Wanna know why SE always support SONY?

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#1 Heri012
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Because both two company have really good long term relationship. They both enjoy working together. You fanboys ( especially lems ) need to know their culture is different from your country which money & profit are everything. I knew japanese culture a lot because I`m studying there or 5 years.

And one thing don`t even dream of M$ will buy big company like SE, Konami & Capcom just becase M$ have infinite $$$$$. It just look like nerds wishful thinking IMO. You knew nothing about Japanese culture & bussiness perspective. Except small company off course.....Grow up and see outside world.....

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Sony at one point owned 19% of Squaresoft, they still might IDK
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#3 marth678
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no, wrong square made LOTS OF money of ff7, thats why sony and square are in so much love now.
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#4 marth678
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no, wrong square made LOTS OF money of ff7, thats why sony and square are in so much love now.
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#5 Kaze_no_Mirai
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I don't think its that they "enjoy working together" More like, they make tons of money on Sony platforms. :?
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That and Sony saved their butts after the whole Spirits Within fiasco, and Square normally meats success on a Sony console.
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That and Sony saved their butts after the whole Spirits Within fiasco. That and Square normally meats success on a Sony console.Ragnarok1051

There's the input I was waiting for. Square (SE) has a good track record on PS products, and as Ragnarok stated it was Sony that stepped up to help after the fallout from the movie.

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Sony at one point owned 19% of Squaresoft, they still might IDKSonic_on_crack

More like 8-10% now probably, you be assured their share of the company was considerably deminished when the two merged.

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sony is the biggest holder in square enix behind the founder of square enix, that is why.
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]That and Sony saved their butts after the whole Spirits Within fiasco. That and Square normally meats success on a Sony console.-RPGamer-

There's the input I was waiting for. Square (SE) has a good track record on PS products, and as Ragnarok stated it was Sony that stepped up to help after the fallout from the movie.

The best investment Sony probably ever made.

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Show me proof where Sony is a shareholder in SE.
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[QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]That and Sony saved their butts after the whole Spirits Within fiasco. That and Square normally meats success on a Sony console.Ragnarok1051

There's the input I was waiting for. Square (SE) has a good track record on PS products, and as Ragnarok stated it was Sony that stepped up to help after the fallout from the movie.

The best investment Sony probably ever made.

I do agree with that. Over here at the Final Fantasy Experience Union we hold a lot of respect for SE of course. Many of our users own a Xbox 360 though(one of our topics currently about Blue Dragon). But like myself we're all just waiting for Final Fantasy XIII to finally release before purchasing a Playstation 3.

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is this why dragonquest 9 is on ds.
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Square always work for the winner and thats PStriple no doubt

seems like a trend right

they worked for NES: winner

Snes: winner

Ps1: winner

PS2: winner

PS3: expected to win

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sony is the biggest holder in square enix behind the founder of square enix, that is why.Mandingo101

Because we all know about 10% give or take dictates an entire company..

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Because both two company have really good long term relationship. They both enjoy working together. You fanboys ( especially lems ) need to know their culture is different from your country which money & profit are everything. I knew japanese culture a lot because I`m studying there or 5 years.

And one thing don`t even dream of M$ will buy big company like SE, Konami & Capcom just becase M$ have infinite $$$$$. It just look like nerds wishful thinking IMO. You knew nothing about Japanese culture & bussiness perspective. Except small company off course.....Grow up and see outside world.....

Heri012

Oh. And I lived in Okinawa, Japan for about 7 years and been just about everywhere there. The business world is different in Japan compared to other countries. But money is money. A few months ago Square Enix has decided to created their next online title(MMORPG) for the Xbox 360 and the PC(rumor has it to be apart of the Ivalice Alliance or Compilation of FFVII). They have some concerns with the PS Network. Plans could change though. But over in Japan the online gaming community isn't as big compared to other Asian countries. But Square Enix's Final Fantasy XI has a solid subscription base their along with Before Crisis, Final Fantasy VII(mobile). They've helped open up the idea of online gaming over in Japan.

