US Navy Pilot calls the Xbone "A sin committed against all service members.

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#1 emgesp
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Pretty harsh, but I agree with him. Microsoft basically gave the finger to our men and women in service by not allowing for an offline mode. 

http://www.vg247.com/2013/06/13/us-navy-serviceman-calls-xbox-ones-24-hour-online-check-a-sin-committed-against-all-service-members/ 

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#2 II_Seraphim_II
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Aight aight aight...look im all for the MS bash train but this is getting a lil crazy now lol. A sin? come on now...hyperbole much?
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#3 UCF_Knight
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MS doesn't respect the military confirmed. Oh and I've heard they don't think puppies and kittens are cute. Bring on the hate. :x
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#4 LustForSoul
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They can still play Xbox 360.
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#5 SaltyMeatballs
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Load of shit. Xbone is terrible, but Microsoft is not in the business to please service men/women.

Wow, get a PS4, stop crying it's all made in China for f*cks sake.

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#6 Badosh
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Aight aight aight...look im all for the MS bash train but this is getting a lil crazy now lol. A sin? come on now...hyperbole much?II_Seraphim_II
Agreed. People are going crazy.
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#7 kinectthedots
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Load of shit. Xbone is terrible, but Microsoft is not in the business to please service men/women.

Wow, get a PS4, stop crying it's all made in China for f*cks sake.

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#8 menes777
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Pretty harsh, but I agree with him. Microsoft basically gave the finger to our men and women in service by now allowing for an offline mode. 

http://www.vg247.com/2013/06/13/us-navy-serviceman-calls-xbox-ones-24-hour-online-check-a-sin-committed-against-all-service-members/ 

emgesp

It is a pretty shitting thing to do to shut out a demogaph.  I think they should have either the online check or the disc must be in the drive.  That way if you are anti-physical disc you just let the online thing do it's job and if you don't have online just keep in the disc.  Problem solved.

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#9 Jack-Burton
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Thou shalt not taketh away a man's offline gaming. So it is said, so it is written praise be to cloud.
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#10 heretrix
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Doesn't he have more important things to worry about?

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#11 Sweenix
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He should join the navy, then he will see an even bigger sin

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#12 LJS9502_basic
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Doesn't he have more important things to worry about?

heretrix
He's not allowed to have an opinion? And I'd hope everyone had more important things to worry about than a gaming console. Doesn't mean they can't have an opinion. Foolish post dude.
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#13 lilnazar
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Lol the whole world is against it. Navy Seals. The Police.. Everyone!

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the people who sign their lives away to kill and ruin in the name of a government at outright war against it's ow people.  i have so much sympathy for them.  not.

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#16 clr84651
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They can still play Xbox 360. LustForSoul

They can play the  PS4. So who gives a crap? It's the best console by far. 

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So tell him to buy a PS4 and stop bitching about it.
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Microsoft doesn't support our brave soldiers!

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The 'murica box is anti 'murica.
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the people who sign their lives away to kill and ruin in the name of a government at outright war against it's ow people.  i have so much sympathy for them.  not.

THETRUEDOZAH
I'm at war with my government? Someone should have told me sooner, I haven't stocked up on guns and ammo!
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#21 lilnazar
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Xbone is the most wanted criminal.

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#22 HadOne2Many
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No where in the link or the original post on Gamasutra does it say this guy is a Seal. TC is an idiot. Also I am also a service member, and Mr. Johnson doesn't represent all of us. I am waiting to see the plan Microsoft has in place for Active Duty Military before I condemn them. As an officer you would think he would also wait until he had all the facts before making such a bold statement.
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#23 clone01
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Good lord.  Settle down.  Its a f*cking game console.

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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

Doesn't he have more important things to worry about?

LJS9502_basic

He's not allowed to have an opinion? And I'd hope everyone had more important things to worry about than a gaming console. Doesn't mean they can't have an opinion. Foolish post dude.

It isn't foolish. He's in the goddamn military. Not saying that they shouldn't be able to play video games; but saying it's a sin because you may not be able to play a certain game console while you are deployed? Really? Please. 

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I'm in the military, served in Iraq and when we do have some down time, it's nice to be able to jump on a game console and try relax, so to the people saying "Doesn't he have other things to worry about?", of course we do, are you under the perception that all we do 24 hours a day is work and what not?

With that being said, I DO think he overreacted a bit, calling it a "sin" is kind of foolish, besides, didnt MS say they would have some kind of patch for situations like this?

