What can GTA IV possibly do to top San Andreas?

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#1 AvIdGaMeR444
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I'm hyped for GTA IV....but it has occured to me that San Andreas brought the GTA series to such a peak, that it seems as if it would be incredibly tough to top it.  It had an absolutely huge streaming world with planes, motorbikes, bicycles, the usual cars, tractors, boats, etc. It also had tons of minigames.  What in the world will RockStar do to improve GTA IV over San Andreas besides graphics and physics? 
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#2 donut349
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Rockstar's got something up their sleeve. :wink:
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#3 useLOGIC
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SA = overrated. GTA3>SA... so all it has to do is be more like gta3... with more features.
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#4 Kahuna_1
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allow for over 50% entry into buildings...multiple citites..umm better looking?
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#5 footballa27
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it should have online play like saints row with like 32 people in one big area shooting each other. or 4 player co-op mode. and they should add more stars for more killings lol
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#6 Guess_With_ReX
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Probably a living environment, have things blow up and then have it be contructed over a period of time. A huge world, maybe the size of a small island/country I don;t know, but this game + Halo 3 is gonna be awesome
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#7 BuryMe
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they could make it more like III and VC so it doesn't have that stupid gangster stuff.

and they could give it a good story line, and take out the stupid half baked stuff like going to the gym

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#8 mjarantilla
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Give up the overdone "gangsta" bull. I'd like to see some Yakuza or Triad action, though.
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#9 Vyse_The_Daring
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Allow me to go into all buildings. *drools*
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#11 onewiththegame
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more baby killing

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#12 GunSmith1_basic
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SA = overrated. GTA3>SA... so all it has to do is be more like gta3... with more features.useLOGIC
I totally agree. If anything SA showed more than ever that the franchise needs some retooling. The game needs to be more compact, or at least separate the exploration elements a bit better. Other than that, the gang mechanics could be done better, it was useless in SA. Also, money should mean something, like it did in the other GTA3 games. Anyway, I doubt that GTA4 will be much different than SA. I'm saying that in reference to those living forests that are supposed to be in the game (animals and foliage). Maybe they will strike a better balance, who knows.
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#13 Guess_With_ReX
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Some people liked the gangsta image! I liked the vice city story, but a gangsta story with an actual lstory that makes you feel interested. W/E gangsta or mafia style will be awesome. I just cant friggen wait This will probably be a classic, just li ke halo 3 probably will be can't friggen wait. So happy i bought a 360.
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Spaceships!
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#15 PostNuclear
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More destructible environments and allow us to go into more buildings. That's what I can think of right now.
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#16 RAZZY_B
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hmmm...mabey add a another hot cofee sex mini game in there.

:lol:

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#17 firedonut
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It could take place in the future and you can drive hovercars and shoot laser cannons and explore different PLANETS! :P

Seriously though, they need to do something different with the series instead of just adding more vehicles/cities/gangs/prostitutes to kill. It got old with Vice City, it's still old now.
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#18 AvIdGaMeR444
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Actually I just thought of something that Saints Row did better than any GTA game...Gun play.  Aiming and firing had much better controls in Saints Row than GTA.  This type of gameplay would work well in GTA.  Also, I wouldn't mind if RockStar copied Saints Row insurance fraud minigame idea :D
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#19 Grayden
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I bet Jack Thompson cant wait to see the GTA 4 trailer in a months time :lol:
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#20 mjarantilla
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Actually I just thought of something that Saints Row did better than any GTA game...Gun play. Aiming and firing had much better controls in Saints Row than GTA. This type of gameplay would work well in GTA. Also, I wouldn't mind if RockStar copied Saints Row insurance fraud minigame idea :DAvIdGaMeR444
Did GTA have a waypoint system? That was another thing that was almost indispensable about Saints Row that should be carried over to GTA.
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#21 Nintendo_Ownes7
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Edit* Just not have it have Gangsta Theme I liked the others because it had a Mafia in both GTAIII and Vice City.

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#22 KAS3Y_JAM3Z
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they are using the physics engine that the new star wars game is using. so that's a pretty big deal.
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#23 StealthSting
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They have the power to do alot more. For one they should try to make the missions more varied and unique. San Andreas IMO did slightly better then its predecessors in the usual insert text and conversation here go to place A kill dude B, repeat. Larger world, more interaction with the world and characters, more characters and more space for overall sound....... I really could be here for a long time.

