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i was looking trough a few bench marks when i came across this, enjoy the reading and iam sorry for all those people who are going to be disapointed, i know theres going to be a lot of flaming but anyway... discuss

enjoy

 


G5 vs. PS3 and this guy added some Xeon benchmarks they also had. bZip and JPEG seemed like the most common and useful of the benchmarks so here they are. Check out their site for the rest.
bzip2 Compress (multi-threaded scalar)
PlayStation 3 - 124.1
Power Mac G5 - 168.4
Xeon 5160 - 1194.4

bzip2 Decompress (multi-threaded scalar)
PlayStation 3 - 99.5
Power Mac G5 - 133.1
Xeon 5160 - 1353.3

JPEG Compress (multi-threaded scalar)
PlayStation 3 - 94.8
Power Mac G5 - 103.0
Xeon 5160 - 877.6

JPEG Decompress (multi-threaded scalar)
PlayStation 3 - 72.9
Power Mac G5 - 119.2
Xeon 5160 - 788.9

So basically in performance the PS3 processor usually isn't going to be as good as a THREE AND A HALF YEAR OLD budget G5 processor. The PS3 is probably about equal to a G4 processor at most general tasks. Kind of pathetic after all the hype Sony made about it before it came out.
It would get totally crushed by a Quad core processor."

source1 www.geekpatrol.ca/2006/11/playstation-3-performance/

source2 forumz.tomshardware.com/hardware/kenstfield-Cell-ftopict235897.html source

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Tee. Arr. Oh. Ell. Ell.

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Tee. Arr. Oh. Ell. Ell.

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lol iam just tired of all this thecell omg pawnage stuff.. so i found this by accident and decided to troll a bit, where are all those cows anyway. 

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Hmm, another fanboy comparing a Console CPU to a PC CPU. When will they learn?
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Hmm, another fanboy comparing a Console CPU to a PC CPU. When will they learn?Spartan8907

lol you are really going to turn this around? iam not the one comparing cpu's ps3 fanboys are and i posted this to show them that the cell is not all that sony claims to be, nice try tho 

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[QUOTE="Spartan8907"]Hmm, another fanboy comparing a Console CPU to a PC CPU. When will they learn?Mizarus

lol you are really going to turn this around? iam not the one comparing cpu's ps3 fanboys are and i posted this to show them that the cell is not all that sony claims to be, nice try tho 

And that gives you the title of being Mr. Right? Sad. What are you trying to prove again?

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[QUOTE="Mizarus"]

[QUOTE="Spartan8907"]Hmm, another fanboy comparing a Console CPU to a PC CPU. When will they learn?hotdaisy18

lol you are really going to turn this around? iam not the one comparing cpu's ps3 fanboys are and i posted this to show them that the cell is not all that sony claims to be, nice try tho

And that gives you the title of being Mr. Right? Sad. What are you trying to prove again?

iam not sayng iam mr.right, and i did say discuss, dont come here unless you have a solid argument beside tryng to bash me, if you think iam wrong prove me wrong if you cant... again iam just implyng dont belive Sony overhyping thecell and thats just something i gather up and decided to post here because i tought somone would accuatly have something to say about it, how wrong was i.. 

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[QUOTE="hotdaisy18"][QUOTE="Mizarus"]

[QUOTE="Spartan8907"]Hmm, another fanboy comparing a Console CPU to a PC CPU. When will they learn?Mizarus

lol you are really going to turn this around? iam not the one comparing cpu's ps3 fanboys are and i posted this to show them that the cell is not all that sony claims to be, nice try tho

And that gives you the title of being Mr. Right? Sad. What are you trying to prove again?

iam not sayng iam mr.right, and i did say discuss, dont come here unless you have a solid argument beside tryng to bash me, if you think iam wrong prove me wrong if you cant... again iam just implyng dont belive Sony overhyping thecell and thats just something i gather up and decided to post here because i tought somone would accuatly have something to say about it, how wrong was i.. 

Why don't you pay attention to what developers say about the Cell. You might actually learn something.

 

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[QUOTE="Spartan8907"]Hmm, another fanboy comparing a Console CPU to a PC CPU. When will they learn?Mizarus

lol you are really going to turn this around? iam not the one comparing cpu's ps3 fanboys are and i posted this to show them that the cell is not all that sony claims to be, nice try tho

Lets see a Cell built to PC standards and then lets talk. Console CPUs are basically downgraded and specialized for gaming. Meaning, they are no where near as powerful as PC CPU of today, or yesterday. Heck, both the Cell and whatever they call the 360's, xenos or xenon, whatever, have about the power of something near a Pentium D. This comparison of your is foolish and arrogant. Nice try though.
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[QUOTE="Mizarus"][QUOTE="hotdaisy18"][QUOTE="Mizarus"]

[QUOTE="Spartan8907"]Hmm, another fanboy comparing a Console CPU to a PC CPU. When will they learn?hotdaisy18

lol you are really going to turn this around? iam not the one comparing cpu's ps3 fanboys are and i posted this to show them that the cell is not all that sony claims to be, nice try tho

And that gives you the title of being Mr. Right? Sad. What are you trying to prove again?

iam not sayng iam mr.right, and i did say discuss, dont come here unless you have a solid argument beside tryng to bash me, if you think iam wrong prove me wrong if you cant... again iam just implyng dont belive Sony overhyping thecell and thats just something i gather up and decided to post here because i tought somone would accuatly have something to say about it, how wrong was i..

