Western RPGS vs. Japanese RPGS (POLL)

Vote! And what qualifies as a Western RPG is what is made on U.S. or Canadian soil. (Neverwinter Nights, WoW, Guild Wars, KOTOR, etc.). Japanese RPGS are the ones that were made in... well, Japan. And they're the ones with feminine males denying denying their gender. (Final Fantasy, etc.)

For me, it's Western RPGS. They make better online RPGS, they all have a good story that is mostly always original, and a great combat system.

Japanese RPGS are usually the same thing; Emo hipsters fighting in a medieval world with anime theatrics and an uninspired story.

IMO, Western RPGS >>>>>>>>> JRPGS.

Vote!

jrpg's own western rpg's

wrpg's are all the same

at least jrpg's change it up with fresh awesome stories

with wrpgs its always save the king and fight some dragons and talk to people with british accents

Hmmmmm...Final Fantasy X versus KOTOR. Its too tough to call. They are both equal, but I like the style of Western RPGs, but FFX is the best game i've ever played.

jrpg's own western rpg's

wrpg's are all the same

at least jrpg's change it up with fresh awesome stories

with wrpgs its always save the king and fight some dragons and talk to people with british accents

mistervengeance

I can argue that all JRPGS are the same.

Anime-style character design? Check.

Cheesy voice acting? Check.

Main characters without shirts and hair so long and spiky that you wonder what kind of hair product they use? Check.

End-Game boss that has mutliple forms? Check.

I disagree whole heartedly with what "qualifies" either sub genre.

It really isn't where they're made that differentiates them, albeit each type is the predominate in their respective regions.

The thing that separates them is their fundamental design. A Japanese developer could make a WRPG, and a western developer (North America, Europe for the most part) could make a JRPG. They rarely if ever do that though, sadly.

To say it's basis is region is really a misconception of the actual defining qualities of both great sub genre. :|

It really depends on the game.

JRPGs constrain themselves with tradition far too much. Something like Oblivion, with that kind of interactivity and scope, would never come out of Japan.

I disagree whole heartedly with what "qualifies" either sub genre.

It really isn't where they're made that differentiates them, albeit each type is the predominate in their respective regions.

The thing that separates them is their fundamental design. A Japanese developer could make a WRPG, and a western developer (North America, Europe for the most part) could make a JRPG. They rarely if ever do that though, sadly.

To say it's basis is region is really a misconception of the actual defining qualities of both great sub genre. :|

-RPGamer-

If what you say is true, why aren't Japanese RPG developers trying to mix up the formula? Final Fantasy XII was a huge change of pace, but I want to see a main character that does not look like a girl.

And the same for Western RPGS: Stop trying to make the next World of Warcraft and create a compelling single-player RPG that will change Role-Playing history!

Neither Western or Japanese RPG makers have disproven the stereotype of each genre as of yet.

[QUOTE="mistervengeance"]

jrpg's own western rpg's

wrpg's are all the same

at least jrpg's change it up with fresh awesome stories

with wrpgs its always save the king and fight some dragons and talk to people with british accents

princeofshapeir

I can argue that all JRPGS are the same.

Anime-style character design? Check.

Cheesy voice acting? Check.

Main characters without shirts and hair so long and spiky that you wonder what kind of hair product they use? Check.

End-Game boss that has mutliple forms? Check.

wow that's even worse generalization than saying all italians like pizza

Japanese,

Final Fantasy = best game series ever.,

Vote! And what qualifies as a Western RPG is what is made on U.S. or Canadian soil. (Neverwinter Nights, WoW, Guild Wars, KOTOR, etc.). Japanese RPGS are the ones that were made in... well, Japan. And they're the ones with feminine males denying denying their gender. (Final Fantasy, etc.)

For me, it's Western RPGS. They make better online RPGS, they all have a good story that is mostly always original, and a great combat system.

