we should redefine what a flop is

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#1 RadTad62
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from my understanding when a game flops its hyped AAAA and gets AAA or AA to me a flop is when a game is hyped AAA and doesn't get one A what do you think?

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#2 mystervj
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flop=popularity X disappointment even a small disappointment can generate a huge flop if it's popular enough :P
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#3 theuncharted34
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flop is fine the way it is.

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#4 LegatoSkyheart
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A Game Flops when it doesn't meet the Hype in Scores and Sales.

If a Game Flops in Scores but doesn't in Sales then it only Flopped Critically.

If a Game Flops in Sales but doesn't in Scores then it only Flopped Financially.

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#5 tamabeast04
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honestly, flop should mean whether it failed to make development money back... but i give up on trying to be a voice of reason...

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#6 cainetao11
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honestly, flop should mean whether it failed to make development money back... but i give up on trying to be a voice of reason...

tamabeast04
that sounds like the definition of a film flop. It is a thing in SW for teh ownage. It can be so stupid at times I'll say that. Like in Alan Wake's case or Heavy Rain's. Both good experiences to me, but thrown around by fanboys like real insults.
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#7 spookykid143
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The definition of a flop is GT5:P

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#8 waltefmoney
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honestly, flop should mean whether it failed to make development money back... but i give up on trying to be a voice of reason...

tamabeast04

And how will you know how big the development cost was?

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#9 theuncharted34
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The definition of a flop is GT5:P

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eh. too human.

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#10 funsohng
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A Game Flops when it doesn't meet the Hype in Scores and Sales.

If a Game Flops in Scores but doesn't in Sales then it only Flopped Critically.

If a Game Flops in Sales but doesn't in Scores then it only Flopped Financially.

LegatoSkyheart
and if you flop both in scores and sales, double flop?
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#11 theuncharted34
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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

A Game Flops when it doesn't meet the Hype in Scores and Sales.

If a Game Flops in Scores but doesn't in Sales then it only Flopped Critically.

If a Game Flops in Sales but doesn't in Scores then it only Flopped Financially.

funsohng

and if you flop both in scores and sales, double flop?

no, magikarp splash.

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#12 GreenGoblin2099
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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

A Game Flops when it doesn't meet the Hype in Scores and Sales.

If a Game Flops in Scores but doesn't in Sales then it only Flopped Critically.

If a Game Flops in Sales but doesn't in Scores then it only Flopped Financially.

funsohng

and if you flop both in scores and sales, double flop?

Haven't we got too many terms as it is?? :?

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#13 OreoMilkshake
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Let's vote on it. I say No.
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#14 LegatoSkyheart
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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

A Game Flops when it doesn't meet the Hype in Scores and Sales.

If a Game Flops in Scores but doesn't in Sales then it only Flopped Critically.

If a Game Flops in Sales but doesn't in Scores then it only Flopped Financially.

funsohng

and if you flop both in scores and sales, double flop?

A Flop is a Flop, Even if it Flops Critically or Financially or Both.

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#15 UCF_Knight
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Nay, a flop is good as is.
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#16 Blixxed
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A flop is anything under the hype.
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#17 GreenGoblin2099
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We should redefine "Jacket King" it's not quite clear to me...

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#18 LegatoSkyheart
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We should redefine "Jacket King" it's not quite clear to me...

GreenGoblin2099

Your Avatar is now the New Jacket King.

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#19 theuncharted34
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We should redefine "Jacket King" it's not quite clear to me...

GreenGoblin2099

isn't alan wake the jacket and cloth fiber king?

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#20 UCF_Knight
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[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

We should redefine "Jacket King" it's not quite clear to me...

LegatoSkyheart

Your Avatar is now the New Jacket King.

:o

All hail the New Jacket King!

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#21 GreenGoblin2099
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[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

We should redefine "Jacket King" it's not quite clear to me...

LegatoSkyheart

Your Avatar is now the New Jacket King.