Why don't you pay attention to what developers say about the Cell. You might actually learn something.

 

... do you accuatly have any idea what i just posted? i dont think you do... 

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[QUOTE="hotdaisy18"][QUOTE="Mizarus"][QUOTE="hotdaisy18"][QUOTE="Mizarus"]

[QUOTE="Spartan8907"]Hmm, another fanboy comparing a Console CPU to a PC CPU. When will they learn?Mizarus

lol you are really going to turn this around? iam not the one comparing cpu's ps3 fanboys are and i posted this to show them that the cell is not all that sony claims to be, nice try tho

And that gives you the title of being Mr. Right? Sad. What are you trying to prove again?

iam not sayng iam mr.right, and i did say discuss, dont come here unless you have a solid argument beside tryng to bash me, if you think iam wrong prove me wrong if you cant... again iam just implyng dont belive Sony overhyping thecell and thats just something i gather up and decided to post here because i tought somone would accuatly have something to say about it, how wrong was i..

Why don't you pay attention to what developers say about the Cell. You might actually learn something.

 

... do you accuatly have any idea what i just posted? i dont think you do... 

Which just proves my point. No. One. Cares. I win!

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[QUOTE="Mizarus"]

[QUOTE="Spartan8907"]Hmm, another fanboy comparing a Console CPU to a PC CPU. When will they learn?Spartan8907

lol you are really going to turn this around? iam not the one comparing cpu's ps3 fanboys are and i posted this to show them that the cell is not all that sony claims to be, nice try tho

Lets see a Cell built to PC standards and then lets talk. Console CPUs are basically downgraded and specialized for gaming. Meaning, they are no where near as powerful as PC CPU of today, or yesterday. Heck, both the Cell and whatever they call the 360's, xenos or xenon, whatever, have about the power of something near a Pentium D. This comparison of your is foolish and arrogant. Nice try though.

you might know that, but theres a lot of people who dosent and try to hype ps3 processor above all living things this thread is for them not you. 

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Well, why dont you do that same thing, except with a 360 proccesor, because assumingly you are a 360 fan...
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Well, why dont you do that same thing, except with a 360 proccesor, because assumingly you are a 360 fan...BEAN_LARD_MULCH
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no acuattly id never own a microsoft system, i have a ps2/64/snes and i will probly buy a ps3 once more games come out, iam not sayng the ps3 sucks, but the cell its not all that it claims to be, it may seem iam bashing it but i wanted to get people atention and thats the best way around here 

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data has to be optimized for cell which it is when games are made for it, you cant just run the same crap that you ran through a pc cpu through cell un optimized. so in other words this data means jack ****
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[QUOTE="Mizarus"][QUOTE="hotdaisy18"][QUOTE="Mizarus"][QUOTE="hotdaisy18"][QUOTE="Mizarus"]

[QUOTE="Spartan8907"]Hmm, another fanboy comparing a Console CPU to a PC CPU. When will they learn?hotdaisy18

lol you are really going to turn this around? iam not the one comparing cpu's ps3 fanboys are and i posted this to show them that the cell is not all that sony claims to be, nice try tho

And that gives you the title of being Mr. Right? Sad. What are you trying to prove again?

iam not sayng iam mr.right, and i did say discuss, dont come here unless you have a solid argument beside tryng to bash me, if you think iam wrong prove me wrong if you cant... again iam just implyng dont belive Sony overhyping thecell and thats just something i gather up and decided to post here because i tought somone would accuatly have something to say about it, how wrong was i..

Why don't you pay attention to what developers say about the Cell. You might actually learn something.

 

... do you accuatly have any idea what i just posted? i dont think you do...

Which just proves my point. No. One. Cares. I win!

 

Who cares what exclusive developers have to say about the Cell, they want to sell their games. Whats a powerful processor without an equally powerful GPU?

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arg i edited the wrong post u.u good thing you already quoted me

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data has to be optimized for cell which it is when games are made for it, you cant just run the same crap that you ran through a pc cpu through cell un optimized. so in other words this data means jack ****Chris-Hansen
i cant said any better. seriously , ppl comparing cpu to another cpu without know the real facts behind them. its all comin down to optimizition. but who cares which console are better, as long good games comin out for its and they selling well like the Wii.

 

p.s look back at last generation console war. ps2 is the weakest console and they still pwn xbox and gamecube all the way.