Japanese RPGS are usually the same thing; Emo hipsters fighting in a medieval world with anime theatrics and an uninspired story.

IMO, Western RPGS >>>>>>>>> JRPGS.

Vote!

princeofshapeir

Guild Wars was made in Korea.

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="mistervengeance"]

jrpg's own western rpg's

wrpg's are all the same

at least jrpg's change it up with fresh awesome stories

with wrpgs its always save the king and fight some dragons and talk to people with british accents

mistervengeance

I can argue that all JRPGS are the same.

Anime-style character design? Check.

Cheesy voice acting? Check.

Main characters without shirts and hair so long and spiky that you wonder what kind of hair product they use? Check.

End-Game boss that has mutliple forms? Check.

wow that's even worse generalization than saying all italians like pizza

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="mistervengeance"]

jrpg's own western rpg's

wrpg's are all the same

at least jrpg's change it up with fresh awesome stories

with wrpgs its always save the king and fight some dragons and talk to people with british accents

mistervengeance

I can argue that all JRPGS are the same.

Anime-style character design? Check.

Cheesy voice acting? Check.

Main characters without shirts and hair so long and spiky that you wonder what kind of hair product they use? Check.

End-Game boss that has mutliple forms? Check.

wow that's even worse generalization than saying all italians like pizza

Your generalization was just as horrid.

Youdo realize that this board is mostly occupied by Xbox 360 fans first and PC fans second correct? (judging from previous "what's your favorite system?" polls.

I disagree whole heartedly with what "qualifies" either sub genre.

It really isn't where they're made that differentiates them, albeit each type is the predominate in their respective regions.

The thing that separates them is their fundamental design. A Japanese developer could make a WRPG, and a western developer (North America, Europe for the most part) could make a JRPG. They rarely if ever do that though, sadly.

To say it's basis is region is really a misconception of the actual defining qualities of both great sub genre. :|

-RPGamer-

Agreed, if somebody says other wise they must haven't played Final Fantasy XII or Anarchronax.

I can argue that all JRPGS are the same.

Anime-****character design? Check.

Cheesy voice acting? Check.

Main characters without shirts and hair so long and spiky that you wonder what kind of hair product they use? Check.

End-Game boss that has mutliple forms? Check.

princeofshapeir

With an exception of the voice acting and anime, hardly any JRPG's do those things, the only company that puts all those things or most of those things in their game, is Square-Enix.

Vote! And what qualifies as a Western RPG is what is made on U.S. or Canadian soil. (Neverwinter Nights, WoW, Guild Wars, KOTOR, etc.). Japanese RPGS are the ones that were made in... well, Japan. And they're the ones with feminine males denying denying their gender. (Final Fantasy, etc.)

For me, it's Western RPGS. They make better online RPGS, they all have a good story that is mostly always original, and a great combat system.

Japanese RPGS are usually the same thing; Emo hipsters fighting in a medieval world with anime theatrics and an uninspired story.

IMO, Western RPGS >>>>>>>>> JRPGS.

Vote!

princeofshapeir

Western RPG's are not turn based, they use a Rock, Paper,Scissor setup.

JRPG's have Random battles(usally) and tnot many have "Emo Hipsters" it's obvious you have no idea what your talking about. Thing is it's like comparing Apples to oranges.

JRPG's are >> Single player because Western RPG's are meant for Mutliplayer, like Neverwinter Nights, WoW, Guild Wars. if your internet is down the best RPG you can play is a JRPG.

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]

JRPG's are >> Single player because Western RPG's are meant for Mutliplayer, like Neverwinter Nights, WoW, Guild Wars. if your internet is down the best RPG you can play is a JRPG.

peacebringer

...wtf?

BOTH!!!laughingman42

I agree. *hi5's him*

[QUOTE="mistervengeance"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="mistervengeance"]

jrpg's own western rpg's

wrpg's are all the same

at least jrpg's change it up with fresh awesome stories

with wrpgs its always save the king and fight some dragons and talk to people with british accents

ToScA-

I can argue that all JRPGS are the same.

