: For clarafication: Shadowrun on PC is part of that "closed network" Microsoft was talking about. You must have a Live account in order to play the game online.

PC gaming wins like always 8).VACASCULIADAS

not if you dont have a good pc :P

[QUOTE="VACASCULIADAS"]PC gaming wins like always 8).ejstrup

not if you dont have a good pc :P

well this game is still going to be awesome on 360 and PS3. I'm excited :D

[QUOTE="VACASCULIADAS"]PC gaming wins like always 8).ejstrup

not if you dont have a good pc :P

"There will not be cross platform play at launch"

"At launch" does not mean it will never have it. The way his answer reads is atm they would rather get the game out and add the feature later. I still don't understand how this is a problem.

Why because 360 owners would get owned by PC and PS3 owners they can use keyboard and mouse?

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]Good, cross platform play is just a bad idea for any real-time game. Vasichko

haha, id put any 360 user against any PS3 owner in a shooter...

"There will not be cross platform play at launch"

"At launch" does not mean it will never have it. The way his answer reads is atm they would rather get the game out and add the feature later. I still don't understand how this is a problem.

darthogre

Did you read his entire response? Implementing cross-platform play apparently is a problem, and he explained why. Now it could possibly be implemented later on, well after launch when the game isn't being updated very frequently..but if you read his entire response, you'd see he ended with this:

This doesn't completely rule out adding this feature at some point in the future after the game has settled down and we've been through a few updates, but even then the likelihood is small.Mark Rein

This is why I still Love Epic after all these years, it's comments like this:

[QUOTE="VACASCULIADAS"]PC gaming wins like always 8).ejstrup

not if you dont have a good pc :P

Naturally, PC Gamers have gaming rigs, right? Otherwise, they wouldn't be PC Gamers. What you are suggesting is an oxymoron.

Epic and BeyondUnreal held an IRC Q&A earlier today. I was browsing through the chat log and came across a question about cross-platform play..and since I've seen alot of discussion here about this issue before, I thought I'd post this here. This is taken from an IRC chat log, so the formatting/continuity of these sentences is going to be a little off:

The question was:

[QUOTE="EpicFan"]Can you confirm that there will be online multi-player cross platform play between the PS3 and PC?Velocitas8

Here's Mark Rein's full response:

There will not be cross platform play at launch. The biggest challenge in doing cross platform play is syncronizing the builds such that the build on the PC is 100% compatible with the build on the PS3. Unfortunately (or fortunately) when you (sic) games on console you have a lengthy certification process to go through each time you release anything new. We looked at how this would impact our ability to respond quickly to things happening at internet speed on the PC side of the equation and realized that this would not be in the best interests of our very loyal PC user base because we would constantly be holding on to updates to wait until they passed cert on the console platform.Mark Rein

He goes on to say:

Our PC fanbase is of ultimate importance to us. They are our bread and butter. We can't let them down or compromise their experience in any way to accomodate cross platform play. This doesn't completely rule out adding this feature at some point in the future after the game has settled down and we've been through a few updates, but even then the likelihood is small.Mark Rein

/THREAD

Just proves its a PC game first, but anyone sane didn't need proof.maabus99

...the PC is still our lead platform for UT

link

Oh and this sounds cool.

UT3 will include underwater areas in certain levels, with users able to fight underwater...

Im pleased.

Much rather stick around with just the PC gaming community which is already very mature and large for UT.

[QUOTE="l-_-l"]First we need a link or you are just wasting mine and everybody elses time. Anybody can come here and make a thread saying anything they want, but without a link, it is wasted thread. Thats like the cops saying I killed somebody, but yet presents no proof to back it up. This thread................FAILS!!!!!!!!!

/THREAD

Velocitas8

I provided one on the first page, dork :P

This link was also posted by another user.

yeah , some people here wont even take their time to read up before they post, pay more attention next time

iam glad that there will be no cross plataform play, they would probly have to adjust gameplay to make it fair for both sides, and ps3 probly has some sort of auto aim(i dont really know about this) and even if it didnt i woudnt want to play with somone on my team that plays using a controller, please it would be a freekill

Whoops, guess I shoulda provided a link.

Here's a full copy of the IRC chat log (not very easy on the eyes to read it :P)

Velocitas8

[QUOTE="Velocitas8"][QUOTE="l-_-l"]First we need a link or you are just wasting mine and everybody elses time. Anybody can come here and make a thread saying anything they want, but without a link, it is wasted thread. Thats like the cops saying I killed somebody, but yet presents no proof to back it up. This thread................FAILS!!!!!!!!!

/THREAD

Mizarus

I provided one on the first page, dork :P

This link was also posted by another user.

yeah , some people here wont even take their time to read up before they post, pay more attention next time

iam glad that there will be no cross plataform play, they would probly have to adjust gameplay to make it fair for both sides, and ps3 probly has some sort of auto aim(i dont really know about this) and even if it didnt i woudnt want to play with somone on my team that plays using a controller, please it would be a freekill

The only dork here is you. You didn't provide it in your first post. I shouldn't have to read the whole first page to find the link, you should be smart enough to post it in your first post. I guess somebody wasn't that smart now was they. :roll:l-_-l

It was in the second post....

The only dork here is you. You didn't provide it in your first post. I shouldn't have to read the whole first page to find the link, you should be smart enough to post it in your first post. I guess somebody wasn't that smart now was they. :roll:l-_-l

You quoted the wrong person..

..Dork ;)

I didn't put a link in the first post, because all I had at the time was a .txt file chat log of the event. I'll add a link to the first post if it'll appease you, though.

[QUOTE="l-_-l"]The only dork here is you. You didn't provide it in your first post. I shouldn't have to read the whole first page to find the link, you should be smart enough to post it in your first post. I guess somebody wasn't that smart now was they. :roll:Lonelynight

no, you the one whos still looking bad, most people go trough the whole thread before they come in and post, so they wont make them self look bad sayng stuff like that

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