VR now directly comparable to Jesus

Absolutely incredible, like Project Milo if Peter Molyneux was Koreon and talking to a corpse, in many ways this is better, mainly because the child doesn't have to interact with Peter Molyneux.

VR software reunites a grieving mother with the young daughter she lost 4 years ago

"I think I've had the dream I've always wanted."

A South Korean TV show has documented how virtual reality software has enabled a grieving mother to communicate again with her young daughter, Nayeon, who died in 2016.

As reported by Aju Business Daily (thanks, PC Gamer), the documentary "I Met You" tells the story of Jang Ji-sung and her daughter Nayeon, who died from an incurable disease at just seven years old. First aired on 6th February, the show followed the development of the VR production for eight months as the team "used VR technology to implement Nayeon's face, body, and voice".

As you might well imagine, even though the clip below is just a 10-minute segment from the full documentary, it's an incredibly difficult thing to watch, especially when Jang Ji-sung is reunited with Nayeon on the anniversary of the girl's birthday. Though deeply upset, however, the mother said the experience was "the dream [she's] always wanted".

"Maybe it's a real paradise," Jang Ji-sung said to ABD. "I met Nayeon, who called me with a smile, for a very short time, but it's a very happy time. I think I've had the dream I've always wanted."

"I hope many people will remember Nayeon after watching the show," she wrote in her blog, which has since been closed.

As PCG asserts, reanimating deceased people in VR likely isn't all that surprising to you, but it'll be curious to see if/how such practices become an everyday, commercial business practice - and exactly how some services might capitalise on such devastating grief.

Ready Player One is going to be a real thing, isn't it?

Ready Player One in a nutshell.

Be glad Bethesda didn't develop this, last thing poor woman needs is her daughters head spinning.

@uninspiredcup: Lol, noice

This is gross, this is the work of satan not jesus.

Playing with VR versions of dead relatives and you know there will be some marrying thier VR girlfriends.

This isnt even gaming, this is the type of shit that ruins peoples lives and disconnects them from reality.

Ignorance is Bliss right? Oh well what do I know, I'm just a Sinner after all🤷‍♂️

@davillain-: me too but I have some standards

Hehe. I've long believed that the cyberpunk genre is prescient - at least to some degree.

Better get used to stuff like this, mate. Technology change... ...but human nature don't.

@madrocketeer: you know what, your right, if people do get trapped in thier fake little bubble worlds and mess up thier lives serves them right,

Darwin called it, survival of the fittest. The rest can suffer and die

That’s just creepy, weird, and unnatural. Not really a topic about gaming either.

This is one of those things where I personally feel like, "Just because you can... doesn't mean you should". I know different people have ways of working through things, but just imagine a time when death matters less because people can make GG-rendered versions of their loved ones to talk to whenever. This feels... so wrong.

It directly pertains to gaming, giving glimpses into how far VR can go.

Indeed, flatscreen gaming (along with movies) having already started delving into dabbling with digital recreations deceased characters.

This of course, is something Star Trek correctly predicated.

I disagree. It’s more of a topic about ethics of VR, not really VR gaming.

Feels to me that this creates more problems for the mother since she is not learning to move on. Instead she is holding on to someone who has past longer than is healthy.

VR is the future, Microsoft needs to catchup badly.

This is gonna be huge there gonna miss the boat again just like smartphones and amazon echo. MICROSOFT NEEDS TO GET INTO VR before its too late this company is behind just non-stop they aren't at the forefront anymore.

Why would the ethics here do not apply to gaming?

Flatscreen gaming is already selling Bruce Lee's digitally reanimated corpse as DLC, VR can take this one step further.

Project Milo and mixed reality (shown at E3) was already something they were gunning towards, fruitlessly, back then.

Here we are now.

Ethics do apply to gaming. Putting someone who has passed in a game is a topic of game discussion. This here is just a woman communicating with her deceased daughter which is not a game.