Didn't particularly enjoy the hole gangsta theme, so will see what they will do next . Then again they could not do any of the above and give us just another GTA with alot more missions then its predecessors and in the process giving us missions in wich we have to repeat 87893930794779389638718976396times. There is always the possibility that it could be a San Andreas with just better graphics, more vehicles etc.
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-more graphic violence.  I wanna chainsaw someone's leg and see them crawl away.

-hero doesn't become super god of the world (ie CJ).  They dont have to be anything more than petty thugs.

-more alive world.  Have people on the street getting into conversations with each other, more accessible buildings, more kind of buildings (eg outdoor restaurants).  You should also be able to, when running from the police, you go into a house and there's a terrified family in there.  Hmm, hostages... Mind you, having more freedom means that there should be some way to make sense of everything.

-have a sewer system you can hide out in, although cops could chase you if they see you go in.

-a zoo.  When cops or rival gang members chase you inside you could hide behind a hippo and watch them kill it while shooting at you.  That should earn you some stars.

boy, i sound twisted judging by some of that...

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#25 JayMatthews06
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What I would like to see in GTA IV...
  • The ability to run your own businesses.
  • The abilty to enter any building of your choice.
  • The ability to create your own character.
  • A real setting - London, please!
  • Improved destructible environments.
  • Better graphics.
  • Better physics.
  • Quicker loading times.

I'm sure I'll come up with much more :P
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#26 mjarantilla
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-more graphic violence. I wanna chainsaw someone's leg and see them crawl away.

-hero doesn't become super god of the world (ie CJ). They dont have to be anything more than petty thugs.

-more alive world. Have people on the street getting into conversations with each other, more accessible buildings, more kind of buildings (eg outdoor restaurants). You should also be able to, when running from the police, you go into a house and there's a terrified family in there. Hmm, hostages... Mind you, having more freedom means that there should be some way to make sense of everything.

-have a sewer system you can hide out in, although cops could chase you if they see you go in.

-a zoo. When cops or rival gang members chase you inside you could hide behind a hippo and watch them kill it while shooting at you. That should earn you some stars.

boy, i sound twisted judging by some of that...

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Oooooh, a sewer system would be genius.
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I am not understanding why people hate the gangwars themed version, I mean it is an espect of the crminal world. LIke any other, mob or mafia, etc. I think Triad would be quite interesting. Maybe more cilivian life? Online? Better airplane usage?
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[QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]Actually I just thought of something that Saints Row did better than any GTA game...Gun play. Aiming and firing had much better controls in Saints Row than GTA. This type of gameplay would work well in GTA. Also, I wouldn't mind if RockStar copied Saints Row insurance fraud minigame idea :Dmjarantilla
Did GTA have a waypoint system? That was another thing that was almost indispensable about Saints Row that should be carried over to GTA.

Not that I recall...Saints Row did and it was great.  Wow, Saints Row really did smash GTA in some aspects.  Another thing I really liked about Saints Row was that you could restart a mission immediately after failing...whereas in GTA games you have to drive all the way back to where the mission began if you failed.  This was annoying as hell in San Andreas because of the size of the game.  I hope GTA IV implements a "mission restart" like Saints Row did...

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#29 danneswegman
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thay can do a lot
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#30 smartcriminal
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i totally agree with the destructable environments and then having construction workers come and repair it, so it seems more real and more personality for the characters( saints row anyone, the **** that comes out of the pedestrians mouthes is hilarious)
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#31 AvIdGaMeR444
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What I would like to see in GTA IV...
  • The ability to run your own businesses.
  • The abilty to enter any building of your choice.
  • The ability to create your own character.
  • A real setting - London, please!
  • Improved destructible environments.
  • Better graphics.
  • Better physics.
  • Quicker loading times.


I'm sure I'll come up with much more :P
JayMatthews06

If RockStar allows this then the main character will pretty much have to be mute like in Saints Row...because of that, I highly doubt there will be a character creation process in the main game.  Maybe for online multiplayer deathmatch or whatever if RockStar chooses that route...

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Japan, the entire country

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#33 ithilgore2006
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Fix the broken combat. Or preferably just replace it with an in-depth system altogether.
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#34 TemplaerDude
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Be more like GTA3, the less boring and much better game.
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#35 solidte
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I am not understanding why people hate the gangwars themed version, I mean it is an espect of the crminal world. LIke any other, mob or mafia, etc. I think Triad would be quite interesting. Maybe more cilivian life? Online? Better airplane usage? ArisShadows


Neither do I, anyways think the only way to make GTA:IV topple San Andreas is

- Destructible buildings
- Being able to fly to the moon
- Online
- A better shooting system

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#36 tramp
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I hope that cars are harder to jack and that they have some sort of fuel system.

