Well Lemmings, so much for the 360 being "powerfull" and "fully H

According to various websites, Halo3 isn't the only game using the 640p mode. Here is a list of other 360 games falling below M$ hyped "full HD" scams:

Tony Hawk's Project 8 -585p

Perfect Dark Zero -640p

Halo 3 -640p

Call of Duty 3 -630p

Project Gotham Racing 3 -600p

Tomb Raider Legend -600p

This maybe thereason most 360 games like Halo look jaggy due to the fact developers have to turn down the resolutions just to get at least 30fps. I thought the 360 was capable of 720p/1080p at 60fps. Thats what it states on the box right?

Keep running with it.

All cows have really...they have no games so they spend their days dissecting 360 game resolutions...a cruel fate.

PLay Jericho and R6 vegas, and Graw 2 on both PS3 and 360....tell me some more bout those resolutions...

Yeah its capable of it. It does it in COD4 and Madden 2008 and NCAA 08.

All those games you listed look pretty good though. I played them all on HD screens and I never said "Hmmm this doesn't look FULL HD as described by the marketing gurus of the world." I said "Veerrry nice!"

According to various websites, Halo3 isn't the only game using the 640p mode. Here is a list of other 360 games falling below M$ hyped "full HD" scams:

Tony Hawk's Project 8 -585p

Perfect Dark Zero -640p

Halo 3 -640p

Call of Duty 3 -630p

Project Gotham Racing 3 -600p

Tomb Raider Legend -600p

This maybe thereason most 360 games like Halo look jaggy due to the fact developers have to turn down the resolutions just to get at least 30fps. I thought the 360 was capable of 720p/1080p at 60fps. Thats what it states on the box right?

megaton3k

halo 3 didn't really have any jaggies...

I think the whole 1080 p and the entire hd bluray thing is overhyped anyways, the games and dvd's still look good upscaled to whatever, you people need to get a life and get over it all this bs is just a waist of time and money

if u got an hdtv with a dvd player that upscales it still looks pretty good and u dont need this extra crap

and all the games look pretty sweet too

According to various websites, Halo3 isn't the only game using the 640p mode. Here is a list of other 360 games falling below M$ hyped "full HD" scams:

Tony Hawk's Project 8 -585p

Perfect Dark Zero -640p

Halo 3 -640p

Call of Duty 3 -630p

Project Gotham Racing 3 -600p

Tomb Raider Legend -600p

This maybe thereason most 360 games like Halo look jaggy due to the fact developers have to turn down the resolutions just to get at least 30fps. I thought the 360 was capable of 720p/1080p at 60fps. Thats what it states on the box right?

megaton3k

Halo3 isn't the only game using the 640p mode. Here is a list of other 360 games

Halo 3 -640p

megaton3k

I think the whole 1080 p and the entire hd bluray thing is overhyped anyways, the games and dvd's still look good upscaled to whatever, you people need to get a life and get over it all this bs is just a waist of time and money

if u got an hdtv with a dvd player that upscales it still looks pretty good and u dont need this extra crap

and all the games look pretty sweet too

SegArgyle

According to various websites, Halo3 isn't the only game using the 640p mode. Here is a list of other 360 games falling below M$ hyped "full HD" scams:

Tony Hawk's Project 8 -585p

Perfect Dark Zero -640p

Halo 3 -640p

Call of Duty 3 -630p

Project Gotham Racing 3 -600p

Tomb Raider Legend -600p

This maybe thereason most 360 games like Halo look jaggy due to the fact developers have to turn down the resolutions just to get at least 30fps. I thought the 360 was capable of 720p/1080p at 60fps. Thats what it states on the box right?

megaton3k

There not actually running in 640 P. One could actually say there running in 1080P. You cows don't understand their using 2 buffers for those games. Both running at 640 P. The problem is the testing device that they use appears to not be able to sense both buffers. Another attempted cow failure!

[QUOTE="megaton3k"]

According to various websites, Halo3 isn't the only game using the 640p mode. Here is a list of other 360 games falling below M$ hyped "full HD" scams:

Tony Hawk's Project 8 -585p

Perfect Dark Zero -640p

Halo 3 -640p

Call of Duty 3 -630p

Project Gotham Racing 3 -600p

Tomb Raider Legend -600p

This maybe thereason most 360 games like Halo look jaggy due to the fact developers have to turn down the resolutions just to get at least 30fps. I thought the 360 was capable of 720p/1080p at 60fps. Thats what it states on the box right?

jlh47

halo 3 didn't really have any jaggies...