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[QUOTE="Mizarus"]

[QUOTE="Spartan8907"]Hmm, another fanboy comparing a Console CPU to a PC CPU. When will they learn?Spartan8907

lol you are really going to turn this around? iam not the one comparing cpu's ps3 fanboys are and i posted this to show them that the cell is not all that sony claims to be, nice try tho

Lets see a Cell built to PC standards and then lets talk. Console CPUs are basically downgraded and specialized for gaming. Meaning, they are no where near as powerful as PC CPU of today, or yesterday. Heck, both the Cell and whatever they call the 360's, xenos or xenon, whatever, have about the power of something near a Pentium D. This comparison of your is foolish and arrogant. Nice try though.

Sony claimed that the PS3 is a super computer.  So this thread is relevant in showing that the PS3's Cell can't even keep up with a 3+ year old CPU.

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[QUOTE="Spartan8907"][QUOTE="Mizarus"]

[QUOTE="Spartan8907"]Hmm, another fanboy comparing a Console CPU to a PC CPU. When will they learn?Ichiroisawsome

lol you are really going to turn this around? iam not the one comparing cpu's ps3 fanboys are and i posted this to show them that the cell is not all that sony claims to be, nice try tho

Lets see a Cell built to PC standards and then lets talk. Console CPUs are basically downgraded and specialized for gaming. Meaning, they are no where near as powerful as PC CPU of today, or yesterday. Heck, both the Cell and whatever they call the 360's, xenos or xenon, whatever, have about the power of something near a Pentium D. This comparison of your is foolish and arrogant. Nice try though.

Sony claimed that the PS3 is a super computer. So this thread is relevant in showing that the PS3's Cell can't even keep up with a 3+ year old CPU.

yes it dosent matter if it isnt opmized, sony said it was a supercomputer that pc users woudnt need their pc's anymore, but thats not truth and that benchmark shows that the ps3 cant keep up with the every day pc use and basing this topic on Sony's hype on the cell remember that 

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[QUOTE="Spartan8907"][QUOTE="Mizarus"]

[QUOTE="Spartan8907"]Hmm, another fanboy comparing a Console CPU to a PC CPU. When will they learn?Ichiroisawsome

lol you are really going to turn this around? iam not the one comparing cpu's ps3 fanboys are and i posted this to show them that the cell is not all that sony claims to be, nice try tho

Lets see a Cell built to PC standards and then lets talk. Console CPUs are basically downgraded and specialized for gaming. Meaning, they are no where near as powerful as PC CPU of today, or yesterday. Heck, both the Cell and whatever they call the 360's, xenos or xenon, whatever, have about the power of something near a Pentium D. This comparison of your is foolish and arrogant. Nice try though.

Sony claimed that the PS3 is a super computer. So this thread is relevant in showing that the PS3's Cell can't even keep up with a 3+ year old CPU.

thats what every company do is hype. its part of their marketing. the cell is a powerful processor but sony did go overboard by saiding cell is better than many other cpu.
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[QUOTE="Chris-Hansen"]data has to be optimized for cell which it is when games are made for it, you cant just run the same crap that you ran through a pc cpu through cell un optimized. so in other words this data means jack ****Mizarus

yes it show that the cell has problems working with generic process which may hinder the ps3 overall perfomance, the allout optmization of the cell can acuattly be a problem for the ps3, finnaly somone who knows what hes talking about. 

thats why you run generic stuff through the core and the physics and a lot of other stuff through SPEs, EDGE tools make it a lot easier for devs to optimize and take advantage of the CELL and games being made now use the tools. the first games using the tools will come out this fall, ever since the tools were handed out devs have been raving about how many problems they solved.

most 1st and 2nd party devs got the tools early and it shows, games like drake's and ratchet & clank look amazing and are not even halfway finished yet and they havent been working on R&C that long because they were working on resistance.
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[QUOTE="Spartan8907"][QUOTE="Mizarus"]

[QUOTE="Spartan8907"]Hmm, another fanboy comparing a Console CPU to a PC CPU. When will they learn?Mizarus

lol you are really going to turn this around? iam not the one comparing cpu's ps3 fanboys are and i posted this to show them that the cell is not all that sony claims to be, nice try tho

Lets see a Cell built to PC standards and then lets talk. Console CPUs are basically downgraded and specialized for gaming. Meaning, they are no where near as powerful as PC CPU of today, or yesterday. Heck, both the Cell and whatever they call the 360's, xenos or xenon, whatever, have about the power of something near a Pentium D. This comparison of your is foolish and arrogant. Nice try though.

you might know that, but theres a lot of people who dosent and try to hype ps3 processor above all living things this thread is for them not you.

Yes, and I hate all of them. But this thread isnt helping. Making something like this will only fuel their fanboyism.

Oh, and what bean said: I would like to see some 360 benchmarks. It wouldnt silence any fanboys, thats for sure, but at least the truth would be known.

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[QUOTE="Ichiroisawsome"][QUOTE="Spartan8907"][QUOTE="Mizarus"]

[QUOTE="Spartan8907"]Hmm, another fanboy comparing a Console CPU to a PC CPU. When will they learn?c02z

lol you are really going to turn this around? iam not the one comparing cpu's ps3 fanboys are and i posted this to show them that the cell is not all that sony claims to be, nice try tho

Lets see a Cell built to PC standards and then lets talk. Console CPUs are basically downgraded and specialized for gaming. Meaning, they are no where near as powerful as PC CPU of today, or yesterday. Heck, both the Cell and whatever they call the 360's, xenos or xenon, whatever, have about the power of something near a Pentium D. This comparison of your is foolish and arrogant. Nice try though.

