well if the 360 is doomed then..............

There was a thread earlier today about EA possibly buying the Xbox brand (it was based off of a Neo-Gaf post), which makes more sense than MS just killing it when they're on the verge of finally being profitable. And can you really say Bioware andBizzare left? Both were always independent developers.

Edited for dyslexia.

the xbox brand will not go away this easilyi-lick-monkeys

All this talk about the Big 3 B's leaving MS for greener pastures ( bungie, bioware, bizzare) Got me thinking. I never seen the end of sega as a console maker. yet it happened. What if MS really is leaving the xbox brand? what if they actually plan to not make a successor to the 360? I wont lie, I would be heart broken. I would have to urge sony to re-design their controller. I would get to enjoy the games. As the makers would only have so many choices to make them on. But what get's me is MS is mum on all this rumor talk about them leaving the console buisness. Not one peep. I hope Im wrong. I hope it's just a major re-organization. Either way PGR will see PS3. Bungie will see PS3. Not to mention the creators of Mass Effect will now make games on PS3. I find it sad that MS allowed this to happen at the time they are viewed the best option in the industry. Either way I will always love the Xbox brand. I really hope MS saves it. If not, the gaming must still go on. oh well.akuma303x

unlike sega, Microsoft has the money and potential. They have put too much into the games business to back out, and also created a HUGE fan base, they have the best software on console but bad hardware, even if they BIG Bs leave there will be new ones coming and there are other great games that are still 1st and 2nd party. Also the companies leaving don't mean that they will suddenly start working on ps3. Xbox 360 is too good not to have a successor.tacubano

[QUOTE="akuma303x"]All this talk about the Big 3 B's leaving MS for greener pastures ( bungie, bioware, bizzare) Got me thinking. I never seen the end of sega as a console maker. yet it happened. What if MS really is leaving the xbox brand? what if they actually plan to not make a successor to the 360? I wont lie, I would be heart broken. I would have to urge sony to re-design their controller. I would get to enjoy the games. As the makers would only have so many choices to make them on. But what get's me is MS is mum on all this rumor talk about them leaving the console buisness. Not one peep. I hope Im wrong. I hope it's just a major re-organization. Either way PGR will see PS3. Bungie will see PS3. Not to mention the creators of Mass Effect will now make games on PS3. I find it sad that MS allowed this to happen at the time they are viewed the best option in the industry. Either way I will always love the Xbox brand. I really hope MS saves it. If not, the gaming must still go on. oh well.viva_havarte

All this talk about the Big 3 B's leaving MS for greener pastures ( bungie, bioware, bizzare) Got me thinking. I never seen the end of sega as a console maker. yet it happened. What if MS really is leaving the xbox brand? what if they actually plan to not make a successor to the 360? I wont lie, I would be heart broken. I would have to urge sony to re-design their controller. I would get to enjoy the games. As the makers would only have so many choices to make them on. But what get's me is MS is mum on all this rumor talk about them leaving the console buisness. Not one peep. I hope Im wrong. I hope it's just a major re-organization. Either way PGR will see PS3. Bungie will see PS3. Not to mention the creators of Mass Effect will now make games on PS3. I find it sad that MS allowed this to happen at the time they are viewed the best option in the industry. Either way I will always love the Xbox brand. I really hope MS saves it. If not, the gaming must still go on. oh well.akuma303x

bungie bioware bizzare. as far as im concerned. ms is sitting pretty. we have a whole new generation of kids brought up on xbox's an ARMY of new people and ideas., and a whole new eastern block of cheap labor devs coming. i would be suprised if anyone of those companies comes out with a New title hit. the indstury is moving so fast, what devs know now kids are doing at home on there own. this console cant even handle, next gen kids. at the end microsoft will put ps3 to sleep. that will leave a void for another american console company or eastern block console maybe. but, japans done, have you ever heard of china. i wish i was a baby, i could only imagne what going to be like in the future for gaming.

