What are old school hardcore pc gamers opinion of console shooters?

I look down on them. When Crytek made the leap to consoles with Crysis 2 I automatically had a knee jerk reaction that "this is the death of the franchise". I had this same opinion with fear 2. Bioshock. Dues Ex 2. Theif 4. And so on.

When I think of console shooters like Goldeneye and Halo, I dont consider them in the same league as pc built games like Duke 3d, Doom I/II, Halflife Fear 1 e.t.c...

So hardcore pc gamer hardcore shooter fans who have games for many years. What is your opinion of console built shooters that make up the majority of shooters these days thanks to the xbawx? Have consoles with 2 weapon max, health regen, simple maps and weapon and Xp unlocks made FPS cool dude or square?

Lol it's funny how Hermits blame the consoles, when it's the braindead developers who can't think straight of what to do next.

SNIPER would be proud to lay his eggs in here.

SNIPER would be proud to lay his eggs in here.

ConanTheStoner

Just one more reason to avoid this thread like the plague.

fps on consoles = :lol:

Just played Bioshock on the 360 and it's clear it was never meant for the control pad, gunplay is absolutely horrible.

It plays like those PC ports that came to the 360 in it's first year.

Just played Bioshock on the 360 and it's clear it was never meant for the control pad, gunplay is absolutely horrible.

It plays like those PC ports that came to the 360 in it's first year.

HalcyonScarlet

It's funny you'd say that because it plays crap on the pc as well.

Maybe it's just a really shitty, overrated game?

Just played Bioshock on the 360 and it's clear it was never meant for the control pad, gunplay is absolutely horrible.

It plays like those PC ports that came to the 360 in it's first year.

HalcyonScarlet

that's exactly what I thought the first time I used k&m to play a FPS. It was clear that FPS were never meant for k&m. :lol:

It was clear that FPS were never meant for k&m. :lol:Gue1

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Just played Bioshock on the 360 and it's clear it was never meant for the control pad, gunplay is absolutely horrible.

It plays like those PC ports that came to the 360 in it's first year.

Gue1

that's exactly what I thought the first time I used k&m to play a FPS. It was clear that FPS were never meant for k&m. :lol:

[QUOTE="HalcyonScarlet"]

Just played Bioshock on the 360 and it's clear it was never meant for the control pad, gunplay is absolutely horrible.

It plays like those PC ports that came to the 360 in it's first year.

Gue1

that's exactly what I thought the first time I used k&m to play a FPS. It was clear that FPS were never meant for k&m. :lol:

FPS are always better on PC.

Though to answer your question TC, I don't necessarily blame "consoles" as much as I blame the CoD franchise.v13_KiiLtz

Agreed here.

Also, regarding console shooters, I don't think just being console games makes them inherently worse. I just can't stand to play a shooter without a mouse and keyboard. Especially anything fast paced and/or competitive. That's a joke with a gamepad. I've had tons of fun playing many shooters that were designed for consoles. I just play the PC versions, obviously. Although, if I were to put together a list of my top 10 favorite shooters, over half of them would be PC exclusives, or games that  were  PC exclusive for a while, and only got gimped/altered versions on consoles later.

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Just played Bioshock on the 360 and it's clear it was never meant for the control pad, gunplay is absolutely horrible.

It plays like those PC ports that came to the 360 in it's first year.

Gue1

that's exactly what I thought the first time I used k&m to play a FPS. It was clear that FPS were never meant for k&m. :lol:

You need to get better at trolling.

Brutal Doom is more fun than the vast majority of FPS on consoles.

Console shooters tend to be generic, hand holding, two weapon limit, no where near as good as PC fps. Crysis went downhill when it went to consoles, so did alot of shooters that started on PC then consoles curropted them.

Console shooters tend to be generic, hand holding, two weapon limit, no where near as good as PC fps. Crysis went downhill when it went to consoles, so did alot of shooters that started on PC then consoles curropted them.

ultimate-k

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Console shooters tend to be generic, hand holding, two weapon limit, no where near as good as PC fps. Crysis went downhill when it went to consoles, so did alot of shooters that started on PC then consoles curropted them.

locopatho

Console FPS are a joke. Not only because of the controller, but because the technical limitations.

Even those that are "locked" at 60fps. 60fps isn't enough for me anymore, I need all the fps I can get for improved input latency.

Another thing that I'll never understand, well since this are console FPS we're talking about, is the fact that people play these games on TVs that have 20x the input lag of your average monitor, I really don't know how they do it.

It's sad to see how Crysis went to **** because of the console limitation, Crysis 2 was a POS compared to C1, and the third didn't redeem the franchise.

Console FPS are a joke. Not only because of the controller, but because the technical limitations.

 

Even those that are "locked" at 60fps. 60fps isn't enough for me anymore, I need all the fps I can get for improved input latency.

 

Another thing that I'll never understand, well since this are console FPS we're talking about, is the fact that people play these games on TVs that have 20x the input lag of your average monitor, I really don't know how they do it.