Sony claimed that the PS3 is a super computer. So this thread is relevant in showing that the PS3's Cell can't even keep up with a 3+ year old CPU.

thats what every company do is hype. its part of their marketing. the cell is a powerful processor but sony did go overboard by saiding cell is better than many other cpu.

ah but they did

 

Sony exec: nobody will ever tap full power of PS3

By Jeremy Reimer | Published: December 19, 2006 - 03:36PM CT

In an interview with MTV, Sony executive Phil Harrison talked about the PlayStation 3 and where his company was planning on taking their latest game console...

 

In fact, he stated that the current crop of games are using "less than half" of the machine's power, and that "nobody will ever use 100 percent of its capability." Of course, it is common at the beginning of a new console's life for games to not make full use of the power of the hardware: it takes some time for developers to learn the best tricks and techniques for squeezing every last bit of calculating power from any new platform. But to claim that nobody could ever make full use of the system's power, ever, seems a bit hyperbolic

 

 

 arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20061219-8455.html

 

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[QUOTE="Mizarus"]

[QUOTE="Chris-Hansen"]data has to be optimized for cell which it is when games are made for it, you cant just run the same crap that you ran through a pc cpu through cell un optimized. so in other words this data means jack ****Chris-Hansen

yes it show that the cell has problems working with generic process which may hinder the ps3 overall perfomance, the allout optmization of the cell can acuattly be a problem for the ps3, finnaly somone who knows what hes talking about.

thats why you run generic stuff through the core and the physics and a lot of other stuff through SPEs, EDGE tools make it a lot easier for devs to optimize and take advantage of the CELL and games being made now use the tools. the first games using the tools will come out this fall, ever since the tools were handed out devs have been raving about how many problems they solved.

most 1st and 2nd party devs got the tools early and it shows, games like drake's and ratchet & clank look amazing and are not even halfway finished yet and they havent been working on R&C that long because they were working on resistance.

they can make amazing games for the ps3 no doubt on that, but while thecell might be great for gaming(as long its designed and optmised for it, and folding@home) its not all that sony cranked up to be. i did tryed to find more accurate bench marks but thats all i managed to dig up. 

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[QUOTE="Mizarus"][QUOTE="Spartan8907"][QUOTE="Mizarus"]

[QUOTE="Spartan8907"]Hmm, another fanboy comparing a Console CPU to a PC CPU. When will they learn?Spartan8907

lol you are really going to turn this around? iam not the one comparing cpu's ps3 fanboys are and i posted this to show them that the cell is not all that sony claims to be, nice try tho

Lets see a Cell built to PC standards and then lets talk. Console CPUs are basically downgraded and specialized for gaming. Meaning, they are no where near as powerful as PC CPU of today, or yesterday. Heck, both the Cell and whatever they call the 360's, xenos or xenon, whatever, have about the power of something near a Pentium D. This comparison of your is foolish and arrogant. Nice try though.

you might know that, but theres a lot of people who dosent and try to hype ps3 processor above all living things this thread is for them not you.

Yes, and I hate all of them. But this thread isnt helping. Making something like this will only fuel their fanboyism.

Oh, and what bean said: I would like to see some 360 benchmarks. It wouldnt silence any fanboys, thats for sure, but at least the truth would be known.

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Some people cant handle the truth...or reality. They are called fanboys.

theres always hope,and i coudnt find any 360 benchies but i belive the cell probly takes the crown here. 

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[QUOTE="Spartan8907"][QUOTE="Mizarus"][QUOTE="Spartan8907"][QUOTE="Mizarus"]

[QUOTE="Spartan8907"]Hmm, another fanboy comparing a Console CPU to a PC CPU. When will they learn?Mizarus

lol you are really going to turn this around? iam not the one comparing cpu's ps3 fanboys are and i posted this to show them that the cell is not all that sony claims to be, nice try tho

Lets see a Cell built to PC standards and then lets talk. Console CPUs are basically downgraded and specialized for gaming. Meaning, they are no where near as powerful as PC CPU of today, or yesterday. Heck, both the Cell and whatever they call the 360's, xenos or xenon, whatever, have about the power of something near a Pentium D. This comparison of your is foolish and arrogant. Nice try though.

you might know that, but theres a lot of people who dosent and try to hype ps3 processor above all living things this thread is for them not you.

Yes, and I hate all of them. But this thread isnt helping. Making something like this will only fuel their fanboyism.

Oh, and what bean said: I would like to see some 360 benchmarks. It wouldnt silence any fanboys, thats for sure, but at least the truth would be known.

