Valve quote We messed up on PS3

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Orange Box 'didn't put our best foot forward', developer tells CVG

Valve has told CVG that it didn't put its "best foot forward" on PS3 with The Orange Box - and that it is working to "get better" on the system.

The PS3 version of The Orange Box - a huge commercial and critical success on Xbox 360 - was criticised by some quarters after Valve outsourced its development to EA.

The game was marked down by reviewers - with frame rate issues becoming a common bugbear.

Valve writer Chet Faliszek told CVG:

"We thought that the Orange Box didn't put our best foot forward with the PS3 community. We don't want to do something like that again on the PS3. We want to give PS3 owners the best possible experience.

"Some of that will come from us learning and getting better. Before we can go onto the PS3 again, we want to make sure we're better at developing for it."

The comments come after Faliszek said that Valve would develop on PS3 "down the road".

I don't want to sound mean, but I want Episode 3 before PS3 support.

The more the merrier, I guess.

Good for PS3 owners I guess.

This is a couple of days old, but they obviously don't believe what they said since Portal 2 was just announced for PC/360. This is just PR talk, if Valve really gave a s*** they would develop for PS3. Plenty of other developers can do it, so there's no excuse for Valve.kittyloaf69

[QUOTE="kittyloaf69"]This is a couple of days old, but they obviously don't believe what they said since Portal 2 was just announced for PC/360. This is just PR talk, if Valve really gave a s*** they would develop for PS3. Plenty of other developers can do it, so there's no excuse for Valve.jasonharris48

A lot of resolutions in SW lately. Now people can end the whole "Valve are lazy fanboys." comments.

i just want ZOMbieeeesssss............

A lot of resolutions in SW lately. Now people can end the whole "Valve are lazy fanboys." comments.

boredy-Mcbored

okay i take my comments back. there not lazy

I just hope they can get Left 4 Dead 2 ported, as well as work towards Portal 2 and Episode 3 on the PS3.

[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

[QUOTE="kittyloaf69"]This is a couple of days old, but they obviously don't believe what they said since Portal 2 was just announced for PC/360. This is just PR talk, if Valve really gave a s*** they would develop for PS3. Plenty of other developers can do it, so there's no excuse for Valve.kittyloaf69

With all the great games PS3 has to offer both graphically and technically, it does make them look rather lazy for not stepping up, and i think they see that a good game can sell well on the system now so it would benefit them to take their time and try not to get so frustrated. Forget this we are busting our butt trying to make this work and it aint even going to sell well, is probably what they said.

With all the great games PS3 has to offer both graphically and technically, it does make them look rather lazy for not stepping up, and i think they see that a good game can sell well on the system now so it would benefit them to take their time and try not to get so frustrated. Forget this we are busting our butt trying to make this work and it aint even going to sell well, is probably what they said.

SonyIsh6Fotta

exactly now they see that ps3 is a force to be recond with and are taking back their words.

This is a couple of days old, but they obviously don't believe what they said since Portal 2 was just announced for PC/360. This is just PR talk, if Valve really gave a s*** they would develop for PS3. Plenty of other developers can do it, so there's no excuse for Valve.kittyloaf69

It's Valve's loss, from a business standpoint they lost millions, but they are financially so secure it doesn't matter.

In the end, they can do what they want, and that's fine. Keep the PC guys happy.

+1 respect for valve.

Also HL3 is Valves Duke Nukem Forever.

Hmmm...

"Valve writer Chet Faliszek told CVG:

"We thought that the Orange Box didn't put our best foot forward with the PS3 community. We don't want to do something like that again on the PS3. We want to give PS3 owners the best possible experience."

So according to Chet, the best experience Valve can give to PS3 owners is no games? Am I the only one that finds this a bit ... odd?

[QUOTE="SonyIsh6Fotta"]

With all the great games PS3 has to offer both graphically and technically, it does make them look rather lazy for not stepping up, and i think they see that a good game can sell well on the system now so it would benefit them to take their time and try not to get so frustrated. Forget this we are busting our butt trying to make this work and it aint even going to sell well, is probably what they said.

drakecool1

exactly now they see that ps3 is a force to be recond with and are taking back their words.

Or maybe they are a slightly bigger studio and have the resources to port games over themselves and not outsource the ps3 version to EA which screwed it up.

Maybe. Just maybe.

So i guess left for dead 3 ps3 confirmed? (not that I care for l4d) Half-life 3 done by valve themselves for ps3 would be nice though. (although I will buy that game for my pc anyway as valve is a pc dev , they shouldn't even do console games to begin with.)Midnightshade29

Why do the Cows seem to think that developers are under obligation to bring their game to the PS3?

