We should re-vote GS only or Meta scores for SW.

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#1 SpideR_CentS
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We should revote on this. Back when we voted the first time Gerstmann and the others were still reviewing. GS scores have been flakey for awhile. Why not revote just to see if we should be using Meta scores of GS scores in SW ?!

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#2 mynameisdumb
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I've agreed with that idea since I first got here, like four or five years ago. I vote Metacritic (or actually I like gamerankings better, but either is better than relying on JUST gamespot).
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#3 SpruceCaboose
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Why don't we just go with Anarchy, which is the actually winner of every vote had on SW since at least I joined?
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#4 yoyo462001
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im with anarchy on this one.
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#5 Floppy_Jim
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I'd rather just stick to using GS. I wonder why this is being brought up again, did a game flop recently or something?
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#6 DaBrainz
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How about we only use personal opinion. And you have to at least played the game before you express your opinion.
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#7 shutdown_202
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No it just wont work. GR and metacritic are variables for example a game can be AAA one week and then 2 months later drop down to A. The only way it would work is if we waited a year (minimum) to see what score a game has. Trust me, just using GS is the best method and although we may not always agree on the review, it creates a standard for sytem wars to use. Getting rid of gamespot, we would have threads such as "Lair is AAAA because of a SDF review!!". thats a bit silly but you get the gist of it.

The only instance when Meta or other review sources can be used is if GS havent reviewed the game yet or wont.

and not to sound like a broken record but we're on the GS forums so we use GS reviews. If you want to use other sources then go to other forums.

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#8 tmatte
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ITT: Lemmings flip-flopping to not wanting to use GS scores.

Cows flip-flopping to want to use GS scores.

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#9 bdum_pshhh
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For the purpose of SYSTEM WARS (the ownage game), we should stick to GS scores, otherwise metacritic it is.
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#10 Gun-Unit
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Whether or not you don't agree with gamespots reviews,i fully disagree because thoses sites have forums also,use them instead.
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#11 tek91
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stop complaning guys GS has been spot on giving horrible excuses for games bad scores like halo wars, Lair and ochanbara and giving good games good scores like MGS4, LBP, Dead Space, Halo 3, Bioshock.

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#12 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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No we shouldn't.

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stop complaning guys GS has been spot on givinghorrible excuses for gamesgames bad scores like halo wars, Lairand ochanbara and giving good games good scores like MGS4, LBP, Dead Space, Halo 3, Bioshock.

tek91
since jeff, ryan and the rest left gamespot, the scores have been inconsistent, when compared to other sources GS reviews seem to have been all over the place in the last year.
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#14 SpruceCaboose
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How about we only use personal opinion. And you have to at least played the game before you express your opinion.DaBrainz
That was the premise of the Anarchy vote.
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#15 Tekkenloving
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lol did the cows cry so much when uncharted got way underscored
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stop complaning guys GS has been spot on giving horrible excuses for games bad scores like halo wars, Lair and ochanbara and giving good games good scores like MGS4, LBP, Dead Space, Halo 3, Bioshock.

tek91
If you think Halo Wars is a horrible excuse for a game (with a Metacritic score of 83 ATM? and even a GS score of "fair") then I would argue your bias is showing.
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lol did the cows cry so much when uncharted got way underscoredTekkenloving
Not Uncharted, but most people were upset with the terrible, poorly written review that was Ratchet & Clank. I would know, I was one of them.
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stop complaning guys GS has been spot on giving horrible excuses for games bad scores like halo wars, Lair and ochanbara and giving good games good scores like MGS4, LBP, Dead Space, Halo 3, Bioshock.

tek91

I can guarantee that you didn't even play Halo Wars. :|

Metacritic = 83%

Oh my god, what a horrible excuse for a game! :cry:

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[QUOTE="Tekkenloving"]lol did the cows cry so much when uncharted got way underscoredSpruceCaboose
Not Uncharted, but most people were upset with the terrible, poorly written review that was Ratchet & Clank. I would know, I was one of them.

Yeah, Uncharted met the AA hype if I remember correctly. But R & C flopped massively resulting in screams of "Teh bias!!!!!" from the bovine. Good times :lol:
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#20 whackedjob213
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With Ratchet Clank the review simply amde no sense. He was ragging on the premise of a good game which is variety. Halo Wars probably should have gotten a 7 but that's hardly relevant. Unless we all switch to GR forums we'll use GS scores
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Lol lems ....... 360 suffering flop one by one and they can`t take it anymore....... And PS3 starting to receive AAA games and they can`t take it anymore too ..........
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[QUOTE="yoyo462001"][QUOTE="tek91"]

stop complaning guys GS has been spot on givinghorrible excuses for gamesgames bad scores like halo wars, Lairand ochanbara and giving good games good scores like MGS4, LBP, Dead Space, Halo 3, Bioshock.

since jeff, ryan and the rest left gamespot, the scores have been inconsistent, when compared to other sources GS reviews seem to have been all over the place in the last year.