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Some people cant handle the truth...or reality. They are called fanboys.

theres always hope,and i coudnt find any 360 benchies but i belive the cell probly takes the crown here.

even if the x360 has better performance on those benchies . i still get a ps3 no matter what.
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[QUOTE="Mizarus"][QUOTE="Spartan8907"][QUOTE="Mizarus"][QUOTE="Spartan8907"][QUOTE="Mizarus"]

[QUOTE="Spartan8907"]Hmm, another fanboy comparing a Console CPU to a PC CPU. When will they learn?c02z

lol you are really going to turn this around? iam not the one comparing cpu's ps3 fanboys are and i posted this to show them that the cell is not all that sony claims to be, nice try tho

Lets see a Cell built to PC standards and then lets talk. Console CPUs are basically downgraded and specialized for gaming. Meaning, they are no where near as powerful as PC CPU of today, or yesterday. Heck, both the Cell and whatever they call the 360's, xenos or xenon, whatever, have about the power of something near a Pentium D. This comparison of your is foolish and arrogant. Nice try though.

you might know that, but theres a lot of people who dosent and try to hype ps3 processor above all living things this thread is for them not you.

Yes, and I hate all of them. But this thread isnt helping. Making something like this will only fuel their fanboyism.

Oh, and what bean said: I would like to see some 360 benchmarks. It wouldnt silence any fanboys, thats for sure, but at least the truth would be known.

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Some people cant handle the truth...or reality. They are called fanboys.

id buy a ps3 just to get microsoft off the console market... damn those money eating dudes with glasses!

theres always hope,and i coudnt find any 360 benchies but i belive the cell probly takes the crown here.

even if the x360 has better performance on those benchies . i still get a ps3 no matter what.

id buy a ps3 just to get microsoft off the gaming market... they are so evil 

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Hmm, another fanboy comparing a Console CPU to a PC CPU. When will they learn?Spartan8907
But PS3 is "the supercomputer" -Ken K
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#31 Spartan8907
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[QUOTE="Ichiroisawsome"][QUOTE="Spartan8907"][QUOTE="Mizarus"]

[QUOTE="Spartan8907"]Hmm, another fanboy comparing a Console CPU to a PC CPU. When will they learn?Mizarus

lol you are really going to turn this around? iam not the one comparing cpu's ps3 fanboys are and i posted this to show them that the cell is not all that sony claims to be, nice try tho

Lets see a Cell built to PC standards and then lets talk. Console CPUs are basically downgraded and specialized for gaming. Meaning, they are no where near as powerful as PC CPU of today, or yesterday. Heck, both the Cell and whatever they call the 360's, xenos or xenon, whatever, have about the power of something near a Pentium D. This comparison of your is foolish and arrogant. Nice try though.

Sony claimed that the PS3 is a super computer. So this thread is relevant in showing that the PS3's Cell can't even keep up with a 3+ year old CPU.

yes it dosent matter if it isnt opmized, sony said it was a supercomputer that pc users woudnt need their pc's anymore, but thats not truth and that benchmark shows that the ps3 cant keep up with the every day pc use and basing this topic on Sony's hype on the cell remember that

The fact is that no console can really keep up with a PC. That is a fact that everyone should know but dont. And theads like this arent helping.

 BTW, what does Phil Harrison know about the specifics of the cell. I do not believe he is an engineer or developer of any sort. So, why do you listen to him?

And, thanks Mizarus. The PS3 may outscore the 360 in the CPU department, but in the graphics department, I think the 360 has a slight edge. 

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[QUOTE="c02z"][QUOTE="Mizarus"][QUOTE="Spartan8907"][QUOTE="Mizarus"][QUOTE="Spartan8907"][QUOTE="Mizarus"]

[QUOTE="Spartan8907"]Hmm, another fanboy comparing a Console CPU to a PC CPU. When will they learn?Mizarus

lol you are really going to turn this around? iam not the one comparing cpu's ps3 fanboys are and i posted this to show them that the cell is not all that sony claims to be, nice try tho

Lets see a Cell built to PC standards and then lets talk. Console CPUs are basically downgraded and specialized for gaming. Meaning, they are no where near as powerful as PC CPU of today, or yesterday. Heck, both the Cell and whatever they call the 360's, xenos or xenon, whatever, have about the power of something near a Pentium D. This comparison of your is foolish and arrogant. Nice try though.

you might know that, but theres a lot of people who dosent and try to hype ps3 processor above all living things this thread is for them not you.

Yes, and I hate all of them. But this thread isnt helping. Making something like this will only fuel their fanboyism.

Oh, and what bean said: I would like to see some 360 benchmarks. It wouldnt silence any fanboys, thats for sure, but at least the truth would be known.