 

It's sad to see how Crysis went to **** because of the console limitation, Crysis 2 was a POS compared to C1, and the third didn't redeem the franchise.

EducatingU_PCMR

Some are fun(Resident Evil 4, Metroid Prime, etc), but most of them are somewhere between meh and garbage. Just like most genres or style of games. There is a group of really good games, and then a larger group of stuff that is probably not worth a spin.jg4xchamp

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]Some are fun(Resident Evil 4, Metroid Prime, etc), but most of them are somewhere between meh and garbage. Just like most genres or style of games. There is a group of really good games, and then a larger group of stuff that is probably not worth a spin.v13_KiiLtz

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="ultimate-k"]

Console shooters tend to be generic, hand holding, two weapon limit, no where near as good as PC fps. Crysis went downhill when it went to consoles, so did alot of shooters that started on PC then consoles curropted them.

SNIPER4321

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Just played Bioshock on the 360 and it's clear it was never meant for the control pad, gunplay is absolutely horrible.

It plays like those PC ports that came to the 360 in it's first year.

uninspiredcup

It's funny you'd say that because it plays crap on the pc as well.

Maybe it's just a really shitty, overrated game?

lol probably. :)

I don't necessarily hate CoD, I just hate the impact it's done on the industry but as I said before that has more to do with Activision than with the actual game. I loved the first two games and Modern Warfare was great but everything after has just been nonsensical and unnecessary and an obvious attempt at making more money.v13_KiiLtz

Hey if you had 20 million+ people flinging money at you, you'd make yearly sequels too :P

It always happens. Great game comes out, hordes of lesser devs ape it. Happened with Super Mario Brothers, Street Figher/Mortal Kombat, GTA3, World Of Warcraft, etc. We've been flooded with crappy copies of great games all throughout gaming history. Someone will probably make an epic hairdresser sim next gen and everyone will copy that :P

[QUOTE="HalcyonScarlet"]

Just played Bioshock on the 360 and it's clear it was never meant for the control pad, gunplay is absolutely horrible.

It plays like those PC ports that came to the 360 in it's first year.

Gue1

that's exactly what I thought the first time I used k&m to play a FPS. It was clear that FPS were never meant for k&m. :lol:

tbh kb&m isn't for me. I don't enjoy fps too much on it. Haven't played too many, some crap like painkiller and others. HL2 has overated gunplay imo, I played as much as I could mainly because of the urban graphical style and atmosphere more than the gunplay.

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[QUOTE="HalcyonScarlet"]

Just played Bioshock on the 360 and it's clear it was never meant for the control pad, gunplay is absolutely horrible.

It plays like those PC ports that came to the 360 in it's first year.

HalcyonScarlet

that's exactly what I thought the first time I used k&m to play a FPS. It was clear that FPS were never meant for k&m. :lol:

tbh kb&m isn't for me. I don't enjoy fps too much on it. Haven't played too many, some crap like painkiller and others. HL2 has overated gunplay imo, I played as much as I could mainly because of the urban graphical style and atmosphere more than the gunplay.

Consoles killed arena shooters (aka Quake 3 Arena, Unreal Tournament) because it is impossible to control them properly without m+k. 

On the other hand I enjoyed quite a few console FPSs (Killzone 2, Resistance 2) and I believe all the 360 HALOs are pretty good too.

Wouldn't mix games like Deus Ex HR, Bioshock Infinite or Dishonored here, those are perfectly playable on consoles and probably wouldn't be economically possible on the scale they were made if there were no consoles.

Overall I think consoles hurt FPS games a lot, because the gameplay of almost all today's FPSs is made so that they can be played with controller (slow pace, etc.) and the diversity is gone.

Consoles killed arena shooters (aka Quake 3 Arena, Unreal Tournament) because it is impossible to control them properly without m+k. 

 

On the other hand I enjoyed quite a few console FPSs (Killzone 2, Resistance 2) and I believe all the 360 HALOs are pretty good too.

 

Wouldn't mix games like Deus Ex HR, Bioshock Infinite or Dishonored here, those are perfectly playable on consoles and probably wouldn't be economically possible on the scale they were made if there were no consoles.

 

Overall I think consoles hurt FPS games a lot, because the gameplay of almost all today's FPSs is made so that they can be played with controller (slow pace, etc.) and the diversity is gone.

BlbecekBobecek

Consoles killed arena shooters (aka Quake 3 Arena, Unreal Tournament) because it is impossible to control them properly without m+k. 

 

On the other hand I enjoyed quite a few console FPSs (Killzone 2, Resistance 2) and I believe all the 360 HALOs are pretty good too.

 

Wouldn't mix games like Deus Ex HR, Bioshock Infinite or Dishonored here, those are perfectly playable on consoles and probably wouldn't be economically possible on the scale they were made if there were no consoles.

 

Overall I think consoles hurt FPS games a lot, because the gameplay of almost all today's FPSs is made so that they can be played with controller (slow pace, etc.) and the diversity is gone.

BlbecekBobecek

[QUOTE="XxR3m1xInHDn3D"] I prefer the first person view it was still way better than AW.SNIPER4321