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#26 UCF_Knight
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Good lord.  Settle down.  Its a f*cking game console.

clone01
An anti-consumer, anti-American, anti-freedom, anti-military game console. Who does that leave? The non-military people in third world countries that don't buy anything and stay off the internet. And they can't even buy the thing.. Zero sales confirmed!
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#27 TecmoGirl
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Is it really that hard for people to just simply switch to the competition without all the theatrics? Some of the XB anger going around is so passionate, that its almost as if ppl would rather die than go with Sony  -- but now have no choice as if they're settling for less. :?

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#28 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="heretrix"]

Doesn't he have more important things to worry about?

heretrix

He's not allowed to have an opinion? And I'd hope everyone had more important things to worry about than a gaming console. Doesn't mean they can't have an opinion. Foolish post dude.

It isn't foolish. He's in the goddamn military. Not saying that they shouldn't be able to play video games; but saying it's a sin because you may not be able to play a certain game console while you are deployed? Really? Please. 

Don't you something better to worry about than one man's opinion? Really? Please.
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Hitler >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Xbox One
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#30 Randolph
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They can still play Xbox 360. LustForSoul
Or just get PS4's. :P
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#31 WitIsWisdom
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I need to read the story more in depth, but I must say this.

Having been in the military (USMC) and having fought in two combat deployments... Time was pretty damn limited for me as a grunt and even less time while I was attached to recon.

So anyways, my point is this... I would like to know when in the hell a NAVY seal is finding time to play games in the first place... I mean, I know a lot has changed since I was over there at the tail end of Baghdad and both pushes through Fallujah, but what in the hell? Our country continues down the drain economy wise and we are paying Navy SEALS to play games overseas?

I support ALL military members and salute my fellow veterans, but I was asking the question several years ago... "why are we still here" and then I hear something like this?

Look I hate what Microsoft is doing as much as the next person, but if this is your biggest complaint when you are deployed overseas while in an elite special forces... something isn't right.

I played video games exactly 0 times in both of my tours combined, and I only saw some consoles connected in a USO tent on an Army mechanized base ONE time.

Things have changed a lot, what a joke...

However, I don't bash him because grunts/recon and seals are very competitive with each other... it just sounds pretty damn petty.

Makes you wonder why as we continue to drain billions of dollars into a war (HALO wars it sounds like) why our countries don;t pull us out.

This is NOT bashing him or anybody else over there... it still sucks EITHER WAY being away from friends and family, and I know they don't make the decisions but wtf...

I'm not going to lie though, getting paid nearly twice as much on deployment and playing games all day would hve been the shit :P (not saying that is all they do now)

Maybe things have changed to where more support has came into the established bases... I don't know...

However, this is NOT a reason to bash the X1.

*Chesty puller must be rolling in his grave*

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#32 DragonfireXZ95
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Is it really that hard for people to just simply switch to the competition without all the theatrics? Some of the XB anger going around is so passionate, that its almost as if ppl would rather die than go with Sony  -- but now have no choice as if they're settling for less. :?

TecmoGirl

A lot of people are terribly misinformed about Sony products. Hell, I have a friend whom I found out recently didn't even know Battlefield and Call of Duty were on PS3. I'm like, "wut?" He was going to go Xbone, and now I'm trying to convince him otherwise.

Of course, this is what you call ignorant consumers, and it's also retailers' favorite kind of consumers.

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#33 heretrix
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I'm in the military, served in Iraq and when we do have some down time, it's nice to be able to jump on a game console and try relax, so to the people saying "Doesn't he have other things to worry about?", of course we do, are you under the perception that all we do 24 hours a day is work and what not?

 

With that being said, I DO think he overreacted a bit, calling it a "sin" is kind of foolish, besides, didnt MS say they would have some kind of patch for situations like this?

Nagidar

I never said that all you should do is work. I'm saying that bitching about a specific console manufacturer not catering to your needs and calling it a sin is a bit silly. Considering what the military does I'd figure there would be far more pressing matters to be worried about.

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#34 Randolph
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Anyhoo, the system will be hacked at some point to fake the authentication signal, so it'll be all good eventually.
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#35 Randolph
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[QUOTE="Nagidar"]

I'm in the military, served in Iraq and when we do have some down time, it's nice to be able to jump on a game console and try relax, so to the people saying "Doesn't he have other things to worry about?", of course we do, are you under the perception that all we do 24 hours a day is work and what not?