-----

Some people cant handle the truth...or reality. They are called fanboys.

id buy a ps3 just to get microsoft off the console market... damn those money eating dudes with glasses!

theres always hope,and i coudnt find any 360 benchies but i belive the cell probly takes the crown here.

even if the x360 has better performance on those benchies . i still get a ps3 no matter what.

id buy a ps3 just to get microsoft off the gaming market... they are so evil

lol, i bet the reason of your hatred is from all those windows crashes. ;)
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[QUOTE="Mizarus"][QUOTE="c02z"][QUOTE="Mizarus"][QUOTE="Spartan8907"][QUOTE="Mizarus"][QUOTE="Spartan8907"][QUOTE="Mizarus"]

[QUOTE="Spartan8907"]Hmm, another fanboy comparing a Console CPU to a PC CPU. When will they learn?c02z

lol you are really going to turn this around? iam not the one comparing cpu's ps3 fanboys are and i posted this to show them that the cell is not all that sony claims to be, nice try tho

Lets see a Cell built to PC standards and then lets talk. Console CPUs are basically downgraded and specialized for gaming. Meaning, they are no where near as powerful as PC CPU of today, or yesterday. Heck, both the Cell and whatever they call the 360's, xenos or xenon, whatever, have about the power of something near a Pentium D. This comparison of your is foolish and arrogant. Nice try though.

you might know that, but theres a lot of people who dosent and try to hype ps3 processor above all living things this thread is for them not you.

Yes, and I hate all of them. But this thread isnt helping. Making something like this will only fuel their fanboyism.

Oh, and what bean said: I would like to see some 360 benchmarks. It wouldnt silence any fanboys, thats for sure, but at least the truth would be known.

-----

Some people cant handle the truth...or reality. They are called fanboys.

id buy a ps3 just to get microsoft off the console market... damn those money eating dudes with glasses!

theres always hope,and i coudnt find any 360 benchies but i belive the cell probly takes the crown here.

even if the x360 has better performance on those benchies . i still get a ps3 no matter what.

id buy a ps3 just to get microsoft off the gaming market... they are so evil

lol, i bet the reason of your hatred is from all those windows crashing. ;)

lol no it acuatly dosent crash much these days, but they rip you off to the last peny, and also having to pay to use the most unstable system in the market just isnt fair. and i always enjoyed sony consoles while 360's only have fps's on their side, yea i guess thats what i need crappy fps's when i have a pc =p 

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#34 Mizarus
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[QUOTE="Mizarus"][QUOTE="Ichiroisawsome"][QUOTE="Spartan8907"][QUOTE="Mizarus"]

[QUOTE="Spartan8907"]Hmm, another fanboy comparing a Console CPU to a PC CPU. When will they learn?Spartan8907

lol you are really going to turn this around? iam not the one comparing cpu's ps3 fanboys are and i posted this to show them that the cell is not all that sony claims to be, nice try tho

Lets see a Cell built to PC standards and then lets talk. Console CPUs are basically downgraded and specialized for gaming. Meaning, they are no where near as powerful as PC CPU of today, or yesterday. Heck, both the Cell and whatever they call the 360's, xenos or xenon, whatever, have about the power of something near a Pentium D. This comparison of your is foolish and arrogant. Nice try though.

Sony claimed that the PS3 is a super computer. So this thread is relevant in showing that the PS3's Cell can't even keep up with a 3+ year old CPU.

yes it dosent matter if it isnt opmized, sony said it was a supercomputer that pc users woudnt need their pc's anymore, but thats not truth and that benchmark shows that the ps3 cant keep up with the every day pc use and basing this topic on Sony's hype on the cell remember that

The fact is that no console can really keep up with a PC. That is a fact that everyone should know but dont. And theads like this arent helping.

BTW, what does Phil Harrison know about the specifics of the cell. I do not believe he is an engineer or developer of any sort. So, why do you listen to him?

And, thanks Mizarus. The PS3 may outscore the 360 in the CPU department, but in the graphics department, I think the 360 has a slight edge.

he is representing sony and this kinda info gets printed on fanboys brains once they read it no matter whom they come from.

now iam not sure who wins in the graphical departament the 360 gpu is slightly better but the ps3 can pronly handle a more stable frame rate, i wont talk about the blu ray here i think thats unecessary, it seems that most of the people i wanted to accuatly teach something are just going to ignore or discredit this thread somehow, i think you may be right lets just let it die. 

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#35 Chris-Hansen
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The fact is that no console can really keep up with a PC. That is a fact that everyone should know but dont. And theads like this arent helping.

 BTW, what does Phil Harrison know about the specifics of the cell. I do not believe he is an engineer or developer of any sort. So, why do you listen to him?

And, thanks Mizarus. The PS3 may outscore the 360 in the CPU department, but in the graphics department, I think the 360 has a slight edge. 

Spartan8907
not really, the 360's best looking game is gears of war, no argument there. but unreal tournament 3 was playable at GDC this year at the sony booth on ps3 and everyone said it looked better than gears already, and the game is a year from release. its amazing it can look that good while having larger maps, more players, vehicles, faster pace, etc.
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#36 Kreean
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@TC

please read the end of Geek Patrols "benchmark" http://www.geekpatrol.ca/2006/11/playstation-3-performance/

Geekbench also isn't able to exploit the eight vector processors on the Cell processor. Any program designed and optimized for the Cell processor should be a lot faster than one designed for a generic processor (like, say, Geekbench). So while the Geekbench results might seem disappointing, keep in mind that Geekbench can't exercise the PlayStation 3 to its full potential.

I think you didn't read this! Did you? If you did, then why did you post this thread?