Why do the Cows seem to think that developers are under obligation to bring their game to the PS3?

longtonguecat

Valve games belong on PC.bobaban

I don't want to sound mean, but I want Episode 3 before PS3 support.

Valiant_Rebel

[QUOTE="bobaban"]Valve games belong on PC.Boomshaffted

[QUOTE="Boomshaffted"][QUOTE="bobaban"]Valve games belong on PC.SilverChimera

This is a couple of days old, but they obviously don't believe what they said since Portal 2 was just announced for PC/360. This is just PR talk, if Valve really gave a s*** they would develop for PS3. Plenty of other developers can do it, so there's no excuse for Valve.kittyloaf69

I guess this means PS3 fans are no longer going to hate Valve now?

am i the only one who thinks valve looks stupid with all these "we must get better at developing for ps3 talk", when every other developer out there is making equal multiplats and in some cases now even better on ps3. i mean these guys act like their the gods of the gaming industry, guess what valve you've had three good games imo half life 1, half life 2, and team fortress 2. thats it, all other valve games are nothing special/average games imo.

am i the only one who thinks valve looks stupid with all these "we must get better at developing for ps3 talk", when every other developer out there is making equal multiplats and in some cases now even better on ps3. i mean these guys act like their the gods of the gaming industry, guess what valve you've had three good games imo half life 1, half life 2, and team fortress 2. thats it, all other valve games are nothing special/average games imo.

bokiloki

[QUOTE="kittyloaf69"]This is a couple of days old, but they obviously don't believe what they said since Portal 2 was just announced for PC/360. This is just PR talk, if Valve really gave a s*** they would develop for PS3. Plenty of other developers can do it, so there's no excuse for Valve.jasonharris48

It's Valve's loss, from a business standpoint they lost millions, but they are financially so secure it doesn't matter.

In the end, they can do what they want, and that's fine. Keep the PC guys happy.

SolidTy

yeah but its still strange a potential 30mil userbase thats prime for their games untapped :S i just find that a little strange.Hell in this day and age i think EA could actually port it better than thye did back in the day xD.Valve makes money,and everyones happy.

Thats the way i see it..If the port handnt been so bad and rushed it would have been a really enjoyable experience imo.

ummm you do realize that valve is a very small company compared to other developers so they dont have as much to work with as other big named companies...which is why they outsourced their work for the ps3, because they dont know how to develope for it. and the end result is you get a subpar port of what could have been. they arent making themselves out to be "Gods of the gaming industry", theyre trying to get it rightslvrraven9

I don't know why people insist on trying to make fly the, "Valve is a small game dev. company", bit.

Valve is not small, they have, according to Chet Faliszek, 250 employees.

You wanna know what "small" is? Small is BRINK'S game developer, SPLASH DAMAGE. They have approx 60 developers, and guess what? Their game will be on 3 platforms (PC, PS3 and XBOX 360).

I was going to throw GEARBOX in the mix, but they aren't as small as they used to be..they have approx 170 employees. That's still significanly less than 250, and they too have no problem developing for all three platforms. In fact, remember when they, Randy Pitchford, called them out on their "fanboy'im"?

Gearbox: Valve "foolish" to snub PS3

Valve can make a PS3 game whenever they want...not that they have to, I just don't like hearing that tired excuse. It's clear Valve doesn't want to make games for the PS3 and that's fine, but from now on, they should just shut up about the PS3.

[QUOTE="slvrraven9"] ummm you do realize that valve is a very small company compared to other developers so they dont have as much to work with as other big named companies...which is why they outsourced their work for the ps3, because they dont know how to develope for it. and the end result is you get a subpar port of what could have been. they arent making themselves out to be "Gods of the gaming industry", theyre trying to get it rightPersistantthug

I don't know why people insist on trying to make fly the, "Valve is a small game dev. company", bit.

Valve is not small, they have, according to Chet Faliszek, 250 employees.

You wanna know what "small" is? Small is BRINK'S game developer, SPLASH DAMAGE. They have approx 60 developers, and guess what? Their game will be on 3 platforms (PC, PS3 and XBOX 360).

I was going to throw GEARBOX in the mix, but they aren't as small as they used to be..they have approx 170 employees. That's still significanly less than 250, and they too have no problem developing for all three platforms. In fact, remember when they, Randy Pitchford, called them out on their "fanboy'im"?

