We don't need new consoles. We need better games.

There is no reason for Microsoft or Sony to even consider releasing a new console ever. The current consoles (with the exception of the Wii, perhaps) are completely fine. What can Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft offer consumers with new consoles? 1080p graphics without upscaling from 720p? Is that all they have these days? Is that all they got for the next generation of consoles? Has innovation finally ground to a halt?

I believe that better games should be the priority for this industry. The FPS shooter genre are starting to see diminishing returns. People are getting bored of the rehashed crap that gets tossed out onto the marketplace without another thought. There is a reason software sales have been down year over year. A new console will only increase that sense of fatigue amongst consumers.

If the console makers want to preserve console gaming, it is imperative that they start encouraging developers to use new design paradigms with which to generate fresh experiences for an audience that cares less and less about each new console release. The only reason the PS3 and the Xbox 360 succeeded was because they forced it down gamers throats. But, with alternatives to console gaming more of a viable option, Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo, and big video game publishers must offer a compelling argument why people should buy their new consoles and back these claims up with viable features. Flash new graphics will not be enough.

So you're saying that you want the exact same standards, same graphics, same annoyances, and no advance in gaming technology?

The consoles are absolutely maxed out, this notion of not needing new hardware for 5-6 years is absolutely ridiculous. There is now a big demand for the next generation of consoles both from developers and from consumers, therefore the companies must meet this demand by releasing one.

A new console will improve gameplay (such as the Wii U controller allowing new gaming experiences), much better aesthetics, and you'll be getting bigger and more detailed game worlds. Why would you possibly want to be stuck with the same piece of hardware forever?

look at my sig dude i have played like a bajillion hours of current gen games you may not care about next gen but i do.

plus a console makes up next to nothing when you look at total gaming costs.

what is $400 in hardware costs compared to the three or four grand i have blown on software this gen?

what kind of sense does it make to want to spend a crapload of money and not get the best looking and playing games i can get for that initial $400?

Better hardware on systems = more innovative/better games.RickTophen

except that didn't really happen this gen now did it?

wii older tech innovated more than PS3 & 360 higher tech but not necessarily =/= better games. PS3/360 better tech didn't really bring about innovative games either.

I agree with TC on better games and game quality.

[QUOTE="RickTophen"]Better hardware on systems = more innovative/better games.casharmy

except that didn't really happen this gen now did it?

wii older tech innovated more than PS3 & 360 higher tech but not necessarily =/= better games. PS3/360 better tech didn't really bring about innovative games either.

I agree with TC on better games and game quality.

Wait games are bad now?

Disagree. We definitely need new consoles

No, we need new consoles.

the "HD twins" can't even live up to the HD in their names, we need new hardware, and we need it now! Call JG Wentworth

There is no reason for Microsoft or Sony to even consider releasing a new console ever. The current consoles (with the exception of the Wii, perhaps) are completely fine. What can Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft offer consumers with new consoles? 1080p graphics without upscaling from 720p? Is that all they have these days? Is that all they got for the next generation of consoles? Has innovation finally ground to a halt?

I believe that better games should be the priority for this industry. The FPS shooter genre are starting to see diminishing returns. People are getting bored of the rehashed crap that gets tossed out onto the marketplace without another thought. There is a reason software sales have been down year over year. A new console will only increase that sense of fatigue amongst consumers.

If the console makers want to preserve console gaming, it is imperative that they start encouraging developers to use new design paradigms with which to generate fresh experiences for an audience that cares less and less about each new console release. The only reason the PS3 and the Xbox 360 succeeded was because they forced it down gamers throats. But, with alternatives to console gaming more a viable option, Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo, and big video game publishers must offer a compelling argument why people should buy their new consoles and back these claims up with viable features.

The_Capitalist

I desperately want new consoles. I really feel like it's past time already. I remember loving the jump from gen to gen when I was younger, hopefully I still will.

Damn. It's like the people who say this have never experienced a transition into another gen. It's supposed to happen every five years, if anything, were late. D4W1L4H

We need new consoles more than the PSvita needs a killer app.

The 360 needs better games. Ps3 has been doing just fine. Best line up of exclusives this gem.IBeVanquished

Yeah... Infamous, Resistance, R&C, Hyperdimension Neptunia, Socom, Ar tonelico, Motorstorm, Killzone and Last Rebellion are some heavy hitters. :roll:

Let's be real:

Sony = GT/Uncharted/LBP/GOW

MS = Halo/Fable/Gears/Forza

Nintendo = Mario/SSB/Zelda/Metroid/DK

The rest of their exclusives are pretty much irrelevant in the eyes of many consumers. Multi-plats dominated this gen.

No, we need new consoles.

Developers have to bend over to much to get basic things that are up to our ever increasing standards out of the consoles. They need some more and faster ram to relieve bottlenecks, faster read/write speeds from the disk (or mandatory harddrive installations), some more CPU power, and some even more flexible operating systems.

