Upgrading display to higher resolution is not that worthwhile

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#1 kangarbloodyroo
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Howdy,

Can't speak for everyone else but I personally found the upgrade from 1440P to 4K was minimal or even negligible the first time playing however when I went back to 1440P from 4K the difference was huge. This is very different from when I upgraded from 1080P to 1440P where I was blown away the moment I saw it. 1440P is a 77.78% jump from 1080P but 4K is a whopping 125% jump from 1440P. Why was I unable to tell the difference initially when I upgraded to 4K, anyone else in the same boat? I guess the question is more so, was upgrade to 1440P from 1080P supposed to be that much noticeable than 4K from 1440P?

1080P = 1920 x 1080 -> 2073600 Pixels

1440P = 2560 x 1440 -> 3686400 Pixels

2160P = 3840 x 2160 -> 8294400 Pixels

Difference b/w 1440p and 1080p = (3686400-2073600)/2073600

Difference b/w 4k and 1440p = (8294400-3686400)/3686400

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#2 lrdfancypants
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Peasant. I only game in 24k Rez & Gold

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#3 appariti0n
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It really isn't, unless you can hit that higher resolution with high-ultra settings and over 60 fps imo.

Plus, 1080p displays that do 144 hz can still make use of nvidia DSR or the amd equivalent anyhow.

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#4  Edited By superbuuman
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will be sticking with 1080p till my plasma dies...that was 5 ( I think, maybe be even longer) years ago now..plasma still works. :P

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Perceptible detail. Sometimes a higher resolution texture or more detail will actually look worse at a given display resolution because from the play angle it is possible it will cause artifacting.

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#6 DragonfireXZ95
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Honestly, the biggest difference you'll see, at least in PC gaming, is going from regular 16:9 to 21:9.

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I think I'm sticking with 1440p and going 144-165Hz with Gsync instead of 4K/60. 4K/60 is still tough to hit and high refresh rates actually impact gameplay, while resolution is just visual. Especially at 27"

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#8 Juub1990
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Yeah upgrading to 4K isn't all that fantastic. Downgrading from it is huge though.

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#9 PopGotcha
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60 to 144hz is much more worthwhile IMO

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#10  Edited By FLOPPAGE_50
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you must be blind.

(and all the cows damage controlling 4k lulz)

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#11  Edited By EndofAugust
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@DragonfireXZ95 said:

Honestly, the biggest difference you'll see, at least in PC gaming, is going from regular 16:9 to 21:9.

No it's not, it's going from 60hz to 120+ with FPS to match. This resolution targeting is just stupid, for consoles that's one thing as performance is not of the utmost importance for targeting and they're made for use on televisions, but for PC it's backward.

With the advent of high refresh rate monitors why would you choose to subject yourself to a 60hz refresh rate? It's disgusting. Why would you think that 60 FPS is a good target to shoot for, that's low as shit. I see so many PC gamers around here talking like console gamers and it makes me laugh because you can tell that they're recent converts.

It's a balancing act, 1440p only became viable for PC gaming a few years ago when they introduced 144hz monitors, LCD gaming in general on PC only became tolerable about 6 years ago when high refresh rate with low response time monitors finally entered the market.

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@DragonfireXZ95 said:

Honestly, the biggest difference you'll see, at least in PC gaming, is going from regular 16:9 to 21:9.

Am looking into getting a ultrawidescreen monitor however am not quite happy with the current market offerings. The Acer x34/ ASUS PG34Q are soon to be replaced with new models, the AOC is a budget option that is far too overpriced. The samsung CF791 is freesync. The newer ASUS and Acer monitors would cost a fortune, you could get a decent 1440P 165hz monitor as well as a 4k hdr tv for the amount they're asking for those new monitors.

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you must be blind.

(and all the cows damage controlling 4k lulz)

what was the saying? Don't feed the troll?

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My what a difference from 2013 to 2016. I was told higher res allowed me to be a better gamer

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@endofaugust said:
@DragonfireXZ95 said:

Honestly, the biggest difference you'll see, at least in PC gaming, is going from regular 16:9 to 21:9.

No it's not, it's going from 60hz to 120+ with FPS to match. This resolution targeting is just stupid, for consoles that's one thing as performance is not of the utmost importance for targeting and they're made for use on televisions, but for PC it's backward.

With the advent of high refresh rate monitors why would you choose to subject yourself to a 60hz refresh rate? It's disgusting. Why would you think that 60 FPS is a good target to shoot for, that's low as shit. I see so many PC gamers around here talking like console gamers and it makes me laugh because you can tell that they're recent converts.

It's a balancing act, 1440p only became viable for PC gaming a few years ago when they introduced 144hz monitors, LCD gaming in general on PC only became tolerable about 6 years ago when high refresh rate with low response time monitors finally entered the market.

Look at this guy. The elitist is just reeking, man. You may want to take a break from SW. I think it's starting to get to you.

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#15  Edited By Epak_
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I've only played Skyrim at 4k and well... not impressed, maybe because it's such an old game and IMO never looked that great to begin with. Will give my final answer when da X is released.

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#16  Edited By QuadKnight
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@DragonfireXZ95 said:
@endofaugust said:
@DragonfireXZ95 said:

Honestly, the biggest difference you'll see, at least in PC gaming, is going from regular 16:9 to 21:9.

No it's not, it's going from 60hz to 120+ with FPS to match. This resolution targeting is just stupid, for consoles that's one thing as performance is not of the utmost importance for targeting and they're made for use on televisions, but for PC it's backward.