**** yeah... hey ma look at me now!!! 8)

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#22 UCF_Knight
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[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

We should redefine "Jacket King" it's not quite clear to me...

theuncharted34

isn't alan wake the jacket and cloth fiber king?

I just started playing Alan Wake, coincidentally, and he does have a pretty slick jacket. :P
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#23 Raymundo_Manuel
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We should redefine "Jacket King" it's not quite clear to me...

GreenGoblin2099

I wear the jacket king :)

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#24 LordQuorthon
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If the game in question is an exclusive for the platform a system warrior "hates", said system warrior must be always alert, save screenshots from all the official and unofficial hype threads related to that game. If the game gets a score that's 0.5 below the most voted hype score, then it is his duty to make dozens of threads and hijack other threads, reminding those bastards that chose to buy that other horrible platform that their exclusive game FLOPPED.

That's how it works.

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#25 vincent380
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honestly, flop should mean whether it failed to make development money back... but i give up on trying to be a voice of reason...

tamabeast04
Ive always felt this way
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#26 theuncharted34
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[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

We should redefine "Jacket King" it's not quite clear to me...

Raymundo_Manuel

I wear the jacket king :)

your jacket king is pre rendered, and therefore doesn't count :P

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#27 waltefmoney
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[QUOTE="tamabeast04"]

honestly, flop should mean whether it failed to make development money back... but i give up on trying to be a voice of reason...

vincent380

Ive always felt this way

And how are you going to know it managed to do it? Are you just going to guess based on sales, with no clue of how much the actual development cost was?

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#28 johnlennon28
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gt5 flopped, get over it
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#29 gamefan67
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Flop equals not meeting expectations. point. blank. period.
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#30 Meowmixxvi
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gt5 flopped, get over itjohnlennon28
your sig is a flop.
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#31 vincent380
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[QUOTE="vincent380"][QUOTE="tamabeast04"]

honestly, flop should mean whether it failed to make development money back... but i give up on trying to be a voice of reason...

waltefmoney

Ive always felt this way

And how are you going to know it managed to do it? Are you just going to guess based on sales, with no clue of how much the actual development cost was?

*shrugs* I just know in other message boards i go to in terms of other things like music they usually call things a flop when it has under sold or didnt push any units. not because it didnt meet a certain "hype" in terms of a review. but to each is own
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#32 HarlockJC
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Let's vote on it. I say No.OreoMilkshake
It would not matter how the vote is. System wars does not like change. Do you have any idea how many times people have tied to change the nicknames?
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#33 OreoMilkshake
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[QUOTE="OreoMilkshake"]Let's vote on it. I say No.HarlockJC
It would not matter how the vote is. System wars does not like change. Do you have any idea how many times people have tied to change the nicknames?

I wasn't being serious. I can only imagine though. :P
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#34 Leo-Magic
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from my understanding when a game flops its hyped AAAA and gets AAA or AA to me a flop is when a game is hyped AAA and doesn't get one A what do you think?

RadTad62
I think GT5 had just set a new standard for it.
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#36 walkingdream
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Biggest flops: Lair, Too Human, Killzone 1, GT5, Zelda.... Normal Flops: Alan Wake, Uncharted 1 (don't kill me lol i think it was hyped AAA wasnt it?), Mass Effect 1
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#37 brennan7777
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Biggest flops: Lair, Too Human, Killzone 1, GT5, Zelda.... Normal Flops: Alan Wake, Uncharted 1 (don't kill me lol i think it was hyped AAA wasnt it?), Mass Effect 1walkingdream
Wasn't Epic Mickey a pretty big flop?

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#38 waltefmoney
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Biggest flops: Lair, Too Human, Killzone 1, GT5, Zelda.... Normal Flops: Alan Wake, Uncharted 1 (don't kill me lol i think it was hyped AAA wasnt it?), Mass Effect 1walkingdream

You forgot Haze.