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[QUOTE="Heri012"]

Because both two company have really good long term relationship. They both enjoy working together. You fanboys ( especially lems ) need to know their culture is different from your country which money & profit are everything. I knew japanese culture a lot because I`m studying there or 5 years.

And one thing don`t even dream of M$ will buy big company like SE, Konami & Capcom just becase M$ have infinite $$$$$. It just look like nerds wishful thinking IMO. You knew nothing about Japanese culture & bussiness perspective. Except small company off course.....Grow up and see outside world.....

NeoGen85

Oh. And I lived in Okinawa, Japan for about 7 years and been just about everywhere there. The business world is different in Japan compared to other countries. But money is money. A few months ago Square Enix has decided to created their next online title(MMORPG) for the Xbox 360 and the PC(rumor has it to be apart of the Ivalice Alliance or Compilation of FFVII). They have some concerns with the PS Network. Plans could change though. But over in Japan the online gaming community isn't as big compared to other Asian countries. But Square Enix's Final Fantasy XI has a solid subscription base their along with Before Crisis, Final Fantasy VII(mobile). They've helped open up the idea of online gaming over in Japan.

And I am from nevada and have no way of comfirming anything :P anyways I am sure SE is on a wait and see phase they probably want a big enough user base around the world then they can talk multiports and so far they are crumbling the last remenant is proof SE is cracking a little.

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What exactly are they supporting psp and ps3 with besides the FFXIII projects (i'm asking)? It seems like they have been supporting Nintendo more lately.
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[QUOTE="Mandingo101"]sony is the biggest holder in square enix behind the founder of square enix, that is why.DoctorBunny

Because we all know about 10% give or take dictates an entire company..

yes being the biggest holder in the company besides the founder has absolutely no say in business affairs or no perks with getting exclusive offers first...
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Show me proof where Sony is a shareholder in SE.WalterPaladines

http://www.square-enix.com/jp/ir/e/stock/stockholder/index.html

Principal Shareholders (As of March 31, 2007)

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yes being the biggest holder in the company besides the founder has absolutely no say in business affairs or no perks with getting exclusive offers first...Mandingo101

With such a small "biggest" they'd have a hard time doing squat if the rest of the shareholders didn't agree.

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[QUOTE="WalterPaladines"]Show me proof where Sony is a shareholder in SE.-cnc-

http://www.square-enix.com/jp/ir/e/stock/stockholder/index.html

Principal Shareholders (As of March 31, 2007)

owned.

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Square supports Sony a lot. I think they were the only developer that even took the PS2 harddrive add on seriously. 
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[QUOTE="-cnc-"]

[QUOTE="WalterPaladines"]Show me proof where Sony is a shareholder in SE.Korrigan777

http://www.square-enix.com/jp/ir/e/stock/stockholder/index.html

Principal Shareholders (As of March 31, 2007)

owned.

Less than nine percent is "owned"?
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[QUOTE="Korrigan777"][QUOTE="-cnc-"]

[QUOTE="WalterPaladines"]Show me proof where Sony is a shareholder in SE.briguyb13

http://www.square-enix.com/jp/ir/e/stock/stockholder/index.html

Principal Shareholders (As of March 31, 2007)

owned.

Less than nine percent is "owned"?

:lol: what did he ask?

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[QUOTE="Korrigan777"][QUOTE="-cnc-"]

[QUOTE="WalterPaladines"]Show me proof where Sony is a shareholder in SE.briguyb13

http://www.square-enix.com/jp/ir/e/stock/stockholder/index.html

Principal Shareholders ?As of March 31, 2007?

owned.

Less than nine percent is "owned"?

It's better than nothing. And Sony-Square have done various joint efforts like FFVII the movie.
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Because both two company have really good long term relationship. They both enjoy working together. You fanboys ( especially lems ) need to know their culture is different from your country which money & profit are everything. I knew japanese culture a lot because I`m studying there or 5 years.