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#37 Mizarus
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@TC

please read the end of Geek Patrols "benchmark" http://www.geekpatrol.ca/2006/11/playstation-3-performance/

Geekbench also isn't able to exploit the eight vector processors on the Cell processor. Any program designed and optimized for the Cell processor should be a lot faster than one designed for a generic processor (like, say, Geekbench). So while the Geekbench results might seem disappointing, keep in mind that Geekbench can't exercise the PlayStation 3 to its full potential.

I think you didn't read this! Did you? If you did, then why did you post this thread?

Kreean

yes we already discussed that, read the whole thread before posting please 

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Ohh  come on , this thread is foolish and you know it .

Comparing a single Cell ( G4 ) Core without the 7 SPE's being used to a G5 using in a single thead generic benchmark test proves nothing , only that the tester is a NOOB .

We all know Linux on the PS3 does not use any SPE so any benchmark in Linux would just test the Core .

 

 PS,

Look at the comments on the last link you provided .

 

 

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#39 Mizarus
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Ohh come on , this thread is foolish and you know it .

Comparing a single Cell ( G4 ) Core without the 7 SPE's being used to a G5 using in a single thead generic benchmark test proves nothing , only that the tester is a NOOB .

We all know Linux on the PS3 does not use any SPE so any benchmark in Linux would just test the Core .

 

PS,

Look at the comments on the last link you provided .

 

 

Caseytappy

i did, iam not disproving the power of the cell, again iam just stating its not a supercomputer, its not as eficient as sony claims it to be, its not going to replace anything at this moment, my point being is the cell is powerfull yes, its what sony said it would be NO. i tryed to find acurate benchies but again they dont seem to be avaliable yet, all this benchmarks proove is, Ps3 is not Th3 super computer sony claimed it would be. 

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[QUOTE="Kreean"]

@TC

please read the end of Geek Patrols "benchmark" http://www.geekpatrol.ca/2006/11/playstation-3-performance/

Geekbench also isn't able to exploit the eight vector processors on the Cell processor. Any program designed and optimized for the Cell processor should be a lot faster than one designed for a generic processor (like, say, Geekbench). So while the Geekbench results might seem disappointing, keep in mind that Geekbench can't exercise the PlayStation 3 to its full potential.

I think you didn't read this! Did you? If you did, then why did you post this thread?

Mizarus

yes we already discussed that, read the whole thread before posting please 

That's not the point, the point is that you used this so-called "benchmark" and didn't read the end of it. If you have, then you used it in a biased way to "own", "pwn" or whatever it is called, the PS3 users, without having "real" facts to do so.

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[QUOTE="Spartan8907"]The fact is that no console can really keep up with a PC. That is a fact that everyone should know but dont. And theads like this arent helping.

BTW, what does Phil Harrison know about the specifics of the cell. I do not believe he is an engineer or developer of any sort. So, why do you listen to him?

And, thanks Mizarus. The PS3 may outscore the 360 in the CPU department, but in the graphics department, I think the 360 has a slight edge.

Chris-Hansen
not really, the 360's best looking game is gears of war, no argument there. but unreal tournament 3 was playable at GDC this year at the sony booth on ps3 and everyone said it looked better than gears already, and the game is a year from release. its amazing it can look that good while having larger maps, more players, vehicles, faster pace, etc.

What exactly did you respond to? From your post, it sounds like you think...actually, I have idea what you think. Anybody know what he was talking about? Okay, UT 3 looks better than gear. What exactly were you getting at?
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#42 Chris-Hansen
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[QUOTE="Mizarus"][QUOTE="Kreean"]

@TC

please read the end of Geek Patrols "benchmark" http://www.geekpatrol.ca/2006/11/playstation-3-performance/

Geekbench also isn't able to exploit the eight vector processors on the Cell processor. Any program designed and optimized for the Cell processor should be a lot faster than one designed for a generic processor (like, say, Geekbench). So while the Geekbench results might seem disappointing, keep in mind that Geekbench can't exercise the PlayStation 3 to its full potential.

I think you didn't read this! Did you? If you did, then why did you post this thread?

Kreean

yes we already discussed that, read the whole thread before posting please 

That's not the point, the point is that you used this so-called "benchmark" and didn't read the end of it. If you have, then you used it in a biased way to "own", "pwn" or whatever it is called, the PS3 users, without having "real" facts to do so.

the giver rules
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#43 Mizarus
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[QUOTE="Kreean"][QUOTE="Mizarus"][QUOTE="Kreean"]

@TC

please read the end of Geek Patrols "benchmark" http://www.geekpatrol.ca/2006/11/playstation-3-performance/

Geekbench also isn't able to exploit the eight vector processors on the Cell processor. Any program designed and optimized for the Cell processor should be a lot faster than one designed for a generic processor (like, say, Geekbench). So while the Geekbench results might seem disappointing, keep in mind that Geekbench can't exercise the PlayStation 3 to its full potential.

I think you didn't read this! Did you? If you did, then why did you post this thread?

