Warhammer people, I have to ask...

I saw a DoW video where green orcs (apperently "orks") were fighting space marines...

how is it that anyone can take any sort of lore that comes out of such a world seriously? It's like pirates versus ninjas versus robots..

I always hear how orginal and awesome Warhammer is, but I have to wonder -- who else was high enough to think this stuff up?

Im not a Warhammer fan...but your seriously misunderstanding something....

these "Orcs" are not the medevil orcs, but 40,000 years into the future...they to have all the future space tech.

Considering your "Pride" is a total rip-off of Warhammer in the first place, that's an interesting position to take.PBSnipes

Considering your "Pride" is a total rip-off of Warhammer in the first place, that's an interesting position to take.PBSnipes

Im not a Warhammerfan...but your seriously misunderstanding something....

these "Orcs" are the medevil orcs, but 40,000 years into the future...they to have all the future space tech.

cobrax75

[QUOTE="cobrax75"]

Im not a Warhammerfan...but your seriously misunderstanding something....

these "Orcs" are the medevil orcs, but 40,000 years into the future...they to have all the future space tech.

HoldThePhone

so i thought i'd learn more about Warhammer, the true original.HoldThePhone

I saw a DoW video where green orcs (apperently "orks") were fighting space marines...

how is it that anyone can take any sort of lore that comes out of such a world seriously? It's like pirates versus ninjas versus robots..

I always hear how orginal and awesome Warhammer is, but I have to wonder -- who else was high enough to think this stuff up?

HoldThePhone

[QUOTE="cobrax75"]

Im not a Warhammerfan...but your seriously misunderstanding something....

these "Orcs" are the medevil orcs, but 40,000 years into the future...they to have all the future space tech.

HoldThePhone

Because they are made to look technologiclly backwards....even their more high tech machines and tanks have a very primitive look to them.

It's like pirates versus ninjas versus robots..HoldThePhone

[QUOTE="HoldThePhone"]

I saw a DoW video where green orcs (apperently "orks") were fighting space marines...

how is it that anyone can take any sort of lore that comes out of such a world seriously? It's like pirates versus ninjas versus robots..

I always hear how orginal and awesome Warhammer is, but I have to wonder -- who else was high enough to think this stuff up?

AdrianWerner

[QUOTE="cobrax75"]

Im not a Warhammerfan...but your seriously misunderstanding something....

these "Orcs" are the medevil orcs, but 40,000 years into the future...they to have all the future space tech.

HoldThePhone

There weren't any orks with stone axes, look again. They have axes, but most are chain axes or power axes. They also have trucks, machine guns, mega-armor, and giant robots.

This is an ork

They're essentaily madmax...except green. :P

[QUOTE="HoldThePhone"][QUOTE="cobrax75"]

Im not a Warhammerfan...but your seriously misunderstanding something....

these "Orcs" are the medevil orcs, but 40,000 years into the future...they to have all the future space tech.

goblaa

There weren't any orks with stone axes, look again. They have axes, but most are chain axes or power axes. They also have trucks, machine guns, mega-armor, and giant robots.

This is an ork

[QUOTE="HoldThePhone"][QUOTE="cobrax75"]

Im not a Warhammerfan...but your seriously misunderstanding something....

these "Orcs" are the medevil orcs, but 40,000 years into the future...they to have all the future space tech.

goblaa

There weren't any orks with stone axes, look again. They have axes, but most are chain axes or power axes. They also have trucks, machine guns, mega-armor, and giant robots.

This is an ork

They're essentaily madmax...except green. :P

^This

Also this thread is now about awesome Ork pictures and SPEHSS MUHREENZ

[QUOTE="goblaa"][QUOTE="HoldThePhone"] then why do i see them rushing the front lines with stone axes? maybe this all simply isn't for me.HoldThePhone

There weren't any orks with stone axes, look again. They have axes, but most are chain axes or power axes. They also have trucks, machine guns, mega-armor, and giant robots.

This is an ork

Exactly.

Imperial Guard - humans

Space marines - knights

Orks - orcs

Chaos - demons and evil

Necrons - undead

Eldar - elves

Tyranids - alien movie rip-off

Tau - Well, tau aren't really from anything but anime. They were added to give Japan more reason to be interested in warhammer 40k.