The game is a jaggy mess on 720p, seriously the cutscenes are unbelievably ugly

yet to see the ps3 do anything better than the others

with no games the consumers dont care, and its getting to be too little too late for sony this gen

they screwed up, too much crap to deal with, better luck next time

end of story get over it and deal with it, you can't win them all

It can never be fully HD either because it has standard DVD9 as it's normal format. It can only be up scaled to HD which doesn't look as good as something that was build to be HD from the ground up.Nerkcon

This argument makes me laugh every time.

According to various websites, Halo3 isn't the only game using the 640p mode. Here is a list of other 360 games falling below M$ hyped "full HD" scams:

Tony Hawk's Project 8 -585p

Perfect Dark Zero -640p

Halo 3 -640p

Call of Duty 3 -630p

Project Gotham Racing 3 -600p

Tomb Raider Legend -600p

This maybe thereason most 360 games like Halo look jaggy due to the fact developers have to turn down the resolutions just to get at least 30fps. I thought the 360 was capable of 720p/1080p at 60fps. Thats what it states on the box right?

megaton3k

Sorry, I fell asleep.

[QUOTE="Nerkcon"]It can never be fully HD either because it has standard DVD9 as it's normal format. It can only be up scaled to HD which doesn't look as good as something that was build to be HD from the ground up.Spindoc_SEI

This argument makes me laugh every time.

It's not a argument. Are you going make chocolate milk with out chocolate? :P It's not like it's a bad thing.

those game came out 1+ years a go, stop digging for something tocomplain aboutSlyprince

[QUOTE="Spindoc_SEI"]

[QUOTE="Nerkcon"]It can never be fully HD either because it has standard DVD9 as it's normal format. It can only be up scaled to HD which doesn't look as good as something that was build to be HD from the ground up.Nerkcon

This argument makes me laugh every time.

It's not a argument. Are you going make chocolate milk with out chocolate? :P It's not like it's a bad thing.

Are you saying it's a fact? That's even funnier! :lol:

[QUOTE="Slyprince"]those game came out 1+ years a go, stop digging for something tocomplain aboutl-_-l

ok, all but one

for the love of god, some of those are launch games

WHO CARES!!!!!

Edit: Nobody would have know, if this was not reported

nobody was complaining about this when those games were released

[QUOTE="Nerkcon"][QUOTE="Spindoc_SEI"]

[QUOTE="Nerkcon"]It can never be fully HD either because it has standard DVD9 as it's normal format. It can only be up scaled to HD which doesn't look as good as something that was build to be HD from the ground up.Spindoc_SEI

This argument makes me laugh every time.

It's not a argument. Are you going make chocolate milk with out chocolate? :P It's not like it's a bad thing.

Are you saying it's a fact? That's even funnier! :lol:

Holy crap spell check that's a word! Didn't know that. How many 360 games are in true 1080p?

But the games are better.. Thats really all that matters. ReD187

Excacly. Dead or Alive and Ninja Gaiden > Tekken and God of War! :D

It can never be fully HD either because it has standard DVD9 as it's normal format. It can only be up scaled to HD which doesn't look as good as something that was build to be HD from the ground up.Nerkcon

All HdDvd and Bluray offer is more space. This has nothing to do with being capable of hd. They just put hd movies on those formats because they need the more space.

What does that say for PS3 when some of those games look better than "full HD" PS3 games?swamprat_basic

The PS3's graphics card is about as powerful as a Geforce 7 and the 360 has a Geforce 8 along with more video RAM. Sony likes to go for the strongest CPU.

It can never be fully HD either because it has standard DVD9 as it's normal format. It can only be up scaled to HD which doesn't look as good as something that was build to be HD from the ground up.Nerkcon

You'd be right if we were talking about DVD movies, but no, we're talking about games.

[QUOTE="swamprat_basic"]What does that say for PS3 when some of those games look better than "full HD" PS3 games?Nerkcon

The PS3's graphics card is about as powerful as a Geforce 7 and the 360 has a Geforce 8 along with more video RAM. Sony likes to go for the strongest CPU.

Why does it matter how the Xbox 360 achieves the graphics for those games, if, in the end, they look better than most PS3 games?

The 360 video is actually more like an ATi HD2900XT; a card with fancy-high numbers, but doesn't actually perform as well as an enthusiast card should. A $400 card that should cost half as much.

And just to clear something up, I'm a Hermit. I just like commenting in these hardware-related threads as most, NOT ALL, people I see in SW are either misinformed, know what they're talking about and just acting stupid, or are serious and really are stupid.