Chris-Hansen

yes we already discussed that, read the whole thread before posting please

That's not the point, the point is that you used this so-called "benchmark" and didn't read the end of it. If you have, then you used it in a biased way to "own", "pwn" or whatever it is called, the PS3 users, without having "real" facts to do so.

the giver rules

already said that i would buy a ps3, and that i plan to, already said that iam no bashing it but just bringint it to the light, again read the whole thread 

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#44 Mizarus
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[QUOTE="Chris-Hansen"][QUOTE="Kreean"][QUOTE="Mizarus"][QUOTE="Kreean"]

@TC

please read the end of Geek Patrols "benchmark" http://www.geekpatrol.ca/2006/11/playstation-3-performance/

Geekbench also isn't able to exploit the eight vector processors on the Cell processor. Any program designed and optimized for the Cell processor should be a lot faster than one designed for a generic processor (like, say, Geekbench). So while the Geekbench results might seem disappointing, keep in mind that Geekbench can't exercise the PlayStation 3 to its full potential.

I think you didn't read this! Did you? If you did, then why did you post this thread?

Mizarus

yes we already discussed that, read the whole thread before posting please

That's not the point, the point is that you used this so-called "benchmark" and didn't read the end of it. If you have, then you used it in a biased way to "own", "pwn" or whatever it is called, the PS3 users, without having "real" facts to do so.

already said that i would buy a ps3, and that i plan to, already said that iam no bashing it but just bringint it to the light, again read the whole thread

and i did read every single post on both pages btw if but if you had read the whole thing you would know that woudnt you.

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[QUOTE="Mizarus"][QUOTE="Chris-Hansen"][QUOTE="Kreean"][QUOTE="Mizarus"][QUOTE="Kreean"]

@TC

please read the end of Geek Patrols "benchmark" http://www.geekpatrol.ca/2006/11/playstation-3-performance/

Geekbench also isn't able to exploit the eight vector processors on the Cell processor. Any program designed and optimized for the Cell processor should be a lot faster than one designed for a generic processor (like, say, Geekbench). So while the Geekbench results might seem disappointing, keep in mind that Geekbench can't exercise the PlayStation 3 to its full potential.

I think you didn't read this! Did you? If you did, then why did you post this thread?

Mizarus

yes we already discussed that, read the whole thread before posting please

That's not the point, the point is that you used this so-called "benchmark" and didn't read the end of it. If you have, then you used it in a biased way to "own", "pwn" or whatever it is called, the PS3 users, without having "real" facts to do so.

the giver rules

already said that i would buy a ps3, and that i plan to, already said that iam no bashing it but just bringint it to the light, again read the whole thread

and i did read every single post on both pages btw if but if you had read the whole thing you would know that woudnt you. 

what the hell are you talking about and why are you quoting me ? i was commenting on his avatar
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#46 Mizarus
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[QUOTE="Mizarus"][QUOTE="Mizarus"][QUOTE="Chris-Hansen"][QUOTE="Kreean"][QUOTE="Mizarus"][QUOTE="Kreean"]

@TC

please read the end of Geek Patrols "benchmark" http://www.geekpatrol.ca/2006/11/playstation-3-performance/

Geekbench also isn't able to exploit the eight vector processors on the Cell processor. Any program designed and optimized for the Cell processor should be a lot faster than one designed for a generic processor (like, say, Geekbench). So while the Geekbench results might seem disappointing, keep in mind that Geekbench can't exercise the PlayStation 3 to its full potential.

I think you didn't read this! Did you? If you did, then why did you post this thread?

Chris-Hansen

yes we already discussed that, read the whole thread before posting please

That's not the point, the point is that you used this so-called "benchmark" and didn't read the end of it. If you have, then you used it in a biased way to "own", "pwn" or whatever it is called, the PS3 users, without having "real" facts to do so.

already said that i would buy a ps3, and that i plan to, already said that iam no bashing it but just bringint it to the light, again read the whole thread

and i did read every single post on both pages btw if but if you had read the whole thing you would know that woudnt you.

what the hell are you talking about and why are you quoting me ? i was commenting on his avatar

iam still talking to him =p, i forgot to remove your quote my bad

fixed 

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Hmm, another fanboy comparing a Console CPU to a PC CPU. When will they learn?Spartan8907

It isn't even that simple.

The Cell isn't even an x86 CPU and it processes instructions differently to your typical x86 PC CPU. The person who did those benchmarks is an ass, and it shame when the blind follow the blind. 

That guy didn't even measure the floating point performance of the Cell. :lol:

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[QUOTE="Mizarus]
and i did read every single post on both pages btw if but if you had read the whole thing you would know that woudnt you.

Yes I did read all the posts too, but I asked you a simple question:
Did you read the complete Geek Patrol "benchmark", especially the Conclusion at the end?

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Tee. Arr. Oh. Ell. Ell.

Who do we appreciate! GOOOO TROOOOOOLLLS!!!!

D_Znuhtz

 

I'm pretty sure it's not just a bunch of mindless hate speech... 

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LMAO, that's the dumbest "benchmark" I've ever seen.  They don't use the SPE's at all, they just run on the PPE.  They also use double precision, not single precision like the Cell was meant for.  What a joke.