I disagree with some of GS's reviews but people are bring this up because of Halo Wars which i actually agree with GS on.RA3 gotten a 7.0 and if Halo Wars had a higher scored it would have been a insult.It would be like Saints Row 2 scoring higher then GTA4.
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#23 clembo1990
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There are tonnes of crap reviewing sites, will that really make it better? I say, for PC Games trust PC Gamer, they give the best scores. The rest, no idea.
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#24 tek91
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[QUOTE="tek91"]

stop complaning guys GS has been spot on giving horrible excuses for games bad scores like halo wars, Lair and ochanbara and giving good games good scores like MGS4, LBP, Dead Space, Halo 3, Bioshock.

SpruceCaboose

If you think Halo Wars is a horrible excuse for a game (with a Metacritic score of 83 ATM? and even a GS score of "fair") then I would argue your bias is showing.

The games too short the covenant is not playable in campaign it got small unit count and map which limit the scale of battles and hardly any multiplayer.

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#25 SpruceCaboose
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="tek91"]

stop complaning guys GS has been spot on giving horrible excuses for games bad scores like halo wars, Lair and ochanbara and giving good games good scores like MGS4, LBP, Dead Space, Halo 3, Bioshock.

tek91

If you think Halo Wars is a horrible excuse for a game (with a Metacritic score of 83 ATM? and even a GS score of "fair") then I would argue your bias is showing.

The games too short the covenant is not playable in campaign it got small unit count and map which limit the scale of battles and hardly any multiplayer.

Uh huh. What in that, or any review site's opinions, gives you a "horrible excuse for a game"?
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#26 tek91
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I bet you if halo wars were to score a 90 here everyone would be saying how great GS is and how precise they are lol

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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="tek91"]

stop complaning guys GS has been spot on giving horrible excuses for games bad scores like halo wars, Lair and ochanbara and giving good games good scores like MGS4, LBP, Dead Space, Halo 3, Bioshock.

tek91

If you think Halo Wars is a horrible excuse for a game (with a Metacritic score of 83 ATM? and even a GS score of "fair") then I would argue your bias is showing.

The games too short the covenant is not playable in campaign it got small unit count and map which limit the scale of battles and hardly any multiplayer.

1. A lot of games are short, like BioShock and Dead Space but apparently they got good scores.
2. Are the covenant ever playable in any Halo game?
3. Lol It's a console RTS, what do you expect?

Like I said, you didn't even play the game.

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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="Tekkenloving"]lol did the cows cry so much when uncharted got way underscoredFloppy_Jim
Not Uncharted, but most people were upset with the terrible, poorly written review that was Ratchet & Clank. I would know, I was one of them.

Yeah, Uncharted met the AA hype if I remember correctly. But R & C flopped massively resulting in screams of "Teh bias!!!!!" from the bovine. Good times :lol:

well I don't know what the hype here was but uncharted is the best action/adventure game this gen and definitively got way underscored
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Why are you people on Gamespot if you think their scores are unreasonable? I certainly wouldn't stick around a site that I thought had zero credibility when it came to reviews. Hmmm...
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#30 SpruceCaboose
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I bet you if halo wars were to score a 90 here everyone would be saying how great GS is and how precise they are lol

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If you can find me a post of mine, any post, since Kane and Lynch where I said anything nice about a GS review, please feel free to point it out.
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#31 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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Why are you people on Gamespot if you think their scores are unreasonable? I certainly wouldn't stick around a site that I thought had zero credibility when it came to reviews. Hmmm...
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The forums and fanboys are the best part in GameSpot. :D
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#32 clembo1990
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Why are you people on Gamespot if you think their scores are unreasonable? I certainly wouldn't stick around a site that I thought had zero credibility when it came to reviews. Hmmm...
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Nobody goes here for reviews any more, it's all about the forums.
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[QUOTE="Tekkenloving"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"] Not Uncharted, but most people were upset with the terrible, poorly written review that was Ratchet & Clank. I would know, I was one of them.

