WE have an Ao rating why not use it.

Adults only 18+. Why dont devs forget about the stupied M rating and do whatever they want. Its 1 year. (we all know 17 yearolds will play them anyway)

Its one year. This would also shut the politicians up

Because some game stores don't stock them, I think. It's also hard to find a publisher, I believe.

And then there's the fact that they can't be on consoles, as said above.

Each console company has a policy against it on their console/handheld. AO games are PC only.

ITS ONE YEAR. I dont know one 17 yearold who would change there gaming prefs beacuse of 1 year

Good question. I think it's mainly due to gamestop, their policy of not selling any of them(yes some do exist) discourages all the devs from making it.

I hope in some point though a game arrives with an AO rating that is so artistic and so good that retailers would be stupid to not sell it, breaking a long held tradition. It's like the film industry in a way, when that happens it'll be a breakthrough I'm sure.

What's the difference between AO and a normal 18 rating that we get in the UK?bdum_pshhh

It's hard to publish, market and sell them.

The 3 console makers won't allow an AO game on their console, so it would have to be a PC exclusive.

and many stores won't sell AO games, so the company would never earn any money.

ITS ONE YEAR. I dont know one 17 yearold who would change there gaming prefs beacuse of 1 year

PrinceofSarcasm

ITS ONE YEAR. I dont know one 17 yearold who would change there gaming prefs beacuse of 1 year

PrinceofSarcasm

Complain to the console makers.

Because Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo won't allow AO games on their platform.AAllxxjjnn

This is why.

Many major retailers won't stock AO games, like WalMart and Target.

Because Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo won't allow AO games on their platform.AAllxxjjnn

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Because Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo won't allow AO games on their platform.doomsoth

[QUOTE="doomsoth"]

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Because Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo won't allow AO games on their platform.Cherokee_Jack

Each console company has a policy against it on their console/handheld. AO games are PC only.

Tiefster

Really? I have an AO game on PS One. And yes, it`s porn. Just don`t ask how I got it.

[QUOTE="Tiefster"]

Each console company has a policy against it on their console/handheld. AO games are PC only.

JonnyEarthquake

Really? I have an AO game on PS One. And yes, it`s porn. Just don`t ask how I got it.

ITS ONE YEAR. I dont know one 17 yearold who would change there gaming prefs beacuse of 1 year

PrinceofSarcasm

[QUOTE="bdum_pshhh"]What's the difference between AO and a normal 18 rating that we get in the UK?Cherokee_Jack

Because Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo won't allow AO games on their platform.AAllxxjjnn

Answered on the first reply.

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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Because Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo won't allow AO games on their platform.Cherokee_Jack

You do realize that Manhunt 2 was going to be deemed AO because of the violence, not because of sexuality.

It's a form of self-censorship, which as per usual has its roots in corporate interests and in the name of profits. There's nothing to suggest that an AO game couldn't be commercially successful if done right and with taste, but the fallout with the perceived notion of gaming still as an infantile hobby would be damaging.

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Because Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo won't allow AO games on their platform.doomsoth

All major retailers forbid the sale of AO games on their shelves. They don't feel the need to tell me what movies I can and can not buy (R, 18A and "Unrated" films are always scattered amongst PG and G rated ones)... but when it comes to games, they feel like they need to lord over my right as an adult to choose freely.

It is because gaming still has the stigma "games are for kids" despite the average gamer age being 33 and the majority of the market leaning towards the adult crowd.

I would actually be with them on that kind of arguement. Why would I like it if porn games are as accessible as Super Mario Galaxy at Best Buy?lebanese_boy

What's the difference between AO and a normal 18 rating that we get in the UK?bdum_pshhh

who needs AO anyway?


mutilated corpses, decapitated heads and blood -> mature rating

the F, S and the very forbidden N word -> mature rating

womens naked breasts and backsides -> mature rating


if you want to see more female nudity or male nudity theres always other media

Because Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo won't allow AO games on their platform.AAllxxjjnn

Because you're the big 3 bi*ches and you have to settle for what they allow you to play.

