vgchartz is now going to be the # 1 source for the AP media

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#1 ProjectNatalFan
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I am highly upset about the nPD news as it was going to be such a great thursday seeing the gains the MS made with Halo Reach. The result is one that is going to upset alot of people, VGchartz is now going to be the source to go by, expect it to be quoted by the media from now on. I say to NPD way to chicken out, probably from pressure from SONY since the numbers were always a letdown for them, so since we have a ton of conspircy theorist going around in regards to Kinect demand, thats my theory.... Otherwise what do you guys think about this news today?

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#2 Filthybastrd
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VG won't be our new nr1 source. We just won't have one.

I for one am glad that we won't have anymore threads where half of sw thinks North America is the entire world.

How much is MS paying you btw?

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#3 Ravensmash
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What happened with NPD? And we're not relying on VGChartz, I might as well make up sales for everyone...
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I'm really intrigued by the way your brain works.

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#5 mystervj
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Oh yes, imagined numbers, you can either celebrate MS's victory in fictional land, or you can just wait for official report for actual WW numbers.
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#6 mystervj
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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]What happened with NPD? And we're not relying on VGChartz, I might as well make up sales for everyone...

NPD restructured their report apparently, you can read it on GS but basically they won't be releasing hardware #s
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#7 Ravensmash
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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]What happened with NPD? And we're not relying on VGChartz, I might as well make up sales for everyone...mystervj
NPD restructured their report apparently, you can read it on GS but basically they won't be releasing hardware #s

Well there goes the monthly fun :P
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#8 Keiji993
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Oh boy, they took away projectnatals favorite game, NPD sales. I remember someone quoted him saying vgchartz as a legit and accurate source for sales.
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#9 MonsieurX
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No numbers>bad numbers

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I'm really intrigued by the way your brain works.

PSdual_wielder

It's not really that hard to understand him so long as you keep these three rules in mind:

1. Sony is the devil incarnate.

2. MS is the center of the universe. They are God's gift to man and can do no wrong.

3. Should something somehow tarnish #2, then it was all a conspiracy set up by Sony to bring down MS.

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#12 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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VGchartz as the official numbers source? Not in this world. Not in any alternate reality. Never. Going. To happen.

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#13 AznKSor
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[QUOTE="PSdual_wielder"]

I'm really intrigued by the way your brain works.

OneLazyAsian

It's not really that hard to understand him so long as you keep these three rules in mind:

1. Sony is the devil incarnate.

2. MS is the center of the universe. They are God's gift to man and can do no wrong.

3. Should something somehow tarnish #2, then it was all a conspiracy set up by Sony to bring down MS.

But wait theres more.

4.Kinect is the greatest "revolution in the world"

5.If you don't like Microsoft then you are the devil

Also, a thread saying Vgchartz being the #1 source!?!? :lol:

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#14 AznKSor
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VGchartz as the official numbers source? Not in this world. Not in any alternate reality. Never. Going. To happen.

AdobeArtist

Off-Topic:Have you mastered Photoshop or Gimp? Im a Concept Artist (in the works) but i suck at photoshopping my drawings. any tips :O

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#15 OneLazyAsian
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[QUOTE="OneLazyAsian"]

[QUOTE="PSdual_wielder"]

I'm really intrigued by the way your brain works.

AznKSor

It's not really that hard to understand him so long as you keep these three rules in mind:

1. Sony is the devil incarnate.

2. MS is the center of the universe. They are God's gift to man and can do no wrong.

3. Should something somehow tarnish #2, then it was all a conspiracy set up by Sony to bring down MS.

But wait theres more.

4.Kinect is the greatest "revolution in the world"

5.If you don't like Microsoft then you are the devil

Also, a thread saying Vgchartz being the #1 source!?!? :lol:

I believe those would be implied by #2 and #3.

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#16 AznKSor
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[QUOTE="AznKSor"]

[QUOTE="OneLazyAsian"]

It's not really that hard to understand him so long as you keep these three rules in mind:

1. Sony is the devil incarnate.

2. MS is the center of the universe. They are God's gift to man and can do no wrong.

3. Should something somehow tarnish #2, then it was all a conspiracy set up by Sony to bring down MS.

OneLazyAsian

But wait theres more.

4.Kinect is the greatest "revolution in the world"

5.If you don't like Microsoft then you are the devil

Also, a thread saying Vgchartz being the #1 source!?!? :lol:

I believe those would be implied by #2 and #3.

Oh ok nvm :P

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#17 ProjectNatalFan
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VG won't be our new nr1 source. We just won't have one.

I for one am glad that we won't have anymore threads where half of sw thinks North America is the entire world.

How much is MS paying you btw?

Filthybastrd

Microsoft is paying me by innovation. I love the intergration

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#18 AznKSor
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[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

VG won't be our new nr1 source. We just won't have one.

I for one am glad that we won't have anymore threads where half of sw thinks North America is the entire world.

How much is MS paying you btw?

ProjectNatalFan

Microsoft is paying me by innovation. I love the intergration

This would be good for a sig!

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No it won't, this makes VGchartz even worse because they don't have any numbers to change their guesses to. All we have is media create and company reports.
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#21 ProjectNatalFan
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No it won't, this makes VGchartz even worse because they don't have any numbers to change their guesses to. All we have is media create and company reports.Chutebox

i think they still will have accurate numbers after the fact they are tracking alot and getting better at it as far as im concerned. Ill take Vgchartz number over anything now since they dedicate the most time with it. They always tried to be fair as well, not their fault that NPD dropped this bomb and nobody can recover from it. Sony must of paid alot of money to NPD charts, wow makes me mad.

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#22 Filthybastrd
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[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

VG won't be our new nr1 source. We just won't have one.

