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#51 Human-after-all
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Kinda sad that they would go out of their way to make fun of another genre of gaming. I love Value and all but what makes a TF2 any better than a party game?

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Uh...depth. Then you are gonna go and say "well how is TF2 any more in depth than a party game" then there is just no point arguing after that going no where.
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#52 deactivated-59d151f079814
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="rzepak"]

Well Molineaux likes Natal so there is hope. Personally I hope for a Black & White game for consoles with natal controls.

rzepak

Screw that, I want Dungeon Keeper 3 and another Populous.. Vastly superior game series compared to Fable and Black & white.

Impossible. Peter doesnt have the rights to those game anyome.

I CAN DREAM CAN'T I? :cry:

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#53 Half-Way
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great,

now they just need 5 more years

so they can finally get sick of FPS too

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#54 skrat_01
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They are correct.

what has valve done that is remotely oringinal "gameplay" wise since.. half life 2. Me thinks they need to keep shhhh'd until they stop milking tf2 and lfd series.

o0squishy0o
Guess you have kind of missed L4D's emergent narrative and Portal's genre blending?
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#55 deactivated-59d151f079814
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Go Valve, now go get to work on one of your "original" FPS games!!! :P I would think they would also be getting sick of rehashing the L4D series or FPS games in general since that has been all they have ever done. jimmarko21876

.. If anything as FPS's go Valve is quite tame, where L4D was a completely new and quite original IP, and L4D2 according to most peoples opinions was a great evolution from that.. TF2 to this day is still some of the best and most unique fps action out there.. Things like playing a spy are some of the hardest roles to playdue to having to trick your enemy..

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#56 bad_fur_day
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Everytime I hear of project natal I feel a stong urge to :facepalm:

Project Natal is the worst name ever. Like, ever. Extremely talented microsoft execs earning their 200k a year...

"It's like naval but not and it's a project!" jeezuz

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#57 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="jimmarko21876"]Go Valve, now go get to work on one of your "original" FPS games!!! :P I would think they would also be getting sick of rehashing the L4D series or FPS games in general since that has been all they have ever done. sSubZerOo

.. If anything as FPS's go Valve is quite tame, where L4D was a completely new and quite original IP, and L4D2 according to most peoples opinions was a great evolution from that.. TF2 to this day is still some of the best and most unique fps action out there.. Things like playing a spy are some of the hardest roles to playdue to having to trick your enemy..

Also, one sequel and you're sick of "rehashing?"
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#59 surrealnumber5
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L4D is a party game........
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#60 PannicAtack
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L4D is a party game........surrealnumber5
I'm not seeing it.

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#61 WilliamRLBaker
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Sadly natal will likely produce nothing but now, If they had kept the processor in the natal camera they could have done loads more with the thing then it will now...since they've taken it out I'm am competely against natal.

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#62 deactivated-59d151f079814
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L4D is a party game........surrealnumber5

Party game specifically means a collection of mini games.. L4D is most certainly not that.

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#63 Phaze-Two
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They are correct. [QUOTE="o0squishy0o"]

what has valve done that is remotely oringinal "gameplay" wise since.. half life 2. Me thinks they need to keep shhhh'd until they stop milking tf2 and lfd series.

skrat_01

Guess you have kind of missed L4D's emergent narrative and Portal's genre blending?

completely and utterly owned. Valve is one of the few true innovators this gen.

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#64 dezzyfiesta
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[QUOTE="rzepak"]

[QUOTE="RedruM_I"]Is Natal even going to be capable for games that are not **** party games? :|sSubZerOo

Well Molineaux likes Natal so there is hope. Personally I hope for a Black & White game for consoles with natal controls.

Screw that, I want Dungeon Keeper 3 and another Populous.. Vastly superior game series compared to Fable and Black & white.

