what are the biggest lessons console developers will learn from the ps3?

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#1 captainlouie
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what are the biggest lessons console developers will learn from the ps3?
mine are;don't make a system over 500 dollars.  (people just can't afford it).don't make a system for what people will "demand" in 3 or 4 years.  make it for what people want right now.
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#2 TekkenMaster606
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So, 6 months after launch it's time to reflect already huh? :lol:
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#3 SmokieX
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So, 6 months after launch it's time to reflect already huh? :lol:
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If you don't have games to sell, hold off until you do. Also use already standard, or very near standard, multimedia formats for less, rather than pushing new formats and calling it a deal.
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what lessons? it sold better then 360 did in its starting months. And now the good games are rolling in.
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what lessons? it sold better then 360 did in its starting months. And now the good games are rolling in.
Koalakommander

perhaps then, they shouldn't have shipped so many consoles.  so much that it was a joke how many were available.
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[QUOTE="Koalakommander"]what lessons? it sold better then 360 did in its starting months. And now the good games are rolling in.
captainlouie

perhaps then, they shouldn't have shipped so many consoles. so much that it was a joke how many were available.

 

So making their system widely available, where supply exceeds demand is a joke? :lol:

 

 

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Don't sell it for 600 f***ing dollars. That and don't insult your consumer base with lines like "people will want to work more hours to buy it" and "4D graphics".
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I think the biggest lesson learned is that 4D gaming isn't enough in today's market. Promise 5, 6, or even 7D gaming.

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what are the biggest lessons console developers will learn from the ps3?
mine are;don't make a system over 500 dollars.  (people just can't afford it).don't make a system for what people will "demand" in 3 or 4 years.  make it for what people want right now.captainlouie

Don't make games on SP3 first, because they will look like garbage on 360 too, when they could look 2x better, but i think all have seen that, 360 version is always the first one

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#11 Hoffgod
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Consumers are price sensitive. It doesn't matter if you've packed all the latest and greatest gizmos into the thing, if it's too expensive, it's too expensive. Expect sales to suffer accordingly.
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Never make another game for a Sony console again.
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That it takes an extra year of hard work to make a game on par with the 360s version
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[QUOTE="captainlouie"][QUOTE="Koalakommander"]what lessons? it sold better then 360 did in its starting months. And now the good games are rolling in.
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perhaps then, they shouldn't have shipped so many consoles. so much that it was a joke how many were available.

 

So making their system widely available, where supply exceeds demand is a joke? :lol:

 

 

 

Yes. You don't know much about business do you? 

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what are the biggest lessons console developers will learn from the ps3?
mine are;don't make a system over 500 dollars. (people just can't afford it).don't make a system for what people will "demand" in 3 or 4 years. make it for what people want right now.captainlouie

 

they will learn not to develop for the ps3 hahaha hey-o 

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that 3d gaming > 4d gaming
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[QUOTE="captainlouie"][QUOTE="Koalakommander"]what lessons? it sold better then 360 did in its starting months. And now the good games are rolling in.
TekkenMaster606


perhaps then, they shouldn't have shipped so many consoles. so much that it was a joke how many were available.

 

So making their system widely available, where supply exceeds demand is a joke? :lol:

 

 


yea, wildly exceeding demand this early just makes it look like nobody wants one.  which, of course, makes the ps3 look like a joke.
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They learned to lie about a game running at 1080p 60fps right up till its release because cows will believe anything if its on the Ps3
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Don't develop games on it if you want them to sell --------------------------------------------------------------------------->

 

1. God of War II (PS2) Sony

2. Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter 2 (360) Ubisoft

3. Guitar Hero 2 W/ Guitar (360) Red Octane/Activision

4. Wii Play (Wii) Nintendo

5. MotorStorm (PS3) Sony

6. Major League Baseball 2k7 (360) 2K Games

7. MLB '07: The Show (PS2) Sony

8. Def Jam Icon (360) Electronic Arts

9. Guitar Hero 2 W/Guitar (PS2) Red Octane/Activision

10. God of War (PS2) Sony

11. Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories (PS2) Rockstar

12. Tiger Woods PGA Tour 07 (Wii) Electronic Arts

13. Crackdown (360) Microsoft

14. Sonic and the Secret Rings (Wii) Sega

15. TMNT (PS2) Ubisoft

16. Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (Wii) Nintendo

17. Gears of War (360) Microsoft

18. Major League Baseball 2K7 (PS2) 2K Games

19. Warioware: Smooth Moves (Wii) Nintendo

20. Elder Scrolls IV:

 

