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#1 shadow8585
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The majority...I will go as far as to say vast majority of us on these boards live in the U.S./North America. If we are going to make an issue of sales, and we do, we also must look at the impact they will have on us. MS and Sony each have divisions/headquarters in the 3 major territories (Japan, NA, Europe). Personally I love seeing the 360, my console of choice, doing best in my home territory because as they have been, MS will continue to give their most support to America. Unfortunately the same cant be said about the PS3, which stumbled through January in NA to say the least. This pattern of 360 dominating in NA while PS3 dominates in Japan and its fairly even in Europe has been going on for a long time. That is why we are seeing great games geared toward what Americans like such as Mass Effect, Dead Rising 2, Splinter Cell Conviction and Halo Reach released on the 360 this year and games like Modnation Racer coming out for the PS3

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#2 lundy86_4
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This mentality is what gives Americans the stereotype of caring only about the US.

They are important, but you should also care about sales outside of your borders.

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#3 bleehum
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No, sales from everywhere matter. Prepare to be torn to shreds, good sir.
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#4 m0tl3ysl4y3r
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This mentality is what gives Americans the stereotype of caring only about the US.

They are important, but you should also care about sales outside of your borders.

lundy86_4

I agree, sales everywhere are important because thats more money for the company

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#5 clubsammich91
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Well I might move so a small island in French Polynesia. Does that mean I might as well not use GS? Same goes for any other non US person hear?
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#6 Kashiwaba
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Well I'm not American so I dont care xD.

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#7 gillri
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This mentality is what gives Americans the stereotype of caring only about the US.

They are important, but you should also care about sales outside of your borders.

lundy86_4

LOl agreed Im from the UK have both consoles, and i love both western and Eastern games , in recent times though I have preferred Western games over eastern games particularly RPG's

but then a game like The Last Guardian comes along with that uniquely special quality about it and then I realise that Im a huge fan of japanese games as well

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#8 Phoenix534
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This mentality is what gives Americans the stereotype of caring only about the US.

They are important, but you should also care about sales outside of your borders.

lundy86_4

Yup. Worldwide>>>>>>>>America. As an American, I apologize on behalf of my nation's ignorance.

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#9 RavenLoud
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This mentality is what gives Americans the stereotype of caring only about the US.

They are important, but you should also care about sales outside of your borders.

lundy86_4
Canada FTW! Seriously NPD should include Canada. I don't think its much trouble at all. Also I hate the mentality of releasing games like you mentioned. It's because of people like you that I can only play Tales of Vesperia in japanese :evil: Demon's souls could have been unreleased in NA as well.
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#10 zarshack
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If you want to appear ignorant to the existance of the rest of the world go ahead. I live in Australia and so no i will not be blinded into pretending there is only 1 country in the world.

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#11 IgGy621985
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Right... Patriotic much?

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#12 EliteKitteh
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Why should we only care about America when the majority of games are sold in the rest of the world? American sales can be misleading. Sometimes the bigger picture is very different.

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#13 Eddie-Vedder
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Good job TC, you just made lems and americans look bad in one hit. Applauds*

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I think the only region you could really argue that doesn't matter is Japan due to their reluctancy to purchase western games which have become the larger focus of this generation, which results in most developers not caring about eastern userbases due to them having little impact sales wise on software

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#15 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

This mentality is what gives Americans the stereotype of caring only about the US.

They are important, but you should also care about sales outside of your borders.

Phoenix534

Yup. Worldwide>>>>>>>>America. As an American, I apologize on behalf of my nation's ignorance.

:P

I find many Americans to be completely different from teh stereotypes, so no apology is necessary. Unfortunately you do get the odd few (I live in Niagara, right on the US/Canada border), but that can be said for every nation.

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#16 Half-Way
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This mentality is what gives Americans the stereotype of caring only about the US.

They are important, but you should also care about sales outside of your borders.

lundy86_4

this.