With the advent of high refresh rate monitors why would you choose to subject yourself to a 60hz refresh rate? It's disgusting. Why would you think that 60 FPS is a good target to shoot for, that's low as shit. I see so many PC gamers around here talking like console gamers and it makes me laugh because you can tell that they're recent converts.

It's a balancing act, 1440p only became viable for PC gaming a few years ago when they introduced 144hz monitors, LCD gaming in general on PC only became tolerable about 6 years ago when high refresh rate with low response time monitors finally entered the market.

Look at this guy. The elitist is just reeking, man. You may want to take a break from SW. I think it's starting to get to you.

It got to him a long time ago.

NyaDC aka dynamitecop went off the deep end years ago if we're being honest.

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@Epak_ said:

I've only played Skyrim at 4k and well... not impressed, maybe because it's such an old game and IMO never looked that great to begin with. Will give my final answer when da X is released.

There's a lot unsaid here...what settings? What mods did you use? What gpu? Anyways...Skyrim in 4k with a brick ton of mods looks pretty amazing. If you are playing the base game, it's not going to look much better (maybe fewer jaggies) at all. In order for 4k games to really look sharp, they need all those 4k textures to fill in all the fine geometry. I modded out Skyrim SE with some 70+ mods (maybe 20 or so visual) and I have to say it looked pretty darned good. Night and day difference between vanilla/modded.

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#19 SecretPolice
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Nuff....

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I just got a 4K tv. Spent awhile fiddling with the features. So much crap you need to change, turn down, or turn off.

For the love of all that is good turn off that tru motion garbage and turn down the brightness. Nothing is meant to be watched that way!

Anyway...so far the 4K content on bluray and on netflix has been impressive. I'm curious what 4K gaming looks like.

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#21 KMP
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It's about PPI, not straight resolution. At some point the PPI hits a limit for perceptible difference because of how far you're sitting, or how well your eyes are to seeing the difference. It can make a huge deal with anti aliasing for sure.

Ultrawide monitors are fucking dope man, but that shit is expensive.

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I noticed the same until i realised its down to the game. Newer games are actually worse than last gen. Depending on the game BF1, SW battlefront, Rise of the tomb raider they look fantastic in 4K. While a game like Fallout 4 just looks smoothed out because the textures are pretty shitty.

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#23  Edited By Bluesy
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Fallout 4 took a silly amount of mods to make 4k worth it haha, avoiding Bethesda's official high res pack and going for nexus mods was much better in the end.

I have to admit, despite how good 4k looks, going from 1080p/144hz to 4k/60hz was very noticeably less smooth.

In a few years we'll live the 4k/144hz dream.

Edit: with a single card solution

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#24 ShepardCommandr
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in game i cant really notice a massive difference between 1440p and 4k but on the desktop the difference is huge.

You have so much space to work with.

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#25 Ghost120x
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Went from 1080 to 4K. It was huge to me.

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#26  Edited By Epak_
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@demi0227_basic: On PS4 PRO, so no mods there. I've installed some Skyrim mods on PC (my rig can't handle 4k) though, Witcher 3 looks better than modded Skyrim.

@Bread_or_Decide said:

I just got a 4K tv. Spent awhile fiddling with the features. So much crap you need to change, turn down, or turn off.

For the love of all that is good turn off that tru motion garbage and turn down the brightness. Nothing is meant to be watched that way!

Anyway...so far the 4K content on bluray and on netflix has been impressive. I'm curious what 4K gaming looks like.

HDR content benefits from maxed out (or almost maxed) backlight brightness, but it really depends what TV you have for the rest of the settings.

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#27 EndofAugust
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@nixy789 said:
@endofaugust said:
@DragonfireXZ95 said:

Honestly, the biggest difference you'll see, at least in PC gaming, is going from regular 16:9 to 21:9.

No it's not, it's going from 60hz to 120+ with FPS to match. This resolution targeting is just stupid, for consoles that's one thing as performance is not of the utmost importance for targeting and they're made for use on televisions, but for PC it's backward.

With the advent of high refresh rate monitors why would you choose to subject yourself to a 60hz refresh rate? It's disgusting. Why would you think that 60 FPS is a good target to shoot for, that's low as shit. I see so many PC gamers around here talking like console gamers and it makes me laugh because you can tell that they're recent converts.

It's a balancing act, 1440p only became viable for PC gaming a few years ago when they introduced 144hz monitors, LCD gaming in general on PC only became tolerable about 6 years ago when high refresh rate with low response time monitors finally entered the market.

Yet your in other Xbone x threads going how great 4K is with avg FPS of 30 - 60?.

A console isn't a PC, a console doesn't have a high refresh rate monitor to take advantage of. I want to partake in 4K gaming, I simply have no interest in it with my PC as my priorities in terms of targeting are elsewhere.

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#28 mazuiface
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I'd rather have devs stick to getting 60+fps than go straight for 2160 vertical pixels. Hell, 60fps is a better target than 4k and it greatly improves the look of a game.

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#29 glez13
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I mostly only upgrade when my hardware dies. My last CRT monitor lasted me until 2009. Then I used laptops for a while until I bought a PC and monitor in 2012.

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#30 lundy86_4
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I'll take the fps/graphics settings over resolution (over 1080p). That being said, higher resolutions really do improve the IQ.

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#31 Wizard
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This was my issue with 4k v. 1080p, particularly in shooters. The move to 4k in some games doesn't really look like much (it varies), but when I went back to 1080p my eyes were actually squinting to try and get a clearer picture of the image. That was on a 55" display. Once you go 4k, it's really hard to go back and the benefits go past graphics.