[QUOTE="viva_havarte"][QUOTE="akuma303x"]All this talk about the Big 3 B's leaving MS for greener pastures ( bungie, bioware, bizzare) Got me thinking. I never seen the end of sega as a console maker. yet it happened. What if MS really is leaving the xbox brand? what if they actually plan to not make a successor to the 360? I wont lie, I would be heart broken. I would have to urge sony to re-design their controller. I would get to enjoy the games. As the makers would only have so many choices to make them on. But what get's me is MS is mum on all this rumor talk about them leaving the console buisness. Not one peep. I hope Im wrong. I hope it's just a major re-organization. Either way PGR will see PS3. Bungie will see PS3. Not to mention the creators of Mass Effect will now make games on PS3. I find it sad that MS allowed this to happen at the time they are viewed the best option in the industry. Either way I will always love the Xbox brand. I really hope MS saves it. If not, the gaming must still go on. oh well.akuma303x

yea but there is some deal they had when they split that mass effect cant go multiplat but as for the sequals... that is a dif story

If they do leave the industry I will go back to exclusively playing PC games. Not really a terrible prospect because the majority of games I play/want on Xbox have PC roots (Gears, Halo 3, Mass Effect ect.) but in between playing these I have played more console specific games and enjoyed them (DOA 4, Kameo, Dead Rising ect.) I wouldn't buy a console just to play games like this but I would miss them a bit. I wonder if developers who had PC roots such as Bioware, Epic and Bungie will go back to having the PC as their lead platform for all of their games or will we see time exclusives on another console with some of their games?Sir_Graham

[QUOTE="Sir_Graham"]If they do leave the industry I will go back to exclusively playing PC games. Not really a terrible prospect because the majority of games I play/want on Xbox have PC roots (Gears, Halo 3, Mass Effect ect.) but in between playing these I have played more console specific games and enjoyed them (DOA 4, Kameo, Dead Rising ect.) I wouldn't buy a console just to play games like this but I would miss them a bit. I wonder if developers who had PC roots such as Bioware, Epic and Bungie will go back to having the PC as their lead platform for all of their games or will we see time exclusives on another console with some of their games?akuma303x

F*ck apple!!!

I remeber when PS3 was losing all their exclusives before they came out. I also remember everyone screaming bloody murder when GTA 4 went multiplat. It will pass over, Microsoft got what they wanted from those devs, they are trying to not pull a Nintendo and drag a series on for 20 years, something so stale it makes Mummies in ancient Egypt seem tasty.-R3Volation

Are you serious??? do you really think that microsoft doesnt want a franchise that can last for 20 years and still sell well and most of the time deliver aaa games??? in 20 years there isnt a true mario, zelda or metroid game that has score less than aa...

think Microsoft is doing bad or bout to brake....just look at Sony...8)tacubano

Lol so I am guessing all the profits from the ps2 from last gen didn't do anything or the continuing profits of the ps2 till they finally stop supporting it?

[QUOTE="tacubano"]think Microsoft is doing bad or bout to brake....just look at Sony...8)fistoflight

Lol so I am guessing all the profits from the ps2 from last gen didn't do anything or the continuing profits of the ps2 till they finally stop supporting it?

You know Sony's game division lost 1.9 billion last year don't you?

[QUOTE="fistoflight"]

[QUOTE="tacubano"]think Microsoft is doing bad or bout to brake....just look at Sony...8)Yellow_Rose

Lol so I am guessing all the profits from the ps2 from last gen didn't do anything or the continuing profits of the ps2 till they finally stop supporting it?

You know Sony's game division lost 1.9 billion last year don't you?

and how much did MS gaming lose?

Why would bungie make games for ps3 after they've been making xbox games for so long? They said it themselves that they're gonna' still be focusing on microsoft platforms. The split was just to allow them to "expand creatively"and be able to make more games than halo. I don't think microsoft is leaving the xbox brand, at least I hope not.

anything could happen, i mean MS has dumped $6 billion in the red to support the Xbox brand for merely 2 generation, thats a tremendous amount of loss, if they can't make a profit off this gen, alot of stock holders will probably force MS to abandon Xbox brand. even as rich a company as MS is, there must be some kind of limit of financial hit they can take.