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#17 EPaul
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Lol keep thinking that

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I think the only region you could really argue that doesn't matter is Japan due to their reluctancy to purchase western games which have become the larger focus of this generation, which results in most developers not caring about eastern userbases due to them having little impact sales wise.

opex07

Oh yeah. Japan is insignificant. They only bought 30 million DS's :lol:

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#19 lundy86_4
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Canada FTW! Seriously NPD should include Canada. I don't think its much trouble at all. Also I hate the mentality of releasing games like you mentioned. It's because of people like you that I can only play Tales of Vesperia in japanese :evil: Demon's souls could have been unreleased in NA as well.RavenLoud

Haha, I do enjoy Canada... Apart from the damn snow!

I wish NPD did do NA as a whole. I dunno how difficult it would be though.

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#20 finalfantasy94
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I dont get why NPD should be the main thing to care about when people talk about sales. After all its not world wide. So you are never truly getting the whole number.

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#21 2mrw
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Good job TC, you just made lems and americans look bad in one hit. Applauds*

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my same thoughts exactly, double good job TC.
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As gamers we shouldn't care about sales period.

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#23 mgkennedy5
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Um... no? These are international companies operating on a global sale, so no, one area does not matter over others like that. And it's just another reason why Americans think they are better than everyone else for some reason. You're just trying to justify the fact that 360 sells better in NA so we should only care about that... I mean honestly, come on now...
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The majority...I will go as far as to say vast majority of us on these boards live in the U.S./North America. If we are going to make an issue of sales, and we do, we also must look at the impact they will have on us. MS and Sony each have divisions/headquarters in the 3 major territories (Japan, NA, Europe). Personally I love seeing the 360, my console of choice, doing best in my home territory because as they have been, MS will continue to give their most support to America. Unfortunately the same cant be said about the PS3, which stumbled through January in NA to say the least. This pattern of 360 dominating in NA while PS3 dominates in Japan and its fairly even in Europe has been going on for a long time. That is why we are seeing great games geared toward what Americans like such as Mass Effect, Dead Rising 2, Splinter Cell Conviction and Halo Reach released on the 360 this year and games like Modnation Racer coming out for the PS3

shadow8585
I don't think all of America supports the 360; in fact, there are alot of countries that support other systems. For example, in Panama (excluding the wii), the ps3 outsells the 360 and I think other countries in America also support the ps3 more than the 360. But, I must admit that the 360 gets an excellent support there in U.S. and Canada.
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#25 shadow8585
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Worldwide

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

This mentality is what gives Americans the stereotype of caring only about the US.

They are important, but you should also care about sales outside of your borders.

Phoenix534

Yup. Worldwide>>>>>>>>America. As an American, I apologize on behalf of my nation's ignorance.

You obviously did not understand the fairly clear point that I made. With the PS3 selling far better in Japan, the vast majority of games designed for Japanese people will be released on PS3. With the 360 selling better in America, and its software selling way better in America, the majority of games designed for Americans will be, and are released on X360, because of the sales, which transaltes to $$$
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#26 Regisland
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After many threads,I still have no idea why people care so much about sales here in SW.

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#27 FIipMode
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Thats a terrible mentality.
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#28 zarshack
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As gamers we shouldn't care about sales period.

Shad0ki11

Its not even about the sales, he pretty much said that America is the only country that matters.

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#29 Regisland
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Worldwide [QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

This mentality is what gives Americans the stereotype of caring only about the US.

They are important, but you should also care about sales outside of your borders.

shadow8585

Yup. Worldwide>>>>>>>>America. As an American, I apologize on behalf of my nation's ignorance.

You obviously did not understand the fairly clear point that I made. With the PS3 selling far better in Japan, the vast majority of games designed for Japanese people will be released on PS3. With the 360 selling better in America, and its software selling way better in America, the majority of games designed for Americans will be, and are released on X360, because of the sales, which transaltes to $$$

So are you saying that Americans will only make games for the 360? :lol:

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#30 opex07
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[QUOTE="opex07"]

I think the only region you could really argue that doesn't matter is Japan due to their reluctancy to purchase western games which have become the larger focus of this generation, which results in most developers not caring about eastern userbases due to them having little impact sales wise.