 

Oblivion (PS3) Bethesda

 

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Hey, every company makes mistakes.
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Don't develop games on it if you want them to sell --------------------------------------------------------------------------->

 

1. God of War II (PS2) Sony

2. Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter 2 (360) Ubisoft

3. Guitar Hero 2 W/ Guitar (360) Red Octane/Activision

4. Wii Play (Wii) Nintendo

5. MotorStorm (PS3) Sony

6. Major League Baseball 2k7 (360) 2K Games

7. MLB '07: The Show (PS2) Sony

8. Def Jam Icon (360) Electronic Arts

9. Guitar Hero 2 W/Guitar (PS2) Red Octane/Activision

10. God of War (PS2) Sony

11. Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories (PS2) Rockstar

12. Tiger Woods PGA Tour 07 (Wii) Electronic Arts

13. Crackdown (360) Microsoft

14. Sonic and the Secret Rings (Wii) Sega

15. TMNT (PS2) Ubisoft

16. Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (Wii) Nintendo

17. Gears of War (360) Microsoft

18. Major League Baseball 2K7 (PS2) 2K Games

19. Warioware: Smooth Moves (Wii) Nintendo

20. Elder Scrolls IV:

 

 

Oblivion (PS3) Bethesda

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What the hell did you expect from a game that a **** ton of people played last year on the 360/pc

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#22 piemister
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sigh the new gen is still too young to say the ps3 has lost it will slope upward n sales as it starts to seperate from the rest. (i cant be bothered to explain because ive said it too many times)
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If you don't have games to sell, hold off until you do. Also use already standard, or very near standard, multimedia formats for less, rather than pushing new formats and calling it a deal. whoisryanmack

Did you know that PS3 can play DVDs too?

And why is "pushing" HD bad? Everything is going HD, take a look around. In a year or two everyone will realize there really is a difference and it will be standard. PS3 is ready for that.  

[QUOTE="captainlouie"][QUOTE="Koalakommander"]what lessons? it sold better then 360 did in its starting months. And now the good games are rolling in.
TekkenMaster606


perhaps then, they shouldn't have shipped so many consoles. so much that it was a joke how many were available.

 

So making their system widely available, where supply exceeds demand is a joke? :lol:

 

 

Exactly. A console is only good if you absolutely can't find it anywhere, amirite? Gimme a break.  

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I think the real question is what will they learn from the Wii?

Perhaps there will be no upgrade in hardware between this generation and the next because of the Wii (if the Wii wins).

 

And don't count the PS3 out just yet. Zero of the Playstation 2 exclusives (outside of VF5 which is only a timed exclusive) that made the PS2 such a run away sucess have had their sequels launch on the PS3.

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[QUOTE="assassin23"]

Don't develop games on it if you want them to sell --------------------------------------------------------------------------->

 

1. God of War II (PS2) Sony

2. Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter 2 (360) Ubisoft

3. Guitar Hero 2 W/ Guitar (360) Red Octane/Activision

4. Wii Play (Wii) Nintendo

5. MotorStorm (PS3) Sony

6. Major League Baseball 2k7 (360) 2K Games

7. MLB '07: The Show (PS2) Sony

8. Def Jam Icon (360) Electronic Arts

9. Guitar Hero 2 W/Guitar (PS2) Red Octane/Activision

10. God of War (PS2) Sony

11. Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories (PS2) Rockstar

12. Tiger Woods PGA Tour 07 (Wii) Electronic Arts

13. Crackdown (360) Microsoft

14. Sonic and the Secret Rings (Wii) Sega

15. TMNT (PS2) Ubisoft

16. Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (Wii) Nintendo

17. Gears of War (360) Microsoft

18. Major League Baseball 2K7 (PS2) 2K Games

19. Warioware: Smooth Moves (Wii) Nintendo

20. Elder Scrolls IV:

 

 

Oblivion (PS3) Bethesda

asdasd

What the hell did you expect from a game that a **** ton of people played last year on the 360/pc

 

where is resistance then? nobody played it and nobody wants to play it. 

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what lessons? it sold better then 360 did in its starting months. And now the good games are rolling in.
Koalakommander

 

Wii says hello 

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what are the biggest lessons console developers will learn from the ps3?
mine are;don't make a system over 500 dollars. (people just can't afford it).don't make a system for what people will "demand" in 3 or 4 years. make it for what people want right now.captainlouie

Getting scared? why else would you wanna throw the towel in six months after a launch? 