Anime-style character design? Check.

Cheesy voice acting? Check.

Main characters without shirts and hair so long and spiky that you wonder what kind of hair product they use? Check.

End-Game boss that has mutliple forms? Check.

wow that's even worse generalization than saying all italians like pizza

Your generalization was just as horrid.

[QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]

I disagree whole heartedly with what "qualifies" either sub genre.

It really isn't where they're made that differentiates them, albeit each type is the predominate in their respective regions.

The thing that separates them is their fundamental design. A Japanese developer could make a WRPG, and a western developer (North America, Europe for the most part) could make a JRPG. They rarely if ever do that though, sadly.

To say it's basis is region is really a misconception of the actual defining qualities of both great sub genre. :|

princeofshapeir

If what you say is true, why aren't Japanese RPG developers trying to mix up the formula? Final Fantasy XII was a huge change of pace, but I want to see a main character that does not look like a girl.

And the same for Western RPGS: Stop trying to make the next World of Warcraft and create a compelling single-player RPG that will change Role-Playing history!

Neither Western or Japanese RPG makers have disproven the stereotype of each genre as of yet.

They do it by choice, and a good portion of it is built into the culture and game design of the regions (good reference book for this is Power Up,by Chris Kohler). It's not that they can't, it's that they don't. Toss in the want to make money and you get a pretty good concept of why there's such a regional distinction.

It's true that both sides are stuck in this method of making games, it's really sad being a huge fan of the genre, and over time I've lost a lot of faith in it. *shakes head*

[QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]

JRPG's are >> Single player because Western RPG's are meant for Mutliplayer, like Neverwinter Nights, WoW, Guild Wars. if your internet is down the best RPG you can play is a JRPG.

ToScA-

...wtf?

fact no one pointed out WOW,Guild wars story are irrelavent to the lvling/grinding/meating people. JRPG's are 1 player games, no western RPG can touch a good JRPG' cause a good JRPG is like reading a book(we'll till they added voice acting wich messes it up. you buy a game like WOW for it's online mode and all that no one i ever went to Onyxia with cared about why we had to kill her. but how many people know Aerith died in FF7?
peacebringer

jrpg's own western rpg's

wrpg's are all the same

at least jrpg's change it up with fresh awesome stories

with wrpgs its always save the king and fight some dragons and talk to people with british accents

mistervengeance

:|

what kind of question is this,JRPGs DEFINE the RPG genre, WRPGs aren't really big like there counterparts, nontheless I still play oblivion, but its only one among like 20 other JRPGsMad_Rhetoric

*shakes head*

WRPG really defines the RPG originally. JRPG (specifically Square and Enix during the times) pulled inspiration from WRPG of the time.

[QUOTE="peacebringer"] fact no one pointed out WOW,Guild wars story are irrelavent to the lvling/grinding/meating people. JRPG's are 1 player games, no western RPG can touch a good JRPG' cause a good JRPG is like reading a book(we'll till they added voice acting wich messes it up. you buy a game like WOW for it's online mode and all that no one i ever went to Onyxia with cared about why we had to kill her. but how many people know Aerith died in FF7?
CocopuffsGM

jrpg's own western rpg's

wrpg's are all the same

at least jrpg's change it up with fresh awesome stories

with wrpgs its always save the king and fight some dragons and talk to people with british accents

mistervengeance

[QUOTE="mistervengeance"]

jrpg's own western rpg's

wrpg's are all the same

at least jrpg's change it up with fresh awesome stories

with wrpgs its always save the king and fight some dragons and talk to people with british accents

farrell2k

And with JRPGs it's always some 15 yr old boy, or a group of 15 yr old kids out to save the world from the evil_____.

Your WRPG generalization was worse. It's funny because one of the reason I like WRPGs better than JRPGs is because they are not all the same.