Simple as that. Harsh but true.

who needs AO anyway?


mutilated corpses, decapitated heads and blood -> mature rating

the F, S and the very forbidden N word -> mature rating

womens naked breasts and backsides -> mature rating

Rhubarb9

blowing up naked chicks as i ride my mutated horse shouting racist swears at starving slaves and taking lots of drugs. sounds like the game for me :D

The main reason why there are very little AO games is because Jack Thompson is really annoying, and the last thing anyone wants to do, is listen to Jack Thompson

[QUOTE="doomsoth"]

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Because Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo won't allow AO games on their platform.lebanese_boy

I would modify the "Adults Only" rating's age to 21+, since most people are supossed to become adult both biologically & psychologically at that age. Even so, as far as I've read, gaming consoles barely have titles rated "Ao" (SONY claims they don't allow for "Ao" games in the PS family). I guess most of those games are found at sex shops, mostly for PCs.

[QUOTE="lebanese_boy"][QUOTE="doomsoth"] Yup, all of them are pansies and Target, Walmart, etc. are included in being pansies. Some parents are morons as well as government officials. Pile all of that together and you get the lack of AO games.

doomsoth

The thing with this is that the only major differenes between "M" ratings & "Ao" ratings is that "Ao" ratings contain much more explicit sex than "M" ratings (they're mostly violent & gory).

[QUOTE="doomsoth"][QUOTE="lebanese_boy"][QUOTE="doomsoth"] Yup, all of them are pansies and Target, Walmart, etc. are included in being pansies. Some parents are morons as well as government officials. Pile all of that together and you get the lack of AO games.

DragonxanderPR

The thing with this is that the only major differenes between "M" ratings & "Ao" ratings is that "Ao" ratings contain much more explicit sex than "M" ratings (they're mostly violent & gory).

"Titles rated AO (Adults Only) have content that should only be played by persons 18 years and older. Titles in this category may include prolonged scenes of intense violence and/or graphic sexual content and nudity."

Straight from the horse's mouth. Yet, you guys continue to state that it's only sexual material that gets the AO rating. *rolls eyes*

Adults only 18+. Why dont devs forget about the stupied M rating and do whatever they want. Its 1 year. (we all know 17 yearolds will play them anyway)

Its one year. This would also shut the politicians up

PrinceofSarcasm

Who cares? AO games suck 100% of the time, as developers use the sheer amounts of blood gore, and sex to hide poor gameplay. If a game starts of as an AO game, and is good, then the devs will take out some of the more adult content. I.e Fahrenheit, San Andreas.

I once played a game for the PS1 called Thrill Kill, it was a brutal poorly designed brawler, the only fun came from the gore at the end of the battles.

Who cares? AO games suck 100% of the time, as developers use the sheer amounts of blood gore, and sex to hide poor gameplay. If a game starts of as an AO game, and is good, then the devs will take out some of the more adult content. I.e Fahrenheit, San Andreas.

I once played a game for the PS1 called Thrill Kill, it was a brutal poorly designed brawler, the only fun came from the gore at the end of the battles.

-Snooze-

Plus, there really haven't been very many AO games to begin with: link.

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

Who cares? AO games suck 100% of the time, as developers use the sheer amounts of blood gore, and sex to hide poor gameplay. If a game starts of as an AO game, and is good, then the devs will take out some of the more adult content. I.e Fahrenheit, San Andreas.

I once played a game for the PS1 called Thrill Kill, it was a brutal poorly designed brawler, the only fun came from the gore at the end of the battles.

doomsoth

Plus, there really haven't been very many AO games to begin with: link.

So, to summarize:

• Porn
• Indigo Prophecy Director's Cut (for the sex scene)
• Porn
• GTA: San Andreas (for Hot Coffee)
• Porn
• Leisure Suit Larry: MCL Uncensored (for obvious reasons)
• Porn
• Thrill Kill (for violence)
• Porn