[QUOTE="goblaa"][QUOTE="HoldThePhone"] then why do i see them rushing the front lines with stone axes? maybe this all simply isn't for me.Juggernaut140

There weren't any orks with stone axes, look again. They have axes, but most are chain axes or power axes. They also have trucks, machine guns, mega-armor, and giant robots.

This is an ork

They're essentaily madmax...except green. :P

Like the new stompa!...for stopmin'!!!

[QUOTE="HoldThePhone"][QUOTE="goblaa"]

There weren't any orks with stone axes, look again. They have axes, but most are chain axes or power axes. They also have trucks, machine guns, mega-armor, and giant robots.

This is an ork

goblaa

Exactly.

Imperial Guard - humans

Space marines - knights

Orks - orcs

Chaos - demons and evil

Necrons - undead

Eldar - elves

Tyranids - alien movie rip-off

Tau - Well, tau aren't really from anything but anime. They were added to give Japan more reason to be interested in warhammer 40k.

[QUOTE="Juggernaut140"][QUOTE="goblaa"]

There weren't any orks with stone axes, look again. They have axes, but most are chain axes or power axes. They also have trucks, machine guns, mega-armor, and giant robots.

This is an ork

They're essentaily madmax...except green. :P

goblaa

Like the new stompa!...for stopmin'!!!

[QUOTE="HoldThePhone"] yes i realize that Starcraft has medieval orcs fighting space marines with chainsaw bayonets, but that's besides the point. i respect warhammer because Blizzard apparently copied it, and it did a job of it. so i thought i'd learn more about Warhammer, the true original.PBSnipes

[QUOTE="goblaa"][QUOTE="Juggernaut140"] ^This Also this thread is now about awesome Ork pictures and SPEHSS MUHREENZJuggernaut140

Like the new stompa!...for stopmin'!!!

Yeah, I hope this big 'un makes into DOW2 as well. He's just cooler than the squigotth...not that squigs aren't awesome. :D

Space Hulk is my favourite part of 40k universe, but I guess I'm in the minority.Salt_The_Fries

No you're not. Everyone has a soft spot for space hulk somewhere in their heart.

[QUOTE="Salt_The_Fries"]Space Hulk is my favourite part of 40k universe, but I guess I'm in the minority.goblaa

No you're not. Everyone has a soft spot for space hulk somewhere in their heart.

[QUOTE="goblaa"]

[QUOTE="Salt_The_Fries"]Space Hulk is my favourite part of 40k universe, but I guess I'm in the minority.Salt_The_Fries

No you're not. Everyone has a soft spot for space hulk somewhere in their heart.

News to me. Sounds cool though.

[QUOTE="goblaa"]

[QUOTE="Salt_The_Fries"]Space Hulk is my favourite part of 40k universe, but I guess I'm in the minority.Salt_The_Fries

No you're not. Everyone has a soft spot for space hulk somewhere in their heart.

Considering your "Pride" is a total rip-off of Warhammer in the first place, that's an interesting position to take.PBSnipes

1. One is a Dark Fantasy/Sci Fi hybrid.
2. The other is a Traditional Military Sci Fi Space Opera.
3. Your statements = out of place.

how is it that anyone can take any sort of lore that comes out of such a world seriously?

Um, Warhammer 40,000 is essentially Warhammer in the future. It's almost like a pallette swap or something. Meh, I never liked many of the modern high fantasy universes anyway. Anything that's essentially a rip-off of Robert E. Howard, C.S Lewis, or JRR Tolkien, I pass. Come on, storytellers, make up your own damn original lore.FrozenLiquid

I'm guessing you don't like anything then?

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]Um, Warhammer 40,000 is essentially Warhammer in the future. It's almost like a pallette swap or something. Meh, I never liked many of the modern high fantasy universes anyway. Anything that's essentially a rip-off of Robert E. Howard, C.S Lewis, or JRR Tolkien, I pass. Come on, storytellers, make up your own damn original lore.Espada12

I'm guessing you don't like anything then?