 

With that being said, I DO think he overreacted a bit, calling it a "sin" is kind of foolish, besides, didnt MS say they would have some kind of patch for situations like this?

heretrix

I never said that all you should do is work. I'm saying that bitching about a specific console manufacturer not catering to your needs and calling it a sin is a bit silly. Considering what the military does I'd figure there would be far more pressing matters to be worried about.

I'm pretty sure this guy took all of a few minutes to express his dislike for MS's system. I assure you, he had plenty of time left in the day for "more important things" when he said it.
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] He's not allowed to have an opinion? And I'd hope everyone had more important things to worry about than a gaming console. Doesn't mean they can't have an opinion. Foolish post dude.LJS9502_basic

It isn't foolish. He's in the goddamn military. Not saying that they shouldn't be able to play video games; but saying it's a sin because you may not be able to play a certain game console while you are deployed? Really? Please. 

Don't you something better to worry about than one man's opinion? Really? Please.

That's a pretty ironic statement genius.

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#37 HadOne2Many
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@WitIsWisdom the guy who made the comment isn't a SEAL, nor did he ever claim to be.  TC is just an idiot.  The guy is a Pilot, and they do have a lot of downtime.

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Anyhoo, the system will be hacked at some point to fake the authentication signal, so it'll be all good eventually.Randolph

I would guess you are right. I predicted the same thing

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So tell him to buy a PS4 and stop bitching about it.DragonfireXZ95
everyone has the right to be a bitch
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#40 WitIsWisdom
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@WitIsWisdom the guy who made the comment isn't a SEAL, nor did he ever claim to be. TC is just an idiot. The guy is a Pilot, and they do have a lot of downtime.

HadOne2Many

lol... ok, that explains a lot. A flyboy.

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#41 Randolph
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[QUOTE="Randolph"]Anyhoo, the system will be hacked at some point to fake the authentication signal, so it'll be all good eventually.WitIsWisdom

I would guess you are right. I predicted the same thing

Oh I know I'm right. It's just a given at this point. The Xbone has a massive target on it's back and the second this thing is in the wild, the countdown timer starts.
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ST6: Pentagon, this is Navy Seal Team Six, come in... Pentagon: Read you clear, ST6... ST6: As of 18:00 hours PST, we have officially captured and killed the Xbox one...Confirm? Pentagon: Copy. Confirm.
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#43 LordQuorthon
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The 'murica box is anti 'murica.campzor

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#44 WitIsWisdom
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[QUOTE="WitIsWisdom"]

[QUOTE="Randolph"]Anyhoo, the system will be hacked at some point to fake the authentication signal, so it'll be all good eventually.Randolph

I would guess you are right. I predicted the same thing

Oh I know I'm right. It's just a given at this point. The Xbone has a massive target on it's back and the second this thing is in the wild, the countdown timer starts.

How long do you think it will take, and what happens if these hackers hack the camera? I mean.... that would cause some pretty widespread panic with the people claiming the camera is not a spy device... Their is such a HUGEtarget now that this is all hackers will be working on until they do get in. I think SONY learned their lesson from being arrogant.. looks like Micrsoft will have a turn too. I know a lot of those hackers say they do it for principle and it has nothing to do with personal gain.

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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]So tell him to buy a PS4 and stop bitching about it.strawhatlupi
everyone has the right to be a bitch

I guess. The only question is: it worth it to be a bitch about stupid shit that is easy to steer around?
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="heretrix"]It isn't foolish. He's in the goddamn military. Not saying that they shouldn't be able to play video games; but saying it's a sin because you may not be able to play a certain game console while you are deployed? Really? Please. 

heretrix

Don't you something better to worry about than one man's opinion? Really? Please.

That's a pretty ironic statement genius.

I think you misused the word irony....but I'm glad you realized I am a genius. Things are looking up for you.....
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XB1=Serious Business
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#48 lx_theo
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the people who sign their lives away to kill and ruin in the name of a government at outright war against it's ow people.  i have so much sympathy for them.  not.

THETRUEDOZAH
DO NOT TURN THIS INTO SOME STUPID ****ING POLITICAL DEBATE PLEASE.
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#49 clone01
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[QUOTE="clone01"]

Good lord.  Settle down.  Its a f*cking game console.

UCF_Knight
An anti-consumer, anti-American, anti-freedom, anti-military game console. Who does that leave? The non-military people in third world countries that don't buy anything and stay off the internet. And they can't even buy the thing.. Zero sales confirmed!

Okay.