And one thing don`t even dream of M$ will buy big company like SE, Konami & Capcom just becase M$ have infinite $$$$$. It just look like nerds wishful thinking IMO. You knew nothing about Japanese culture & bussiness perspective. Except small company off course.....Grow up and see outside world.....

Heri012

I agree

Its also no wounder most of the greatest games ever made were made in japan. FF,MGS,Zelda,RE,GT,Mario,ect.

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[QUOTE="-cnc-"]

[QUOTE="WalterPaladines"]Show me proof where Sony is a shareholder in SE.Korrigan777

http://www.square-enix.com/jp/ir/e/stock/stockholder/index.html

Principal Shareholders (As of March 31, 2007)

owned.

LOL, how am I owned?? I just requested proof that Sony was a shareholder, if anything.....

/TLHBO

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[QUOTE="briguyb13"][QUOTE="Korrigan777"][QUOTE="-cnc-"]

[QUOTE="WalterPaladines"]Show me proof where Sony is a shareholder in SE.RedMarzBoy

http://www.square-enix.com/jp/ir/e/stock/stockholder/index.html

Principal Shareholders ?As of March 31, 2007?

owned.

Less than nine percent is "owned"?

It's better than nothing. And Sony-Square have done various joint efforts like FFVII the movie.

Oh I see what he meant. Nine percent is almost nothing, if it was something, Sony would have stopped SE from releasing DQ9 on the DS and made them put it on the PSP.
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[QUOTE="Heri012"]

Because both two company have really good long term relationship. They both enjoy working together. You fanboys ( especially lems ) need to know their culture is different from your country which money & profit are everything. I knew japanese culture a lot because I`m studying there or 5 years.

And one thing don`t even dream of M$ will buy big company like SE, Konami & Capcom just becase M$ have infinite $$$$$. It just look like nerds wishful thinking IMO. You knew nothing about Japanese culture & bussiness perspective. Except small company off course.....Grow up and see outside world.....

gameruk2010

I agree

Its also no wounder most of the greatest games ever made were made in japan. FF,MGS,Zelda,RE,GT,Mario,ect.

so many games to add to that list...

errruggh..imagine if all we got all the time was just WW2 fps and SCI-FIfps' or endless tolkien-esque rpgs

japanese devs No.1 imo

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[QUOTE="Korrigan777"][QUOTE="-cnc-"]

[QUOTE="WalterPaladines"]Show me proof where Sony is a shareholder in SE.WalterPaladines

http://www.square-enix.com/jp/ir/e/stock/stockholder/index.html

Principal Shareholders (As of March 31, 2007)

owned.

LOL, how am I owned?? I just requested proof that Sony was a shareholder, if anything.....

/TLHBO

lol sorry man i'm in a really dumb mood.

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Didn't the tanking of Spirits Within bring down a whole company that was under Square's control?
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[QUOTE="RedMarzBoy"][QUOTE="briguyb13"][QUOTE="Korrigan777"][QUOTE="-cnc-"]

briguyb13
Less than nine percent is "owned"?

It's better than nothing. And Sony-Square have done various joint efforts like FFVII the movie.

Oh I see what he meant. Nine percent is almost nothing, if it was something, Sony would have stopped SE from releasing DQ9 on the DS and made them put it on the PSP.

Nobody cares about DQ9 outside of Japan(okay a few people). With that said Sony does make money from every Square game, even the ones on the DS... so...Unless DQ10 comes only on the wii or 360 it will be bad for ps3 fans in japan. 
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Didn't the tanking of Spirits Within bring down a whole company that was under Square's control?Verge_6

They lost a tonne of money from spirits within, however the good thing to come out of it was that Square managed to make software that they are still using today extensively, every bit of software they used on spirits within they are still using to design games right now, they also used it for the FF7:AC Movie. Probably one of the few good things to come out of that venture.