If they could gag Molineaux then Lionheads games might stand half a chance of at least reaching some of the expectation they are released to! Is there actually any chance of another Populous or Dungeon Keeper? Fantastic games. Would good to see more as long as EA didn't screw them up.
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#65 surrealnumber5
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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]L4D is a party game........sSubZerOo

Party game specifically means a collection of mini games.. L4D is most certainly not that.

all but the final rounds can be played in a few mins if that. i have had games of L4D with friends that last a shorter amount of time then a game of wii sports tennis with the same group of friends.
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#66 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]L4D is a party game........surrealnumber5

Party game specifically means a collection of mini games.. L4D is most certainly not that.

all but the final rounds can be played in a few mins if that. i have had games of L4D with friends that last a shorter amount of time then a game of wii sports tennis with the same group of friends.

That's not in the definition of a party game.

A party game is a game that is generally a wide-appeal, easy-to-pick-up game, generally simple. Usually it means it consists of several mini-games, such as Warioware (more accurately "microgames" there) and Mario Party. Even if it's single-genre, such as Smash Bros or Mario Kart, it still follows the other main criteria of being simple and having a wide appeal. You don't have to like fighting games to like Smash Bros, or racing games to like Mario Kart.

L4D... is a shooter. If you don't like shooters, you probably won't like L4D. And the campaigns can be fairly lengthy for a multiplayer game. Also, it's mostly online, unless you're doing splitscreen on the 360. Why you would play a Valve game on the 360, I have no clue, but that's pretty much the only way it has anything in common with a party game. And by that logic, Quake Live or Halo's online multiplayer are party games, too.

Also, it's a stretch to call Smash Bros or Mark Kart party games, too.

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#67 deactivated-59d151f079814
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]L4D is a party game........surrealnumber5

Party game specifically means a collection of mini games.. L4D is most certainly not that.

all but the final rounds can be played in a few mins if that. i have had games of L4D with friends that last a shorter amount of time then a game of wii sports tennis with the same group of friends.

So by your logic Street Fighter is a party game series? I don't think so.. L4D is specifically just that, while party games are a collection of completely different small games.

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#68 PannicAtack
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How does L4D fit into this or this definition?

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#69 kozzy1234
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[QUOTE="Vesica_Prime"]

[QUOTE="o0squishy0o"]

Me thinks they need to keep shhhh'd until they stop milking tf2

o0squishy0o

You do realise that Valve has only released two Team Fortress games and is currently supporting Team Fortress 2 with new updates and free DLC?Tell me, how the **** is that even considered milking.

Here have a hat... oh have some other free pointless stuff. Obviously since people

No not just hats... Tons of new modes to play.... TONS of new maps, and a bunch of new gameplay changing new weapons. The game that TF2 is now is at least 5 times the game it was when it first came out. Payload mode and Arena mode are amazing and all the new weapons are fantastic.

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#70 longtonguecat
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As valve don't develop for the PS3, I couldn't give a crap what valve think.

-Grieves-

Why post then? o_o

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#71 timmy00
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what has valve done that is remotely oringinal "gameplay" wise since.. half life 2. Me thinks they need to keep shhhh'd until they stop milking tf2 and lfd series.

o0squishy0o

What is the world coming to?

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#72 HavocV3
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lol.

Valve has already angered PS3 users.

think this is enough to anger Wii users now too? not quite as direct, however.

Left 4 Dead could work, it's a fairly simple game, in terms of mechanics and gameplay. I'll stick to L4D2 because I'm not liking this motion control boom.

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#73 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="-Grieves-"]

As valve don't develop for the PS3, I couldn't give a crap what valve think.

longtonguecat

Why post then? o_o

And why complain? Who wants to play a Valve game on a console?
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#74 Dystopian-X
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Thanks Valve for summarizing my thoughts on party games.

Now would you please make a few more games that don't use the First person perspective? ;D

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#75 PannicAtack
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Thanks Valve for summarizing my thoughts on party games.

Now would you please make a few more games that don't use the First person perspective? ;D

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While we're at it, let's ask Bioware to stop making RPGs?
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#76 gugler990
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but i want to kill zombies with my imaginary chainsaw :( :x :cry:

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#77 Dystopian-X
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While we're at it, let's ask Bioware to stop making RPGs?PannicAtack
I'm just saying while I agree, if they are gonna complain about ppl making too many games of the same type, they should look at themselves in a mirror first.