If they do leave the industry I will go back to exclusively playing PC games. Not really a terrible prospect because the majority of games I play/want on Xbox have PC roots (Gears, Halo 3, Mass Effect ect.) but in between playing these I have played more console specific games and enjoyed them (DOA 4, Kameo, Dead Rising ect.) I wouldn't buy a console just to play games like this but I would miss them a bit. I wonder if developers who had PC roots such as Bioware, Epic and Bungie will go back to having the PC as their lead platform for all of their games or will we see time exclusives on another console with some of their games?Sir_Graham

I doubt it, the console business is too profitable.

[QUOTE="akuma303x"]All this talk about the Big 3 B's leaving MS for greener pastures ( bungie, bioware, bizzare) Got me thinking. I never seen the end of sega as a console maker. yet it happened. What if MS really is leaving the xbox brand? what if they actually plan to not make a successor to the 360? I wont lie, I would be heart broken. I would have to urge sony to re-design their controller. I would get to enjoy the games. As the makers would only have so many choices to make them on. But what get's me is MS is mum on all this rumor talk about them leaving the console buisness. Not one peep. I hope Im wrong. I hope it's just a major re-organization. Either way PGR will see PS3. Bungie will see PS3. Not to mention the creators of Mass Effect will now make games on PS3. I find it sad that MS allowed this to happen at the time they are viewed the best option in the industry. Either way I will always love the Xbox brand. I really hope MS saves it. If not, the gaming must still go on. oh well.viva_havarte

/sigh, .... ugh.... did u really just say Mass "Affect"?...... *rolls eyes*, its called MASS EFFECT, and it's owned by Bioware, NOT Microsoft.

Probably is doomed really. 360 was really MS's best shot by far at taking the gaming market over..... year lead, tons of good games. But at this point I'd be really surprised if it exceeded 30 million sales total ever. Prettymuch guarunteed to lose to PS3 even with everything going bad for it.Lazy_Boy88

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[QUOTE="tacubano"]think Microsoft is doing bad or bout to brake....just look at Sony...8)Yellow_Rose

Lol so I am guessing all the profits from the ps2 from last gen didn't do anything or the continuing profits of the ps2 till they finally stop supporting it?

You know Sony's game division lost 1.9 billion last year don't you?

You know M$ gaming division is 5 billion dollars in the hole don't you?

[QUOTE="Sir_Graham"]If they do leave the industry I will go back to exclusively playing PC games. Not really a terrible prospect because the majority of games I play/want on Xbox have PC roots (Gears, Halo 3, Mass Effect ect.) but in between playing these I have played more console specific games and enjoyed them (DOA 4, Kameo, Dead Rising ect.) I wouldn't buy a console just to play games like this but I would miss them a bit. I wonder if developers who had PC roots such as Bioware, Epic and Bungie will go back to having the PC as their lead platform for all of their games or will we see time exclusives on another console with some of their games?Jenova_Flare

I doubt it, the console business is too profitable.

For Microsoft? lol, they haven't made a dime yet. Maybe it's smart enough for them to cut ties. I'm not for Sony monoplizing, but M$ just didn't have what it took to grasp a big market to make good profit. Plain and simple.

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[QUOTE="Sir_Graham"]If they do leave the industry I will go back to exclusively playing PC games. Not really a terrible prospect because the majority of games I play/want on Xbox have PC roots (Gears, Halo 3, Mass Effect ect.) but in between playing these I have played more console specific games and enjoyed them (DOA 4, Kameo, Dead Rising ect.) I wouldn't buy a console just to play games like this but I would miss them a bit. I wonder if developers who had PC roots such as Bioware, Epic and Bungie will go back to having the PC as their lead platform for all of their games or will we see time exclusives on another console with some of their games?Dylons_Fire

I doubt it, the console business is too profitable.

For Microsoft? lol, they haven't made a dime yet. Maybe it's smart enough for them to cut ties. I'm not for Sony monoplizing, but M$ just didn't have what it took to grasp a big market to make good profit. Plain and simple.

Are you ready to spit me some hot fire and be my friend yet?

[QUOTE="Dylons_Fire"][QUOTE="Jenova_Flare"]

[QUOTE="Sir_Graham"]If they do leave the industry I will go back to exclusively playing PC games. Not really a terrible prospect because the majority of games I play/want on Xbox have PC roots (Gears, Halo 3, Mass Effect ect.) but in between playing these I have played more console specific games and enjoyed them (DOA 4, Kameo, Dead Rising ect.) I wouldn't buy a console just to play games like this but I would miss them a bit. I wonder if developers who had PC roots such as Bioware, Epic and Bungie will go back to having the PC as their lead platform for all of their games or will we see time exclusives on another console with some of their games?Jenova_Flare

I doubt it, the console business is too profitable.