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[QUOTE="Koalakommander"]what lessons? it sold better then 360 did in its starting months. And now the good games are rolling in.
axt113

 

Wii says hello

Wii needs games. 

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I think the real question is what will they learn from the Wii?

Perhaps there will be no upgrade in hardware between this generation and the next because of the Wii (if the Wii wins).

 

And don't count the PS3 out just yet. Zero of the Playstation 2 exclusives (outside of VF5 which is only a timed exclusive) that made the PS2 such a run away sucess have had their sequels launch on the PS3.

Skippyj9
And people know that, yet are nto buying, because those games are not worth $600
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#30 axt113
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[QUOTE="axt113"]

[QUOTE="Koalakommander"]what lessons? it sold better then 360 did in its starting months. And now the good games are rolling in.
Khansoul

 

Wii says hello

Wii needs games. 

Wii has games, and is getting more
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what are the biggest lessons console developers will learn from the ps3?
mine are;don't make a system over 500 dollars.  (people just can't afford it).don't make a system for what people will "demand" in 3 or 4 years.  make it for what people want right now.captainlouie

Make what people demand right now? ...That idea makes Panda sad, =(.

If such a thing happened...for anyone over the age of 16 with the attention span of adults:

Welcome to the collective genocide of meaningful, intellectually stimulating, and technologically progressive games.  Enjoy the shallow and meaningless toys that you no longer care about and no longer desire to consume.

Perhaps there will be no upgrade in hardware between this generation and the next because of the Wii (if the Wii wins).

I will be sick at my stomach in five years if that is the case.  Nintendo is doing a fabulous job at making consumers realize that games are little more than shallow and hollow toys capable of only the most basic and "family-friendly" forms of entertainment.  It just happens that it's really cheap to make both consoles and games when people understand games as such. 

 

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what are the biggest lessons console developers will learn from the ps3?
mine are;don't make a system over 500 dollars.  (people just can't afford it).don't make a system for what people will "demand" in 3 or 4 years.  make it for what people want right now.captainlouie

 

don't fck with microsoft. lesson learned. 

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lessons they will learn:

1. dont delay the machine

2. dont make it significantly more expensive than the competition

3. dont make it difficult to program for

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#35 captainlouie
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[QUOTE="captainlouie"]what are the biggest lessons console developers will learn from the ps3?
mine are;don't make a system over 500 dollars. (people just can't afford it).don't make a system for what people will "demand" in 3 or 4 years. make it for what people want right now.Khansoul

Getting scared? why else would you wanna throw the towel in six months after a launch? 


no one is throwing in the towl.  but people will remember this launch and learn from it.
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[QUOTE="Khansoul"][QUOTE="axt113"]

[QUOTE="Koalakommander"]what lessons? it sold better then 360 did in its starting months. And now the good games are rolling in.
axt113

 

Wii says hello

Wii needs games.

Wii has games, and is getting more

Playstation 3 has better reviewed games overall, and is getting Heavenly Sword, Ratchet and Clank, Lair, Tekken 6, FFXIII, Metal Gear Solid 4, and LittleBigPlanet within the next 10 months for possibly AAA exclusives.

And GTAIV, Resident Evil 5, Assassin's Creed, and Unreal Tournament 3 before the year is over which will be more than likely be AAA and the Wii will never get them.

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[QUOTE="axt113"][QUOTE="Khansoul"][QUOTE="axt113"]

[QUOTE="Koalakommander"]what lessons? it sold better then 360 did in its starting months. And now the good games are rolling in.
Skippyj9

 

Wii says hello

Wii needs games.

Wii has games, and is getting more

Playstation 3 has better reviewed games overall, and is getting Heavenly Sword, Ratchet and Clank, Lair, Tekken 6, FFXIII, Metal Gear Solid 4, and LittleBigPlanet within the next 10 months for possibly AAA exclusives.

And GTAIV, Resident Evil 5, Assassin's Creed, and Unreal Tournament 3 which are AAA games before the year is over and the Wii will never get them.

 

Better reviewed?  The only good game on the PS3 is a year old port of a 360/PC game, and again your list is mediocre, you've got a bunch of Multiplats, which means sales for 360, not PS3, likely flops and niche titles in that list of yours, only a couple of those games are ven worht mentioning, Wii has a lot of games that will be very popular in the coming year, games that the public wants to play.