EliteKitteh

Oh yeah. Japan is insignificant. They only bought30 million DS's :lol:

What you said has very little to do with my argument, but looking at those 30 million owners only 34 titles have passed a million in sales on the DS in Japan, and the majority of them are created by a few publishers so very few developers are seeing substantial sales from that region.
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#31 shadow8585
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Sorry for making a generalization.....the MAJORITY of AMERICANS prefer AMERICAN games and AMERICAN GAMES release on the system that sells best in AMERICA! XBOX 360. The MAJORITY of JAPANESE prefer JAPANESE games and JAPANESE GAMES release on the system that sells best in JAPAN! PS3.
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#32 EliteKitteh
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As gamers we shouldn't care about sales period.

Shad0ki11

Sales are important. If Halo Combat Evloved didn't sell there probably wouldn't be a 360. If Final Fantasy I didn't sell Square wouldn't be around today. If the Playstation brand wasn't so strong the PS3 wouldn't have survived past 2007.

Sales influence everything.

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#33 finalfantasy94
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After many threads,I still have no idea why people care so much about sales here in SW.

Regisland

Its fanboy ammo nothing more or less.

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#34 Phoenix534
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Worldwide [QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

This mentality is what gives Americans the stereotype of caring only about the US.

They are important, but you should also care about sales outside of your borders.

shadow8585

Yup. Worldwide>>>>>>>>America. As an American, I apologize on behalf of my nation's ignorance.

You obviously did not understand the fairly clear point that I made. With the PS3 selling far better in Japan, the vast majority of games designed for Japanese people will be released on PS3. With the 360 selling better in America, and its software selling way better in America, the majority of games designed for Americans will be, and are released on X360, because of the sales, which transaltes to $$$

So, you're saying we should ignore Japan because they like the PS3 more.

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#35 Phoenix534
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Sorry for making a generalization.....the MAJORITY of AMERICANS prefer AMERICAN games and AMERICAN GAMES release on the system that sells best in AMERICA! XBOX 360. The MAJORITY of JAPANESE prefer JAPANESE games and JAPANESE GAMES release on the system that sells best in JAPAN! PS3. shadow8585

Change all those AMERICAs to WESTs and it'll at least be somewhat true.

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#36 TBoogy
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Good job TC, you just made lems and americans look bad in one hit. Applauds*

Eddie-Vedder
Not really, because despite what anyone says, most people want to play whatever their friends are playing. As a salesperson, I have seen it a thousand times. People want what everyone else wants. Yes, worldwide is important to the companies that sell the hardware. But when it comes down to it, the games and support we get in one region are based on sales in that region. Thats why Sony could get a FF exclusive deal in Japan, but there is no way Square would give them one here., etc. etc. And I would like to play with the highest percent of people I personally know. Which, now that I think about it is a big win for the 360. I only know one PS3 gamer, and he is intimidated about gaming online. But I totally get why a person in Japan would want a Playstation.
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#37 Xire_XII
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Not a good mentality.

Nobody should "care" about sales at all. That is unless you've invested some stock in any of the said companies and or have some similar connection that is detrimental financially. Regardless, all sales matter. Even if it's for fun.

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#38 IgGy621985
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Sorry for making a generalization.....the MAJORITY of AMERICANS prefer AMERICAN games and AMERICAN GAMES release on the system that sells best in AMERICA! XBOX 360. The MAJORITY of JAPANESE prefer JAPANESE games and JAPANESE GAMES release on the system that sells best in JAPAN! PS3. shadow8585

Well, I'm European (Croat) and I like every kind of games. American, European, Japanese, white, black, yellow, whatever. I don't care. As long as they're good.

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[QUOTE="shadow8585"]Sorry for making a generalization.....the MAJORITY of AMERICANS prefer AMERICAN games and AMERICAN GAMES release on the system that sells best in AMERICA! XBOX 360. The MAJORITY of JAPANESE prefer JAPANESE games and JAPANESE GAMES release on the system that sells best in JAPAN! PS3. IgGy621985

Well, I'm European (Croat) and I like every kind of games. American, European, Japanese, white, black, yellow, whatever. I don't care. As long as they're good.