For Microsoft? lol, they haven't made a dime yet. Maybe it's smart enough for them to cut ties. I'm not for Sony monoplizing, but M$ just didn't have what it took to grasp a big market to make good profit. Plain and simple.

Are you ready to spit me some hot fire and be my friend yet?

I don't spit hot fire for free.

Lol "MS just didn't have what it took to grasp a big market to make good profit".

They make alot more profit than Sony buddy.

This is the first quarter that they will make a profit why would they would stop now?

It is inevitable that MS will eventually be the biggest player in this market. Because it is a software business andMS are the biggest software company in the world.

They are even making there own chips for the next xbox.

All this talk about the Big 3 B's leaving MS for greener pastures ( bungie, bioware, bizzare) Got me thinking. I never seen the end of sega as a console maker. yet it happened. What if MS really is leaving the xbox brand? what if they actually plan to not make a successor to the 360? I wont lie, I would be heart broken. I would have to urge sony to re-design their controller. I would get to enjoy the games. As the makers would only have so many choices to make them on. But what get's me is MS is mum on all this rumor talk about them leaving the console buisness. Not one peep. I hope Im wrong. I hope it's just a major re-organization. Either way PGR will see PS3. Bungie will see PS3. Not to mention the creators of Mass Effect will now make games on PS3. I find it sad that MS allowed this to happen at the time they are viewed the best option in the industry. Either way I will always love the Xbox brand. I really hope MS saves it. If not, the gaming must still go on. oh well.akuma303x

Bungie will still be making exclusives for the Xbox. In fact this is a good thing because MS will have more Bungie exclusive IP's besides Halo. BioWare games will still be on the 360 as will Bizzare. BioWare was always multiplat and Bizzare made one tired racing franchise that MS still has the rights to. Stop preaching doom and gloom when there is none. Anyway the only one MS had any controll over at all was Bungie and things havent really changed with them.

[QUOTE="akuma303x"][QUOTE="viva_havarte"][QUOTE="akuma303x"]All this talk about the Big 3 B's leaving MS for greener pastures ( bungie, bioware, bizzare) Got me thinking. I never seen the end of sega as a console maker. yet it happened. What if MS really is leaving the xbox brand? what if they actually plan to not make a successor to the 360? I wont lie, I would be heart broken. I would have to urge sony to re-design their controller. I would get to enjoy the games. As the makers would only have so many choices to make them on. But what get's me is MS is mum on all this rumor talk about them leaving the console buisness. Not one peep. I hope Im wrong. I hope it's just a major re-organization. Either way PGR will see PS3. Bungie will see PS3. Not to mention the creators of Mass Effect will now make games on PS3. I find it sad that MS allowed this to happen at the time they are viewed the best option in the industry. Either way I will always love the Xbox brand. I really hope MS saves it. If not, the gaming must still go on. oh well.mattyomo99

yea but there is some deal they had when they split that mass effect cant go multiplat but as for the sequals... that is a dif story

[QUOTE="akuma303x"]All this talk about the Big 3 B's leaving MS for greener pastures ( bungie, bioware, bizzare) Got me thinking. I never seen the end of sega as a console maker. yet it happened. What if MS really is leaving the xbox brand? what if they actually plan to not make a successor to the 360? I wont lie, I would be heart broken. I would have to urge sony to re-design their controller. I would get to enjoy the games. As the makers would only have so many choices to make them on. But what get's me is MS is mum on all this rumor talk about them leaving the console buisness. Not one peep. I hope Im wrong. I hope it's just a major re-organization. Either way PGR will see PS3. Bungie will see PS3. Not to mention the creators of Mass Effect will now make games on PS3. I find it sad that MS allowed this to happen at the time they are viewed the best option in the industry. Either way I will always love the Xbox brand. I really hope MS saves it. If not, the gaming must still go on. oh well.TOAO_Cyrus1

Bungie will still be making exclusives for the Xbox. In fact this is a good thing because MS will have more Bungie exclusive IP's besides Halo. BioWare games will still be on the 360 as will Bizzare. BioWare was always multiplat and Bizzare made one tired racing franchise that MS still has the rights to. Stop preaching doom and gloom when there is none. Anyway the only one MS had any controll over at all was Bungie and things havent really changed with them.