Sony bought into square after this event to get them back on there feet and injected a tonne of money in the FFX venture, however after square merged with enix sony lost over half its share holder power and since they haven't been able to dictate where square developes anymore, however they are loyal (like most japanese companies) to one another. You won't see square shift its focus from sony unless sony somehow manage to completely screw up this generation where as square (a company that can't afford loss even now) would have to opt out of supporting sony and would most likely move back to nintendo.

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#35 Heil68
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Its all about the money and SE makes a lot of it for Sony.
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This may be a little over most of the readers heads, but I mentioned this earlier. Having worked in Japan i understand that the Japanese run large corporations using an kiritsu modo. A sort of intricate corporate bonding between large enterprises, in situations of potential foreign market penetration these companies bound by the kiritsu modo are willing to make sacrfices on profit in order to help one another. This type of corporate modo genrally tends to favor long term benefits over short term gains. Sony and SE are bound by this kiritsu modo.

Like I mentioned before this is also one of the main reasons why so much of Hollywood has become foreign property, the lack of coporate bonding outside of short term financial gains is the main reason why many large American Enterprises have fallen through out the years. This is primarily why Microsoft finds it so hard break into the Japanese gaming industry, it's something that not even money can penetrate. The idea of helping out another company at the cost of potential profits is insanity in American business, but in Japan it's how they stay alive.

Anyway before I start sounding like an old man, the best way for Americans to understand this Japanese way of business is by reading an novel by Michael Crichton called "Rising Sun" it delves deep into the Japanese business modo and it's kiritsu bonding.

P.S The Spirits Within problem was a good example of Sony fulfilling part of its kiritsu duties, even though at the time it investment and distribution of the film did very little to benefit Sony's bottom line, they reached out and helped when Square needed it most.

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Actually Sony has always operated outside of that kieritsu system and was always considered a bit of a maverick because of it. They were the first Japanese company to use Roman letters for their name and the first to have a foreign CEO with that Stringer guy. Sony's biggest shareholder is JP MorganChase.

Pimperjones doesn't know what he's talking about.

Money isn't nationalist, racist, or xenophobic. That's what makes free market capitalism so great. The keiritsu system is an outdated model. Last Remnant coming out on 360 and FFXI already on 360 is proof enough Microsoft is making inroads.

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Actually Sony has always operated outside of that kieritsu system and was always considered a bit of a maverick because of it. They were the first Japanese company to use Roman letters for their name and the first to have a foreign CEO with that Stringer guy. Sony's biggest shareholder is JP MorganChase.

Pimperjones doesn't know what he's talking about.

Money isn't nationalist, racist, or xenophobic. That's what makes free market capitalism so great. The keiritsu system is an outdated model. Last Remnant coming out on 360 and FFXI already on 360 is proof enough Microsoft is making inroads.

JiveT

You call FF11 inroads? :?

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Actually Sony has always operated outside of that kieritsu system and was always considered a bit of a maverick because of it. They were the first Japanese company to use Roman letters for their name and the first to have a foreign CEO with that Stringer guy. Sony's biggest shareholder is JP MorganChase.

Pimperjones doesn't know what he's talking about.

Money isn't nationalist, racist, or xenophobic. That's what makes free market capitalism so great. The keiritsu system is an outdated model. Last Remnant coming out on 360 and FFXI already on 360 is proof enough Microsoft is making inroads.

JiveT
I was in Japan 2 years ago and many companies still operate with the kiritsu system, including Sony if i'm not mistaken. Were you in the business field in Japan? I wasn't really in the business field but had dealings with people who were. If I'm not mistaken Sony's investment in The Spirit Within was not a profitable one and still isn't, if not for the Kiritsu system I can't see why Sony would have helped Square.
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[QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]That and Sony saved their butts after the whole Spirits Within fiasco. That and Square normally meats success on a Sony console.Ragnarok1051

There's the input I was waiting for. Square (SE) has a good track record on PS products, and as Ragnarok stated it was Sony that stepped up to help after the fallout from the movie.