Yeah, Uncharted met the AA hype if I remember correctly. But R & C flopped massively resulting in screams of "Teh bias!!!!!" from the bovine. Good times :lol:

well I don't know what the hype here was but uncharted is the best action/adventure game this gen and definitively got way underscored

I agree, I think it's the best game of its type this gen. AAA in my book.
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#34 metalgear-solid
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Oh well, as long as you use Metacritic and not GameRankings.
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#35 SpruceCaboose
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Why are you people on Gamespot if you think their scores are unreasonable? I certainly wouldn't stick around a site that I thought had zero credibility when it came to reviews. Hmmm...
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The forum and some of the posters. Same thing I have said for years, but thanks for trying to pointing it out.
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[QUOTE="tek91"]

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"] If you think Halo Wars is a horrible excuse for a game (with a Metacritic score of 83 ATM? and even a GS score of "fair") then I would argue your bias is showing.Aljosa23

The games too short the covenant is not playable in campaign it got small unit count and map which limit the scale of battles and hardly any multiplayer.

1. A lot of games are short, like BioShock and Dead Space but apparently they got good scores.
2. Are the covenant ever playable in any Halo game?
3. Lol It's a console RTS, what do you expect?

Like I said, you didn't even play the game.

Thats because Bioshock was immersive and fresh I think Dead Space is overrated and that Silent Hill Homecoming is a better game and underrated. Now then Halo Wars is a good game I agree with igns review more.

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#37 angry_fork
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Sounds like TC's butt-hurt over Halo Wars.
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#38 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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Thats because Bioshock was immersive and fresh I think Dead Space is overrated and that Silent Hill Homecoming is a better game and underrated. Now then Halo Wars is a good game I agree with igns review more.

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BioShock was immersive but not fresh, it's a little overrated in my opinion. Dead Space is hella overrated too, lol what a RE4 clone. Never played Homecoming though, SH games are too scary for me.
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[QUOTE="Foxhound_spy"]Lol lems ....... 360 suffering flop one by one and they can`t take it anymore....... And PS3 starting to receive AAA games and they can`t take it anymore too ..........

Agreed. PS3 owners have been feeling the floppage throughout 2007 and they had to deal with Gamespot scores. Now 360 owners are getting flop after flop and they're over here making topics about voting to use a different site :lol:
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#40 EPaul
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Everytime one's side(sheep,cows and lemmings) suffers a huge flop this topic comes up......

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#41 black_tempest
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Maybe Gamespot should hire a steady staff instead of unknown freelance writers!
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[QUOTE="Foxhound_spy"]Lol lems ....... 360 suffering flop one by one and they can`t take it anymore....... And PS3 starting to receive AAA games and they can`t take it anymore too ..........angry_fork
Agreed. PS3 fanboys have been feeling the floppage throughout 2007 and they had to deal with Gamespot scores. Now 360 fanboys are getting flop after flop and they're over here making topics about voting to use a different site :lol:

Fixed.
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#43 whatisazerg
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I don't care which we use, using GS reviews is more fun and dramatic.... its fun to own fanboys with. Metacritic would be way more accurate, but then there would be less ownage, where's the fun in that..... lol.
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#44 Sk00by_Sn4x
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No we shouldn't, there's no need to. We're on GS we use GS scores. It's as simple as that.
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#45 nintendoman562
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I say we should go by player scores. There is no way people on system wars can rig those scores.
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#46 CreepyBacon
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Do as i do and make your own mind up. It works out a lot better, for example i know MGS4 is fairly average and i know GEOW2 multiplayer sucks.

Listen to the reviewers and they'll tell you otherwise. Problem is - there wrong. I'm not.

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I don't care which we use, using GS reviews is more fun and dramatic.... its fun to own fanboys with. Metacritic would be way more accurate, but then there would be less ownage, where's the fun in that..... lol.whatisazerg
Bingo! This guy wins the thread.
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#48 subrosian
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Attention - There is NO RULE on what review sites we use on GameSpot forums. NONE. The Anarchy Vote REMOVED the win conditions, and all official rules. In addition, you cannot EVER vote another rule into place. The anarchy-vote forever removed any official rules. Use whatever review sites you want, there are no rules saying you can't, no one can stop you.
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#49 tek91
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Seriously you guys need to move on the facts are halo wars flopped end of story, you can't go back in time sobetter luck with your next 360 game.

now you guys are thinking of using scores from other sites how desperate and someone even says using player scores yea so obamania can give fable 2 a 10 lol

just let it go halo wars flopping is not the end of the world.

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[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]

Thats because Bioshock was immersive and fresh I think Dead Space is overrated and that Silent Hill Homecoming is a better game and underrated. Now then Halo Wars is a good game I agree with igns review more.

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BioShock was immersive but not fresh, it's a little overrated in my opinion. Dead Space is hella overrated too, lol what a RE4 clone. Never played Homecoming though, SH games are too scary for me.

I actually thought that Homecoming was less scary then previous Silent Hills because you didn't really have to worry too much about dying (since you had lots of moves, weapons, and health drinks). You should give it a try.