Valve is the best developer that has ever lived... and is still living

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#1 flacracker173
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I just got the orange box for my PC. TF2 is one of the the best if not the best multiplayer game ever. Half-life 2 and the episodes are amazing as well. I look at the prices on steam and all the stuff for the orange box comes out to $84. They charge $30. On steam they have the valve complete pack which includes the newly resealed Left 4 Dead. Its price altogether is $239... They charge $99. With some of the best deals known to man and the best games known to man they are truly the best developer that has ever lived... And is still living.

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#2 FirstDiscovery
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Too bad HL2 and EP1 were crap
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#3 TheNextOrder
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I played through the demo of halflife 1 yesterday.... game was bloody amazing for its time. Anyone know where I can download the full version?

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#4 dgsag
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I played through the demo of halflife 1 yesterday.... game was bloody amazing for its time. Anyone know where I can download the full version?

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www.steampowered.com?
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#5 FirstDiscovery
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I played through the demo of halflife 1 yesterday.... game was bloody amazing for its time. Anyone know where I can download the full version?

TheNextOrder
Yeah Uplink is pretty awesome, much more action-packed than the full game. HL1 wasnt aged all that well though
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#6 masori
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and the slowest

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#7 Tiefster
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and the slowest

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I'd rather wait and get quality than buy something that I will forget about in a month.
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#8 TheNextOrder
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[QUOTE="TheNextOrder"]

I played through the demo of halflife 1 yesterday.... game was bloody amazing for its time. Anyone know where I can download the full version?

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sweet thnx.

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#9 mattbbpl
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HL1 wasnt aged all that well thoughFirstDiscovery
Really? I still prefer to play through the original rather than Half Life 2 (although it's a great game in it's own right as well).

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#10 flacracker173
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Too bad HL2 and EP1 were crapFirstDiscovery
Too bad they are not crap... They are some of the greatest games ever made and have a 96 on metacritic. You are a cow
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#11 Saturos3091
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Their games are all lacking a lot of depth. They're overglorified for what they do, but are still excellent developers.

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#12 FirstDiscovery
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[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]Too bad HL2 and EP1 were crapflacracker173
Too bad they are not crap... They are some of the greatest games ever made and have a 96 on metacritic. You are a cow

HL2 has this great opening, and then its just plain boring, the firefights have no feel to them whatsoever and dont get me started on the buggy rides. As for EP1, its an absolute joke
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#13 404-not-found
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Not really, the only game Valve has developed actually is the HL series. They're an excellent company, though, for steam, and businesses in general. Smart guys.
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#14 jg4xchamp
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Their games are all lacking a lot of depth. They're overglorified for what they do, but are still excellent developers.

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I agree with this I love Valve for there presentation, polish, and overall quality although Team Fortress 2 is probably my favorite MP game(well that and Halo 3)
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#15 CreepyBacon
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Blizzard says hi.

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#16 mattbbpl
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Blizzard says hi.

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Nintendo as well. There are a lot of great developers that could be argued here.
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#17 FirstDiscovery
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[QUOTE="CreepyBacon"]

Blizzard says hi.

mattbbpl
Nintendo as well. There are a lot of great developers that could be argued here.

WIi Music says hi;)
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#18 Giancar
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one of the best for sure
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#19 Giancar
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Too bad HL2 and EP1 were crapFirstDiscovery
only IYO
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#20 Nerd_Man
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[QUOTE="flacracker173"][QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]Too bad HL2 and EP1 were crapFirstDiscovery
Too bad they are not crap... They are some of the greatest games ever made and have a 96 on metacritic. You are a cow

HL2 has this great opening, and then its just plain boring, the firefights have no feel to them whatsoever and dont get me started on the buggy rides. As for EP1, its an absolute joke

I must say, the begining for me was pretty lame too, and the objective of where I was supposed to go didn't feel clearly laid out. But after I actually got further into the game, I realized how awesome it really is. I got truly addicted to all the HL2 games, and made me realize why they are among one of the best FPS's ever.

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#21 mattbbpl
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[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"][QUOTE="mattbbpl"][QUOTE="CreepyBacon"]

Blizzard says hi.

Nintendo as well. There are a lot of great developers that could be argued here.

WIi Music says hi;)

Not my thing. But I can't discredit decades of stellar products because they released something that I don't enjoy. Animal Crossing isn't my thing either, but that doesn't mean Nintendo is a bad developer because of it.
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#22 TheGrat1
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Can't say I share your enthusiasm or point of view. Insomniac Games FTW!
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#23 Nerd_Man
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[QUOTE="mattbbpl"][QUOTE="CreepyBacon"]

Blizzard says hi.

FirstDiscovery

Nintendo as well. There are a lot of great developers that could be argued here.

WIi Music says hi;)

The fact that anyone would use Wii Music in defense (over the hundreds of other good to legendary titles Nintendo has ever made) against someone who says Nintendo is a good developer, clearly leaves off a bad case of fanboyism.

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#24 TheNextOrder
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[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"][QUOTE="mattbbpl"] Nintendo as well. There are a lot of great developers that could be argued here.mattbbpl
WIi Music says hi;)

Not my thing. But I can't discredit decades of stellar products because they released something that I don't enjoy. Animal Crossing isn't my thing either, but that doesn't mean Nintendo is a bad developer because of it.

The thing that pisses me off about Nintendo is that they could be a lot greater. Imagine how awesome they could make an adult themed action/adventure new IP if they put their minds to it... but no... they're all about the money (which is expected, but still dissapointing).

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#25 ANeuralPathway
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Left4Dead says no.

