Was removing PS2 compatibility...a trick to make you buy them again?

I mean, if you were a businessman...you'd probably have the same scheme. Making the PS3 compatible with PS2 games does not earn them money. But putting them for sale on the online store will! It's all about milking us for all we have.

Its getting cold very quick in here.

Did MIcrosoft make the RROD so you would buy another Xbox? I mean on paper it makes sense.Jynxzor

I mean, if you were a businessman...you'd probably have the same scheme. Making the PS3 compatible with PS2 games does not earn them money. But putting them for sale on the online store will! It's all about milking us for all we have.

RJay123

I'd say its over 9000 ;)

Did MIcrosoft make the RROD so you would buy another Xbox? I mean on paper it makes sense.Jynxzor

I'd say its over 9000 ;)

SwagSurf

I think not making the PS3 b/c was a way of driving down the cost of making it as well as maintaining PS2 sales. Doctor-McNinja

Isn't it beneficial to the consumer to take out what would force them to pay extra for something they probably already have?

[QUOTE="SwagSurf"]

I'd say its over 9000 ;)

RJay123

OR to bring the price down so they can have consumers buying the products and make a profit which they are now? ;)

Isn't it beneficial to the consumer to take out what would force them to pay extra for something they probably already have?

hakanakumono

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Isn't it beneficial to the consumer to take out what would force them to pay extra for something they probably already have?

RJay123

yup it was a scam.....

Did MIcrosoft make the RROD so you would buy another Xbox? I mean on paper it makes sense.Jynxzor

Did MIcrosoft make the RROD so you would buy another Xbox? I mean on paper it makes sense.Jynxzor

Yea sure they did, spending billions to fix the problem and losing buyers in the future were what they wanted to do.

[QUOTE="Jynxzor"]Did MIcrosoft make the RROD so you would buy another Xbox? I mean on paper it makes sense.PtothaWHAT

Yea sure they did, spending billions to fix the problem and losing buyers in the future were what they wanted to do.

Did MIcrosoft make the RROD so you would buy another Xbox? I mean on paper it makes sense.Jynxzor

Theyve only remade gow1,2 thats it.

Did MIcrosoft make the RROD so you would buy another Xbox? I mean on paper it makes sense.Jynxzor

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Isn't it beneficial to the consumer to take out what would force them to pay extra for something they probably already have?

RJay123

Because they don't have it working yet. PS2, like PS3 and Sega Saturn, is pretty complicated and hard to emulate (decently) as a result.

Did MIcrosoft make the RROD so you would buy another Xbox? I mean on paper it makes sense.Jynxzor

they removed the emotion engine on graphic synaszor cus you ppl complained about the Price.

I heard that there are some ps3's that run ps2 games through an emulation of sorts but Sony removed this feature from current ps3's. SAGE_OF_FIRE

It's like this:

1st gen PS3's (20GB and 60GB) models had both the Emotion Engine (PS2 CPU) and Graphics Synthesizer (PS2 GPU) built into it. When you played a PS2 game, the game would run entirely on those chips and not on the PS3 CPU or GPU.

2nd gen PS3's (started with 80GB units) removed the Emotion Engine, but kept the GS. When you played a PS2 game, the PS3 CPU would emulate the EE but graphics still ran on the GS.

3rd gen PS3's (I think they started with the 160GB units) removed both chips. These can't play any PS2 games.

they removed the emotion engine on graphic synaszor cus you ppl complained about the Price.

13C

who wouldnt complain about the price it was 600US dollars thats crazy...

Isn't it beneficial to the consumer to take out what would force them to pay extra for something they probably already have?

hakanakumono

Exactly, if you have PS2 games, you have a PS2 already, No need to bundle the ps2 EE in the PS3. take it out and save costs. sorta like the card readers.

This is stupid..I'm not buying any of my PS2 games over again.

Unless SOCOM 2 is released in HD (trophies optional) I won't bother buying anything. What a ripoff. at least with Xbox Originals you deserved to get ripped off if you were too lazy/stubborn to go get it for $5 or less at GameStop.

[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"]I heard that there are some ps3's that run ps2 games through an emulation of sorts but Sony removed this feature from current ps3's. Teufelhuhn

It's like this:

1st gen PS3's (20GB and 60GB) models had both the Emotion Engine (PS2 CPU) and Graphics Synthesizer (PS2 GPU) built into it. When you played a PS2 game, the game would run entirely on those chips and not on the PS3 CPU or GPU.