Gearbox: Valve "foolish" to snub PS3

Valve can make a PS3 game whenever they want...not that they have to, I just don't like hearing that tired excuse. It's clear Valve doesn't want to make games for the PS3 and that's fine, but from now on, they should just shut up about the PS3.

nowhere did i say valve is the smallest gaming company but they are a relatively small developer with its whopping 250 employees. im glad you think thats such a generous amount when gearbox has 170 and SD having 60 (which by chance has the technical backing of Bethesda software). theyre nowhere in the area on having over 7000 like EA or vivendi with its close to 3500. Valve has been developeing PC games for years and the PS3 has a totally different design while the 360 has relative hardware. why is that so hard to understand? is it really hard to believe that a company thats been developing on PCs for over 15 years MIGHT have some issues with developing on the PS3? Gearbox has had significant relationships with the other gaming companies through this gen and last....you dont see such credentials with Valve, with that said. do you actually WANT half assed ports from the pc to the PS3? or do you want a quality game that you can actually play without having to vomit every 5 minutes??

they are just saying this crap to win back favour for their next ps3 venture..daveg1

Who they are winning back? If they made a game, and that game was good for the PS3.. People will buy it.. Regardless of what people think they said, and if people take it personally and boycott.. Well they are little kids that some how think the product they own some how represents them.

Well hopefully after this comment from Valve we get more game and better quality from it also.

cool for ps3 owners. i like valve's products, personally.

"We messed up" isn't a quote from Valve, it's an paraphrasing of what they said. There wasn't anything keeping them from writing "We didn't put out best foot forward" in the article title, except for the fact that their version would get more hits.

I freaking hate internet video game "journalism".

nowhere did i say valve is the smallest gaming company but they are a relatively small developer with its whopping 250 employees. im glad you think thats such a generous amount when gearbox has 170 and SD having 60 (which by chance has the technical backing of Bethesda software). theyre nowhere in the area on having over 7000 like EA or vivendi with its close to 3500. Valve has been developeing PC games for years and the PS3 has a totally different design while the 360 has relative hardware. why is that so hard to understand? is it really hard to believe that a company thats been developing on PCs for over 15 years MIGHT have some issues with developing on the PS3? Gearbox has had significant relationships with the other gaming companies through this gen and last....you dont see such credentials with Valve, with that said. do you actually WANT half assed ports from the pc to the PS3? or do you want a quality game that you can actually play without having to vomit every 5 minutes??

slvrraven9

nowhere did i say valve is the smallest gaming company but they are a relatively small developer with its whopping 250 employees. im glad you think thats such a generous amount when gearbox has 170 and SD having 60 (which by chance has the technical backing of Bethesda software). theyre nowhere in the area on having over 7000 like EA or vivendi with its close to 3500. Valve has been developeing PC games for years and the PS3 has a totally different design while the 360 has relative hardware. why is that so hard to understand? is it really hard to believe that a company thats been developing on PCs for over 15 years MIGHT have some issues with developing on the PS3? Gearbox has had significant relationships with the other gaming companies through this gen and last....you dont see such credentials with Valve, with that said. do you actually WANT half assed ports from the pc to the PS3? or do you want a quality game that you can actually play without having to vomit every 5 minutes??

slvrraven9

250 emloyees for an independent developer is not small. Obviously its not 5000 or 7000, but since when does it take thousands or hundreds of people to port games? For an independent game developer, again, Valve is nowhere near small. In actuality, 250 employees, and growing might I add, is actually fairly large, and they certainly aren't short of financial resources.....they are swimming in money.

Second, Valve has had other developers port every Half Life game to the Playstation brands, and most of the expansion games as well. If it was really a question of "manpower resources", Valve could obviously do this.

Third, I'm wondering, did you actually play The Orange Box PS3 version? I own it. The game is AAA quality. I bought it a year ago when I purchased my PS3. Some people spoke negatively about the game, but it plays fine. I'm assuming patch-fixes were put in long ago.

At anyrate, like I said, you don't need to be EA's size to port games. Valve is more than large enough, and furthermore, EA wants to port all of their games to every console. So in other words, slvrraven9, not only is Valve not small and has has plenty of employess (more than most), not only does Valve have spitloads of money.....but Valve has resource backing themselves, from EA. lol Do you now see the fallacy in your point now, slvrraven9?

There's actually another reason that's not related to porting/developing capabilities or abilities.

While I can't prove it, I'm 90 percent sure that Valve is paid and/or incentivised by Microsoft....at least for the L4D games.