JRPG story:
Some kid is destined to do something important/ has special powers.
World(s) are in danger.
One evil entity is in charge of it all.

And your forgetting, the best video game story is in a WRPG (Planescape: Torment, most who played would agree). And by the way, dragons are more of a JRPG thing. I think you just owned yourself with that entire post.

(Oh, And most the things princeofshapeir are also true. Not always a bad thing, some JRPGs are still fun.)CocopuffsGM

And with JRPGs it's always some 15 yr old boy, or a group of 15 yr old kids out to save the world from the evil_____.

farrell2k

See and people wonder why most JRPG fans hate Square-Enix, because you get retarded generalazations like this.

[QUOTE="mistervengeance"]

jrpg's own western rpg's

wrpg's are all the same

at least jrpg's change it up with fresh awesome stories

with wrpgs its always save the king and fight some dragons and talk to people with british accents

CrimsonBlade360

[QUOTE="CocopuffsGM"]

Your WRPG generalization was worse. It's funny because one of the reason I like WRPGs better than JRPGs is because they are not all the same.

JRPG story:
Some kid is destined to do something important/ has special powers.
World(s) are in danger.
One evil entity is in charge of it all.

And your forgetting, the best video game story is in a WRPG (Planescape: Torment, most who played would agree). And by the way, dragons are more of a JRPG thing. I think you just owned yourself with that entire post.

(Oh, And most the things princeofshapeir are also true. Not always a bad thing, some JRPGs are still fun.)Gunraidan

And with JRPGs it's always some 15 yr old boy, or a group of 15 yr old kids out to save the world from the evil_____.

farrell2k

See and people wonder why most JRPG fans hate Square-Enix, because you get retarded generalazations like this.

WRPGs for the win.

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="mistervengeance"]

jrpg's own western rpg's

wrpg's are all the same

at least jrpg's change it up with fresh awesome stories

with wrpgs its always save the king and fight some dragons and talk to people with british accents

mistervengeance

I can argue that all JRPGS are the same.

Anime-style character design? Check.

Cheesy voice acting? Check.

Main characters without shirts and hair so long and spiky that you wonder what kind of hair product they use? Check.

End-Game boss that has mutliple forms? Check.

wow that's even worse generalization than saying all italians like pizza

:shock: They don't? :P

I absolutely despise JRPG's, I hate turn based gameplay and random battles. And most JRPG's have the same story, and have really nothing new in their games. At least with WRPG's, you get compelling stories and fun gameplay.batistafan99

Perfect rpg =

story and characters as deep as ff6+world like oblivion+ battle system like grandia, star ocean, and oblivion+WOW like mulit player+ *** and western character designs+ glorious music to top it all off.

Hmm it sounds like infinite undiscovery maybe it.:P

[QUOTE="batistafan99"]I absolutely despise JRPG's, I hate turn based gameplay and random battles. And most JRPG's have the same story, and have really nothing new in their games. At least with WRPG's, you get compelling stories and fun gameplay.ken_gamer

what's so fun about turn based battles? it's like playing pokemon. and their stories are always the same, with metrosexual characters with spiky hair and fairies and crap.

I absolutely despise JRPG's, I hate turn based gameplay and random battles. And most JRPG's have the same story, and have really nothing new in their games. At least with WRPG's, you get compelling stories and fun gameplay.batistafan99

[QUOTE="ken_gamer"][QUOTE="batistafan99"]I absolutely despise JRPG's, I hate turn based gameplay and random battles. And most JRPG's have the same story, and have really nothing new in their games. At least with WRPG's, you get compelling stories and fun gameplay.batistafan99

what's so fun about turn based battles? it's like playing pokemon. and their stories are always the same, with metrosexual characters with spiky hair and fairies and crap.

except pokemon is actually something that pulls off turned based gameplay :)

Guild Wars was created in South Korea.

e___e;