2nd gen PS3's (started with 80GB units) removed the Emotion Engine, but kept the GS. When you played a PS2 game, the PS3 CPU would emulate the EE but graphics still ran on the GS.

3rd gen PS3's (I think they started with the 160GB units) removed both chips. These can't play any PS2 games.

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Isn't it beneficial to the consumer to take out what would force them to pay extra for something they probably already have?

Blinblingthing

Exactly, if you have PS2 games, you have a PS2 already, No need to bundle the ps2 EE in the PS3. take it out and save costs. sorta like the card readers.

Yeah, so let me just hook up all 20 systems I have!

It's much more convenient to has a mess of wires and systems all over the place rather than just having 3-4 systems set up.

[QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Isn't it beneficial to the consumer to take out what would force them to pay extra for something they probably already have?

ThePRAssassin

Exactly, if you have PS2 games, you have a PS2 already, No need to bundle the ps2 EE in the PS3. take it out and save costs. sorta like the card readers.

Yeah, so let me just hook up all 20 systems I have!

It's much more convenient to has a mess of wires and systems all over the place rather than just having 3-4 systems set up.

Here's a novel idea: Put them away.

I mean, if you were a businessman...you'd probably have the same scheme. Making the PS3 compatible with PS2 games does not earn them money. But putting them for sale on the online store will! It's all about milking us for all we have.

RJay123

On the contrary "somewhat"...If they PS3 were bc I would buy some PS2 games still to this day. I would rather play them on the PS3 im going to get as on the 10 year old PS2 I have. So SONY would still make money. BUT they want to sell more PS2s to get them out of stock eventually. SO you either pay 300$ for a PS3 and dl PS2 games. OR spend 100$ on a PS2 and buy games.

They removed ps2 fucntionality from the ps3 in order to cut production costs in the slim model. And the ps2 is very hard to flat-out emulate (teH ceLLz has no hope when my core2 quad struggles, we saw proof of this with the mediocre compatibility list on teh last ps3 that tried to do it exclusively through software) so they went 'screw this'.

Alright, but there has got to be a way for the ps3 to emulate ps2 games completely without the need for either chip right? I even remember Sony mentioning it at one point. I think it would be a pretty cool Firmware update that added a feature like this.

SAGE_OF_FIRE

I'm guessing games like Mavel vs capcom 2 and GOW 1 and 2 are examples of this right?

[QUOTE="Jynxzor"]Did MIcrosoft make the RROD so you would buy another Xbox? I mean on paper it makes sense.Doctor-McNinja

Microsoft knows it's too big for such things to hurt its reputation big time, as people kept buying 360s long after the RRoD problem was known, as well as a problem with the console damaging discs. Microsoft eventually gave in with warranties, but at least with the disc scratching they initially just recognised the problem in some individual countries, because they could outweigh the bad publicity with new console profits in other countries.

I'm not saying it's necessarily true, but it's certainly possible. It has been happening in the car industry for a long time, and a company like Microsoft could certainly get away with this. People will keep buying 360s even if they fell apart after a standard period of two years.

I have no doubt they removed PS2 compatability once they realized the PS3 wasn't selling much or making them money, but the PS2 was still selling crazy.

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]

[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"]I heard that there are some ps3's that run ps2 games through an emulation of sorts but Sony removed this feature from current ps3's. SAGE_OF_FIRE

It's like this:

1st gen PS3's (20GB and 60GB) models had both the Emotion Engine (PS2 CPU) and Graphics Synthesizer (PS2 GPU) built into it. When you played a PS2 game, the game would run entirely on those chips and not on the PS3 CPU or GPU.

2nd gen PS3's (started with 80GB units) removed the Emotion Engine, but kept the GS. When you played a PS2 game, the PS3 CPU would emulate the EE but graphics still ran on the GS.

3rd gen PS3's (I think they started with the 160GB units) removed both chips. These can't play any PS2 games.

I have no doubt they removed PS2 compatability once they realized the PS3 wasn't selling much or making them money, but the PS2 was still selling crazy.

Pixel-Pirate

I'm pretty damn bitter about their decision to dump the PS2 support. Still waiting for a FW update with a PS2 emulator or something.

I find it amazing that the Wii is the only console this gen with full backwards compatability. I'd honestly much rather have backwards compatability over online. Especially since recent consoles seem to break alot more often than the consoles of yesteryear, so it's nice to have a BC back up.