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#26 bestibomber
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I just got the orange box for my PC. TF2 is one of the the best if not the best multiplayer game ever. Half-life 2 and the episodes are amazing as well. I look at the prices on steam and all the stuff for the orange box comes out to $84. They charge $30. On steam they have the valve complete pack which includes the newly resealed Left 4 Dead. Its price altogether is $239... They charge $99. With some of the best deals known to man and the best games known to man they are truly the best developer that has ever lived... And is still living.

flacracker173
WHAT.. steam makes you pay a charge/fee ?
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#27 Ncsoftlover
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It's popular to love Valve, and to bash Blizzard these days, but because I dislike the FPS genre, I vote Blizzard for this title.

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#28 bladeeagle
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Reason I like valve is that they actively listen and care for their customers. You find great deals, listening to feedback on the forums, free updates all at once.

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#29 DaViD_99
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[QUOTE="bladeeagle"]

Reason I like valve is that they actively listen and care for their customers. You find great deals, listening to feedback on the forums, free updates all at once.

Yeah thats true. And free DLC. They are probably my favourite FPS developers with Left 4 Dead for best co op, Half Life1/2 for singleplayer and story, and then team fortress 2/ Counter Strike for Multiplayer.
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#30 flacracker173
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I never said that Blizzard was bad... EA is bad in the areas i talked about though. But Valve is the best.

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#31 Ross_the_B0SS
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I think Team Fortress 2 is more fun than Halo 3 but I think Bungie is the better developer. They really care about their fans. It's borderline creepy how much they care.

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#32 malikmmm
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Too bad HL2 and EP1 were crapFirstDiscovery
:shock: ?
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#33 lolfaqs
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They're fun little games, but nothing mind blowing.

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#34 ragek1ll589
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Valve is definitely a top developer in terms of creating a succesful a game/series. Saying they are the best is subjective since different genres and styles of games appeal to different people.

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#35 Ragashahs
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will i do agree they're one of the better devs i'd prefer they stick to PC only for their big games cause it's clear that valve only focus most of the time hell even orange box and L4D on 360 don't really stack up to it's 360 counterparts i hope after this EP3 is done they ditch the that plan cause i'd rather wait 5 or 6 years for a full game rather than a new short episode ever 2 years

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#36 deactivated-594be627b82ba
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hahaha good one, oh wait your serious about this

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#37 bri360
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Too bad HL2 and EP1 were crapFirstDiscovery

too bad you dont know what a good game is. HL2 is the best FPS out there.

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#38 Mr_Apple_Soup
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[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]Too bad HL2 and EP1 were crapflacracker173
Too bad they are not crap... They are some of the greatest games ever made and have a 96 on metacritic. You are a cow

he's a cow? HE'S A COW? the game is out on PC, XBOX, and PS3....:?

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#39 Im_single
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One of the best Devs? Of course, granted almost everything they make past HL is a rip off of one mod or another. In terms of customer satisfaction, giving gamers what they want, and overall just listening to their fan base they are great. Their games are stellar, but not as fantastic as the PC gamers lead everyone else to believe.
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#40 purple_MAN1832
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I like valve...:D

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#41 kozzy1234
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Valve >>>> All

Team Fortress2, Counterstrike Source, Left4Dead, Half LIfe 1 and 2, Portal, etc...

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#42 gamer620
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Too bad HL2 and EP1 were crapFirstDiscovery
Episode 1 was crap, HL2 on the other hand was good, and Episode 2 was exceptional.
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#43 Zero5000X
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they haven't really made enough games or diverse enough games to establish themselves as number 1. they should try their hand at something besides FPS.
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#44 WllDan7
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They are go at making fps and portal, but that is about it. They don't make anything not in first person.

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#45 grr320
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they haven't really made enough games or diverse enough games to establish themselves as number 1. they should try their hand at something besides FPS.Zero5000X
they should learn to make their own graphics engine, valve licensed the quake 1 engine to make half life 1 and they still used code from quake 1 engine to make their source engine for half life 2. but the source engine is too out of date why dont they atleast rewrite the engine to support per pixel dynamic lighting?
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#46 Great_Ragnarok
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definitely in the top 5 of developers!
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#47 itzagir
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I just got the orange box for my PC. TF2 is one of the the best if not the best multiplayer game ever. Half-life 2 and the episodes are amazing as well. I look at the prices on steam and all the stuff for the orange box comes out to $84. They charge $30. On steam they have the valve complete pack which includes the newly resealed Left 4 Dead. Its price altogether is $239... They charge $99. With some of the best deals known to man and the best games known to man they are truly the best developer that has ever lived... And is still living.

flacracker173
I LOVE Valve. But i hate the fact that they didn't include Half-Life 2 DEATHMATCH in their Orange Box deal. I play it til this day and think it is the most skillful multiplayer game. But the community is almost dead :/
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#48 Ballroompirate
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Valve are good devs but they arent the best.

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#49 wooooode
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I think Nintendo and Capcom have exceeded them by a decent amont but they are near the top.
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#50 itzagir
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[QUOTE="Zero5000X"]they haven't really made enough games or diverse enough games to establish themselves as number 1. they should try their hand at something besides FPS.grr320
they should learn to make their own graphics engine, valve licensed the quake 1 engine to make half life 1 and they still used code from quake 1 engine to make their source engine for half life 2. but the source engine is too out of date why dont they atleast rewrite the engine to support per pixel dynamic lighting?

I love the source engine. Some if not the best physics out there and every game they release has this particular style i seem to like no matter how bad grass textures look. Also, games like L4D look pretty good on a high end PC.