I for one am glad that we won't have anymore threads where half of sw thinks North America is the entire world.

How much is MS paying you btw?

ProjectNatalFan

Microsoft is paying me by innovation. I love the intergration

You do realize that voice control and gestures are less convenient that just navigating with a button yes?

Edit: Just try it.. Press a button on your controller. Then wave a hand in front of you. Then say "XBOX SLIDE" out loud.

IDK about you but if my controller is within reach, I'm just gonna use that.

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#23 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="PSdual_wielder"]

I'm really intrigued by the way your brain works.

OneLazyAsian

It's not really that hard to understand him so long as you keep these three rules in mind:

1. Sony is the devil incarnate.

2. MS is the center of the universe. They are God's gift to man and can do no wrong.

3. Should something somehow tarnish #2, then it was all a conspiracy set up by Sony to bring down MS.

which can be applied to most cows but in the opposite.
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#25 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]No it won't, this makes VGchartz even worse because they don't have any numbers to change their guesses to. All we have is media create and company reports.ProjectNatalFan

i think they still will have accurate numbers after the fact they are tracking alot and getting better at it as far as im concerned. Ill take Vgchartz number over anything now since they dedicate the most time with it. They always tried to be fair as well, not their fault that NPD dropped this bomb and nobody can recover from it. Sony must of paid alot of money to NPD charts, wow makes me mad.

You're never going to understand this for a few reasons I won't get into but they've never been accurate on their own. You can take VG over anything you want, we don't care. Sony pad NPD, lol.
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]No it won't, this makes VGchartz even worse because they don't have any numbers to change their guesses to. All we have is media create and company reports.ProjectNatalFan

i think they still will have accurate numbers after the fact they are tracking alot and getting better at it as far as im concerned. Ill take Vgchartz number over anything now since they dedicate the most time with it. They always tried to be fair as well, not their fault that NPD dropped this bomb and nobody can recover from it. Sony must of paid alot of money to NPD charts, wow makes me mad.

In what way are they trying to be accurate. They still have the worldwide PS3 total at 100k less than Sony reported nearly 3 months ago. :? And that's their "guess" as to the current total. They are in no way related to the facts, nor interested in appending their numbers with more accurate totals when they have the chance.

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#27 OneLazyAsian
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[QUOTE="OneLazyAsian"]

[QUOTE="PSdual_wielder"]

I'm really intrigued by the way your brain works.

WilliamRLBaker

It's not really that hard to understand him so long as you keep these three rules in mind:

1. Sony is the devil incarnate.

2. MS is the center of the universe. They are God's gift to man and can do no wrong.

3. Should something somehow tarnish #2, then it was all a conspiracy set up by Sony to bring down MS.

which can be applied to most cows but in the opposite.

It's the sole logic behind all fanboys, so I dunno what you're getting at?

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#28 hakanakumono
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Weren't NPD reports already somewhat questionable?

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#29 HelloMoto56
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here's an idea:

why don't we put an end all this sales BS altogether. it's rather irrelevant to the actual gamer. i don't know about you, but i sure as hell didn't notice when 100,000+ new PS3s were purchased.

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#30 batman_is_aweso
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Correction:

VGchartz will still be laughed at

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#31 XboximusPrime
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If you already purchased your box, why do you care if other people do? I coudl care less if PS3 or 360 sell so many units a month so long as I keep getting good stuff from them.

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#32 OneLazyAsian
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If you already purchased your box, why do you care if other people do? I coudl care less if PS3 or 360 sell so many units a month so long as I keep getting good stuff from them.

XboximusPrime

It makes me feel better to know that other people bought the same thing I did and that it won't turn into a piece of junk. I gotta be mainsteam. You know, hip! I also got an Apple iTouch and drive the fuel efficient Pirius.

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#33 XboximusPrime
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[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

If you already purchased your box, why do you care if other people do? I coudl care less if PS3 or 360 sell so many units a month so long as I keep getting good stuff from them.

OneLazyAsian

It makes me feel better to know that other people bought the same thing I did and that it won't turn into a piece of junk. I gotta be mainsteam. You know, hip! I also got an Apple iTouch and drive the fuel efficient Pirius.

lol. But seriously, I guess where that argument could kinda make sense. the mainstream product is the one that gets supported more with games. And if your console isnt selling well, then Devs might pull out. But really, none of these consoles are at that point right now.

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#34 Kahuna_1
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Following Vgchartz is the equivalent of just randomly guessing the numbers yourself. All the sales information meant nothing to consumers anyway. That is internal information.

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#35 Pug-Nasty
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Doesn't make VG chartz any more reliable. I'm kinda glad at the "loss" of NPD sales analysis. It was too limited to give an accurate picture, didn't even include all retailers for the US, and was used too much to argue success. I hate that people seem to think that if a game isn't in the top 10 it isn't successful, like the difference between 10 and 11 is so huge.

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I'll trust a fortune teller before I trust VG chartz.
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Nex gen wars should make a come back.

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#40 applefan1991  Moderator
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Actually the only "source" now should be the company themselves. So it may be E3 and Christmas next year that we find out company console sales
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#41 Shewgenja
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I lol @ Lems who were expecting Reach to be SalesChrist. Call of Duty outsells Halo games. Welcome to 2010.

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#43 Recarnator
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I'm 99% sure some insiders will leak the NPD numbers. It will probably not be on the same day. Butt nonetheless somebody will leak them.

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#44 applefan1991  Moderator
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I'm 99% sure some insiders will leak the NPD numbers. It will probably not be on the same day. Butt nonetheless somebody will leak them.

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If NPD still collects them. Im not sure if they will, I mean whats the point of collecting them if they are going to share them with the industry?