[QUOTE="l-_-l"][QUOTE="Slyprince"]those game came out 1+ years a go, stop digging for something tocomplain aboutSlyprince

ok, all but one

for the love of god, some of those are launch games

WHO CARES!!!!!

Edit: Nobody would have know, if this was not reported

nobody was complaining about this when those games were released

I hope the games that are developed for the 360 in the future do not stress the system with 60 fps because mine keeps breaking and I have to keep sending it in for repairs.

[QUOTE="Nerkcon"]

[QUOTE="swamprat_basic"]What does that say for PS3 when some of those games look better than "full HD" PS3 games?swamprat_basic

The PS3's graphics card is about as powerful as a Geforce 7 and the 360 has a Geforce 8 along with more video RAM. Sony likes to go for the strongest CPU.

Why does it matter how the Xbox 360 achieves the graphics for those games, if, in the end, they look better than most PS3 games?

I don't know how to reply that that... are you saying specs don't matter? I wasn't going against you. How are games so different then DVDs? I know the programming is very different but what about the general format?

Quit looking for complaints. Especially for ones that aren't there. Those games are "HD-compatible". You're are now thinking:

"ZOMG!!! NO THEY'RE NOT!! THEY ONLY DO LIKE 600p!!!"

That's fine, actually. The Xbox 360 does HD-upscaling. Read that again. You can take crappy, images.google pictures with their lower resolution and the 360 will upscale them to look great on your HDTV. It's the same with games.

[QUOTE="swamprat_basic"][QUOTE="Nerkcon"]

[QUOTE="swamprat_basic"]What does that say for PS3 when some of those games look better than "full HD" PS3 games?Nerkcon

The PS3's graphics card is about as powerful as a Geforce 7 and the 360 has a Geforce 8 along with more video RAM. Sony likes to go for the strongest CPU.

Why does it matter how the Xbox 360 achieves the graphics for those games, if, in the end, they look better than most PS3 games?

I don't know how to reply that that... are you saying specs don't matter? I wasn't going against you. How are games so different then DVDs? I know the programming is very different but what about the general format?

Games are completely different from DVD movies. The reason Blu-Ray and HD-DVD is needed for HD movies is because of storage space, and the fact that standard DVD players are only designed to play Mpeg-2, which is nowhere near the best video codec anymore.

Games are really only limited by the read rate of the disc drives, though the PS3 only has a 2x Blu-Ray drive which is actually potentially slower than the DVD drive in the Xbox 360. They are also limited by storage space, but in terms of graphics that'll only really effect textures, but they've pretty much found a way around that with mapping techniques. The size of the disc is more likely to effect the length of the game's content than the quality of the graphics.

You act as if the PS3 doesn't also have its share of "non HD" games after all of their claims of "Teh True HD!" and 120 fps and 4D gaming.

Don't kid yourself.

Keep running with it.

All cows have really...they have no games so they spend their days dissecting 360 game resolutions...a cruel fate.

PLay Jericho and R6 vegas, and Graw 2 on both PS3 and 360....tell me some more bout those resolutions...

Hikaru-119

Well I thought all PS3 games were going to run in 1920x1080 at 120 FPS...Spindoc_SEI

hahaha yeah, thats like saying

Sony: we are bringing crysis to PS3! at 120 FPS constant.

well just try sony, not even pc can do that.. lmao!

Games are completely different from DVD movies. The reason Blu-Ray and HD-DVD is needed for HD movies is because of storage space, and the fact that standard DVD players are only designed to play Mpeg-2, which is nowhere near the best video codec anymore.

Games are really only limited by the read rate of the disc drives, though the PS3 only has a 2x Blu-Ray drive which is actually potentially slower than the DVD drive in the Xbox 360. They are also limited by storage space, but in terms of graphics that'll only really effect textures, but they've pretty much found a way around that with mapping techniques. The size of the disc is more likely to effect the length of the game's content than the quality of the graphics.

Thank you for clearing that up. But I'm with Lemmings with PS3 graphics vs X360 graphics. Sony is trying to be better with more space, standard hard drive, and a more powerful GPU(AKA the Cell.) I don't know how it work for Oblivion though. PS3 has 200 something video RAM and normal RAM I think. And the 360 has 500. How are you going get equal results out of moving from having more to having little? None the less better. To help the PS3 they should try improving the A.I. and the physics then the graphics IMO. That is, IF the Cell is stronger.