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#37 mjarantilla
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I hope that cars are harder to jack and that they have some sort of fuel system.

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You mean you WANT to have to stop at a gas station every hour just to fill up your imaginary gas tank? No thanks....
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#38 mangobear
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they can give the characters actual moving fingers
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#39 solidte
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Oooh and a much more indepth character interaction system.
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I'm probably the only one hoping for this, but I hope the lead character is female. I would love to see that.
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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]Actually I just thought of something that Saints Row did better than any GTA game...Gun play. Aiming and firing had much better controls in Saints Row than GTA. This type of gameplay would work well in GTA. Also, I wouldn't mind if RockStar copied Saints Row insurance fraud minigame idea :DAvIdGaMeR444

Did GTA have a waypoint system? That was another thing that was almost indispensable about Saints Row that should be carried over to GTA.

Not that I recall...Saints Row did and it was great.  Wow, Saints Row really did smash GTA in some aspects.  Another thing I really liked about Saints Row was that you could restart a mission immediately after failing...whereas in GTA games you have to drive all the way back to where the mission began if you failed.  This was annoying as hell in San Andreas because of the size of the game.  I hope GTA IV implements a "mission restart" like Saints Row did...

Wow as long as people are naming thing they want to be taken from Saint's Row and put in GTA, 1. Respect system from Saint's Row (Respecting in GTA did almost nothing) 2. More activities like Saint's Row(Mayhem and Insurance Fraud for sure) 3. Better crash damage(with the ability to be ejected out fo your car.)
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[QUOTE="tramp"]

I hope that cars are harder to jack and that they have some sort of fuel system.

mjarantilla
You mean you WANT to have to stop at a gas station every hour just to fill up your imaginary gas tank? No thanks....

it would make it more realistic and I think I might like it, also different cars have different Fuel Milage.
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Sex in 4D :o Just think about it.....
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#44 wiganath
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I hope they don't go bigger than SA. Driving an insane amount just so they can say the game is big, is silly. I prefer it when mission are local or medium distance, not when it takes 5-10 minutes to get somewhere. I also don't want to go in loads of buildings. I think i am the only one who thinks this way, but i don't see the appeal of going in lots of buildings. These are usually the weakest parts of the games, and i think it will be the same this time around.

I'm from the UK and honestly if it was set in London, it would put me off buying somewhat. London as a setting has no appeal to me at all. I would much prefer it to be set in NY, Tokyo, L.A, even somewhere different like Moscow over London.

Character creation is a small part of it for me. If it is included, okay, if not i honestly wouldn't care.

All i'm looking for is something similar to GTA III with a few new features/improvements and visuals along the line of Saints Row will be fine.
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#45 mjarantilla
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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="tramp"]

I hope that cars are harder to jack and that they have some sort of fuel system.

Nintendo_Ownes7
You mean you WANT to have to stop at a gas station every hour just to fill up your imaginary gas tank? No thanks....

it would make it more realistic and I think I might like it, also different cars have different Fuel Milage.

Leave that kind of detail to Gran Turismo or something. I want the game focused on what it does best, not the trivium of daily life.
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#46 TheWiikestLink
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obiously ONLINE play.....the game would change quiet a bit if you were just driving on the street,stop on a red light and see a man in a cape and mask run across with a bag of money,being chased by a cop,thats being chased by 4 thugs with bats and swords,chased by a guy in a pink scooter,being chased by a guy in a jet pack,being chased by a little toy helicopter that blows up.
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#47 the-very-best
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There were rumours a few months back that GTAIV will have a map 9 times the size of GTA:SA!

I'm 100% sure R* know that the gameplay needs to be reinvented a bit and I have no doubt in my mind they will be able to do it. The devs are extremely smart.
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#48 thegame458
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ALOT- SAN ANDREAS WASN"T PERFECT
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#49 qoakzmwisjxneud
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they sed you will be able to scale a building with bombs then detonate it, but a 100+ multiplayer would be great, imagine all these different clans(well in this case, gangs) walking around, shotting at u and ur clans, you had to protect you mates and take over the hood and suburbs
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#50 Mitsugi123
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For godsake let me blow up a building.