The FPS shooter genre are starting to see diminishing returns. People are getting bored of the rehashed crap that gets tossed out onto the marketplace without another thought. .

The_Capitalist

well personally, i dont think we need new consoles for at least 2 more years.

We need both...

Im sorry but have you seen the load times in most current gen games? It's getting so bad they are starting to put gimmicks/mini games into the load screens now to prevent players from getting bored.

My biggest hope is reduced load times and better A.I. , graphics would just be a bonus.

Better hardware on systems = more innovative/better games.RickTophen

The Wii says hello.

So does the DS.

Whether or not we need new consoles at the present moment is debatable. Needing better games really isn't and I can totally get behind what the OP is saying. There are too many games being released that when you take away all the context/setting and break it down to it's core components are all just the same thing. There's a stark absence of new and interesting gameplay mechanics being introduced into box games. I think that'll change in the future as the xbla games garner more success and attention but as it stands right now, the consoles we have are capable of amazing things but they're being wasted on the next all too similar game that you feel like you've played 5 times before.

There is no reason for Microsoft or Sony to even consider releasing a new console ever. The current consoles (with the exception of the Wii, perhaps) are completely fine. What can Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft offer consumers with new consoles? 1080p graphics without upscaling from 720p? Is that all they have these days? Is that all they got for the next generation of consoles? Has innovation finally ground to a halt?

I believe that better games should be the priority for this industry. The FPS shooter genre are starting to see diminishing returns. People are getting bored of the rehashed crap that gets tossed out onto the marketplace without another thought. There is a reason software sales have been down year over year. A new console will only increase that sense of fatigue amongst consumers.

If the console makers want to preserve console gaming, it is imperative that they start encouraging developers to use new design paradigms with which to generate fresh experiences for an audience that cares less and less about each new console release. The only reason the PS3 and the Xbox 360 succeeded was because they forced it down gamers throats. But, with alternatives to console gaming more of a viable option, Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo, and big video game publishers must offer a compelling argument why people should buy their new consoles and back these claims up with viable features. Flash new graphics will not be enough.

The_Capitalist

If there have been no new consoles since the 80s, we still been playing Pacman becuase it was additive. :P

We need both...

mitu123

Better hardware on systems = more innovative/better games.RickTophen

This is not a true statement. Chrono Trigger could have been made on the first gen Game Boy and it would still be awesome.

We need both.

I can already imagine a game with the freedom of Skyrim, no indoor/outdoor loading times, character models of Uncharted, special effects of Gears, euphoria animations of RDR and running at 1080p/60fps :o

well personally, i dont think we need new consoles for at least 2 more years.

munkeypoo45

Well it will be nearly 2 years before we see the next xbox.

I would also like a console that would last forever. But then I would get tired.

Both > just one. :P

TBH, if the 3 console makers plan on launching only marginally more powerful consoles :o save your time & money cause I, and I think millions of other will be doing the same. :?

We need better hardware to get bigger & more dynamic gameworlds, better physics and AI etc. 2013 can't come soon enough.

True that. What good are better graphics if all the big games are getting butchered? For example they're turning the new Hitman into a generic, cover-based 3rd person shooter. Screw that.

So you're saying that you want the exact same standards, same graphics, same annoyances, and no advance in gaming technology?

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A new console will improve gameplay

XVision84

That's not necessarily true.

I still play my PS2 and my Dreamcast more than I play my PS3 and 360. The games were better back then.

Even with the limitations the PS2 and Dreamcast had, they managed to make really fun games that still hold up well today.

The FPS shooter genre are starting to see diminishing returns. People are getting bored of the rehashed crap that gets tossed out onto the marketplace without another thought.

The_Capitalist

Are you only realizing this NOW? Every shooter since the start of this generation of consoles has either been a Call of Duty clone or Gears of War clone.

But I do agree with your point. These re-hashed shooters are SO BORING. Games developers need to hop in a time machine and go back to the previous generation to see what they did right.

There was a lot more variety in the last generation, it seemed like people were more creative. Today, developers are too scared to make a game that's different because it may not sell well.

Developers have everything they need on the PS3 and the 360 to make amazing and original games. But they waste all that potential on re-hashed shooters. So there's no need to make new consoles, you can't really ask for much more. Developers just need to better utilize their resources.

You can be content with nearly 7 year old hardware as the lowest common denominator for the industry, if you want. Doesn't make it any less foolish.

wrong.. we need new console considering the pc gaming capabilities but the features and content should be day apart to that of its previous console so, 20 or 30 time more powerful doesnt matter....

[QUOTE="RickTophen"]Better hardware on systems = more innovative/better games.NeonNinja

The Wii says hello.

So does the DS.