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[QUOTE="Sir_Graham"]If they do leave the industry I will go back to exclusively playing PC games. Not really a terrible prospect because the majority of games I play/want on Xbox have PC roots (Gears, Halo 3, Mass Effect ect.) but in between playing these I have played more console specific games and enjoyed them (DOA 4, Kameo, Dead Rising ect.) I wouldn't buy a console just to play games like this but I would miss them a bit. I wonder if developers who had PC roots such as Bioware, Epic and Bungie will go back to having the PC as their lead platform for all of their games or will we see time exclusives on another console with some of their games?Dylons_Fire

I doubt it, the console business is too profitable.

For Microsoft? lol, they haven't made a dime yet. Maybe it's smart enough for them to cut ties. I'm not for Sony monoplizing, but M$ just didn't have what it took to grasp a big market to make good profit. Plain and simple.

[QUOTE="Dylons_Fire"]For Microsoft? lol, they haven't made a dime yet. Maybe it's smart enough for them to cut ties. I'm not for Sony monoplizing, but M$ just didn't have what it took to grasp a big market to make good profit. Plain and simple.horgen123

Did you meant succeed? Anyways, How much does M$ have to lose to be successful? Note: Nintendo, Sony, and Sega didn't have to lose nearly $6 billion dollars to make profit.

M$ is playing the same game they do with any area they try to barge into, they throw mad amounts of cash at it, games Ipods software...windows vista...lol.

M$ always tries to muscle out the competition with insane loses and when they get rid of the competition they start to profit, but that wont work with video games, and is biting them in the ass with all there looes.

[QUOTE="horgen123"][QUOTE="Dylons_Fire"]For Microsoft? lol, they haven't made a dime yet. Maybe it's smart enough for them to cut ties. I'm not for Sony monoplizing, but M$ just didn't have what it took to grasp a big market to make good profit. Plain and simple.Dylons_Fire

Did you meant succeed? Anyways, How much does M$ have to lose to be successful? Note: Nintendo, Sony, and Sega didn't have to lose nearly $6 billion dollars to make profit.

You have to remember the original Xboxpitched itself against the PS2 the most sucsessfull console in history. It was there first console and arrived at market late. Everybody knows the costs these days are huge compared to a while back when Sony first started.

PGR won't see PS3 (Microsoft owns the rights). Halo will absolutely never see PS3(also owned by Micrsoft), and Microsoft has the choice on deciding what systems a new Bungie IP will be released on. And Mass Effect is still 360 exclusive. All in all it's not a huge terrible thing. I can see what you mean by the possiblity of them leaving, but I doubt it right now, we'll have to wait for more to happen.O_Lineman17

All this talk about the Big 3 B's leaving MS for greener pastures ( bungie, bioware, bizzare) Got me thinking. I never seen the end of sega as a console maker. yet it happened. What if MS really is leaving the xbox brand? what if they actually plan to not make a successor to the 360? I wont lie, I would be heart broken. I would have to urge sony to re-design their controller. I would get to enjoy the games. As the makers would only have so many choices to make them on. But what get's me is MS is mum on all this rumor talk about them leaving the console buisness. Not one peep. I hope Im wrong. I hope it's just a major re-organization. Either way PGR will see PS3. Bungie will see PS3. Not to mention the creators of Mass Effect will now make games on PS3. I find it sad that MS allowed this to happen at the time they are viewed the best option in the industry. Either way I will always love the Xbox brand. I really hope MS saves it. If not, the gaming must still go on. oh well.akuma303x

okay I am tired of people saying that bioware left MS. BIOWARE WAS NOT, I repeat NOT a part of Microsoft and never was. With that said though it should be obvious that bioware will now make games for every single platform known to man. We Will see masseffect on the ps3-ps1 and everyother console inbetween, SNES, N64 etc