Also I didn't say stop, I said make some more :P

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#78 surrealnumber5
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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

Party game specifically means a collection of mini games.. L4D is most certainly not that.

PannicAtack

all but the final rounds can be played in a few mins if that. i have had games of L4D with friends that last a shorter amount of time then a game of wii sports tennis with the same group of friends.

That's not in the definition of a party game.

A party game is a game that is generally a wide-appeal, easy-to-pick-up game, generally simple. Usually it means it consists of several mini-games, such as Warioware (more accurately "microgames" there) and Mario Party. Even if it's single-genre, such as Smash Bros or Mario Kart, it still follows the other main criteria of being simple and having a wide appeal. You don't have to like fighting games to like Smash Bros, or racing games to like Mario Kart.

L4D... is a shooter. If you don't like shooters, you probably won't like L4D. And the campaigns can be fairly lengthy for a multiplayer game. Also, it's mostly online, unless you're doing splitscreen on the 360. Why you would play a Valve game on the 360, I have no clue, but that's pretty much the only way it has anything in common with a party game. And by that logic, Quake Live or Halo's online multiplayer are party games, too.

Also, it's a stretch to call Smash Bros or Mark Kart party games, too.

how is smash bro's a mini game and not L4D... there is no taking it back you called smash bro's a mini game

edit: i love my pc shooters

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#79 surrealnumber5
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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

Party game specifically means a collection of mini games.. L4D is most certainly not that.

sSubZerOo

all but the final rounds can be played in a few mins if that. i have had games of L4D with friends that last a shorter amount of time then a game of wii sports tennis with the same group of friends.

So by your logic Street Fighter is a party game series? I don't think so.. L4D is specifically just that, while party games are a collection of completely different small games.

i would count street fighter a party game even though i built a arcade machine just for street fighter 3 third strike
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#80 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] all but the final rounds can be played in a few mins if that. i have had games of L4D with friends that last a shorter amount of time then a game of wii sports tennis with the same group of friends. surrealnumber5

That's not in the definition of a party game.

A party game is a game that is generally a wide-appeal, easy-to-pick-up game, generally simple. Usually it means it consists of several mini-games, such as Warioware (more accurately "microgames" there) and Mario Party. Even if it's single-genre, such as Smash Bros or Mario Kart, it still follows the other main criteria of being simple and having a wide appeal. You don't have to like fighting games to like Smash Bros, or racing games to like Mario Kart.

L4D... is a shooter. If you don't like shooters, you probably won't like L4D. And the campaigns can be fairly lengthy for a multiplayer game. Also, it's mostly online, unless you're doing splitscreen on the 360. Why you would play a Valve game on the 360, I have no clue, but that's pretty much the only way it has anything in common with a party game. And by that logic, Quake Live or Halo's online multiplayer are party games, too.

Also, it's a stretch to call Smash Bros or Mark Kart party games, too.

how is smash bro's a mini game and not L4D... there is no taking it back you called smash bro's a mini game

I did not call Smash Bros a mini-game. I simply gave it as an example of a game that is not a mini-game collection, yet might still count as a "Party Game." And that distinction is still dubious.

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#81 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] all but the final rounds can be played in a few mins if that. i have had games of L4D with friends that last a shorter amount of time then a game of wii sports tennis with the same group of friends. surrealnumber5

So by your logic Street Fighter is a party game series? I don't think so.. L4D is specifically just that, while party games are a collection of completely different small games.

i would count street fighter a party game even though i built a arcade machine just for street fighter 3 third strike

You can't just make up terrible new definitions.
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#82 surrealnumber5
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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

So by your logic Street Fighter is a party game series? I don't think so.. L4D is specifically just that, while party games are a collection of completely different small games.

PannicAtack

i would count street fighter a party game even though i built a arcade machine just for street fighter 3 third strike

You can't just make up terrible new definitions.

if i play it at parties i count it as a party game, and when i host parties the arcade gets much play.

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The best thing about that article is that Valve said Natal was very cool.Anjunaddict

And the best thing about your post is you. You're so special and cool. And pretty. I love you.