Welcome to America!

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Um... no? These are international companies operating on a global sale, so no, one area does not matter over others like that. And it's just another reason why Americans think they are better than everyone else for some reason. You're just trying to justify the fact that 360 sells better in NA so we should only care about that... I mean honestly, come on now...mgkennedy5
I didn't get that from his post at all. I just saw him try to explain why he thinks certain types of games are released on certain systems. It was really not that far fetched.
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Worldwide [QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

This mentality is what gives Americans the stereotype of caring only about the US.

They are important, but you should also care about sales outside of your borders.

shadow8585

Yup. Worldwide>>>>>>>>America. As an American, I apologize on behalf of my nation's ignorance.

You obviously did not understand the fairly clear point that I made. With the PS3 selling far better in Japan, the vast majority of games designed for Japanese people will be released on PS3. With the 360 selling better in America, and its software selling way better in America, the majority of games designed for Americans will be, and are released on X360, because of the sales, which transaltes to $$$

Erm, theres a small place called Europe aswell. You might of heard of it. And alot of us non japanese like japanese games....
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Firstly, I'm an American and proud of it! And I know that sales in the US directly effect my gaming experience potential. Having said that, worldwide sales are important as well. Not just for gamers in other markets, but it could trickle down and effect me and my fellow Americans.


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So, I'll have to disagree with this attitude.

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[QUOTE="shadow8585"]Worldwide [QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

Yup. Worldwide>>>>>>>>America. As an American, I apologize on behalf of my nation's ignorance.

Birdy09

You obviously did not understand the fairly clear point that I made. With the PS3 selling far better in Japan, the vast majority of games designed for Japanese people will be released on PS3. With the 360 selling better in America, and its software selling way better in America, the majority of games designed for Americans will be, and are released on X360, because of the sales, which transaltes to $$$

Erm, theres a small place called Europe aswell. You might of heard of it. And alot of us non japanese like japanese games....

Japanese games are too Chinese for me

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[QUOTE="Birdy09"][QUOTE="shadow8585"] You obviously did not understand the fairly clear point that I made. With the PS3 selling far better in Japan, the vast majority of games designed for Japanese people will be released on PS3. With the 360 selling better in America, and its software selling way better in America, the majority of games designed for Americans will be, and are released on X360, because of the sales, which transaltes to $$$HermitGTX

Erm, theres a small place called Europe aswell. You might of heard of it. And alot of us non japanese like japanese games....

Japanese games are too Chinese for me

Yea, we know your a lemming with a "Hermit" name already we get that much. :P, how is Mario, GT ect "chinese"?
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[QUOTE="mgkennedy5"]Um... no? These are international companies operating on a global sale, so no, one area does not matter over others like that. And it's just another reason why Americans think they are better than everyone else for some reason. You're just trying to justify the fact that 360 sells better in NA so we should only care about that... I mean honestly, come on now...TBoogy
I didn't get that from his post at all. I just saw him try to explain why he thinks certain types of games are released on certain systems. It was really not that far fetched.

he says profits, losses come from the sum of all sales around the globe, selecting one area only matter for those who wants to claim ownage.
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[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]

Good job TC, you just made lems and americans look bad in one hit. Applauds*

2mrw

my same thoughts exactly, double good job TC.

Can't help but shake at my head at the bigheaded assumption TC made. There's a lot of people of different nationality here.

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itt = marks getting trolled

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lol And disregard what's going on in the rest of the world? I think not.
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#50 TBoogy
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[QUOTE="TBoogy"][QUOTE="mgkennedy5"]Um... no? These are international companies operating on a global sale, so no, one area does not matter over others like that. And it's just another reason why Americans think they are better than everyone else for some reason. You're just trying to justify the fact that 360 sells better in NA so we should only care about that... I mean honestly, come on now...2mrw
I didn't get that from his post at all. I just saw him try to explain why he thinks certain types of games are released on certain systems. It was really not that far fetched.

he says profits, losses come from the sum of all sales around the globe, selecting one area only matter for those who wants to claim ownage.

I am only referring to his opening post. Not sure what he may have said since then.