I like Robert E. Howard, C.S Lewis, and JRR Tolkien? I thought that much was true. As I said though, high fantasy usually has issues with originality. Apparently it needs orcs, elves, and thousand-vs-thousand battles. Just look at Dragon Age. As for fantasy in general, too many genres have merged to make a real call, but there are still some decent universes out there with elements of high fantasy.

If you meant I disliked anything in the late 20th/early 21st Century fantasy, there's been quite a few original takes, and interestingly enough, a lot of them are aimed at young children. Artemis Fowl has a very interesting premise. After watching the movie, I've read up a bit on The Spiderwick Chronicles and I have to say the author too has derived his/her fantasy elements from ancient mythology as opposed to the 50's fantasy refinement. The Elder Scrolls sometimes falls a bit into the cliche category, but at other times it simply shines in original brilliance, especially the main plot of Morrowind. And of course, there's Harry Potter. Harry Potter has been one of the most original takes on fantasy since the Lord of the Rings/Narnia.

Anyone ever notice how in the Warhammer 40k RTS games the Orks suck ...ALOT? So broken. They should make it so that in DoW2 characters can melee while moving. This would stop the classic Ork dance of death where they get danced while getting shot to death. Also, I feel that my favorite group (The Eldar) also got ripped off. (Note I only play DC, not SS). I mean wtf? eldars are specialized troops, they arent like the other classes who can take multiple roles. They arent like the Sm squad who can both melee and shoot effectively or destroy buildings, with Eldars you need a specific unit for a specific task, then why on earth make them crap!? An SM squad can rape an Eldar banshee squad pre-CoW. WTF is that!? Are you telling me this hybrid quad that can do anything is better at melee than my specialized melee killing team!? BS! And then come the firewarriors. Come on, increase their dmg ffs. They do less than 1hp dmg to troops, so atleast give them insane vehicle/building dmg! Our only saving grace comes in the form of Snipers and Warp Stalkers. Even though they got nerfed they are still good, and no one talk about tier 3-4 considering 90% of the games end in tier 1-2.II_Seraphim_II

[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]Anyone ever notice how in the Warhammer 40k RTS games the Orks suck ...ALOT? So broken. They should make it so that in DoW2 characters can melee while moving. This would stop the classic Ork dance of death where they get danced while getting shot to death. Also, I feel that my favorite group (The Eldar) also got ripped off. (Note I only play DC, not SS). I mean wtf? eldars are specialized troops, they arent like the other classes who can take multiple roles. They arent like the Sm squad who can both melee and shoot effectively or destroy buildings, with Eldars you need a specific unit for a specific task, then why on earth make them crap!? An SM squad can rape an Eldar banshee squad pre-CoW. WTF is that!? Are you telling me this hybrid quad that can do anything is better at melee than my specialized melee killing team!? BS! And then come the firewarriors. Come on, increase their dmg ffs. They do less than 1hp dmg to troops, so atleast give them insane vehicle/building dmg! Our only saving grace comes in the form of Snipers and Warp Stalkers. Even though they got nerfed they are still good, and no one talk about tier 3-4 considering 90% of the games end in tier 1-2.jg4xchamp

it is posible to melee while moving in dow2, actualy melee (with knockback) is one of the strongest counters to retreating units

and orks are curently on top of the ladder

I still like space elfes more but whatever :P

oh and IG>orks ^^

As someone who plays the table top game and is a bit of a 40K lore junkie, I can tell you that its very good. The Orks make the lore that much more unique and great, they are not the normal Orcs you think about from WoW but are fungus men, with a great psychic power called the WAAAAAAGHH (pronounced WAW). This power isn't really actively used, but is kind of like a "I think it works so it does." For example Ork vehicles go faster when painted red because Orks think red paint makes it faster.

Ork culture is almost entirely based on fighting and dying (when they die they release spores and reproduce) and is the most numerous and brutal fighting force in the 40K universe and would have taken over it by now if they didn't love fighting (esspecially each other) so much. Orks are just one facet of the 40K universe. The other races are just as unique and interesting, Orks just happen to be the most humorous. It is said that every 40K player prefers certain races, but not a single one dislikes the Orks.

GREEN IZ BEST!