Good, then we agree.

@uninspiredcup: No we don’t agree.

Dead Grandpa: The Video Game 👴

Name in vain.

No thanks. This will do more harm than good.

Just when you think VR can't sink any lower, cup finds a way lol.

One can only hope.

Swear to god, you get me a haptic suit like he had towards the end....it's goodbye world, I Don't need you.

I watched that video yesterday it's heartbreaking but yet amazing VR is more then just gaming that's for damn sure. I really hope in the far future I can transfer my consciousness into a computer like that Black Mirror episode because anything would be possible all your crazy fantasies would feel as real as this life.

Take me back to the 80's.

I'm not sure what to say. I think some people would benefit from something like that, but that is not something i'd want. The pain would be unbearable for me.

It might feel good, but what are the psychological implications?

How is it comparable? VR is real, Jesus ain't

:P

It might provide closure to people who are unable to gain it from traditional means. If this is a service provided by trained psychologists and doctors, that'd be one thing; I'd be a bit more hesitant, however, if some funeral home started making VR sims of your deceased loved ones so you can pretend they're not actually dead.

I agree it seems sort of iffy to me, but it's something that might help some, might hurt others, but ultimately the harm isn't that bad and the help is incredible. Maybe.

I definitely agree that this may be closure for some people. I lost my Mum last year, and I can unequivocally say that this wouldn't be closure for me. In my eyes, it's merely a facsimile of a person, but I can certainly understand if this is a form of therapy for people.

This thread is far too deep for SW.

My understanding of closure is acceptance of reality which allows people to move on. This ventures into the realm of living in denial. I maybe wrong.

Right, and I suppose that is one side of the coin. Someone could get this experience and replay it over and over and over again, never really accepting the loss.

The other side of the coin is that, under controlled circumstances, an experience like this would provide someone the chance to say goodbye one last time, and be done with it.

I think that if this is ever considered medicine, it'd have to be done on a per person basis, not as a cure all.

That seems reasonable.

Just as dumb and arrogant a statement as what the Beatles said in the 1960s.

I was expecting FilthyFrank to pop in with his "Its time to STOP". I genuinely thought this was a meme video. Very disappointing.

I’m kind of two minds on this.

My first feeling is against this. Her daughter is dead, four years on now, and whatever is in VR is not her. This seems to me that it would impede a normal, healthy, and necessary grieving process. OTOH, those in grief have videos, pictures, and articles of clothing and such that they hold onto after one’s passing where the same could be said. It’s just the immersive nature of the medium along with being able to tailor it to give the impression of not only a memory, such as pictures and videos grant, but of an actual interactive seemingly live agent interacting with the one who’s grieving is moving back into a period before that pain and growth had been endured and processed.

Maybe I’d be alright with it if VR could recreate scenarios from the person’s life from pictures and videos that the loved one could walk around and watch, like a 3D tour of a memory, but to make the deceased actively acknowledge the grieving? Hell to the no with that shit. The biggest issue is that recreating a lost loved one runs the risk of an inaccurate portrayal of the deceased, with all the nuance and complexity of an individual, that could be immensely harmful to the loved one experiencing it. How can you predict that? Why would anyone even humor messing with it?

I think it’s simply a bad idea and dangerous ground to tread. It’s tearing open wounds. When someone’s gone, there needs to remain a hard, well-defined and (most importantly) indifferent separation for the health and sanity of those still here IMO.

Is this even a game? I don't know, I just assumed it because its on SW.

@ProtossRushX: Trust you to try and turn this into an xbox hate thread...

I wouldn't compare VR to something i don't believe, but i do compare it to the transition from 2d pixels to 3d polygons. It's that game changing, in my opinion.

As for the video, while it's touching, i don't believe it's how it should be used. It should be used for joy and entertainment, not to depress people who lost their loved ones. This is just another stupid reality show looking for audiences.

"Please enter your Bethesda account info to begin viewing loved ones."