The best investment Sony probably ever made.

I agree
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What exactly are they supporting psp and ps3 with besides the FFXIII projects (i'm asking)? It seems like they have been supporting Nintendo more lately.briguyb13

All their big guns for home consoles are on PS3. The only games they have coming for Wii are spinoffs, and only one, FF CC: The Crystal Bearers, looks decent. They do support the DS a ton though, no question about that.

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[QUOTE="briguyb13"]What exactly are they supporting psp and ps3 with besides the FFXIII projects (i'm asking)? It seems like they have been supporting Nintendo more lately.Gamer46

All their big guns for home consoles are on PS3. The only games they have coming for Wii are spinoffs, and only one, FF CC: The Crystal Bearers, looks decent. They do support the DS a ton though, no question about that.

Because that where the money is at. DS games!!

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Because both two company have really good long term relationship. They both enjoy working together. You fanboys ( especially lems ) need to know their culture is different from your country which money & profit are everything. I knew japanese culture a lot because I`m studying there or 5 years.Heri012

Here we go again.

Another cow that thinks Japans business is all about samurai honor codes :|

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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]That and Sony saved their butts after the whole Spirits Within fiasco. That and Square normally meats success on a Sony console.-RPGamer-

There's the input I was waiting for. Square (SE) has a good track record on PS products, and as Ragnarok stated it was Sony that stepped up to help after the fallout from the movie.

Before that, they sold just as much on nintendo consoles ;) if nintendo had CD on n64 SE would still be on nintendo.

Which kind of makes this argument defunk

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#45 DSgamer64
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If Square and Sony have always had a good relationship, then why is it that Final Fantasy did not get released until the 7th installment? It took 3 years for Final Fantasy 7 to come out on the PS1, 6 was out in 1994 on the SNES. I do not think it would have taken 3 years to make FF7. The only real reason Square switched over was due to hardware limitations with rendering a game in full 3D and cinematic cutscenes at the time being large in size.

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#46 dhjohns
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I don't think its that they "enjoy working together" More like, they make tons of money on Sony platforms. :?Kaze_no_Mirai

Shhh, don't tell TC this. He has gone native on us. :lol:

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#47 Tamashii-sosaku
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Square were big Nintendo supporters right up untill the PSone. The reason they originally switched to Sony was because the cartridge format Nintendo went with for the N64 seriously limited what Sqaure wanted to do with the next Final Fantasy game. i.e. tons of CG sequences.

The reason Square support Sony so much now is because for the last 2 generations Sony has been the market leader. If the Gamecube became the No1 console of last gen rather than the PS2 wou can almost guarantee that FF10 and 12 would have been on the Gamecube. But their obviously not that good buddies with Sony if they're releasing the next Dragon Quest game as a DS exclusive.

I don't see how studying in Japan for 5 years suddenly makes you expert on Square's business practices or relationships. I've lived in Japan for almost 4 years myself now but I'm certainley not arrogant enough to claim to be an authority on the inner workings of Japanese developers or publishers.

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#48 stvee101
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If Square and Sony have always had a good relationship, then why is it that Final Fantasy did not get released until the 7th installment? It took 3 years for Final Fantasy 7 to come out on the PS1, 6 was out in 1994 on the SNES. I do not think it would have taken 3 years to make FF7. The only real reason Square switched over was due to hardware limitations with rendering a game in full 3D and cinematic cutscenes at the time being large in size.

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Why wasn't final fantasy released on a sony format until 7??Eh.. because the PS1 wasn't released until 1994 the same year you state that 6 was released on the snes.FF7 if I'm not mistaken took 2 years to develop and was originally intended for the N64,but when square found that ninty was sticking with cartridges for its next-gen system they jumped ship for sony,and not just for the money(the PS1 was a completely unknown quantity back then,it's sucsess far from assured) but becuase the CD based PS1 would allow them to create a huge and epic game,not to mention letting them show of their stunning FMVs.